GPU elasticity was already invented in 2008 with CUDA (Re: npm install webgpu [Google Dawn])

From	Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups	sci.physics, comp.lang.prolog, sci.logic
Subject	GPU elasticity was already invented in 2008 with CUDA (Re: npm install webgpu [Google Dawn])
Date	2026-08-03 00:01 +0200
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Hi,

Chris M. Thomasson schrieb:

 > Strive to never make a compute shader wait
 > on something, like an empty condition of a queue, stack.

You are such a moron. GPU elasticity was
already invented in 2008 with CUDA. I posted
this quote already:

"CUDA™ TEChNOLOGY UNLOCkS ThE
POWER OF TESLA MANY-CORE PROCESSORS

The CUDA C compiler simplifies many-core
programming by enabling code development
in a high-level language and optimizing code
to run on systems without knowledge of how

many cores are in the hardware. CUDA
applications automatically take advantage of
more cores or fewer cores in a system, so
they can scale from entry-level notebook

GPUs to high end GPUs in technical workstations
and further into racks of GPUs in data centers.
This allows developers to “code once” and
deploy on a range of systems, as well as scale

forward in time as future GPUs deliver more
performance per watt and more cores per
processor. The benefit for software users is
the opportunity to boost computing performance

simply by adding GPUs or using their existing GPUs in new ways"
https://www.nvidia.com/docs/IO/43395/NV_DS_Tesla_S1070_US_Jun08_NV_LR_Final.pdf

Today elasticity is on logical thread aka task level,
not only on "core" level or something. Don't know
exactly what CUDA did back them, maybe only

a submit elasticity, like a time sharing system. Today
you have quite some run elasticity on modern machines,
for your logical threads. Even in budget laptops

like a Ryzen AI 7 350 /w Radeon 850M.

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Ok, following the instructions here:
> 
> npm install webgpu
> https://github.com/dawn-gpu/node-webgpu
> 
> I can now run webgpu also from CLI:
> 
>  >node.exe dogelog.mjs
> Dogelog Spieler 2.2.5, Node, JavaScript 26.4.0
> (c) 1985-2026, XLOG Technologies AG, Schweiz
> 
> ?- ensure_loaded(library(edge/furryhaze)).
> true.
> 
> ?- between(1,3,_), time(expedite((between(1,100,_),
> between(1,100,_), between(1,100,_)), [size(4096)])), fail.
> % Zeit 1037.994 ms, GC 0.000 ms, Lips 111 k
> % Zeit 1091.131 ms, GC 0.000 ms, Lips 106 k
> % Zeit 1045.274 ms, GC 0.000 ms, Lips 110 k
> fail.
> 
> Same benchmark result as in the browser.
> Now I can rent a bigger GPU by the hour
> and do some easy CLI testing.
> 
> LoL
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Chris M. Thomasson can ask 100 more questions.
>> I will happily answer them. But maybe I should
>> make a Wiki to explain the ever same things:
>>
>>  > But, I still don't know what you main goal is?
>> The goal is "Prolog inferencing"
>>
>>  > It has textures to work with in the pipeline.
>> I don't need textures for "Prolog inferencing"
>>
>> 98 more questions to go, don't give up!
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Taskfreak schrieb:
>>> On 8/1/26 05:19, Mild Shock wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Tablets and phone are more annoying to
>>>> use with WebGPU. The usual browsers don't
>>>> have a Chrome DevTools panel integrated,
>>>>
>>>> so that one could do JavaScript Debugging
>>>> directly on the device. Instead one has to
>>>> use a desktop machine, and connect the
>>>>
>>>> device via UBS-C , and start a Chrome
>>>> Browser there . And then start a Chrome
>>>> DevTools panel alone, that is pair with
>>>>
>>>> the device, via UBS-C cable. So this way
>>>> I already see where it crashes on the
>>>> tablets and phone:
>>>>
>>>> await output.mapAsync(GPUMapMode.READ)
>>>> Unhandled Promise Rejection: OperationError
>>>>
>>>> The above is the error that one can re-produce
>>>> already here with this test:
>>>>
>>>> 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
>>>> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget
>>>>
>>>> Not sure what exactly happens. Maybe
>>>> a form of timeout or device lost, that the
>>>> primitive HTML / JavaScript doesn't handle
>>>>
>>>> gracefully yet. Maybe redimensioning the
>>>> test, so that it consumes less time would
>>>> help. Who knows? Will see. For production
>>>>
>>>> use of a GPU integration I have to anyway
>>>> provide work slicing it seems.
>>>>
>>>> Bye
>>>>
>>>
>>> I know that you are Hanson and I know that you are a cocksucker.
>>>
>>> My question is, though, do you know, do, vomit, defecate, smell, 
>>> evaporate, sweat, ooze in, ooze out, fart, see, hear, sense, taste, 
>>> and GESTATE anything other than programming?
>>>
>>> Programming is just a tool, you know. It is nothing by itself worth 
>>> even mentioning.
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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