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Re: Why is space three-dimensional? ... Thermodynamics

From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Why is space three-dimensional? ... Thermodynamics
Date 2016-05-07 17:59 +0200
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A Nony Mouse wrote:

> […] The ending of a motion, involving the beginning absence of
> that mation, is an event.

Whether motion starts, happens, or ends, is *observer-dependent*.
“Beginning absence of motion” is therefore, too, an ill-defined concept.

Your layman definition of “event” is at odds with the definition
of “event” in physics where an “event” is a position in spacetime.

Suppose that the motion of an object ends for one observer whom
we consider “at rest”, then it is the spacetime position of that
object that is the event, not the fact of its stopping for that
observer.  As the object is moving, it is moving through spacetime,
which can be seen in a spacetime (Minkowski) diagram:

      ct
       ^     O          v = c       e₁ = (ct₁, x₁, y₁, z₁)
       |     ^        .'            e₂ = (ct₂, x₂, y₂, z₂)
       |     :      .'
   ct₂ +     :    .'
       |    :   .'
       |   :  .'
       | .' .'
   ct₁ + :.' 
       |.'   
       '-+---+----------------> x
         x₁  x₂

   Path of an object O first at relative rest in event e₁, then
   accelerating, then moving with uniform velocity, and finally
   decelerating to relative rest again in event e₂, through flat
   spacetime; compared against that of an object moving at
   the speed of light in vacuum, c.  (As one can see, an object
   is moving through spacetime even if it is not moving through
   space (x): its temporal coordinate changes *continuously*.)

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            Re: Why is space three-dimensional? ... Thermodynamics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-05 05:51 +0200
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                Re: Why is space three-dimensional? ... Thermodynamics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-06 19:54 +0200
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                Re: Why is space three-dimensional? ... Thermodynamics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-07 07:53 -0700
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                Re: Why is space three-dimensional? ... Thermodynamics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-07 12:59 -0700
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                Re: Why is space three-dimensional? ... Thermodynamics benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-09 00:48 -0400
                Re: Why is space three-dimensional? ... Thermodynamics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-07 17:13 +0200
                Re: Why is space three-dimensional? ... Thermodynamics jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-08 00:56 -0700
                Re: Why is space three-dimensional? ... Thermodynamics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-08 10:04 +0200
                Re: Why is space three-dimensional? ... Thermodynamics jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-08 05:19 -0700
                Re: Why is space three-dimensional? ... Thermodynamics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-08 14:58 +0200
                Re: Why is space three-dimensional? ... Thermodynamics jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-09 00:00 -0700
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                Re: Why is space three-dimensional? ... Thermodynamics "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-05-06 22:55 -0700
                Re: Why is space three-dimensional? ... Thermodynamics A Nony Mouse <abc@cef.ghi> - 2016-05-07 00:02 -0600
                Re: Why is space three-dimensional? ... Thermodynamics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-07 17:59 +0200
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