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Re: Some Facts about Space, Time and Infinity

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Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 at 7:25:51 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 at 9:42:53 AM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > > On 11/4/15 8:07 AM, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> > > > > I wonder how you'd entertain that gravity is
> > > > > actually repulsive from the edges of the universe,
> > > > > and that mass occludes it as a force, so, then
> > > > > objects are drawn together locally as the block
> > > > > each other out (then that this matches attractive
> > > > > gravity up to basically the same sphere of influence).
> > > > > Then gravity is a feature of the substrate instead of
> > > > > the bodies, which are defined by the nuclear force(s).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >    I hate to break this to you, Ross, but the universe doesn't
> > > >    have edges.
> > > >
> > > >    No Center
> > > >      http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/nocenter.html
> > > >      http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/infpoint.html
> > > >
> > > >    Also see Ned Wright's Cosmology Tutorial
> > > >      http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm
> > > >      http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html
> > > >      http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/CosmoCalc.html
> > > >
> > > >    WMAP: Foundations of the Big Bang theory
> > > >      http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni.html
> > > >
> > > >    WMAP: Tests of Big Bang Cosmology
> > > >      http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni/uni_101bbtest.html
> > > >
> > >
> > > The universe is effectively infinite and unbounded, yes.
> >
> >
> > You mean mathematically speaking and philoshphy speaking, but it sure
> > ain't Science speaking.
> 
> It's courtesy a "mathematical universe hypothesis",
> then that all the physical objects (eg field elements
> are mathematical objects) as are the functions between
> them (that are also field elements) and etcetera ad
> infinitum that there are thusly _infinitely many_
> physical objects in the universe courtesy reason
> and definition.
> 
> So, this is under science, in reasoning, with that the
> objects in the universe, have that there are infinitely
> many different ones in all the diverse combinations and
> all theirs ad infinitum.
> 
> That follows from the definition of a universe and
> unboundedly many things in it:   there are infinitely
> many things in it.  There isn't an upper bound on
> any upper bound.  This is also true or we'd all be in
> the same reference frame, and all one thing.
> 
> Then, it's the philosophical/theoretical that the
> Continuum is infinite, then that simple principles
> of reserve so define the laws of the mathematical
> universe then for the physical universe (then that
> estimated or predicted results are to be rejected
> or not in hypothesis testing, in the scientific
> method).
> 
> You're right in that scientists are only allowed
> and allowing science, including correct experimental
> design and etcetera.
> 
> To then actually _prove_ the nature of the Universe
> or its features would necessarily follow from a
> consistent, complete, and complete purely mathematically
> logical theory that then is also scientific, or a
> Real Theory of Everything.  (I call this A-Theory and
> the Null Axiom Theory, it is an axiomless system of
> natural deduction, and follows from simple logical
> principles of constancy and variety, and diversity in
> variety, and uniformity in diversity, for a Continuum.)
> 
> Then features as of this "Continuum Infinitesimal
> Analysis" is in the mathematical part for real
> analysis, somewhat above the total underpinnings
> of all theory.  (Also it's shown that it so results.)
> 
> It's OK for science to have the universe having
> infinitely many things in it and to be infinite,
> as it is unbounded (else there wouldn't be a "we").


so, what is the age of this infinite universe of we?

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Re: Some Facts about Space, Time and Infinity "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 06:07 -0800
  Re: Some Facts about Space, Time and Infinity Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 11:42 -0600
    Re: Some Facts about Space, Time and Infinity "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 11:44 -0800
      Re: Some Facts about Space, Time and Infinity Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 13:57 -0600
        Re: Some Facts about Space, Time and Infinity "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 15:02 -0800
          Re: Some Facts about Space, Time and Infinity Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 17:14 -0600
            Re: Some Facts about Space, Time and Infinity "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 15:55 -0800
      Re: Some Facts about Space, Time and Infinity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-04 19:26 -0800
        Re: Some Facts about Space, Time and Infinity "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 19:47 -0800
          Re: Some Facts about Space, Time and Infinity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-05 15:33 -0800
            Re: Some Facts about Space, Time and Infinity Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 17:44 -0600
            Re: Some Facts about Space, Time and Infinity "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 16:04 -0800
              Re: Some Facts about Space, Time and Infinity noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 19:42 -0800

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