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Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity?

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First post2018-06-04 16:31 -0700
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  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-04 16:31 -0700
    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-05 00:16 -0400
      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-05 08:12 -0700
        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 16:23 +0000
          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-05 13:56 -0700
            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 22:32 +0000
            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-05 19:12 -0400
              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 02:48 +0000
                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-06 06:10 -0700
              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-06 05:48 -0700
          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-05 14:19 -0700
        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 10:24 -0700
          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 18:00 +0000
            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-05 11:04 -0700
            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-05 15:25 -0400
          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-05 14:28 -0700
      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-05 08:22 -0700
        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-05 12:05 -0400
          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-05 14:12 -0700
            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-05 19:10 -0400
              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-06 05:38 -0700
                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 12:45 +0000
                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-06 06:08 -0700
                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 14:00 +0000
                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-06 14:07 -0700
                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-06 17:22 -0400
                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-07 07:58 -0700
                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 21:34 +0000
                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-07 07:40 -0700
                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 13:49 -0700
                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 21:27 +0000
                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-08 08:39 -0700
                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 12:45 +0000
                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-06 06:17 -0700
                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 14:30 +0000
                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-06 14:33 -0700
                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 21:38 +0000
                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-07 07:26 -0700
                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 16:08 +0000
                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-07 10:02 -0700
                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 17:51 +0000
                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 13:57 -0700
                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 16:59 -0700
                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-07 06:52 -0700
                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 13:38 -0700
                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-08 06:38 -0700
                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:46 +0000
                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-08 07:22 -0700
                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 16:50 +0000
                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Zandra Sobczak <acako@raswa.bo> - 2018-06-08 16:56 +0000
                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-08 14:21 -0700
                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 22:31 +0000
                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-09 05:17 -0700
                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 13:47 +0000
                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-09 08:00 -0700
                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 16:39 +0000
                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-10 06:12 -0700
                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-10 09:46 -0400
                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-10 07:32 -0700
                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 15:59 +0000
                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-10 09:49 -0700
                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 19:18 +0000
                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-11 04:52 -0700
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 05:01 -0700
                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 18:40 -0700
                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-10 14:04 -0400
                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-10 13:58 -0700
                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 21:19 +0000
                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-11 08:33 -0700
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 08:48 -0700
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 16:36 +0000
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-12 08:26 -0700
                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-12 12:26 -0400
                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 10:28 -0700
                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-12 12:12 -0700
                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 12:58 -0700
                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 15:12 -0700
                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-06-13 11:11 -0500
                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-12 17:46 -0700
                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-14 22:41 -0700
                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-15 04:31 -0700
                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 14:31 +0000
                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-15 08:37 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 16:13 +0000
                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-13 07:14 -0700
                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 08:52 -0700
                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-13 12:27 -0700
                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 13:38 -0700
                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Pasquale Broman <lqs@basq.ce> - 2018-06-13 20:43 +0000
                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 13:57 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Pasquale Broman <lqs@basq.ce> - 2018-06-13 21:26 +0000
                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-14 13:28 -0700
                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-14 13:45 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-14 18:18 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 14:31 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-15 08:32 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 15:45 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 09:55 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 14:41 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 14:50 -0700
                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-14 18:28 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-14 19:15 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-14 22:46 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-15 04:30 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 05:12 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-15 05:41 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 09:39 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 19:13 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 19:16 -0700
                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 09:43 -0700
                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-14 05:31 -0700
                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-14 11:37 -0700
                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-14 11:56 -0700
                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 09:40 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-15 13:27 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 15:03 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-16 05:40 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-16 07:53 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-16 13:18 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-16 17:08 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-16 18:34 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 02:08 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-17 06:36 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-17 15:44 +0200
                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-17 09:04 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-17 18:16 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-17 13:33 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-17 16:46 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-17 14:23 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-18 09:11 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-06-18 09:32 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Zprávn Udoucih <zpnvn@nwinst.ce> - 2018-06-18 17:26 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 17:59 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-18 14:04 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 18:09 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-18 14:58 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 22:43 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-18 22:47 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-20 08:10 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 16:10 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-20 12:12 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-20 13:41 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 13:56 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-20 17:18 -0400
                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 14:57 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-21 10:42 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 21:43 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 21:48 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 09:31 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 05:46 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-18 09:02 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 09:17 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-17 17:21 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 07:30 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Zprávn Udoucih <zpnvn@nwinst.ce> - 2018-06-17 14:40 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 17:59 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Zprávn Udoucih <zpnvn@nwinst.ce> - 2018-06-18 11:39 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-18 09:08 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Zprávn Udoucih <zpnvn@nwinst.ce> - 2018-06-18 15:49 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-17 09:18 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-17 17:23 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 18:14 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-17 13:17 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-17 22:23 +0200
                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-18 06:55 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 15:44 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-18 08:57 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-18 17:39 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 17:59 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-18 11:57 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 12:27 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 20:48 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-20 07:05 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 14:26 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-20 13:09 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 13:38 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 21:08 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-20 18:14 -0400
                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 15:18 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-21 11:29 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-21 10:26 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 17:44 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-21 14:22 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 14:30 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 14:36 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-22 06:23 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 06:47 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-22 07:22 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 12:20 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-23 04:39 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 06:53 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 21:25 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-23 04:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-23 05:12 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-24 00:20 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 22:31 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 10:03 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 10:11 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-21 14:34 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 22:31 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 22:37 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 02:53 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 10:00 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 10:37 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 00:56 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 01:19 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 06:33 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 07:17 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 17:37 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-02 06:31 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 13:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-02 07:56 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 15:07 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 08:04 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 08:35 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 09:07 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 10:17 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 10:47 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 08:10 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 15:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 08:28 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 16:07 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-02 11:05 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 11:30 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-02 15:50 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 22:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 16:10 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-03 06:45 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-03 14:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-03 14:00 -0700
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-03 21:37 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 14:42 -0700
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 15:49 -0700
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-07 15:31 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 08:03 -0700
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 15:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 08:49 -0700
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-03 14:56 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 15:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-03 17:45 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 20:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-04 06:20 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-04 09:30 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-05 06:42 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 09:40 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-05 15:22 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-05 14:21 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-05 12:06 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-05 15:31 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-05 16:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-05 21:07 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-07 09:37 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-07 17:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 20:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-06 14:21 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 00:51 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-07 17:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-04 06:42 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-05 06:54 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 07:46 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-05 08:25 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 08:31 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 09:34 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 22:06 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-03 17:50 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 17:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 15:31 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 15:33 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 05:18 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 05:24 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-14 02:46 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 15:06 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 09:13 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-17 10:05 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 17:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 12:20 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 23:00 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 00:40 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 09:51 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 10:29 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 22:49 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 23:37 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 00:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 05:55 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 00:03 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 03:10 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 02:13 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 07:54 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 07:38 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 09:15 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-11 18:19 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-12 02:08 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 18:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 10:38 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-05 14:32 -0400
                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 05:57 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-06 15:41 -0400
                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 17:32 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 17:42 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 02:48 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 13:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 09:05 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 10:18 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-23 17:28 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 15:26 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 15:33 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 18:36 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 18:38 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 22:33 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 00:52 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-22 06:32 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 13:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-22 14:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 14:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-22 08:46 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 16:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-23 04:31 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 14:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 10:08 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-23 04:34 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-23 14:55 +0200
                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 06:48 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 14:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-06-24 17:50 +0200
                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-19 06:05 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-18 09:14 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Zprávn Udoucih <zpnvn@nwinst.ce> - 2018-06-18 16:28 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 17:59 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 22:47 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 18:10 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 17:49 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-16 13:12 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-17 06:26 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 13:33 +0000
                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 17:53 +0000
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-11 12:18 -0400
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-12 07:39 -0700
                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-12 12:16 -0400
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 16:30 +0000
                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-10 17:26 -0400
                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Zandra Sobczak <acako@raswa.bo> - 2018-06-10 21:31 +0000
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-10 17:47 -0400
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Zandra Sobczak <acako@raswa.bo> - 2018-06-10 21:51 +0000
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 18:56 -0700
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Zandra Sobczak <acako@raswa.bo> - 2018-06-12 18:44 +0000
                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-11 06:41 -0700
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-11 10:42 -0400
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-11 08:57 -0700
                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-11 18:04 +0200
                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-11 16:15 -0700
                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-12 01:47 +0200
                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-12 06:07 -0700
                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-12 15:10 +0200
                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-12 07:50 -0700
                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-12 18:20 +0200
                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 13:37 +0000
                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-11 12:37 -0400
                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-12 08:28 -0700
                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-12 12:19 -0400
                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 09:44 -0700
                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 14:50 -0700
                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 19:00 -0700
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 05:55 -0700
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-12 12:31 -0700
                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 13:05 -0700
                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-12 17:50 -0700
                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 18:39 -0700
                                                                          OT: programming languages in physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-06-13 12:07 -0500
                                                                            Re: OT: programming languages in physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 15:33 -0700
                                                                              Re: OT: programming languages in physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-06-14 11:24 -0500
                                                                                Re: OT: programming languages in physics Werner Ballard <db@ocowak.br> - 2018-06-14 16:47 +0000
                                                                                  Re: OT: programming languages in physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-14 22:02 +0200
                                                                                    Re: OT: programming languages in physics Werner Ballard <db@ocoak.bn> - 2018-06-14 20:43 +0000
                                                                                      Re: OT: programming languages in physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-14 23:18 +0200
                                                                                        Re: OT: programming languages in physics Werner Ballard <db@ocoak.bn> - 2018-06-14 22:11 +0000
                                                                                          Re: OT: programming languages in physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-15 00:32 +0200
                                                                                            Re: OT: programming languages in physics Werner Ballard <db@ocoak.bn> - 2018-06-15 14:40 +0000
                                                                                              Re: OT: programming languages in physics Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 09:51 -0700
                                                                                                Re: OT: programming languages in physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-16 12:40 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: OT: programming languages in physics Werner Ballard <db@ocoak.bn> - 2018-06-16 13:44 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: OT: programming languages in physics Zprávn Udoucih <zpnvn@nwinst.ce> - 2018-06-18 11:48 +0000
                                                                                                Re: OT: programming languages in physics Werner Ballard <db@ocoak.bn> - 2018-06-16 13:52 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: OT: programming languages in physics Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-16 15:59 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: OT: programming languages in physics Werner Ballard <db@ocoak.bn> - 2018-06-16 14:10 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: OT: programming languages in physics Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-16 13:00 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: OT: programming languages in physics Werner Ballard <db@ocoak.bn> - 2018-06-16 17:22 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: OT: programming languages in physics Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-17 03:31 +0200
                                                                                                      Re: OT: programming languages in physics Werner Ballard <db@ocoak.bn> - 2018-06-17 11:41 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: OT: programming languages in physics Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-18 09:05 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: OT: programming languages in physics Zprávn Udoucih <zpnvn@nwinst.ce> - 2018-06-18 15:56 +0000
                                                                                Re: OT: programming languages in physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-14 10:58 -0700
                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 18:24 -0700
                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 15:55 +0000
                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-10 09:51 -0700
                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 17:55 -0700
                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-18 19:25 +0200
                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-18 11:19 -0700
                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 11:38 -0700
                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-18 22:33 +0200
                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 14:27 -0700
                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-20 07:53 -0700
                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-20 12:03 -0400
                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-20 13:16 -0700
                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-20 17:42 -0400
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-21 11:16 -0700
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-06-22 10:50 +0200
                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 02:27 -0700
                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Zprávn Udoucih <zpnvn@nwinst.ce> - 2018-06-22 11:36 +0000
                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-22 13:57 +0000
                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-22 08:25 -0700
                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-06-22 22:56 +0200
                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-23 04:52 -0700
                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-24 00:10 +0000
                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-06-23 17:26 -0700
                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-06-24 18:19 +0200
                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-24 12:09 -0700
                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-06-25 19:22 +0200
                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-25 11:27 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-06-25 21:48 +0200
                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-26 06:08 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-06-27 20:40 +0200
                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-28 06:57 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-28 14:13 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 01:10 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-29 06:50 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 08:11 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-29 09:39 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 09:50 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-29 13:39 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 14:12 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-30 06:00 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 06:41 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-30 23:21 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-30 19:17 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-01 03:42 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-01 07:58 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-01 15:19 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 13:34 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-01 10:00 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 19:41 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-01 15:24 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-06-30 16:39 +0200
                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-06-30 17:16 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-30 16:03 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-02 18:46 +0200
                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-02 10:24 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 18:04 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-03 20:46 +0200
                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-06-25 19:40 +0200
                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-23 05:09 -0700
                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 16:10 +0000
                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-20 13:28 -0700
                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 13:39 -0700
                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 21:55 +0000
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-20 18:25 -0400
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 12:19 +0000
                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-21 12:45 -0400
                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 17:54 +0000
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 09:38 -0700
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 17:44 +0000
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-21 11:22 -0700
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 21:02 +0000
                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-22 06:59 -0700
                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 07:53 -0700
                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-22 08:49 -0700
                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 08:58 -0700
                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 16:12 +0000
                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-23 05:35 -0700
                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 14:33 +0000
                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-23 16:55 -0700
                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-24 00:35 +0000
                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 13:17 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-24 07:36 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 09:24 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 14:07 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-25 11:10 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 20:44 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-26 06:13 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-26 13:37 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-26 14:29 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-26 17:32 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 00:45 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-26 17:46 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 01:38 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-27 07:00 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 14:40 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-28 07:15 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-28 14:31 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-28 08:23 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-28 16:09 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-28 11:07 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-28 19:48 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-29 07:04 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 16:02 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-29 14:10 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 21:56 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 15:50 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-30 06:18 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 06:28 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-30 16:31 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 13:28 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 08:52 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-03 15:01 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 22:11 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-03 22:23 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 09:20 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-05 15:47 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 09:33 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 16:51 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 09:58 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-29 13:57 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 21:56 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-30 06:12 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 17:10 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 06:15 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-30 15:05 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 22:08 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-01 03:44 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 13:34 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-01 09:54 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-07-01 17:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 18:59 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 19:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-01 14:48 -0400
                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-24 00:24 +0000
                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 09:59 -0700
                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 10:42 -0700
                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-20 14:00 -0700
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 14:05 -0700
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 16:10 -0700
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-21 10:34 -0700
                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 14:19 -0700
                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-22 07:03 -0700
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-20 18:31 -0400
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 12:19 +0000
                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-21 12:49 -0400
                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 17:54 +0000
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-21 12:00 -0700
                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-20 13:50 -0700
                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 14:02 -0700
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-21 10:20 -0700
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 10:26 -0700
                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-21 14:17 -0700
                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 14:37 -0700
                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-09 17:26 +0200
                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-10 06:45 -0700
                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-10 19:22 +0200
                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-10 13:44 -0700
                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 18:22 -0700
                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:30 -0700
                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-07 11:09 -0400
                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-07 09:44 -0700
                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Zandra Sobczak <acako@raswa.bo> - 2018-06-07 16:49 +0000
                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-07 13:23 -0400
                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-08 06:59 -0700
                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-08 18:40 +0200
                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-08 13:26 -0700
                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:36 -0700
                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-09 05:45 -0700
                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-09 17:22 +0200
                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-10 06:22 -0700
                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-06 18:01 +0000
    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 05:51 -0700
    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 12:55 +0000
      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-05 08:43 -0700

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#461539

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-06-17 17:23 +0000
Message-ID<pg65dp$tdn$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#461535
kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 10:30:51 AM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:

>> > > The relevant phenomena are
>> > > 1. Conservation of angular momentum
>> > > 2. Conservation of energy

>> > These concepts are not relevant to our discussion.

>> Are you stating that these concepts are INVALID??? Since any discussion
>> of orbital mechanics begins with those concepts as given facts.

>No I am saying that conservation  of angular momentum is valid only there 
>is no applied force. same with conservation of energy.

Conservation of angular momentum is ALWAYS valid. It is essentially a law 
of physics, it has never been observed to be violated. Same with 
conservation of energy.

In a closed system, the total angular momentum and energy never changes.  
This is regardless of internal forces. The earth-moon system is a closed
system, so the total angular momentum and energy cannot change.

>In our discussion there is a constant attractive gravitational force  
>between the earth and the moon, so these concepts are not valid in our 
>discussion.

You don't get to invent new rules to try to salvage your own failed
hypothesis. Conservation of angular momentum and energy ALWAYS applies.

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#461542

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-17 18:14 +0000
Message-ID<pg68el$171g$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#461535
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 10:30:51 AM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
>> On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 8:36:04 AM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
>>> On Saturday, June 16, 2018 at 10:53:53 AM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, June 16, 2018 at 7:40:17 AM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
>> 
>>>>> So what caused the moon to have sideway motion to begin with 4 billion years ago?
>>>>> Why is this sideway motion is maintain for 4 billion years when
>>>>> attractive gravity is constantly pulling it (he moon) toward the center of the earth? 
>>>>> Don’t you think that there exists a repulsive effect to cancel out
>>>>> some of the attractive force of gravity and that’s why the moon is
>>>>> able to maintain a stable orbit around the earth?
>>>> 
>>>> The relevant phenomena are 
>>>> 1. Conservation of angular momentum
>>>> 2. Conservation of energy
>>> 
>>> These concepts are not relevant to our discussion.
>> 
>> Are you stating that these concepts are INVALID??? Since any discussion 
>> of orbital mechanics begins with those concepts as given facts.
> 
> No I am saying that conservation  of angular momentum is valid only there
> is no applied force. same with conservation of energy.

That is also wrong. Every time you open your mouth you say something in
conflict with first year elementary physics. 

> In our discussion there is a constant attractive gravitational force 
> between the earth and the moon, so these concepts are not valid in our discussion.
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#461549

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-06-17 13:17 -0700
Message-ID<41333e91-8062-4c90-890c-6fbcebbf7716@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#461542
On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 2:14:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 10:30:51 AM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> >> On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 8:36:04 AM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, June 16, 2018 at 10:53:53 AM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> >>>> On Saturday, June 16, 2018 at 7:40:17 AM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> >> 
> >>>>> So what caused the moon to have sideway motion to begin with 4 billion years ago?
> >>>>> Why is this sideway motion is maintain for 4 billion years when
> >>>>> attractive gravity is constantly pulling it (he moon) toward the center of the earth? 
> >>>>> Don’t you think that there exists a repulsive effect to cancel out
> >>>>> some of the attractive force of gravity and that’s why the moon is
> >>>>> able to maintain a stable orbit around the earth?
> >>>> 
> >>>> The relevant phenomena are 
> >>>> 1. Conservation of angular momentum
> >>>> 2. Conservation of energy
> >>> 
> >>> These concepts are not relevant to our discussion.
> >> 
> >> Are you stating that these concepts are INVALID??? Since any discussion 
> >> of orbital mechanics begins with those concepts as given facts.
> > 
> > No I am saying that conservation  of angular momentum is valid only there
> > is no applied force. same with conservation of energy.
> 
> That is also wrong. Every time you open your mouth you say something in
> conflict with first year elementary physics. 

So say an uneducated moron woodworker.

> 
> > In our discussion there is a constant attractive gravitational force 
> > between the earth and the moon, so these concepts are not valid in our discussion.

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#461551

FromPython <python@python.invalid>
Date2018-06-17 22:23 +0200
Message-ID<5b26c32e$0$20311$426a34cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#461549
kenseto wrote:
> On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 2:14:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
...
>> That is also wrong. Every time you open your mouth you say something in
>> conflict with first year elementary physics.
> 
> So say an uneducated moron woodworker.

Likely not uneducated at all, as he is absolutely right, Mr Seto.

You, on the other side, have shown that you are 100% uneducated in
the matters of basic math and physics, remember your post below, Mr
Seto?

Ken Seto wrote:
> If I have the following term in my equation:
>    Sqrt*(Faa^2-Fab^2)
>
> If Fab^2 is larger than Faa^2 will the minus sign carries
> with it? In other words, if Faa^2 is equal to 4 and Fab^2 is
> equal to 25 will this term becomes sqrt (-20) and thus becomes -4.472?
>
> Thanks for your help. 

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#461606

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-06-18 06:55 -0700
Message-ID<395f68e6-8e6f-4dd9-9554-c1a30a53a325@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#461551
On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 4:23:12 PM UTC-4, Python wrote:
> kenseto wrote:
> > On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 2:14:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> ...
> >> That is also wrong. Every time you open your mouth you say something in
> >> conflict with first year elementary physics.
> > 
> > So say an uneducated moron woodworker.
> 
> Likely not uneducated at all, as he is absolutely right, Mr Seto.
> 
> You, on the other side, have shown that you are 100% uneducated in
> the matters of basic math and physics, remember your post below, Mr
> Seto?

Newton’s calculations assumed a single attractive force of gravity and a circular orbit of the moon (the same radius for all locations of the moon). The fact that his calculations agree with observation is irrelevant. He failed to explain the cause why a single attractive force of gravity alone can maintain a stable orbit for the moon when our experience and experiments say it can’t. 

That’s why I invented DTG. DTG says that there are two forces acting on the moon:
1. An attractive EM force of gravity derived from the fact that the earth and the moon are expanding in the same direction in the E-Matrix as the universe expands.
2. A repulsive tangential force due to that the earth and the moon are confined to the divergent structure of the E-Matrix.
3. The competition of these opposing forces enables the moon maintains a stable orbit around the earth.

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#461616

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-18 15:44 +0000
Message-ID<pg8k1k$13p2$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#461606
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 4:23:12 PM UTC-4, Python wrote:
>> kenseto wrote:
>>> On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 2:14:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> ...
>>>> That is also wrong. Every time you open your mouth you say something in
>>>> conflict with first year elementary physics.
>>> 
>>> So say an uneducated moron woodworker.
>> 
>> Likely not uneducated at all, as he is absolutely right, Mr Seto.
>> 
>> You, on the other side, have shown that you are 100% uneducated in
>> the matters of basic math and physics, remember your post below, Mr
>> Seto?
> 
> Newton’s calculations assumed a single attractive force of gravity and a
> circular orbit of the moon (the same radius for all locations of the
> moon). The fact that his calculations agree with observation is irrelevant. 

And with that “irrelevant” comment you continue to show you have NO idea
how science works. 

All you care about is what you WANT science to do, rather than what it
really does. 

> He failed to explain the cause why a single attractive force of gravity
> alone can maintain a stable orbit for the moon when our experience and
> experiments say it can’t. 

Your experience with a ball and a string has air friction that slows the
ball down, air friction that is NOT PRESENT with planetary orbits. 

Idiot. 

> 
> That’s why I invented DTG. DTG says that there are two forces acting on the moon:
> 1. An attractive EM force of gravity derived from the fact that the earth
> and the moon are expanding in the same direction in the E-Matrix as the universe expands.
> 2. A repulsive tangential force due to that the earth and the moon are
> confined to the divergent structure of the E-Matrix.
> 3. The competition of these opposing forces enables the moon maintains a
> stable orbit around the earth.
> 
> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#461620

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-06-18 08:57 -0700
Message-ID<739a6598-b90d-4c1d-8e98-5b4c72af3615@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#461616
On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 11:44:55 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 4:23:12 PM UTC-4, Python wrote:
> >> kenseto wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 2:14:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> ...
> >>>> That is also wrong. Every time you open your mouth you say something in
> >>>> conflict with first year elementary physics.
> >>> 
> >>> So say an uneducated moron woodworker.
> >> 
> >> Likely not uneducated at all, as he is absolutely right, Mr Seto.
> >> 
> >> You, on the other side, have shown that you are 100% uneducated in
> >> the matters of basic math and physics, remember your post below, Mr
> >> Seto?
> > 
> > Newton’s calculations assumed a single attractive force of gravity and a
> > circular orbit of the moon (the same radius for all locations of the
> > moon). The fact that his calculations agree with observation is irrelevant. 
> 
> And with that “irrelevant” comment you continue to show you have NO idea
> how science works. 

Idiot....You have no idea how a single attractive force works. The source of a single attractive force can’t make objects orbit around it. Gravity in Newton’s equation is not a single force, it is a composite force. It is  time you bunch of idiot fanatics to learn some new ideas.

> 
> All you care about is what you WANT science to do, rather than what it
> really does. 
> 
> > He failed to explain the cause why a single attractive force of gravity
> > alone can maintain a stable orbit for the moon when our experience and
> > experiments say it can’t. 
> 
> Your experience with a ball and a string has air friction that slows the
> ball down, air friction that is NOT PRESENT with planetary orbits. 

No moron, a single attractive force cannot make the moon to follow a stable orbiting motion.

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#461631

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-06-18 17:39 +0000
Message-ID<pg8qo2$b2c$5@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#461620
kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 11:44:55 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>> > On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 4:23:12 PM UTC-4, Python wrote:
>> >> kenseto wrote:

>> >>> So say an uneducated moron woodworker.

So Ken, how does it feel to know that you are less knowledgeable than
"an uneducated moron woodworker"?

>> >> Likely not uneducated at all, as he is absolutely right, Mr Seto.

>> >> You, on the other side, have shown that you are 100% uneducated in
>> >> the matters of basic math and physics, remember your post below, Mr
>> >> Seto?

>> > Newton's calculations assumed a single attractive force of gravity and a
>> > circular orbit of the moon (the same radius for all locations of the
>> > moon). The fact that his calculations agree with observation is irrelevant.

>> And with that "irrelevant" comment you continue to show you have NO idea
>> how science works.

>Idiot....You have no idea how a single attractive force works. The source
>of a single attractive force can't make objects orbit around it.

Assertion is not evidence, Ken. And besides, Newton PROVED that a single 
attractive force CAN make objects orbit.

Go ahead, prove Newton wrong. Or admit that YOU are wrong.

>Gravity in Newton's equation is not a single force,

It is. The only force Newton used was the attraction to the central 
object.

> it is a composite force.

Assertion is not evidence.

> It is  time you bunch of idiot fanatics to learn some new ideas.

New ideas are only useful if they work. You have already shown that all
of your "new ideas" are complete failures.

>> Your experience with a ball and a string has air friction that slows the
>> ball down, air friction that is NOT PRESENT with planetary orbits.

>No moron, a single attractive force cannot make the moon to follow a stable
>orbiting motion.

Yet Newton PROVED it does. Your assertions don't change that.
Go ahead, prove Newton wrong and I'll personally pay your airfare to
Stockholm to collect your Nobel Prize.

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#461632

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-18 17:59 +0000
Message-ID<pg8rue$1j7g$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#461620
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 11:44:55 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 4:23:12 PM UTC-4, Python wrote:
>>>> kenseto wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 2:14:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>>> That is also wrong. Every time you open your mouth you say something in
>>>>>> conflict with first year elementary physics.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So say an uneducated moron woodworker.
>>>> 
>>>> Likely not uneducated at all, as he is absolutely right, Mr Seto.
>>>> 
>>>> You, on the other side, have shown that you are 100% uneducated in
>>>> the matters of basic math and physics, remember your post below, Mr
>>>> Seto?
>>> 
>>> Newton’s calculations assumed a single attractive force of gravity and a
>>> circular orbit of the moon (the same radius for all locations of the
>>> moon). The fact that his calculations agree with observation is irrelevant. 
>> 
>> And with that “irrelevant” comment you continue to show you have NO idea
>> how science works. 
> 
> Idiot....You have no idea how a single attractive force works. The source
> of a single attractive force can’t make objects orbit around it. 

Why, yes, Ken, it can.  Take any two objects that are just passing each
other with no forces acting on either one of them, and then throw a switch
to turn on an attractive force between them — just that one attractive
force — and they will now orbit each other. 

I get that you don’t understand it. It is nonetheless true whether you
believe it or not. 

> Gravity in Newton’s equation is not a single force, it is a composite
> force. It is  time you bunch of idiot fanatics to learn some new ideas.

New ideas that come from someone COMPLETELY UNEDUCATED in physics are
worthless. That’s why your book has no sales. 

> 
>> 
>> All you care about is what you WANT science to do, rather than what it
>> really does. 
>> 
>>> He failed to explain the cause why a single attractive force of gravity
>>> alone can maintain a stable orbit for the moon when our experience and
>>> experiments say it can’t. 
>> 
>> Your experience with a ball and a string has air friction that slows the
>> ball down, air friction that is NOT PRESENT with planetary orbits. 
> 
> No moron, a single attractive force cannot make the moon to follow a
> stable orbiting motion.
> 

Yes it can. Newton proved that. So show his proof is wrong. Take any case
without air friction and do the algebra. If you can’t, your assertion is
worthless. 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#461641

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-06-18 11:57 -0700
Message-ID<b4fe05e8-8625-4879-9b58-849e9904477d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#461632
On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 1:59:46 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 11:44:55 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 4:23:12 PM UTC-4, Python wrote:
> >>>> kenseto wrote:
> >>>>> On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 2:14:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> ...
> >>>>>> That is also wrong. Every time you open your mouth you say something in
> >>>>>> conflict with first year elementary physics.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> So say an uneducated moron woodworker.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Likely not uneducated at all, as he is absolutely right, Mr Seto.
> >>>> 
> >>>> You, on the other side, have shown that you are 100% uneducated in
> >>>> the matters of basic math and physics, remember your post below, Mr
> >>>> Seto?
> >>> 
> >>> Newton’s calculations assumed a single attractive force of gravity and a
> >>> circular orbit of the moon (the same radius for all locations of the
> >>> moon). The fact that his calculations agree with observation is irrelevant. 
> >> 
> >> And with that “irrelevant” comment you continue to show you have NO idea
> >> how science works. 
> > 
> > Idiot....You have no idea how a single attractive force works. The source
> > of a single attractive force can’t make objects orbit around it. 
> 
> Why, yes, Ken, it can.  Take any two objects that are just passing each
> other with no forces acting on either one of them, and then throw a switch
> to turn on an attractive force between them — just that one attractive
> force — and they will now orbit each other. 

Hey uneducated moron woodworker, I have a magnet and an iron ball I can’t make the ball orbiting the magnet. It just crash into the magnet as predicted. If there is a circular groove around the magnet and I applied a high force to make the ball follow the circular groove then the ball will maintain in orbiting motion around the magnet but after a while the ball will still fall into the magnet. This is similar to a roulette wheel...the ball will not maintain a circular motion forever.

Making up stuff as your argument doesn’t work. Gee you are so fucking stupid.....no wonder you are just a moron woodworker. 

> 
> I get that you don’t understand it. It is nonetheless true whether you
> believe it or not. 
> 
> > Gravity in Newton’s equation is not a single force, it is a composite
> > force. It is  time you bunch of idiot fanatics to learn some new ideas.
> 
> New ideas that come from someone COMPLETELY UNEDUCATED in physics are
> worthless. That’s why your book has no sales. 
> so fucking stupid.....no wonder you are just a m
> >oron woodworker.
> >> 
> >> All you care about is what you WANT science to do, rather than what it
> >> really does. 
> >> 
> >>> He failed to explain the cause why a single attractive force of gravity
> >>> alone can maintain a stable orbit for the moon when our experience and
> >>> experiments say it can’t. 
> >> 
> >> Your experience with a ball and a string has air friction that slows the
> >> ball down, air friction that is NOT PRESENT with planetary orbits. 
> > 
> > No moron, a single attractive force cannot make the moon to follow a
> > stable orbiting motion.
> > 
> 
> Yes it can. Newton proved that. So show his proof is wrong. Take any case
> without air friction and do the algebra. If you can’t, your assertion is
> worthless. 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#461643

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-18 12:27 -0700
Message-ID<3b465595-6805-4c46-a8b2-7188029bbc7d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#461641
On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 1:57:13 PM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:

> Hey uneducated moron woodworker, I have a magnet and an iron ball I can’t make the ball orbiting the magnet. It just crash into the magnet as predicted. If there is a circular groove around the magnet and I applied a high force to make the ball follow the circular groove then the ball will maintain in orbiting motion around the magnet but after a while the ball will still fall into the magnet. This is similar to a roulette wheel...the ball will not maintain a circular motion forever.
> 
> Making up stuff as your argument doesn’t work. Gee you are so fucking stupid.....no wonder you are just a moron woodworker. 

A magnet is a grossly complex system. For one thing, at long distance, the
dipole force follows an inverse cubed relationship, so the orbit will not 
be closed. At close range, the complexity of the field would make it
extremely difficult to find an orbit that will not crash into a finite-sized
magnet. 

However, if you had a dipole comprising two separated point-sized monopoles
and a point-sized magnetic particle, then, unless you specifically aimed
the particle at one of the poles, that particle should orbit the dipole
forever. Conservation laws apply. 

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#461648

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-18 20:48 +0000
Message-ID<pg95qi$5kv$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#461641
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 1:59:46 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 11:44:55 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 4:23:12 PM UTC-4, Python wrote:
>>>>>> kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 2:14:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> That is also wrong. Every time you open your mouth you say something in
>>>>>>>> conflict with first year elementary physics.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So say an uneducated moron woodworker.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Likely not uneducated at all, as he is absolutely right, Mr Seto.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You, on the other side, have shown that you are 100% uneducated in
>>>>>> the matters of basic math and physics, remember your post below, Mr
>>>>>> Seto?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Newton’s calculations assumed a single attractive force of gravity and a
>>>>> circular orbit of the moon (the same radius for all locations of the
>>>>> moon). The fact that his calculations agree with observation is irrelevant. 
>>>> 
>>>> And with that “irrelevant” comment you continue to show you have NO idea
>>>> how science works. 
>>> 
>>> Idiot....You have no idea how a single attractive force works. The source
>>> of a single attractive force can’t make objects orbit around it. 
>> 
>> Why, yes, Ken, it can.  Take any two objects that are just passing each
>> other with no forces acting on either one of them, and then throw a switch
>> to turn on an attractive force between them — just that one attractive
>> force — and they will now orbit each other. 
> 
> Hey uneducated moron woodworker, I have a magnet and an iron ball I can’t
> make the ball orbiting the magnet. It just crash into the magnet as predicted. 

Did you make them traveling past each other as I specified, or did you just
plop them down in the table? What’s wrong with you? Can you not follow
experimental procedures???

> If there is a circular groove around the magnet and I applied a high
> force to make the ball follow the circular groove then the ball will
> maintain in orbiting motion around the magnet but after a while the ball
> will still fall into the magnet. This is similar to a roulette
> wheel...the ball will not maintain a circular motion forever.

Idiot! Ball on string eventually slows down because of air friction.
Roulette ball eventually slows down because of surface friction. These are
sources of friction that are NOT THERE for planetary orbits. Do the test in
an experiment where friction is removed and then you will see. 

> 
> Making up stuff as your argument doesn’t work. Gee you are so fucking
> stupid.....no wonder you are just a moron woodworker. 
> 
>> 
>> I get that you don’t understand it. It is nonetheless true whether you
>> believe it or not. 
>> 
>>> Gravity in Newton’s equation is not a single force, it is a composite
>>> force. It is  time you bunch of idiot fanatics to learn some new ideas.
>> 
>> New ideas that come from someone COMPLETELY UNEDUCATED in physics are
>> worthless. That’s why your book has no sales. 
>> so fucking stupid.....no wonder you are just a m
>>> oron woodworker.
>>>> 
>>>> All you care about is what you WANT science to do, rather than what it
>>>> really does. 
>>>> 
>>>>> He failed to explain the cause why a single attractive force of gravity
>>>>> alone can maintain a stable orbit for the moon when our experience and
>>>>> experiments say it can’t. 
>>>> 
>>>> Your experience with a ball and a string has air friction that slows the
>>>> ball down, air friction that is NOT PRESENT with planetary orbits. 
>>> 
>>> No moron, a single attractive force cannot make the moon to follow a
>>> stable orbiting motion.
>>> 
>> 
>> Yes it can. Newton proved that. So show his proof is wrong. Take any case
>> without air friction and do the algebra. If you can’t, your assertion is
>> worthless. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#461822

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-06-20 07:05 -0700
Message-ID<49f4f9c4-3d88-4dfe-858e-c539c2da0ed2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#461648
On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 4:48:22 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 1:59:46 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>> On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 11:44:55 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>> On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 4:23:12 PM UTC-4, Python wrote:
> >>>>>> kenseto wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 2:14:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>> That is also wrong. Every time you open your mouth you say something in
> >>>>>>>> conflict with first year elementary physics.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> So say an uneducated moron woodworker.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Likely not uneducated at all, as he is absolutely right, Mr Seto.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> You, on the other side, have shown that you are 100% uneducated in
> >>>>>> the matters of basic math and physics, remember your post below, Mr
> >>>>>> Seto?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Newton’s calculations assumed a single attractive force of gravity and a
> >>>>> circular orbit of the moon (the same radius for all locations of the
> >>>>> moon). The fact that his calculations agree with observation is irrelevant. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> And with that “irrelevant” comment you continue to show you have NO idea
> >>>> how science works. 
> >>> 
> >>> Idiot....You have no idea how a single attractive force works. The source
> >>> of a single attractive force can’t make objects orbit around it. 
> >> 
> >> Why, yes, Ken, it can.  Take any two objects that are just passing each
> >> other with no forces acting on either one of them, and then throw a switch
> >> to turn on an attractive force between them — just that one attractive
> >> force — and they will now orbit each other. 
> > 
> > Hey uneducated moron woodworker, I have a magnet and an iron ball I can’t
> > make the ball orbiting the magnet. It just crash into the magnet as predicted. 
> 
> Did you make them traveling past each other as I specified, or did you just
> plop them down in the table? What’s wrong with you? Can you not follow
> experimental procedures???

Yes I did....the best I can do is to get half of an orbit before it crash into the magnet. It seems that you are a lying sack of shit.

> 
> > If there is a circular groove around the magnet and I applied a high
> > force to make the ball follow the circular groove then the ball will
> > maintain in orbiting motion around the magnet but after a while the ball
> > will still fall into the magnet. This is similar to a roulette
> > wheel...the ball will not maintain a circular motion forever.
> 
> Idiot! Ball on string eventually slows down because of air friction.
> Roulette ball eventually slows down because of surface friction. These are
> sources of friction that are NOT THERE for planetary orbits. Do the test in
> an experiment where friction is removed and then you will see. 

Why don’t you do it and let us know?

> 
> > 
> > Making up stuff as your argument doesn’t work. Gee you are so fucking
> > stupid.....no wonder you are ...

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#461824

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-20 14:26 +0000
Message-ID<pgdo7b$1nau$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#461822
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 4:48:22 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 1:59:46 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 11:44:55 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 4:23:12 PM UTC-4, Python wrote:
>>>>>>>> kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 2:14:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> That is also wrong. Every time you open your mouth you say something in
>>>>>>>>>> conflict with first year elementary physics.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> So say an uneducated moron woodworker.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Likely not uneducated at all, as he is absolutely right, Mr Seto.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You, on the other side, have shown that you are 100% uneducated in
>>>>>>>> the matters of basic math and physics, remember your post below, Mr
>>>>>>>> Seto?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Newton’s calculations assumed a single attractive force of gravity and a
>>>>>>> circular orbit of the moon (the same radius for all locations of the
>>>>>>> moon). The fact that his calculations agree with observation is irrelevant. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And with that “irrelevant” comment you continue to show you have NO idea
>>>>>> how science works. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Idiot....You have no idea how a single attractive force works. The source
>>>>> of a single attractive force can’t make objects orbit around it. 
>>>> 
>>>> Why, yes, Ken, it can.  Take any two objects that are just passing each
>>>> other with no forces acting on either one of them, and then throw a switch
>>>> to turn on an attractive force between them — just that one attractive
>>>> force — and they will now orbit each other. 
>>> 
>>> Hey uneducated moron woodworker, I have a magnet and an iron ball I can’t
>>> make the ball orbiting the magnet. It just crash into the magnet as predicted. 
>> 
>> Did you make them traveling past each other as I specified, or did you just
>> plop them down in the table? What’s wrong with you? Can you not follow
>> experimental procedures???
> 
> Yes I did....the best I can do is to get half of an orbit before it crash
> into the magnet. It seems that you are a lying sack of shit.

Notice that you have not removed friction between the magnet and the table,
or between the ball and the table. What did I tell you about being careful
to remove friction in your experimental tests. 

Secondly, to get a circular orbit, the velocity of the ball has to be made
not too small and not too large. This is how the moon’s orbit was set up.
The fragments that had speeds less or more than that fell to earth as
meteors or escaped orbit. You didn’t tune the velocity of the balk
correctly because you don’t know the physics and do you didn’t know it was
important. 

> 
>> 
>>> If there is a circular groove around the magnet and I applied a high
>>> force to make the ball follow the circular groove then the ball will
>>> maintain in orbiting motion around the magnet but after a while the ball
>>> will still fall into the magnet. This is similar to a roulette
>>> wheel...the ball will not maintain a circular motion forever.
>> 
>> Idiot! Ball on string eventually slows down because of air friction.
>> Roulette ball eventually slows down because of surface friction. These are
>> sources of friction that are NOT THERE for planetary orbits. Do the test in
>> an experiment where friction is removed and then you will see. 
> 
> Why don’t you do it and let us know?

It’s been done by others and documented in things you don’t read. Since you
don’t read, you’ll have to do it yourself. If simple experimental design is
beyond you, then give up on physics. Everyone - and I mean everyone - who
has ever made a sizable contribution to physics has mastered these
experimental basics. 

> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Making up stuff as your argument doesn’t work. Gee you are so fucking
>>> stupid.....no wonder you are ...
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#461896

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-06-20 13:09 -0700
Message-ID<8d1025fa-879a-4fae-ab5c-fe84c0e0a7eb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#461824
On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 10:26:54 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 4:48:22 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>> On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 1:59:46 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>> On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 11:44:55 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 4:23:12 PM UTC-4, Python wrote:
> >>>>>>>> kenseto wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 2:14:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>> That is also wrong. Every time you open your mouth you say something in
> >>>>>>>>>> conflict with first year elementary physics.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> So say an uneducated moron woodworker.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Likely not uneducated at all, as he is absolutely right, Mr Seto.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> You, on the other side, have shown that you are 100% uneducated in
> >>>>>>>> the matters of basic math and physics, remember your post below, Mr
> >>>>>>>> Seto?
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Newton’s calculations assumed a single attractive force of gravity and a
> >>>>>>> circular orbit of the moon (the same radius for all locations of the
> >>>>>>> moon). The fact that his calculations agree with observation is irrelevant. 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> And with that “irrelevant” comment you continue to show you have NO idea
> >>>>>> how science works. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Idiot....You have no idea how a single attractive force works. The source
> >>>>> of a single attractive force can’t make objects orbit around it. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Why, yes, Ken, it can.  Take any two objects that are just passing each
> >>>> other with no forces acting on either one of them, and then throw a switch
> >>>> to turn on an attractive force between them — just that one attractive
> >>>> force — and they will now orbit each other. 
> >>> 
> >>> Hey uneducated moron woodworker, I have a magnet and an iron ball I can’t
> >>> make the ball orbiting the magnet. It just crash into the magnet as predicted. 
> >> 
> >> Did you make them traveling past each other as I specified, or did you just
> >> plop them down in the table? What’s wrong with you? Can you not follow
> >> experimental procedures???
> > 
> > Yes I did....the best I can do is to get half of an orbit before it crash
> > into the magnet. It seems that you are a lying sack of shit.
> 
> Notice that you have not removed friction between the magnet and the table,
> or between the ball and the table. What did I tell you about being careful
> to remove friction in your experimental tests. 
> 
> Secondly, to get a circular orbit, the velocity of the ball has to be made
> not too small and not too large. This is how the moon’s orbit w...

I don’t believe it and since It is your assertion.....why don’t you do it and make a video of it and show us.

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#461903

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-20 13:38 -0700
Message-ID<304c81e2-6a0a-41f5-b3f0-654466965950@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#461896
On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 3:09:24 PM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 10:26:54 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:

> > Notice that you have not removed friction between the magnet and the table,
> > or between the ball and the table. What did I tell you about being careful
> > to remove friction in your experimental tests. 
> > 
> > Secondly, to get a circular orbit, the velocity of the ball has to be made
> > not too small and not too large. This is how the moon’s orbit w...
> 
> I don’t believe it and since It is your assertion.....why don’t you do it and make a video of it and show us.

Excuse me. ***YOU*** are the one claiming that all physics since Newton
is based on false premises. It is ***YOU*** who must set up properly 
***PROPERLY CONTROLLED EXPERIMENTS IN FRICTIONLESS CONDITIONS*** 
demonstrating the impossibility of achieving repetitive orbits regardless
of initial conditions.

I would advise you to submit proposals to have your experiments performed 
outside the ISS.

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#461914

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-20 21:08 +0000
Message-ID<pgefo0$113k$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#461896
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 10:26:54 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 4:48:22 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 1:59:46 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 11:44:55 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 4:23:12 PM UTC-4, Python wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 2:14:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> That is also wrong. Every time you open your mouth you say something in
>>>>>>>>>>>> conflict with first year elementary physics.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> So say an uneducated moron woodworker.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Likely not uneducated at all, as he is absolutely right, Mr Seto.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> You, on the other side, have shown that you are 100% uneducated in
>>>>>>>>>> the matters of basic math and physics, remember your post below, Mr
>>>>>>>>>> Seto?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Newton’s calculations assumed a single attractive force of gravity and a
>>>>>>>>> circular orbit of the moon (the same radius for all locations of the
>>>>>>>>> moon). The fact that his calculations agree with observation is irrelevant. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> And with that “irrelevant” comment you continue to show you have NO idea
>>>>>>>> how science works. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Idiot....You have no idea how a single attractive force works. The source
>>>>>>> of a single attractive force can’t make objects orbit around it. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Why, yes, Ken, it can.  Take any two objects that are just passing each
>>>>>> other with no forces acting on either one of them, and then throw a switch
>>>>>> to turn on an attractive force between them — just that one attractive
>>>>>> force — and they will now orbit each other. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hey uneducated moron woodworker, I have a magnet and an iron ball I can’t
>>>>> make the ball orbiting the magnet. It just crash into the magnet as predicted. 
>>>> 
>>>> Did you make them traveling past each other as I specified, or did you just
>>>> plop them down in the table? What’s wrong with you? Can you not follow
>>>> experimental procedures???
>>> 
>>> Yes I did....the best I can do is to get half of an orbit before it crash
>>> into the magnet. It seems that you are a lying sack of shit.
>> 
>> Notice that you have not removed friction between the magnet and the table,
>> or between the ball and the table. What did I tell you about being careful
>> to remove friction in your experimental tests. 
>> 
>> Secondly, to get a circular orbit, the velocity of the ball has to be made
>> not too small and not too large. This is how the moon’s orbit w...
> 
> I don’t believe it and since It is your assertion.....why don’t you do it
> and make a video of it and show us.
> 

The disbelief of an uneducated man such as yourself is not particularly
compelling. The difference between you and me, Ken, is that I have taken
the time and effort to educate myself somewhat, and as a result of that
education, I have come to believe some things are true. Some of that
education involves seeing well-crafted real-life demonstrations. You on the
other hand have not taken any time or effort to educate yourself. And so
all you use for deciding what to believe is your common sense and
demonstrations you put together with things from your junk drawer. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#461926

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-06-20 18:14 -0400
Message-ID<7lAWC.233119$o43.8626@fx33.iad>
In reply to#461914
On 6/20/2018 5:08 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>> On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 10:26:54 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>> On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 4:48:22 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 1:59:46 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 11:44:55 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 4:23:12 PM UTC-4, Python wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 2:14:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is also wrong. Every time you open your mouth you say something in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> conflict with first year elementary physics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So say an uneducated moron woodworker.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Likely not uneducated at all, as he is absolutely right, Mr Seto.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You, on the other side, have shown that you are 100% uneducated in
>>>>>>>>>>> the matters of basic math and physics, remember your post below, Mr
>>>>>>>>>>> Seto?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Newton’s calculations assumed a single attractive force of gravity and a
>>>>>>>>>> circular orbit of the moon (the same radius for all locations of the
>>>>>>>>>> moon). The fact that his calculations agree with observation is irrelevant.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And with that “irrelevant” comment you continue to show you have NO idea
>>>>>>>>> how science works.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Idiot....You have no idea how a single attractive force works. The source
>>>>>>>> of a single attractive force can’t make objects orbit around it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why, yes, Ken, it can.  Take any two objects that are just passing each
>>>>>>> other with no forces acting on either one of them, and then throw a switch
>>>>>>> to turn on an attractive force between them — just that one attractive
>>>>>>> force — and they will now orbit each other.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey uneducated moron woodworker, I have a magnet and an iron ball I can’t
>>>>>> make the ball orbiting the magnet. It just crash into the magnet as predicted.
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you make them traveling past each other as I specified, or did you just
>>>>> plop them down in the table? What’s wrong with you? Can you not follow
>>>>> experimental procedures???
>>>>
>>>> Yes I did....the best I can do is to get half of an orbit before it crash
>>>> into the magnet. It seems that you are a lying sack of shit.
>>>
>>> Notice that you have not removed friction between the magnet and the table,
>>> or between the ball and the table. What did I tell you about being careful
>>> to remove friction in your experimental tests.
>>>
>>> Secondly, to get a circular orbit, the velocity of the ball has to be made
>>> not too small and not too large. This is how the moon’s orbit w...
>>
>> I don’t believe it and since It is your assertion.....why don’t you do it
>> and make a video of it and show us.
>>
> 
> The disbelief of an uneducated man such as yourself is not particularly
> compelling. The difference between you and me, Ken, is that I have taken
> the time and effort to educate myself somewhat, and as a result of that
> education, I have come to believe some things are true. Some of that
> education involves seeing well-crafted real-life demonstrations. You on the
> other hand have not taken any time or effort to educate yourself. And so
> all you use for deciding what to believe is your common sense and
> demonstrations you put together with things from your junk drawer.
> 
Notice Odd has only educated himself "somewhat", Kenseto. To Boinker 
it's all about religion. His high priests tell him what to believe and 
he sucks it right in and spreads the gospel rote.  He forgets that the 
history of science is a history of screaming errors that were sold as 
ultimate truth. He can't imagine that nothing has changed in this regard 
over time. The true test of sciences is not belief or politics but 
actual measurements. If there are no experiments that agree or disagree 
with your theories yet, you still might be an idiot, but it's nus nobody 
knows it yet. Odd's trick is that once you are proven wrong just insist 
that you never said the previous things you said.

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#461930

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-20 15:18 -0700
Message-ID<59ad9f1e-7761-437d-a8c7-70f2c5e769c1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#461926
On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 5:14:29 PM UTC-5, benj wrote:

> Notice Odd has only educated himself "somewhat", Kenseto. To Boinker 
> it's all about religion. His high priests tell him what to believe and 
> he sucks it right in and spreads the gospel rote.  He forgets that the 
> history of science is a history of screaming errors that were sold as 
> ultimate truth. He can't imagine that nothing has changed in this regard 
> over time. The true test of sciences is not belief or politics but 
> actual measurements. If there are no experiments that agree or disagree 
> with your theories yet, you still might be an idiot, but it's nus nobody 
> knows it yet. Odd's trick is that once you are proven wrong just insist 
> that you never said the previous things you said.

You are an idiot, benj.

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#462051

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-06-21 11:29 -0700
Message-ID<2104640d-0e93-47f9-8ce5-846fc715dbe7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#461926
On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 6:14:29 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
> On 6/20/2018 5:08 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 10:26:54 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>> On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 4:48:22 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 1:59:46 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 11:44:55 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 4:23:12 PM UTC-4, Python wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> kenseto wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 2:14:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That is also wrong. Every time you open your mouth you say something in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> conflict with first year elementary physics.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> So say an uneducated moron woodworker.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Likely not uneducated at all, as he is absolutely right, Mr Seto.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> You, on the other side, have shown that you are 100% uneducated in
> >>>>>>>>>>> the matters of basic math and physics, remember your post below, Mr
> >>>>>>>>>>> Seto?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Newton’s calculations assumed a single attractive force of gravity and a
> >>>>>>>>>> circular orbit of the moon (the same radius for all locations of the
> >>>>>>>>>> moon). The fact that his calculations agree with observation is irrelevant.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> And with that “irrelevant” comment you continue to show you have NO idea
> >>>>>>>>> how science works.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Idiot....You have no idea how a single attractive force works. The source
> >>>>>>>> of a single attractive force can’t make objects orbit around it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Why, yes, Ken, it can.  Take any two objects that are just passing each
> >>>>>>> other with no forces acting on either one of them, and then throw a switch
> >>>>>>> to turn on an attractive force between them — just that one attractive
> >>>>>>> force — and they will now orbit each other.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hey uneducated moron woodworker, I have a magnet and an iron ball I can’t
> >>>>>> make the ball orbiting the magnet. It just crash into the magnet as predicted.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Did you make them traveling past each other as I specified, or did you just
> >>>>> plop them down in the table? What’s wrong with you? Can you not follow
> >>>>> experimental procedures???
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes I did....the best I can do is to get half of an orbit before it crash
> >>>> into the magnet. It seems that you are a lying sack of shit.
> >>>
> >>> Notice that you have not removed friction between the magnet and the table,
> >>> or between the ball and the table. What did I tell you about being careful
> >>> to remove friction in your experimental tests.
> >>>
> >>> Secondly, to get a circular orbit, the velocity of the ball has to be made
> >>> not too small and not too large. This is how the moon’s orbit w...
> >>
> >> I don’t believe it and since It is your assertion.....why don’t you do it
> >> and make a video of it and show us.
> >>
> > 
> > The disbelief of an uneducated man such as yourself is not particularly
> > compelling. The difference between you and me, Ken, is that I have taken
> > the time and effort to educate myself somewhat, and as a result of that
> > education, I have come to believe some things are true. Some of that
> > education involves seeing well-crafted real-life demonstrations. You on the
> > other hand have not taken any time or effort to educate yourself. And so
> > all you use for deciding what to believe is your common sense and
> > demonstrations you put together with things from your junk drawer.
> > 
> Notice Odd has only educated himself "somewhat", Kenseto. To Boinker 
> it's all about religion. His high priests tell him what to believe and 
> he sucks it right in and spreads the gospel rote. 

Yeah, he is like a suicide bomber...defends Einstein’s physics at all cost.


> He forgets that the 
> history of science is a history of screaming errors that were sold as 
> ultimate truth. He can't imagine that nothing has changed in this regard 
> over time. The true test of sciences is not belief or politics but 
> actual measurements. If there are no experiments that agree or disagree 
> with your theories yet, you still might be an idiot, but it's nus nobody 
> knows it yet. Odd's trick is that once you are proven wrong just insist 
> that you never said the previous things you said.

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