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Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity?

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity?
Date	2018-06-20 21:08 +0000
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kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 10:26:54 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 4:48:22 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 1:59:46 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 11:44:55 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 4:23:12 PM UTC-4, Python wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 2:14:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> That is also wrong. Every time you open your mouth you say something in
>>>>>>>>>>>> conflict with first year elementary physics.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> So say an uneducated moron woodworker.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Likely not uneducated at all, as he is absolutely right, Mr Seto.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> You, on the other side, have shown that you are 100% uneducated in
>>>>>>>>>> the matters of basic math and physics, remember your post below, Mr
>>>>>>>>>> Seto?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Newton’s calculations assumed a single attractive force of gravity and a
>>>>>>>>> circular orbit of the moon (the same radius for all locations of the
>>>>>>>>> moon). The fact that his calculations agree with observation is irrelevant. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> And with that “irrelevant” comment you continue to show you have NO idea
>>>>>>>> how science works. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Idiot....You have no idea how a single attractive force works. The source
>>>>>>> of a single attractive force can’t make objects orbit around it. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Why, yes, Ken, it can.  Take any two objects that are just passing each
>>>>>> other with no forces acting on either one of them, and then throw a switch
>>>>>> to turn on an attractive force between them — just that one attractive
>>>>>> force — and they will now orbit each other. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hey uneducated moron woodworker, I have a magnet and an iron ball I can’t
>>>>> make the ball orbiting the magnet. It just crash into the magnet as predicted. 
>>>> 
>>>> Did you make them traveling past each other as I specified, or did you just
>>>> plop them down in the table? What’s wrong with you? Can you not follow
>>>> experimental procedures???
>>> 
>>> Yes I did....the best I can do is to get half of an orbit before it crash
>>> into the magnet. It seems that you are a lying sack of shit.
>> 
>> Notice that you have not removed friction between the magnet and the table,
>> or between the ball and the table. What did I tell you about being careful
>> to remove friction in your experimental tests. 
>> 
>> Secondly, to get a circular orbit, the velocity of the ball has to be made
>> not too small and not too large. This is how the moon’s orbit w...
> 
> I don’t believe it and since It is your assertion.....why don’t you do it
> and make a video of it and show us.
> 

The disbelief of an uneducated man such as yourself is not particularly
compelling. The difference between you and me, Ken, is that I have taken
the time and effort to educate myself somewhat, and as a result of that
education, I have come to believe some things are true. Some of that
education involves seeing well-crafted real-life demonstrations. You on the
other hand have not taken any time or effort to educate yourself. And so
all you use for deciding what to believe is your common sense and
demonstrations you put together with things from your junk drawer. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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