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| First post | 2018-09-06 22:05 -0700 |
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Subatomic particles blow macro bubbles in the bubble chamber? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-06 22:05 -0700
Re: Subatomic particles blow macro bubbles in the bubble chamber? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-09-07 09:26 -0500
Re: Subatomic particles blow macro bubbles in the bubble chamber? Haných Ltskáš <lnni@yawlucla.ha> - 2018-09-07 16:44 +0000
Re: Subatomic particles blow macro bubbles in the bubble chamber? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-07 17:16 +0000
Re: Subatomic particles blow macro bubbles in the bubble chamber? Haných Ltskáš <lnni@yawlucla.ha> - 2018-09-07 18:40 +0000
Re: Subatomic particles blow macro bubbles in the bubble chamber? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-09-07 16:25 -0500
Re: Subatomic particles blow macro bubbles in the bubble chamber? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-07 14:54 -0700
Re: Subatomic particles blow macro bubbles in the bubble chamber? Lorent Regoire <euar@ewghwpq.gr> - 2018-09-08 11:03 +0000
Re: Subatomic particles blow macro bubbles in the bubble chamber? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-08 13:01 -0700
Re: Subatomic particles blow macro bubbles in the bubble chamber? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-08 20:18 +0000
Re: Subatomic particles blow macro bubbles in the bubble chamber? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-08 23:45 +0200
Re: Subatomic particles blow macro bubbles in the bubble chamber? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-08 16:43 -0700
Re: Subatomic particles blow macro bubbles in the bubble chamber? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-09 11:09 +0200
Re: Subatomic particles blow macro bubbles in the bubble chamber? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-09-08 14:24 -0500
Re: Subatomic particles blow macro bubbles in the bubble chamber? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-08 13:00 -0700
Re: Subatomic particles blow macro bubbles in the bubble chamber? Lorent Regoire <euar@ewghwpq.gr> - 2018-09-08 10:57 +0000
Re: Subatomic particles blow macro bubbles in the bubble chamber? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-09-08 14:25 -0500
Re: Subatomic particles blow macro bubbles in the bubble chamber? Lorent Regoires <ewab@ewgvpq.gn> - 2018-09-08 21:04 +0000
Re: Subatomic particles blow macro bubbles in the bubble chamber? Lorent Regoires <ewab@ewgvpq.gn> - 2018-09-08 21:18 +0000
Re: Subatomic particles blow macro bubbles in the bubble chamber? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-09-09 02:25 -0700
Re: Subatomic particles blow macro bubbles in the bubble chamber? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-07 12:12 -0700
Re: Subatomic particles blow macro bubbles in the bubble chamber? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-07 19:42 +0000
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| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 22:05 -0700 |
| Subject | Subatomic particles blow macro bubbles in the bubble chamber? |
| Message-ID | <8809dbe3-e523-4744-9d13-a72c1197072e@googlegroups.com> |
The Particles are far too small to form macro bubbles. and there are no nano bubbles. how do bubbles close? Mitchell Raemsch
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| From | Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 09:26 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <qLudncOQuIsWFw_GnZ2dnUU7_8zNnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #470791 |
On 9/7/18 12:05 AM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: > The Particles are far too small to form macro bubbles. > and there are no nano bubbles. The liquid in a bubble chamber is superheated. That is, it is slightly above its boiling temperature, right on the verge of boiling. This is normally achieved by a sudden expansion of the volume of the liquid, lowering its pressure and boiling temperature. When a charged particle traverses the liquid, it deposits a small amount of energy as it passes, and this is enough to induce local boiling, thus forming tiny bubbles along its track. Tom Roberts
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| From | Haných Ltskáš <lnni@yawlucla.ha> |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 16:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pmu9sn$30m$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #470819 |
Tom Roberts wrote: > On 9/7/18 12:05 AM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: >> The Particles are far too small to form macro bubbles. >> and there are no nano bubbles. > > The liquid in a bubble chamber is superheated. That is, it is slightly > above its boiling temperature, right on the verge of boiling. This is > normally achieved by a sudden expansion of the volume of the liquid, > lowering its pressure and boiling temperature. When a charged particle > traverses the liquid, it deposits a small amount of energy as it passes, > and this is enough to induce local boiling, thus forming tiny bubbles > along its track. How come those antiparticles are not absorbed and cancelled out immediately?
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 17:16 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pmubp2$9hd$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #470833 |
The nymshifting troll, trolling as "Haných Ltská." <lnni@yawlucla.ha> trolls: >Tom Roberts wrote: >> On 9/7/18 12:05 AM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: >>> The Particles are far too small to form macro bubbles. >>> and there are no nano bubbles. >> >> The liquid in a bubble chamber is superheated. That is, it is slightly >> above its boiling temperature, right on the verge of boiling. This is >> normally achieved by a sudden expansion of the volume of the liquid, >> lowering its pressure and boiling temperature. When a charged particle >> traverses the liquid, it deposits a small amount of energy as it passes, >> and this is enough to induce local boiling, thus forming tiny bubbles >> along its track. >How come those antiparticles are not absorbed and cancelled out >immediately? What antiparticles, nymshifter? Nobody mentioned antiparticles except for you.
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| From | Haných Ltskáš <lnni@yawlucla.ha> |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 18:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pmugnr$g11$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #470843 |
The nymshifting troll, trolling as Michael Moroney wrote: > "Prof. Dr. Haných Ltská." <lnni@yawlucla.ha> writes: >>Tom Roberts wrote: > >>> On 9/7/18 12:05 AM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: >>>> The Particles are far too small to form macro bubbles. >>>> and there are no nano bubbles. >>> >>> The liquid in a bubble chamber is superheated. That is, it is slightly >>> above its boiling temperature, right on the verge of boiling. This is >>> normally achieved by a sudden expansion of the volume of the liquid, >>> lowering its pressure and boiling temperature. When a charged particle >>> traverses the liquid, it deposits a small amount of energy as it >>> passes, >>> and this is enough to induce local boiling, thus forming tiny bubbles >>> along its track. > >>How come those antiparticles are not absorbed and cancelled out >>immediately? > > What antiparticles, nymshifter? Nobody mentioned antiparticles except > for you. this unemployable CEO of morony doesn't even know, that those chambers are used both to antiparticles, hence deviated in the opposite direction. Basic physics. Go back under your bridge, you too.
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| From | Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 16:25 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <VOOdnWJTvckgcQ_GnZ2dnUU7_83NnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #470833 |
On 9/7/18 11:44 AM, Haných Ltskáš wrote: > Tom Roberts wrote: > >> On 9/7/18 12:05 AM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: >>> The Particles are far too small to form macro bubbles. >>> and there are no nano bubbles. >> >> The liquid in a bubble chamber is superheated. That is, it is slightly >> above its boiling temperature, right on the verge of boiling. This is >> normally achieved by a sudden expansion of the volume of the liquid, >> lowering its pressure and boiling temperature. When a charged particle >> traverses the liquid, it deposits a small amount of energy as it passes, >> and this is enough to induce local boiling, thus forming tiny bubbles >> along its track. > > How come those antiparticles are not absorbed and cancelled out > immediately? They are moving too fast (i.e. have a kinetic energy that's too large). For instance, for a positron to annihilate with an electron, >99% of the time they first form positronium in an excited state, which cascades down to its ground state (emitting photons), from which they annihilate. That initial positronium cannot form if the positron has more than a few eV of kinetic energy. Bubble chambers were used to observe particles with many MeV or GeV of kinetic energy. Tom Roberts
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| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 14:54 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4a3cd73d-ee89-4493-881a-57aa1defe27a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #470889 |
On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 2:25:24 PM UTC-7, tjrob137 wrote: > On 9/7/18 11:44 AM, Haných Ltskáš wrote: > > Tom Roberts wrote: > > > >> On 9/7/18 12:05 AM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: > >>> The Particles are far too small to form macro bubbles. > >>> and there are no nano bubbles. > >> > >> The liquid in a bubble chamber is superheated. That is, it is slightly > >> above its boiling temperature, right on the verge of boiling. This is > >> normally achieved by a sudden expansion of the volume of the liquid, > >> lowering its pressure and boiling temperature. When a charged particle > >> traverses the liquid, it deposits a small amount of energy as it passes, > >> and this is enough to induce local boiling, thus forming tiny bubbles > >> along its track. > > > > How come those antiparticles are not absorbed and cancelled out > > immediately? > > They are moving too fast (i.e. have a kinetic energy that's too large). > > For instance, for a positron to annihilate with an electron, >99% of the time > they first form positronium in an excited state, which cascades down to its > ground state (emitting photons), from which they annihilate. That initial > positronium cannot form if the positron has more than a few eV of kinetic > energy. Bubble chambers were used to observe particles with many MeV or GeV of > kinetic energy. > > Tom Roberts How can we ever contain anti matter when it would first annihilate? No Tom. There is no anti matter. Science is wrong about an anti-world. Mitchell Raemsch
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| From | Lorent Regoire <euar@ewghwpq.gr> |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 11:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pn0aab$15ko$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #470895 |
mitchrae3323 wrote: >> For instance, for a positron to annihilate with an electron, >99% of >> the time they first form positronium in an excited state, which >> cascades down to its ground state (emitting photons), from which they >> annihilate. >> That initial positronium cannot form if the positron has more than a >> few eV of kinetic energy. Bubble chambers were used to observe >> particles with many MeV or GeV of kinetic energy. Tom Roberts > > How can we ever contain anti matter when it would first annihilate? No > Tom. There is no anti matter. Science is wrong about an anti-world. It can't be wrong, once the deviation takes place. Leave me alone, Master.
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| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 13:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ee1caa5d-484b-4b0b-8983-937aaefc43c3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #470951 |
On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 4:03:43 AM UTC-7, Lorent Regoire wrote: > mitchrae3323 wrote: > > >> For instance, for a positron to annihilate with an electron, >99% of > >> the time they first form positronium in an excited state, which > >> cascades down to its ground state (emitting photons), from which they > >> annihilate. > >> That initial positronium cannot form if the positron has more than a > >> few eV of kinetic energy. Bubble chambers were used to observe > >> particles with many MeV or GeV of kinetic energy. Tom Roberts > > > > How can we ever contain anti matter when it would first annihilate? No > > Tom. There is no anti matter. Science is wrong about an anti-world. > > It can't be wrong, And why? Mitchell Raemsch
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 20:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pn1ari$bvg$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #471032 |
mitchrae3323@gmail.com writes: >On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 4:03:43 AM UTC-7, Lorent Regoire wrote: >> mitchrae3323 wrote: >> >> >> For instance, for a positron to annihilate with an electron, >99% of >> >> the time they first form positronium in an excited state, which >> >> cascades down to its ground state (emitting photons), from which they >> >> annihilate. >> >> That initial positronium cannot form if the positron has more than a >> >> few eV of kinetic energy. Bubble chambers were used to observe >> >> particles with many MeV or GeV of kinetic energy. Tom Roberts >> > >> > How can we ever contain anti matter when it would first annihilate? No >> > Tom. There is no anti matter. Science is wrong about an anti-world. >> >> It can't be wrong, >And why? Because we have seen/detected it. "It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong." -Richard P. Feynman Since we have seen/detected antimatter many, many times, your claim that there is no antimatter is wrong. Period.
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 23:45 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <da13be9d-a4e1-8afb-8478-eb6743013891@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #471032 |
mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 4:03:43 AM UTC-7, Lorent Regoire wrote:
>> mitchrae3323 wrote:
>>> How can we ever contain anti matter when it would first annihilate? No
>>> Tom. There is no anti matter. Science is wrong about an anti-world.
>> It can't be wrong,
>
> And why?
Good question.
Firstly because the total electric charge Q of a system is observably a
conserved quantity: it does not change over time, it does not disappear,
it is not lost. Yet there are processes that change the electric charge
of a particle.
For example, a positively charged proton (p⁺) in the atomic nucleus "decays"
to a neutron (n⁰) with zero charge (β⁺-decay), and the positive electric
charge Q = (+)1 that the proton had, cannot just disappear: it has to go
somewhere.
It turns out that it does not go to another proton, but to a particle with
much less mass than a proton, a mass very close to that of an electron – an
anti-electron, called a positron (e⁺):
p⁺ → n⁰ + e⁺ + ν_e
[The quantum/standard model of particle physics is that one of the
up-quarks (Q_u = +⅔) of a proton changes flavor to become a down-quark
(Q_d = −⅓) of a neutron, by emitting a virtual W⁺ boson which decays to
a positron and a neutrino:
uud → udd + W⁺
W⁺ → e⁺ + ν_e.]
Regarding electric charge:
Q_p = Q_n + Q_e⁺ + Q_ν
1 = 0 + 1 + 0. ∎
[Accordingly, in the quantum/standard model,
(Q_u + Q_u + Q_d) = (Q_u + Q_d + Q_d) + Q_W⁺
(⅔ + ⅔ − ⅓ ) = (⅔ − ⅓ − ⅓ ) + 1
1 = 0 + 1
Q_W⁺ = Q_e⁺ + Q_ν
1 = 1 + 0. ∎
In both models, ν_e is an (electron-)neutrino. The same process
happens when one of the protons of unstable helium-2, formed by the
fusion of two protons (hydrogen-1 each) "decays" to a neutron, leaving
deuterium (hydrogen-2). Therefore we detect *solar* neutrinos, i.e.
neutrinos coming from the Sun – *indirect* evidence that there *is*
anti-matter. And as *our* existence depends on this decay, *we* are
indirect evidence of anti-matter as well.]
That a positively charged particle is emitted can be detected by applying a
static electric field: positively charged particles move in one direction
(towards the negative pole), negatively charged particles in the opposite
direction (towards the positive pole). That it is not a proton or another
positively charged hadron can be detected by measuring the particle’s mass.
This process is used, for example, in medicine in a positron-emission
tomography (PET) scan: The patient drinks a fluid containing a (harmless)
radioactive isotope (for example, fluorine-18) that is incorporated into the
patient’s cells (as part of a glucose substitute) and emits positrons as its
nuclei *slowly* decay. The emitted positrons (Q_e⁺ = 1) annihilate with the
electrons (Q_e⁻ = −1) of the matter of the surrounding tissue to produce at
least two photons (γ; Q_γ = 0):
e⁺ + e⁻ → γ + γ (+ γ + …)
Again, electric charge is conserved:
1 + (−1) = 0 + 0 (+ 0 + …).
The produced photons can be detected, and the directions from where they
came can be determined. From where more photons came, there are more cells
that use more glucose than others (than there should be; for example, a
cancer tumor). This allows a computer to create a three-dimensional image
of the patient’s body(, and an oncologist to identify tumors without an
operation).
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positron_emission_tomography#Oncology>
--
PointedEars
Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 16:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <95f462d8-5062-451d-9940-a6f79242dee3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #471072 |
On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 2:45:06 PM UTC-7, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: > > On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 4:03:43 AM UTC-7, Lorent Regoire wrote: > >> mitchrae3323 wrote: > >>> How can we ever contain anti matter when it would first annihilate? No > >>> Tom. There is no anti matter. Science is wrong about an anti-world. > >> It can't be wrong, > > > > And why? > > Good question. Science can never be wrong? That is hypocritical Tommy... That could never be real. Please show what is right about a black hole and how it can Only be right... Escape velocity has never happened to light... It doesn't slow down. Light bubbles can always get out of gravity Tommy. Mitchell Raemsch; God creates gravity > > Firstly because the total electric charge Q of a system is observably a > conserved quantity: it does not change over time, it does not disappear, > it is not lost. Yet there are processes that change the electric charge > of a particle. > > For example, a positively charged proton (p⁺) in the atomic nucleus "decays" > to a neutron (n⁰) with zero charge (β⁺-decay), and the positive electric > charge Q = (+)1 that the proton had, cannot just disappear: it has to go > somewhere. > > It turns out that it does not go to another proton, but to a particle with > much less mass than a proton, a mass very close to that of an electron – an > anti-electron, called a positron (e⁺): > > p⁺ → n⁰ + e⁺ + ν_e > > [The quantum/standard model of particle physics is that one of the > up-quarks (Q_u = +⅔) of a proton changes flavor to become a down-quark > (Q_d = −⅓) of a neutron, by emitting a virtual W⁺ boson which decays to > a positron and a neutrino: > > uud → udd + W⁺ > W⁺ → e⁺ + ν_e.] > > Regarding electric charge: > > Q_p = Q_n + Q_e⁺ + Q_ν > 1 = 0 + 1 + 0. ∎ > > [Accordingly, in the quantum/standard model, > > (Q_u + Q_u + Q_d) = (Q_u + Q_d + Q_d) + Q_W⁺ > (⅔ + ⅔ − ⅓ ) = (⅔ − ⅓ − ⅓ ) + 1 > 1 = 0 + 1 > > Q_W⁺ = Q_e⁺ + Q_ν > 1 = 1 + 0. ∎ > > In both models, ν_e is an (electron-)neutrino. The same process > happens when one of the protons of unstable helium-2, formed by the > fusion of two protons (hydrogen-1 each) "decays" to a neutron, leaving > deuterium (hydrogen-2). Therefore we detect *solar* neutrinos, i.e. > neutrinos coming from the Sun – *indirect* evidence that there *is* > anti-matter. And as *our* existence depends on this decay, *we* are > indirect evidence of anti-matter as well.] > > That a positively charged particle is emitted can be detected by applying a > static electric field: positively charged particles move in one direction > (towards the negative pole), negatively charged particles in the opposite > direction (towards the positive pole). That it is not a proton or another > positively charged hadron can be detected by measuring the particle’s mass. > > > This process is used, for example, in medicine in a positron-emission > tomography (PET) scan: The patient drinks a fluid containing a (harmless) > radioactive isotope (for example, fluorine-18) that is incorporated into the > patient’s cells (as part of a glucose substitute) and emits positrons as its > nuclei *slowly* decay. The emitted positrons (Q_e⁺ = 1) annihilate with the > electrons (Q_e⁻ = −1) of the matter of the surrounding tissue to produce at > least two photons (γ; Q_γ = 0): > > e⁺ + e⁻ → γ + γ (+ γ + …) > > Again, electric charge is conserved: > > 1 + (−1) = 0 + 0 (+ 0 + …). > > The produced photons can be detected, and the directions from where they > came can be determined. From where more photons came, there are more cells > that use more glucose than others (than there should be; for example, a > cancer tumor). This allows a computer to create a three-dimensional image > of the patient’s body(, and an oncologist to identify tumors without an > operation). > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positron_emission_tomography#Oncology> > > -- > PointedEars > > Twitter: @PointedEars2 > Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail. You are a nerd like Stephen Hawking was the hard boiled Egg of all...
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2018-09-09 11:09 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <cbd9fad2-96d9-eda7-02cc-c65fec0694b3@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #471090 |
mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 2:45:06 PM UTC-7, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >> mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: >>> On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 4:03:43 AM UTC-7, Lorent Regoire wrote: >>>> mitchrae3323 wrote: >>>>> How can we ever contain anti matter when it would first annihilate? No >>>>> Tom. There is no anti matter. Science is wrong about an anti-world. >>>> It can't be wrong, >>> And why? >> Good question. > > Science can never be wrong? "It" is wrong all the time. "It" is also occasionally right. In science we call that falsification and progress, respectively. That has also enabled computers that, unfortunately, enable you to post nonsense here – but then again you can’t have everything, right? > That is hypocritical Tommy... It was your claim, not mine. > That could never be real. What I said is real. I guess next time you need a PET scan you will not be so quick to discard science. Mark my words. > Please show what is right about a black hole and how it can Only be right... BTDT. Your short attention span and dysfunctional long-term memory are not my problem. > Escape velocity has never happened to light... Not even wrong. > It doesn't slow down. For an observer outside the event horizon it does. > Light bubbles Light is not made out of bubbles. > can always get out of gravity Tommy. Wrong, Mitchy-baby. > Mitchell Raemsch; God creates gravity You are delusional. > You are a nerd like Stephen Hawking Thank you. > was the hard boiled Egg of all... This sentence lacks a subject, or the previous part lacks a comma to separate the relative clause from the rest. -- PointedEars Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 14:24 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <AoydnUtaDKZKvAnGnZ2dnUU7_81j4p2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #470895 |
On 9/7/18 4:54 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: > How can we ever contain anti matter when it would first annihilate? It only annihilates with matter. There are many experiments around the world that trap antimatter using EM fields. > No Tom. There is no anti matter. Science is wrong about an anti-world. You're wrong. The existence of anti-matter is SOLIDLY established. But it is not an "anti-world", it lives in the same world that we inhabit. Tom Roberts
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| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 13:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e5e08be5-056f-4455-9b82-64640893fe96@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #471020 |
On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 12:24:13 PM UTC-7, tjrob137 wrote: > On 9/7/18 4:54 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: > > How can we ever contain anti matter when it would first annihilate? > > It only annihilates with matter. There are many experiments around the > world that trap antimatter using EM fields. Where is it before it is trapped...? No. It is with matter before. It goes nowhere because it annihilates before forced out of matter... Mitchell Raemsch > > > No Tom. There is no anti matter. Science is wrong about an anti-world. > > You're wrong. The existence of anti-matter is SOLIDLY established. But > it is not an "anti-world", it lives in the same world that we inhabit. > > Tom Roberts
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| From | Lorent Regoire <euar@ewghwpq.gr> |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 10:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pn09vf$15ko$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #470889 |
Tom Roberts wrote: > On 9/7/18 11:44 AM, Haných Ltskáš wrote: >> How come those antiparticles are not absorbed and cancelled out >> immediately? > > They are moving too fast (i.e. have a kinetic energy that's too large). > For instance, for a positron to annihilate with an electron, >99% of the > time they first form positronium in an excited state, which cascades > down to its ground state (emitting photons), from which they annihilate. > That initial positronium cannot form if the positron has more than a few > eV of kinetic energy. Bubble chambers were used to observe particles > with many MeV or GeV of kinetic energy. This makes me think. Assuming the electron clouds are spinning at c (?) at the quantum level, is beaten by a lower macro speed (momentum). The particles touch each other and not annihilate. Interesting to build a model and investigate what happens interfacing the two. Pure multi-physics.
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| From | Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 14:25 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <AoydnUpaDKa0vwnGnZ2dnUU7_81j4p2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #470950 |
On 9/8/18 5:57 AM, Lorent Regoire wrote: > Tom Roberts wrote: > [...] > This makes me think. [...] Too bad you don't have the concepts or words to do so effectively. You need to STUDY. Just making stuff up and pretending it is true does nothing. Tom Roberts
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| From | Lorent Regoires <ewab@ewgvpq.gn> |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 21:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pn1dh7$v3n$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #471021 |
Tom Roberts wrote: > On 9/8/18 5:57 AM, Lorent Regoire wrote: >> Tom Roberts wrote: >> [...] >> This makes me think. [...] > > Too bad you don't have the concepts or words to do so effectively. You > need to STUDY. Just making stuff up and pretending it is true does > nothing. Too bad we can't see what you are lying at. You must feel hurt in your dignity.
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| From | Lorent Regoires <ewab@ewgvpq.gn> |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 21:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pn1eaq$109d$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #471021 |
Tom Roberts wrote: > On 9/8/18 5:57 AM, Lorent Regoire wrote: >> Tom Roberts wrote: >> [...] >> This makes me think. [...] > > Too bad you don't have the concepts or words to do so effectively. You > need to STUDY. Just making stuff up and pretending it is true does > nothing. What was it, wow, modelling multi-physics and interfacing the sub-domains. Not a wonder you've been hurt in your dignity. I should know better. Sorry many times.
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| From | "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-09 02:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fd91f34e-4194-4fab-a53c-412b3c41ddbe@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #470889 |
On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 4:25:24 PM UTC-5, tjrob137 wrote: > On 9/7/18 11:44 AM, Haných Ltskáš wrote: > > Tom Roberts wrote: > > > >> On 9/7/18 12:05 AM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: > >>> The Particles are far too small to form macro bubbles. > >>> and there are no nano bubbles. > >> > >> The liquid in a bubble chamber is superheated. That is, it is slightly > >> above its boiling temperature, right on the verge of boiling. This is > >> normally achieved by a sudden expansion of the volume of the liquid, > >> lowering its pressure and boiling temperature. When a charged particle > >> traverses the liquid, it deposits a small amount of energy as it passes, > >> and this is enough to induce local boiling, thus forming tiny bubbles > >> along its track. > > > > How come those antiparticles are not absorbed and cancelled out > > immediately? > > They are moving too fast (i.e. have a kinetic energy that's too large). > > For instance, for a positron to annihilate with an electron, >99% of the time > they first form positronium in an excited state, which cascades down to its > ground state (emitting photons), from which they annihilate. That initial > positronium cannot form if the positron has more than a few eV of kinetic > energy. Bubble chambers were used to observe particles with many MeV or GeV of > kinetic energy. > > Tom Roberts This Behavior in Electrons and Positrons Seems Logical & Plausible https://drive.google.com/file/d/13UFthYme7novMGRqZ5S96rMa_YkBGHzh/
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