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The false premises of current theories

Started bykenseto <setoken@att.net>
First post2018-09-10 06:57 -0700
Last post2018-09-13 10:48 +0200
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  The false premises of current theories kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-10 06:57 -0700
    Re: The false premises of current theories Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-10 07:41 -0700
      Re: The false premises of current theories Wilbur Foley <boue@eywffl.uf> - 2018-09-10 17:14 +0000
    Re: The false premises of current theories Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 14:51 +0000
      Re: The false premises of current theories kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-10 15:24 -0700
        Re: The false premises of current theories Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 22:53 +0000
          Re: The false premises of current theories kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-11 09:33 -0700
            Re: The false premises of current theories Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 17:05 +0000
              Re: The false premises of current theories kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-12 05:09 -0700
                Re: The false premises of current theories Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 13:08 +0000
                  Re: The false premises of current theories kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-12 07:54 -0700
                    Re: The false premises of current theories Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 15:31 +0000
                      Re: The false premises of current theories kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-12 13:40 -0700
                        Re: The false premises of current theories Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 01:16 +0000
                      Re: The false premises of current theories kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-13 07:26 -0700
                        Re: The false premises of current theories JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 11:36 -0700
                          Re: The false premises of current theories kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-13 12:27 -0700
                            Re: The false premises of current theories JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 12:47 -0700
                              Re: The false premises of current theories kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-15 07:26 -0700
                                Re: The false premises of current theories Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-15 14:39 +0000
                                  Re: The false premises of current theories kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-15 11:14 -0700
                                Re: The false premises of current theories JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-16 02:16 -0700
                                  Re: The false premises of current theories Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-16 10:18 +0000
                                    Re: The false premises of current theories JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 11:11 -0700
                                      Re: The false premises of current theories Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-18 22:00 +0000
                                  Re: The false premises of current theories kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-19 08:45 -0700
                                    Re: The false premises of current theories Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-19 09:23 -0700
                                    Re: The false premises of current theories JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 12:19 -0700
                                      Re: The false premises of current theories Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaws.np> - 2018-09-20 15:26 +0000
                                      Re: The false premises of current theories kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-21 06:13 -0700
                                        Re: The false premises of current theories rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 07:34 -0700
                            Re: The false premises of current theories Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 21:45 +0000
                              Re: The false premises of current theories kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-15 07:35 -0700
                                Re: The false premises of current theories Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-15 15:04 +0000
                                Re: The false premises of current theories "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-15 08:24 -0700
                    Re: The false premises of current theories moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-12 21:26 +0000
                      Re: The false premises of current theories Wilbur Foley <boue@eywffl.uf> - 2018-09-14 19:02 +0000
                  Re: The false premises of current theories kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-13 07:41 -0700
              Re: The false premises of current theories kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-13 07:39 -0700
                Re: The false premises of current theories JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 11:38 -0700
                  Re: The false premises of current theories kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-13 12:29 -0700
                  Re: The false premises of current theories Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 21:45 +0000
                    Re: The false premises of current theories kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-15 07:33 -0700
                      Re: The false premises of current theories Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-15 15:04 +0000
                        Re: The false premises of current theories kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-15 11:30 -0700
                          Re: The false premises of current theories Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-15 19:08 +0000
                            Re: The false premises of current theories kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-19 08:42 -0700
                              Re: The false premises of current theories Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 17:12 +0000
                                Re: The false premises of current theories kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-21 06:33 -0700
                                  Re: The false premises of current theories Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 15:00 +0000
            Re: The false premises of current theories moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-11 17:30 +0000
              Re: The false premises of current theories Wilbur Foley <boue@eywffl.uf> - 2018-09-11 19:07 +0000
        Re: The false premises of current theories rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 19:21 -0700
          Re: The false premises of current theories kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-11 09:31 -0700
          Re: The false premises of current theories "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-11 13:08 -0700
            Re: The false premises of current theories Wilbur Foley <boue@eywffl.uf> - 2018-09-11 20:15 +0000
              Re: The false premises of current theories "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-11 16:41 -0700
                Re: The false premises of current theories Wilbur Foley <boue@eywffl.uf> - 2018-09-12 16:30 +0000
    Re: The false premises of current theories moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-10 17:25 +0000
    Re: The false premises of current theories "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-10 10:33 -0700
    Re: The false premises of current theories Wilbur Foley <boue@eywffl.uf> - 2018-09-10 19:23 +0000
    Re: The false premises of current theories mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-12 13:07 -0700
    Re: The false premises of current theories JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 16:21 -0700
      Re: The false premises of current theories kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-13 07:30 -0700
    Re: The false premises of current theories numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-09-12 18:06 -0700
      Re: The false premises of current theories Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-13 04:39 +0200
        Re: The false premises of current theories consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-09-12 21:16 -0700
          Re: The false premises of current theories Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-13 10:48 +0200

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#471697

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-09-13 12:29 -0700
Message-ID<2b798016-3b2d-4474-a9d1-0cd788818099@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#471694
On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 2:38:29 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 7:39:21 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 1:05:07 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > > kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > > > On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 6:53:31 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > > >> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > > >>> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 10:51:44 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > > >>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > > >>>>> The false premises of the current theories that led generations of
> > > >>>>> physicists to a 100 years of wild goose chase. Specifically, these false
> > > >>>>> premises failed to lead physicists to come up with a unified theory for all the forces
> > > >>>>> 
> > > >>>>> A summary of the false premises of current theories:
> > > >>>>> In quantum mechanics, specifically the QFT, a material object will
> > > >>>>> project a field throughout space 
> > > >>>> 
> > > >>>> That is incorrect. 
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> You are a woodworker....You are not qualified.
> > > >> 
> > > >> And you are a chemical engineer. You are no more qualified than me.
> > > >> Therefore you are unqualified. 
> > > > 
> > > > Except that I don’t make unsupported statements.
> > > 
> > > Of course you do. You always refer to your own theory. Referring to your
> > > own theory is not a supporting statement of your theory. 
> > 
> > There is nothing wrong with referring to my theory (the Model Mechanics) when it is the only theory that can unify all the forces of nature (including gravity).
> 
> It doesn't "unify" anything, it just talks about it. I can also talk about
> many things, like "I am the queen of England".

Yes it unifies all the forces (including gravity).

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#471707

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-13 21:45 +0000
Message-ID<pnelqd$11if$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#471694
JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 7:39:21 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
>> On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 1:05:07 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 6:53:31 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 10:51:44 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> The false premises of the current theories that led generations of
>>>>>>>> physicists to a 100 years of wild goose chase. Specifically, these false
>>>>>>>> premises failed to lead physicists to come up with a unified
>>>>>>>> theory for all the forces
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> A summary of the false premises of current theories:
>>>>>>>> In quantum mechanics, specifically the QFT, a material object will
>>>>>>>> project a field throughout space 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That is incorrect. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You are a woodworker....You are not qualified.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And you are a chemical engineer. You are no more qualified than me.
>>>>> Therefore you are unqualified. 
>>>> 
>>>> Except that I don’t make unsupported statements.
>>> 
>>> Of course you do. You always refer to your own theory. Referring to your
>>> own theory is not a supporting statement of your theory. 
>> 
>> There is nothing wrong with referring to my theory (the Model Mechanics)
>> when it is the only theory that can unify all the forces of nature (including gravity).
> 
> It doesn't "unify" anything, it just talks about it. I can also talk about
> many things, like "I am the queen of England".
> 
> --
> Jan
> 

I think that in Ken’s mind, just writing about physics, trained or
untrained in the subject, qualifies one to be a physicist. 

So my game plan would be to write a 2-page theory of everything in even
simpler everyday language than Ken’s. I will also include a real
calculation with a number for the gravitational constant as the result. I
will then publish it on the internet. I will then have published a theory
that is superior to Ken’s theory, because it is simpler, more accessible to
the lay public, and has at least one calculation in it. This will make me
more qualified than Ken as a physicist. Then I will be in a position to
judge his work. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#471910

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-09-15 07:33 -0700
Message-ID<6681974f-ed3e-4f45-9bbc-28bc393f3c0b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#471707
On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 5:45:53 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 7:39:21 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 1:05:07 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 6:53:31 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 10:51:44 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> The false premises of the current theories that led generations of
> >>>>>>>> physicists to a 100 years of wild goose chase. Specifically, these false
> >>>>>>>> premises failed to lead physicists to come up with a unified
> >>>>>>>> theory for all the forces
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> A summary of the false premises of current theories:
> >>>>>>>> In quantum mechanics, specifically the QFT, a material object will
> >>>>>>>> project a field throughout space 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> That is incorrect. 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> You are a woodworker....You are not qualified.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> And you are a chemical engineer. You are no more qualified than me.
> >>>>> Therefore you are unqualified. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Except that I don’t make unsupported statements.
> >>> 
> >>> Of course you do. You always refer to your own theory. Referring to your
> >>> own theory is not a supporting statement of your theory. 
> >> 
> >> There is nothing wrong with referring to my theory (the Model Mechanics)
> >> when it is the only theory that can unify all the forces of nature (including gravity).
> > 
> > It doesn't "unify" anything, it just talks about it. I can also talk about
> > many things, like "I am the queen of England".
> > 
> > --
> > Jan
> > 
> 
> I think that in Ken’s mind, just writing about physics, trained or
> untrained in the subject, qualifies one to be a physicist. 

You seem to think that being a physicist is a big deal....it is not. Besides physicists don’t have a monopoly to come up with new ideas on physics. My Model Mechanics is a prime example.

> 
> So my game plan would be to write a 2-page theory of everything in even
> simpler everyday language than Ken’s. I will also include a real
> calculation with a number for the gravitational constant as the result. I
> will then publish it on the internet. I will then have published a theory
> that is superior to Ken’s theory, because it is simpler, more accessible to
> the lay public, and has at least one calculation in it. This will make me
> more qualified than Ken as a physicist. Then I will be in a position to
> judge his work. 

I encourage you to do it. Look forward to your result.

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#471915

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-15 15:04 +0000
Message-ID<pnj72j$77d$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#471910
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 5:45:53 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 7:39:21 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 1:05:07 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 6:53:31 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 10:51:44 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> The false premises of the current theories that led generations of
>>>>>>>>>> physicists to a 100 years of wild goose chase. Specifically, these false
>>>>>>>>>> premises failed to lead physicists to come up with a unified
>>>>>>>>>> theory for all the forces
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> A summary of the false premises of current theories:
>>>>>>>>>> In quantum mechanics, specifically the QFT, a material object will
>>>>>>>>>> project a field throughout space 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> That is incorrect. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You are a woodworker....You are not qualified.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And you are a chemical engineer. You are no more qualified than me.
>>>>>>> Therefore you are unqualified. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Except that I don’t make unsupported statements.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Of course you do. You always refer to your own theory. Referring to your
>>>>> own theory is not a supporting statement of your theory. 
>>>> 
>>>> There is nothing wrong with referring to my theory (the Model Mechanics)
>>>> when it is the only theory that can unify all the forces of nature (including gravity).
>>> 
>>> It doesn't "unify" anything, it just talks about it. I can also talk about
>>> many things, like "I am the queen of England".
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Jan
>>> 
>> 
>> I think that in Ken’s mind, just writing about physics, trained or
>> untrained in the subject, qualifies one to be a physicist. 
> 
> You seem to think that being a physicist is a big deal....it is not. 

It is in physics. Specialized fields require specialized training. Being a
trained engineer is a big deal in engineering, too

> Besides physicists don’t have a monopoly to come up with new ideas on
> physics. My Model Mechanics is a prime example.

People uneducated in physics have never once produced a valuable idea in
physics. 

> 
>> 
>> So my game plan would be to write a 2-page theory of everything in even
>> simpler everyday language than Ken’s. I will also include a real
>> calculation with a number for the gravitational constant as the result. I
>> will then publish it on the internet. I will then have published a theory
>> that is superior to Ken’s theory, because it is simpler, more accessible to
>> the lay public, and has at least one calculation in it. This will make me
>> more qualified than Ken as a physicist. Then I will be in a position to
>> judge his work. 
> 
> I encourage you to do it. Look forward to your result.
> 

Lol. 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#471939

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-09-15 11:30 -0700
Message-ID<161b6ebe-e7c3-410c-97c4-4831b9cb9f70@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#471915
On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 11:04:54 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 5:45:53 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 7:39:21 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> >>>> On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 1:05:07 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 6:53:31 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 10:51:44 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> The false premises of the current theories that led generations of
> >>>>>>>>>> physicists to a 100 years of wild goose chase. Specifically, these false
> >>>>>>>>>> premises failed to lead physicists to come up with a unified
> >>>>>>>>>> theory for all the forces
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> A summary of the false premises of current theories:
> >>>>>>>>>> In quantum mechanics, specifically the QFT, a material object will
> >>>>>>>>>> project a field throughout space 
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> That is incorrect. 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> You are a woodworker....You are not qualified.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> And you are a chemical engineer. You are no more qualified than me.
> >>>>>>> Therefore you are unqualified. 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Except that I don’t make unsupported statements.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Of course you do. You always refer to your own theory. Referring to your
> >>>>> own theory is not a supporting statement of your theory. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> There is nothing wrong with referring to my theory (the Model Mechanics)
> >>>> when it is the only theory that can unify all the forces of nature (including gravity).
> >>> 
> >>> It doesn't "unify" anything, it just talks about it. I can also talk about
> >>> many things, like "I am the queen of England".
> >>> 
> >>> --
> >>> Jan
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> I think that in Ken’s mind, just writing about physics, trained or
> >> untrained in the subject, qualifies one to be a physicist. 
> > 
> > You seem to think that being a physicist is a big deal....it is not. 
> 
> It is in physics. Specialized fields require specialized training. Being a
> trained engineer is a big deal in engineering, too

It is not. Specialized training means training inside the box.....that’s why the trained physicists failed to come up with a viable unified theory for all the forces for the last 100 years. I, on the other hand, think outside the box....I invented the Pyramid Technique for doing physics and I was able to come to come up with Model Mechanics in a short time.

> 
> > Besides physicists don’t have a monopoly to come up with new ideas on
> > physics. My Model Mechanics is a prime example.
> 
> People uneducated in physics have never once produced a valuable idea in
> physics.

Wrong Faraday  was not a physicist and he produced some valuable ideas.
> 
> > 
> >> 
> >> So my game plan would be to write a 2-page theory of everything in even
> >> simpler everyday language than Ken’s. I will also include a real
> >> calculation with a number for the gravitational constant as the result. I
> >> will then publish it on the internet. I will then have published a theory
> >> that is superior to Ken’s theory, because it is simpler, more accessible to
> >> the lay public, and has at least one calculation in it. This will make me
> >> more qualified than Ken as a physicist. Then I will be in a position to
> >> judge his work. 
> > 
> > I encourage you to do it. Look forward to your result.
> > 
> 
> Lol. 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#471960

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-15 19:08 +0000
Message-ID<pnjlbb$111n$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#471939
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 11:04:54 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 5:45:53 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 7:39:21 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 1:05:07 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 6:53:31 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 10:51:44 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> The false premises of the current theories that led generations of
>>>>>>>>>>>> physicists to a 100 years of wild goose chase. Specifically, these false
>>>>>>>>>>>> premises failed to lead physicists to come up with a unified
>>>>>>>>>>>> theory for all the forces
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> A summary of the false premises of current theories:
>>>>>>>>>>>> In quantum mechanics, specifically the QFT, a material object will
>>>>>>>>>>>> project a field throughout space 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> That is incorrect. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> You are a woodworker....You are not qualified.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> And you are a chemical engineer. You are no more qualified than me.
>>>>>>>>> Therefore you are unqualified. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Except that I don’t make unsupported statements.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Of course you do. You always refer to your own theory. Referring to your
>>>>>>> own theory is not a supporting statement of your theory. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There is nothing wrong with referring to my theory (the Model Mechanics)
>>>>>> when it is the only theory that can unify all the forces of nature
>>>>>> (including gravity).
>>>>> 
>>>>> It doesn't "unify" anything, it just talks about it. I can also talk about
>>>>> many things, like "I am the queen of England".
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jan
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I think that in Ken’s mind, just writing about physics, trained or
>>>> untrained in the subject, qualifies one to be a physicist. 
>>> 
>>> You seem to think that being a physicist is a big deal....it is not. 
>> 
>> It is in physics. Specialized fields require specialized training. Being a
>> trained engineer is a big deal in engineering, too
> 
> It is not. 

Yes it is.  You cannot be an engineer without a certification, and you
can’t get certification without specialized training. 

> Specialized training means training inside the box.

Training inside the box is essential for thinking outside the box
constructively. 

> ....that’s why the trained physicists failed to come up with a viable
> unified theory for all the forces for the last 100 years. I, on the other
> hand, think outside the box....I invented the Pyramid Technique for doing
> physics and I was able to come to come up with Model Mechanics in a short time.
> 
>> 
>>> Besides physicists don’t have a monopoly to come up with new ideas on
>>> physics. My Model Mechanics is a prime example.
>> 
>> People uneducated in physics have never once produced a valuable idea in
>> physics.
> 
> Wrong Faraday  was not a physicist and he produced some valuable ideas.

Faraday was THOROUGHLY trained in physics. He studied under Humphry Davy,
and he read everything he could get his hands on, and he attended
scientific lectures several times a week. 

You are deluded if you think people have made an impact in physics without
physics training. 

>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> So my game plan would be to write a 2-page theory of everything in even
>>>> simpler everyday language than Ken’s. I will also include a real
>>>> calculation with a number for the gravitational constant as the result. I
>>>> will then publish it on the internet. I will then have published a theory
>>>> that is superior to Ken’s theory, because it is simpler, more accessible to
>>>> the lay public, and has at least one calculation in it. This will make me
>>>> more qualified than Ken as a physicist. Then I will be in a position to
>>>> judge his work. 
>>> 
>>> I encourage you to do it. Look forward to your result.
>>> 
>> 
>> Lol. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 



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#472422

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-09-19 08:42 -0700
Message-ID<ddc1dc60-015b-4a60-8d32-ffd54edac96f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#471960
On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 3:08:32 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 11:04:54 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 5:45:53 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 7:39:21 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> >>>>>> On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 1:05:07 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 6:53:31 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 10:51:44 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The false premises of the current theories that led generations of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> physicists to a 100 years of wild goose chase. Specifically, these false
> >>>>>>>>>>>> premises failed to lead physicists to come up with a unified
> >>>>>>>>>>>> theory for all the forces
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> A summary of the false premises of current theories:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> In quantum mechanics, specifically the QFT, a material object will
> >>>>>>>>>>>> project a field throughout space 
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> That is incorrect. 
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> You are a woodworker....You are not qualified.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> And you are a chemical engineer. You are no more qualified than me.
> >>>>>>>>> Therefore you are unqualified. 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Except that I don’t make unsupported statements.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Of course you do. You always refer to your own theory. Referring to your
> >>>>>>> own theory is not a supporting statement of your theory. 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> There is nothing wrong with referring to my theory (the Model Mechanics)
> >>>>>> when it is the only theory that can unify all the forces of nature
> >>>>>> (including gravity).
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> It doesn't "unify" anything, it just talks about it. I can also talk about
> >>>>> many things, like "I am the queen of England".
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Jan
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> I think that in Ken’s mind, just writing about physics, trained or
> >>>> untrained in the subject, qualifies one to be a physicist. 
> >>> 
> >>> You seem to think that being a physicist is a big deal....it is not. 
> >> 
> >> It is in physics. Specialized fields require specialized training. Being a
> >> trained engineer is a big deal in engineering, too
> > 
> > It is not. 
> 
> Yes it is.  You cannot be an engineer without a certification, and you
> can’t get certification without specialized training. 

The problem is: the train manual for physics is outdated and obsolete. New paradigms are needed and Model Mechanics provides such.

> 
> > Specialized training means training inside the box.
> 
> Training inside the box is essential for thinking outside the box
> constructively. 

No, thinking outside the box means discarding old ideas as: force messengers, curvature in spacetime, time dilation and length contraction etc.
> 
> > ....that’s why the trained physicists failed to come up with a viable
> > unified theory for all the forces for the last 100 years. I, on the other
> > hand, think outside the box....I invented the Pyramid Technique for doing
> > physics and I was able to come to come up with Model Mechanics in a short time.
> > 
> >> 
> >>> Besides physicists don’t have a monopoly to come up with new ideas on
> >>> physics. My Model Mechanics is a prime example.
> >> 
> >> People uneducated in physics have never once produced a valuable idea in
> >> physics.
> > 
> > Wrong Faraday  was not a physicist and he produced some valuable ideas.
> 
> Faraday was THOROUGHLY trained in physics. 

No he was not, Maxwell gave mathematical description of his work.

>He studied under Humphry Davy,
> and he read everything he could get his hands on, and he attended
> scientific lectures several times a week. 
> 
> You are deluded if you think people have made an impact in physics without
> physics training. 
> 
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> So my game plan would be to write a 2-page theory of everything in even
> >>>> simpler everyday language than Ken’s. I will also include a real
> >>>> calculation with a number for the gravitational constant as the result. I
> >>>> will then publish it on the internet. I will then have published a theory
> >>>> that is superior to Ken’s theory, because it is simpler, more accessible to
> >>>> the lay public, and has at least one calculation in it. This will make me
> >>>> more qualified than Ken as a physicist. Then I will be in a position to
> >>>> judge his work. 
> >>> 
> >>> I encourage you to do it. Look forward to your result.
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> Lol. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#472443

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-19 17:12 +0000
Message-ID<pnu018$1iqv$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#472422
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 3:08:32 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 11:04:54 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 5:45:53 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 7:39:21 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 1:05:07 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 6:53:31 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 10:51:44 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The false premises of the current theories that led generations of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> physicists to a 100 years of wild goose chase. Specifically, these false
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> premises failed to lead physicists to come up with a unified
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> theory for all the forces
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A summary of the false premises of current theories:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In quantum mechanics, specifically the QFT, a material object will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project a field throughout space 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is incorrect. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> You are a woodworker....You are not qualified.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> And you are a chemical engineer. You are no more qualified than me.
>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore you are unqualified. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Except that I don’t make unsupported statements.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Of course you do. You always refer to your own theory. Referring to your
>>>>>>>>> own theory is not a supporting statement of your theory. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There is nothing wrong with referring to my theory (the Model Mechanics)
>>>>>>>> when it is the only theory that can unify all the forces of nature
>>>>>>>> (including gravity).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It doesn't "unify" anything, it just talks about it. I can also talk about
>>>>>>> many things, like "I am the queen of England".
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think that in Ken’s mind, just writing about physics, trained or
>>>>>> untrained in the subject, qualifies one to be a physicist. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> You seem to think that being a physicist is a big deal....it is not. 
>>>> 
>>>> It is in physics. Specialized fields require specialized training. Being a
>>>> trained engineer is a big deal in engineering, too
>>> 
>>> It is not. 
>> 
>> Yes it is.  You cannot be an engineer without a certification, and you
>> can’t get certification without specialized training. 
> 
> The problem is: the train manual for physics is outdated and obsolete.
> New paradigms are needed and Model Mechanics provides such.

Sorry Ken but you’ve never read the training manual so you don’t know if
it’s obsolete or not. Saying that it’s obsolete as an excuse for not
reading it just makes you look like a loon. 

> 
>> 
>>> Specialized training means training inside the box.
>> 
>> Training inside the box is essential for thinking outside the box
>> constructively. 
> 
> No, thinking outside the box means discarding old ideas as: force
> messengers, curvature in spacetime, time dilation and length contraction etc.

Any loon can discard ideas. Discarding ideas like Canada, atoms, vertebrate
zoology is not a virtue. One doesn’t become a person of interest just by
rejecting ideas. 

>> 
>>> ....that’s why the trained physicists failed to come up with a viable
>>> unified theory for all the forces for the last 100 years. I, on the other
>>> hand, think outside the box....I invented the Pyramid Technique for doing
>>> physics and I was able to come to come up with Model Mechanics in a short time.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Besides physicists don’t have a monopoly to come up with new ideas on
>>>>> physics. My Model Mechanics is a prime example.
>>>> 
>>>> People uneducated in physics have never once produced a valuable idea in
>>>> physics.
>>> 
>>> Wrong Faraday  was not a physicist and he produced some valuable ideas.
>> 
>> Faraday was THOROUGHLY trained in physics. 
> 
> No he was not, Maxwell gave mathematical description of his work.

You have you history wrong, Ken. 

> 
>> He studied under Humphry Davy,
>> and he read everything he could get his hands on, and he attended
>> scientific lectures several times a week. 
>> 
>> You are deluded if you think people have made an impact in physics without
>> physics training. 
>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So my game plan would be to write a 2-page theory of everything in even
>>>>>> simpler everyday language than Ken’s. I will also include a real
>>>>>> calculation with a number for the gravitational constant as the result. I
>>>>>> will then publish it on the internet. I will then have published a theory
>>>>>> that is superior to Ken’s theory, because it is simpler, more accessible to
>>>>>> the lay public, and has at least one calculation in it. This will make me
>>>>>> more qualified than Ken as a physicist. Then I will be in a position to
>>>>>> judge his work. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I encourage you to do it. Look forward to your result.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Lol. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 



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#472588

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-09-21 06:33 -0700
Message-ID<e6eb270a-98f4-439e-8f1b-a1812660ff52@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#472443
On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 1:12:11 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 3:08:32 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 11:04:54 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 5:45:53 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>> JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 7:39:21 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 1:05:07 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 6:53:31 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 10:51:44 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The false premises of the current theories that led generations of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> physicists to a 100 years of wild goose chase. Specifically, these false
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> premises failed to lead physicists to come up with a unified
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> theory for all the forces
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> A summary of the false premises of current theories:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In quantum mechanics, specifically the QFT, a material object will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> project a field throughout space 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That is incorrect. 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> You are a woodworker....You are not qualified.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> And you are a chemical engineer. You are no more qualified than me.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Therefore you are unqualified. 
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Except that I don’t make unsupported statements.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Of course you do. You always refer to your own theory. Referring to your
> >>>>>>>>> own theory is not a supporting statement of your theory. 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> There is nothing wrong with referring to my theory (the Model Mechanics)
> >>>>>>>> when it is the only theory that can unify all the forces of nature
> >>>>>>>> (including gravity).
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> It doesn't "unify" anything, it just talks about it. I can also talk about
> >>>>>>> many things, like "I am the queen of England".
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Jan
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I think that in Ken’s mind, just writing about physics, trained or
> >>>>>> untrained in the subject, qualifies one to be a physicist. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> You seem to think that being a physicist is a big deal....it is not. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> It is in physics. Specialized fields require specialized training. Being a
> >>>> trained engineer is a big deal in engineering, too
> >>> 
> >>> It is not. 
> >> 
> >> Yes it is.  You cannot be an engineer without a certification, and you
> >> can’t get certification without specialized training. 
> > 
> > The problem is: the train manual for physics is outdated and obsolete.
> > New paradigms are needed and Model Mechanics provides such.
> 
> Sorry Ken but you’ve never read the training manual so you don’t know if
> it’s obsolete or not. Saying that it’s obsolete as an excuse for not
> reading it just makes you look like a loon. 

It is obsolete after a 100 years of failure trying to find a quantum theory of gravity. Model Mechanics provides the mechanism for all the forces.

> 
> > 
> >> 
> >>> Specialized training means training inside the box.
> >> 
> >> Training inside the box is essential for thinking outside the box
> >> constructively. 
> > 
> > No, thinking outside the box means discarding old ideas as: force
> > messengers, curvature in spacetime, time dilation and length contraction etc.
> 
> Any loon can discard ideas. Discarding ideas like Canada, atoms, vertebrate
> zoology is not a virtue. One doesn’t become a person of interest just by
> rejecting ideas. 
> 
> >> 
> >>> ....that’s why the trained physicists failed to come up with a viable
> >>> unified theory for all the forces for the last 100 years. I, on the other
> >>> hand, think outside the box....I invented the Pyramid Technique for doing
> >>> physics and I was able to come to come up with Model Mechanics in a short time.
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Besides physicists don’t have a monopoly to come up with new ideas on
> >>>>> physics. My Model Mechanics is a prime example.
> >>>> 
> >>>> People uneducated in physics have never once produced a valuable idea in
> >>>> physics.
> >>> 
> >>> Wrong Faraday  was not a physicist and he produced some valuable ideas.
> >> 
> >> Faraday was THOROUGHLY trained in physics. 
> > 
> > No he was not, Maxwell gave mathematical description of his work.
> 
> You have you history wrong, Ken. 

You are delusional....Maxwell did provide the math for Faraday’s experimental work.
> 

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#472596

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-21 15:00 +0000
Message-ID<po3137$1rsv$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#472588
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 1:12:11 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 3:08:32 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 11:04:54 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 5:45:53 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>> JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 7:39:21 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 1:05:07 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 6:53:31 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 10:51:44 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The false premises of the current theories that led generations of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> physicists to a 100 years of wild goose chase. Specifically, these false
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> premises failed to lead physicists to come up with a unified
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> theory for all the forces
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A summary of the false premises of current theories:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In quantum mechanics, specifically the QFT, a material object will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project a field throughout space 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is incorrect. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are a woodworker....You are not qualified.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you are a chemical engineer. You are no more qualified than me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore you are unqualified. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Except that I don’t make unsupported statements.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Of course you do. You always refer to your own theory. Referring to your
>>>>>>>>>>> own theory is not a supporting statement of your theory. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> There is nothing wrong with referring to my theory (the Model Mechanics)
>>>>>>>>>> when it is the only theory that can unify all the forces of nature
>>>>>>>>>> (including gravity).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It doesn't "unify" anything, it just talks about it. I can also talk about
>>>>>>>>> many things, like "I am the queen of England".
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I think that in Ken’s mind, just writing about physics, trained or
>>>>>>>> untrained in the subject, qualifies one to be a physicist. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You seem to think that being a physicist is a big deal....it is not. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is in physics. Specialized fields require specialized training. Being a
>>>>>> trained engineer is a big deal in engineering, too
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is not. 
>>>> 
>>>> Yes it is.  You cannot be an engineer without a certification, and you
>>>> can’t get certification without specialized training. 
>>> 
>>> The problem is: the train manual for physics is outdated and obsolete.
>>> New paradigms are needed and Model Mechanics provides such.
>> 
>> Sorry Ken but you’ve never read the training manual so you don’t know if
>> it’s obsolete or not. Saying that it’s obsolete as an excuse for not
>> reading it just makes you look like a loon. 
> 
> It is obsolete after a 100 years of failure trying to find a quantum
> theory of gravity. Model Mechanics provides the mechanism for all the forces.

Quantum gravity has only been sought since the 70s. Your history is way
off. 

> 
>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Specialized training means training inside the box.
>>>> 
>>>> Training inside the box is essential for thinking outside the box
>>>> constructively. 
>>> 
>>> No, thinking outside the box means discarding old ideas as: force
>>> messengers, curvature in spacetime, time dilation and length contraction etc.
>> 
>> Any loon can discard ideas. Discarding ideas like Canada, atoms, vertebrate
>> zoology is not a virtue. One doesn’t become a person of interest just by
>> rejecting ideas. 
>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ....that’s why the trained physicists failed to come up with a viable
>>>>> unified theory for all the forces for the last 100 years. I, on the other
>>>>> hand, think outside the box....I invented the Pyramid Technique for doing
>>>>> physics and I was able to come to come up with Model Mechanics in a short time.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Besides physicists don’t have a monopoly to come up with new ideas on
>>>>>>> physics. My Model Mechanics is a prime example.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> People uneducated in physics have never once produced a valuable idea in
>>>>>> physics.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wrong Faraday  was not a physicist and he produced some valuable ideas.
>>>> 
>>>> Faraday was THOROUGHLY trained in physics. 
>>> 
>>> No he was not, Maxwell gave mathematical description of his work.
>> 
>> You have you history wrong, Ken. 
> 
> You are delusional....Maxwell did provide the math for Faraday’s experimental work.
>> 
> 
> 



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#471412

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-09-11 17:30 +0000
Message-ID<pn8u2u$jn1$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#471403
kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 6:53:31 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:

>> > You are a woodworker....You are not qualified.

>> And you are a chemical engineer. You are no more qualified than me.
>> Therefore you are unqualified.

And it's official, Ken. A REAL physicist says that YOU are unqualified.

: I am a physicist, so I am qualified. I declare that what Bodkin said is 
: correct. Therefore you, idiot ken, are incorrect. And since I am 
: qualified, what I say must be true.


>Except that I don't make unsupported statements.

That's all you do is make unsupported statements! You can't even make
a single prediction from any of your claims. Not one!

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#471423

FromWilbur Foley <boue@eywffl.uf>
Date2018-09-11 19:07 +0000
Message-ID<pn93qa$1mcs$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#471412
Michael Moroney wrote:

> kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:
> 
>>On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 6:53:31 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> 
>>> > You are a woodworker....You are not qualified.
> 
>>> And you are a chemical engineer. You are no more qualified than me.
>>> Therefore you are unqualified.
> 
> And it's official, Ken. A REAL physicist says that YOU are unqualified.

Incorrect. Relativity is been wrong for now 114 years. However, not a 
direct fault of Einstein, but Poincare and Voltaire. They are the fathers 
of altered space and altered time.

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#471359

Fromrotchm <rotchm@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-10 19:21 -0700
Message-ID<af52ea4a-9463-43fa-a755-6a1c83075641@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#471337
On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 6:24:56 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 10:51:44 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:

> You are a woodworker....You are not qualified.

I am a physicist, so I am qualified. I declare that what Bodkin said is correct. Therefore you, idiot ken, are incorrect. And since I am qualified, what I say must be true. 

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#471402

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-09-11 09:31 -0700
Message-ID<e28c73fb-24b6-4fb1-8da2-13742e2565b5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#471359
On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 10:22:01 PM UTC-4, rotchm wrote:
> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 6:24:56 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
> > On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 10:51:44 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> 
> > You are a woodworker....You are not qualified.
> 
> I am a physicist, so I am qualified. I declare that what Bodkin said is correct. Therefore you, idiot ken, are incorrect. And since I am qualified, what I say must be true.

You have no clue. Suggest that you check with your Dad.

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#471438

From"Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net>
Date2018-09-11 13:08 -0700
Message-ID<b4acd921-2708-4da9-8809-c7f5de855a3d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#471359
On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 7:22:01 PM UTC-7, rotchm wrote:
> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 6:24:56 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
> > On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 10:51:44 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> 
> > You are a woodworker....You are not qualified.
> 
> I am a physicist, so I am qualified. 
No, you are just a pretender. 

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#471440

FromWilbur Foley <boue@eywffl.uf>
Date2018-09-11 20:15 +0000
Message-ID<pn97pc$1svd$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#471438
Dono, wrote:

> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 7:22:01 PM UTC-7, rotchm wrote:
>> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 6:24:56 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
>> > On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 10:51:44 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> 
>> > You are a woodworker....You are not qualified.
>> 
>> I am a physicist, so I am qualified.
>
> No, you are just a pretender.

Indeed, and a npa web-hotel provider.

https://wiki.naturalphilosophy.org/index.php?title=David_de_Hilster
"artist, filmmaker, and musician and dissident scientist since meeting 
Argentinian physicist Dr. Ricardo Carezani in 1992 who showed Einstein's 
Special theory of Relativity wrong in the early 1940s."

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#471473

From"Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net>
Date2018-09-11 16:41 -0700
Message-ID<844c53f6-0093-4f75-a098-2e48365e97b7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#471440
On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 1:15:44 PM UTC-7, Wilbur Foley wrote:
> Dono, wrote:
> 
> > On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 7:22:01 PM UTC-7, rotchm wrote:
> >> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 6:24:56 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
> >> > On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 10:51:44 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> 
> >> > You are a woodworker....You are not qualified.
> >> 
> >> I am a physicist, so I am qualified.
> >
> > No, you are just a pretender.
> 
> Indeed, and a npa web-hotel provider.
> 
> https://wiki.naturalphilosophy.org/index.php?title=David_de_Hilster
> "artist, filmmaker, and musician and dissident scientist since meeting 
> Argentinian physicist Dr. Ricardo Carezani in 1992 who showed Einstein's 
> Special theory of Relativity wrong in the early 1940s."

No de Hilster, another crackpot: Stephane Baune

http://wiki.naturalphilosophy.org/index.php?title=Stephane_Baune

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#471535

FromWilbur Foley <boue@eywffl.uf>
Date2018-09-12 16:30 +0000
Message-ID<pnbeve$1ehq$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#471473
Dono, wrote:

> No de Hilster, another crackpot: Stephane Baune
> 
> http://wiki.naturalphilosophy.org/index.php?title=Stephane_Baune

He has an yacht??

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#471296

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-09-10 17:25 +0000
Message-ID<pn69ef$c7j$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#471248
kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

> A summary of the false premises of current theories:

<snip mostly inaccurate shortcomings of current theories>

>I came to the conclusion that there is one physical model of our universe
>that can replace these divergent false premises of GRT and QFT.

Why would anyone want to replace something that is not 100% complete with
one that's even worse??

> Chapter 3 of my book in the following link:
>http://www.modelmеchanics.org/2016ibook.pdf

Doesn't work.

>The main feature of Model Mechanics are as follows:
It is a complete failure.
It is an absolute failure.
It is a total failure.
It is a disaster of a theory.

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#471299

From"Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net>
Date2018-09-10 10:33 -0700
Message-ID<a3e1ec41-9acc-4709-b04e-f73d508269fa@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#471248
On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 6:57:25 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> The false premises of the current theories that led generations of physicists to a 100 years of wild goose chase. Specifically, these false premises failed to lead physicists to come up with a unified theory for all the forces
> 
Luckily Ken Shito came along to set them straight

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