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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.logic, comp.lang.prolog, sci.physics |
| Subject | 2008: 4 Blades + Tesla S1070 versus 2026: 1 AI Laptop (Re: Little Data Center on Your Palm [AI Laptops for 500 USD]) |
| Date | 2026-07-24 18:15 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <114032v$b7pi$1@solani.org> (permalink) |
| References | <113r42n$8g50$2@solani.org> <114025e$b6ui$2@solani.org> |
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Hi, Feature 2008: 4 Blades + Tesla S1070 CPU Cores 16 CPU Clock (GHz) 2.5 CPU IPC (est.) 1 CPU Throughput (units) 16 x 2.5 ×1.0=40 GPU Cores 960 (4x T10P) GPU Clock (GHz) 1.5 GPU IPC (est.) ~1.0 (FMA) GPU Throughput (units) 960 x 1.5x1.0=1440 Total Compute (CPU+GPU) 40 + 1440 = 1480 Memory Capacity 16-20 GB (DDR2) Storage I/O ~400 MB/s (HDDs) Power Consumption ~1500 W Physical Size 8-12 RU + 1U GPU Cost (2008 USD) ~$33,000 Feature 2026: 1 Al Laptop CPU Cores Aug 16 CPU Clock (GHz) 4.5 CPU IPC (est.) 2 CPU Throughput (units) 16 x 4.5 ×2.0=144 (or 72 for 8c) GPU Cores 4096 GPU Clock (GHz) ~2.0 GPU IPC (est.) ~1.5 (modern) GPU Throughput (units) 4096 x 2.0x1.5=12288 Total Compute (CPU+GPU) 144 + 12288 = 12432 (or 72+12288 for 8c) Memory Capacity 16-32 GB (DDR5) Storage I/O ~7000 MB/s (NVMe) Power Consumption ~50-100 W Physical Size 1 laptop bag Cost (2008 USD) ~$500-1000 Feature Winner CPU Cores Tie CPU Clock (GHz) Laptop (1.8x faster) CPU IPC (est.) Laptop (2x better) CPU Throughput (units) Laptop: 1.8-3.6x faster GPU Cores Laptop: 4.3x more cores GPU Clock (GHz) Laptop (1.33x faster) GPU IPC (est.) Laptop (1.5x better) GPU Throughput (units) Laptop: 8.5x more GPU throughput Total Compute (CPU+GPU) Laptop: 8.4x more total compute Memory Capacity Laptop (more, faster) Storage I/O Laptop: 17x faster Power Consumption Laptop: 15-30x more efficient Physical Size Laptop Cost (2008 USD) Laptop: 33-66x cheaper Bye Mild Shock schrieb: > Hi, > > Now you can compare this here from 2008 > with modern AI Laptops for 500-1000 USD: > > Google spotlights data center inner workings > https://web.archive.org/web/20131019063218/http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9955184-7.html > > > There is a striking similarity, only what > once occupied a rack, has now the size > of your plam, all inside one silicon chip: > > - Multiple CPU cores on the same chip > - Multiple GPU units on the same chip > - Network on the same chip communication > - Crossbar caches on the same chip > - Disk controllers on the same chip > - Multi channel RAM access on the same chip > > Pretty cool! > > Bye > > P.S.: Example such devices with iGPU: > > Intel(R) Core(TM) Ultra 7 258V > AMD Ryzen AI 7 350 w/ Radeon 860M > Apple A18 Pro, Darwin Kernel Version 25.5.0 > Snapdragon(R) X - X126100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) CPU > > > Mild Shock schrieb: >> Hi, >> >> Remember when first all local AI was Python >> and PyTorch APIs. And then suddently people started >> using bare metal C/C++ Code. Here is the story: >> >> How it started: >> >> GPT-J or GPT-J-6B is an open-source large >> language model (LLM) developed by EleutherAI >> in 2021. As the name suggests, it is a >> generative pre-trained transformer model >> designed to produce human-like text that >> continues from a prompt. >> https://www.eleuther.ai/ >> >> How it was going [Georgi Gerganov]: >> >> So a few days later comes out the LLaMA, I do >> some calculations and I figure out “Okay, 65 >> billion parameters. You probably need about >> 40 gigs of RAM, with 4-bit quantization. So >> this can run on a MacBook. Why not do it?” >> >> Why I was able to do it so quickly - basically, >> for all that I saw it’s pretty much GPT-J architecture >> with some modifications, like some extra memorization >> layers. It’s minor changes. Basically, again, the >> existing code for the GPT-J, I just simply >> modified it there, it happened pretty quickly. >> https://changelog.com/podcast/532 >> >> Georgi Gerganov, Bulgarian, now with Hugging >> Face, ggml-cann also running on Chinese AI chips. >> ggml Manifesto https://github.com/ggml-org/ggml >> >> Bye >
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