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| First post | 2017-06-23 09:36 +1000 |
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Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-23 09:36 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-06-23 10:49 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-22 23:37 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-06-23 17:09 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-23 00:36 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Lipek Mniak <iluka@sskwpiw.pp> - 2017-06-23 11:08 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-23 16:49 -0400
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Valok Planek <lkupuu@kwklewan.oo> - 2017-06-24 10:21 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-22 18:53 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Valok Planek <lkupuu@kwklewan.oo> - 2017-06-24 10:50 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-24 04:29 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Valok Planek <lkupuu@kwklewan.oo> - 2017-06-24 11:42 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-23 07:34 -0500
Re: Does Light Really Exist. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-23 16:55 -0400
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Itu Ikosaku <tkiuu@iotkswwwswu.si> - 2017-06-25 09:43 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-23 09:08 -0500
Re: Does Light Really Exist. pcardinale@volcanomail.com - 2017-06-23 12:14 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-23 16:57 -0400
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-23 22:40 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Iorgas Gerakis <grura@agsiskswk.ai> - 2017-06-24 12:10 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-24 08:42 -0500
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-24 16:28 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-24 23:08 -0500
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-24 21:40 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-25 14:56 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-24 22:14 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-26 11:16 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-25 18:54 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-26 19:30 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-25 10:21 -0500
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-25 22:23 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-26 19:50 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-26 06:03 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-26 10:05 -0500
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-26 08:23 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> - 2017-06-26 15:43 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-26 09:19 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-27 08:15 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-30 17:43 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-30 11:36 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-05 11:20 -0500
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Oveho Trofyzikovu <zfeuur@ceuuwi.ku> - 2017-07-05 17:10 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-07-06 03:49 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-06 11:11 -0500
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-06 20:19 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 09:05 -0500
Re: Does Light Really Exist. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-06 20:40 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-07 09:43 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-07 22:49 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-07 09:11 -0500
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-08 09:44 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-08 00:09 -0500
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-09 10:06 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-08 18:01 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-09 12:56 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-08 20:45 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-10 09:50 -0500
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-11 10:58 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-10 19:58 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-10 23:57 -0500
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-12 08:22 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-11 14:54 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-12 08:23 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-12 03:07 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-13 09:42 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-13 03:15 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-14 09:34 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-14 05:24 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-19 10:20 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-19 15:20 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Michael Moroney <moroney@TheWorld.com> - 2017-07-19 19:56 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-30 17:40 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-03 11:37 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-26 07:26 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-26 07:42 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-26 07:51 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-25 23:58 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-26 19:52 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-26 06:06 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-26 06:14 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> - 2017-06-26 15:39 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Ernardin Ignace <ee@wrrawiwidir.ic> - 2017-06-25 09:13 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-25 11:50 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Itu Ikosaku <tkiuu@iotkswwwswu.si> - 2017-06-25 10:00 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-25 12:20 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Itu Ikosaku <tkiuu@iotkswwwswu.si> - 2017-06-25 10:40 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-25 17:33 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> - 2017-06-26 15:49 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-26 18:31 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> - 2017-06-26 18:12 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-25 12:14 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-25 12:05 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Itu Ikosaku <tkiuu@iotkswwwswu.si> - 2017-06-25 10:10 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-25 12:33 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Itu Ikosaku <tkiuu@iotkswwwswu.si> - 2017-06-25 10:48 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Poutnik <Poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-24 16:40 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Iorgas Gerakis <grura@agsiskswk.ai> - 2017-06-24 17:28 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-25 09:20 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-24 17:04 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-25 10:44 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-24 17:54 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-25 03:14 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-24 20:50 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-25 15:05 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-25 16:37 -0500
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-26 11:47 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-06-26 18:02 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> - 2017-06-26 16:30 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-06-26 16:31 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com - 2017-07-13 23:30 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-19 10:24 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com - 2017-07-19 01:26 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-19 19:32 +1000
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| From | "HGW..." <hgw@....> |
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| Date | 2017-07-12 08:22 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <ok3j37$bs7$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #424483 |
On 11/07/17 14:57, Tom Roberts wrote: > On 7/10/17 7/10/17 7:58 PM, HGW... wrote: >> Quantum optics is a fields of physics that has no idea where it is >> going and has produced nothing concrete. > > <sarcasm> Yeah, lasers don't exist, and are useless. </sarcasm> The Laser is a fairly simple technological development that in all reality followed directly from the Bohr or Dirac model. What has QO done recently? Nothing....! > I am repeatedly amazed at how ignorant you are, and how you actually > seem to glory in it. How sad. "If it walks like a physicist, talks like a physicist, quacks like a physicist and thinks like a duck, what is it? IT'S LITTLE TOMMY ROBERTS OF COURSE!!!" > Tom Roberts --
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-07-11 14:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ok2os3$6rd$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #424463 |
"HGW..." <hgw@....> writes: >On 11/07/17 00:50, Tom Roberts wrote: >> On 7/8/17 7/8/17 - 7:06 PM, HGW... wrote: >>> The emitted light moves at c relative to the source and c+v relative >>> to a moving object. >> >> Clearly you don't even know what I asked. It is truly remarkable how >> frequently and repeatedly you display your personal ignorance of physics. >If you measure the OW speed of light from a moving car you will find it >is c+v. That's a simple enough experiment. Ralph, yes that is a simple enough experiment. The results are that the OW speed of light from a moving object is always measured as c, never c+v. >I prefer to spend my time searching for truth than deluding myself with >fairy tales. So why do you delude yourself with DirtyBaThWater, Ralph?
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| From | "HGW..." <hgw@....> |
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| Date | 2017-07-12 08:23 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <ok3j4u$bs7$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #424510 |
On 12/07/17 00:54, Michael Moroney wrote: > "HGW..." <hgw@....> writes: > >> On 11/07/17 00:50, Tom Roberts wrote: >>> On 7/8/17 7/8/17 - 7:06 PM, HGW... wrote: > >>>> The emitted light moves at c relative to the source and c+v relative >>>> to a moving object. >>> >>> Clearly you don't even know what I asked. It is truly remarkable how >>> frequently and repeatedly you display your personal ignorance of physics. > >> If you measure the OW speed of light from a moving car you will find it >> is c+v. That's a simple enough experiment. > > Ralph, yes that is a simple enough experiment. The results are that the > OW speed of light from a moving object is always measured as c, never c+v. proof please, Moron..... --
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-07-12 03:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ok43om$hc5$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #424556 |
"HGW..." <hgw@....> writes: >On 12/07/17 00:54, Michael Moroney wrote: >> "HGW..." <hgw@....> writes: >> >>> On 11/07/17 00:50, Tom Roberts wrote: >>>> On 7/8/17 7/8/17 - 7:06 PM, HGW... wrote: >> >>>>> The emitted light moves at c relative to the source and c+v relative >>>>> to a moving object. >>>> >>>> Clearly you don't even know what I asked. It is truly remarkable how >>>> frequently and repeatedly you display your personal ignorance of physics. >> >>> If you measure the OW speed of light from a moving car you will find it >>> is c+v. That's a simple enough experiment. >> >> Ralph, yes that is a simple enough experiment. The results are that the >> OW speed of light from a moving object is always measured as c, never c+v. >proof please, Moron..... Ralph, Paul Andersen has repeatedly directed to his list of experients that validate SR and GR. Many demonstrate the speed of light emitted from a moving object is always measured as c. Ralph, any time anyone directs you to Paul's list, you never read them but simply poo-poo them as fake or something, and your reply to me will certainly be no different. In other words, you ask for proof but when given the proof you refuse to even read it.
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| From | "HGW..." <hgw@....> |
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| Date | 2017-07-13 09:42 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <ok6c5r$3fa$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #424583 |
On 12/07/17 13:07, Michael Moroney wrote: > "HGW..." <hgw@....> writes: >>> Henry, yes that is a simple enough experiment. The results are that the >>> OW speed of light from a moving object is always measured as c, never c+v. > >> proof please, Moron..... > > Henry, Paul Andersen has repeatedly directed to his list of experients > that validate SR and GR. Many demonstrate the speed of light emitted from > a moving object is always measured as c. > > Henry, any time anyone directs you to Paul's list, you never read them > but simply poo-poo them as fake or something, and your reply to me will > certainly be no different. In other words, you ask for proof but when > given the proof you refuse to even read it. Paul Andersen has amassed a nice collection of fairy tales....just as his great grandfather Hans did 150 years ago. --
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-07-13 03:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ok6ol9$6vc$3@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #424662 |
"HGW..." <hgw@....> writes: >On 12/07/17 13:07, Michael Moroney wrote: >> "HGW..." <hgw@....> writes: >>>> Ralph, yes that is a simple enough experiment. The results are that the >>>> OW speed of light from a moving object is always measured as c, never c+v. >> >>> proof please, Moron..... >> >> Ralph, Paul Andersen has repeatedly directed to his list of experients >> that validate SR and GR. Many demonstrate the speed of light emitted from >> a moving object is always measured as c. >> >> Ralph, any time anyone directs you to Paul's list, you never read them >> but simply poo-poo them as fake or something, and your reply to me will >> certainly be no different. In other words, you ask for proof but when >> given the proof you refuse to even read it. >Paul Andersen has amassed a nice collection of fairy tales....just as >his great grandfather Hans did 150 years ago. See what I mean, Ralph? *Exactly* as I predicted, you simply poo-poo the experiments on Paul's list, calling them fairy tales, without ever reading any of them. You are so predictible, Ralph.
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| From | "HGW..." <hgw@....> |
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| Date | 2017-07-14 09:34 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <ok901v$1pob$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #424682 |
On 13/07/17 13:15, Michael Moroney wrote: > "HGW..." <hgw@....> writes: >>> Henry, Paul Andersen has repeatedly directed to his list of experients >>> that validate SR and GR. Many demonstrate the speed of light emitted from >>> a moving object is always measured as c. >>> >>> Henry, any time anyone directs you to Paul's list, you never read them >>> but simply poo-poo them as fake or something, and your reply to me will >>> certainly be no different. In other words, you ask for proof but when >>> given the proof you refuse to even read it. > >> Paul Andersen has amassed a nice collection of fairy tales....just as >> his great grandfather Hans did 150 years ago. > > See what I mean, Henry? *Exactly* as I predicted, you simply poo-poo the > experiments on Paul's list, calling them fairy tales, without ever reading > any of them. Every one of them is a joke. I have read them and explained why they are useless. > You are so predictible, Henry. Name one that you have read and understood, moron-y --
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-07-14 05:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ok9khv$qon$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #424784 |
"HGW..." <hgw@....> writes: >On 13/07/17 13:15, Michael Moroney wrote: >> "HGW..." <hgw@....> writes: >>>> Ralph, Paul Andersen has repeatedly directed to his list of experients >>>> that validate SR and GR. Many demonstrate the speed of light emitted from >>>> a moving object is always measured as c. >>>> >>>> Ralph, any time anyone directs you to Paul's list, you never read them >>>> but simply poo-poo them as fake or something, and your reply to me will >>>> certainly be no different. In other words, you ask for proof but when >>>> given the proof you refuse to even read it. >> >>> Paul Andersen has amassed a nice collection of fairy tales....just as >>> his great grandfather Hans did 150 years ago. >> >> See what I mean, Ralph? *Exactly* as I predicted, you simply poo-poo the >> experiments on Paul's list, calling them fairy tales, without ever reading >> any of them. >Every one of them is a joke. I have read them and explained why they are >useless. No, you haven't, Ralph. You just call them fairy tales with no justification, Ralph. >> You are so predictible, Ralph. >Name one that you have read and understood, moron-y Just one, Ralph Malcolm Rabbidge? How about Filippas-Fox, Ralph? https://paulba.no/paper/Filippas_Fox.pdf Ralph Malcolm Rabbidge, this is the decay of a pi-0 meson moving at a significant fraction of c into two gamma photons, Ralph. The photons move in opposite directions in the rest frame of the meson. If one of the photons is pretty much in the forward direction of the meson, Ralph, it should be moving at close to 2c (speed of the meson + c, speed of the photon) if DirtyBaThWater was valid, Ralph Malcolm Rabbidge. However, the photons are always detected as moving at c, Ralph, thus invalidating DirtyBaThWater. This disproves photons moving at c+v, Ralph. Ralph Malcolm, if you actually read and understood this paper, Ralph, you would have realized it invalidates DirtyBaThWater, Ralph. Instead you call it a "fairy tale" without ever reading it, Ralph.
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| From | "HGW..." <hgw@....> |
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| Date | 2017-07-19 10:20 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <okm8js$1254$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #424805 |
On 14/07/17 15:24, Michael Moroney wrote: > "HGW..." <hgw@....> writes: > >> Name one that you have read and understood, moron-y > > Just one, Henry George Wilson? How about Filippas-Fox, Ralph? > https://paulba.no/paper/Filippas_Fox.pdf what a histerical joke! The pion stopped before htey decayed. > Henry George Wilson, this is the decay of a pi-0 meson moving at a > significant fraction of c into two gamma photons, Henry. The photons > move in opposite directions in the rest frame of the meson. If one > of the photons is pretty much in the forward direction of the meson, > Henry, it should be moving at close to 2c (speed of the meson + c, > speed of the photon) if DirtyBaThWater was valid, Henry George > Wilson. However, the photons are always detected as moving at c, > Ralph, thus invalidating DirtyBaThWater. This disproves photons > moving at c+v, Henry George Wilson, if you actually read and > understood this paper, Henry, you would have realized it invalidates > DirtyBaThWater, Henry. Instead you call it a "fairy tale" without > ever reading it, Henry. Idiot, their OW speeds were never measured accurately and the result is meaningless anyway. If you read and understood the article you would soon see that you need a calculator to count the number of assumptions the authors made. They could have produced any answer they wanted. The only truth that comes from experiments like this one is that the best way to ensure future funding in the US is to publish something that purports to support Einstein...it will be snapped up by any dingleberry owned journal. . > --
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| From | "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> |
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| Date | 2017-07-19 15:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <oknmb1$ig2$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #425548 |
Den 19.07.2017 02.20, skrev HGW...: > On 14/07/17 15:24, Michael Moroney wrote: >> https://paulba.no/paper/Filippas_Fox.pdf > > what a histerical joke! The pion stopped before htey decayed. Quite. A hysterical joke indeed! :-D You are most funny when you don't try, Ralph! -- Paul https://paulba.no/
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| From | Michael Moroney <moroney@TheWorld.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-19 19:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <okodhl$4s3$4@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #425548 |
"HGW..." <hgw@....> writes: >On 14/07/17 15:24, Michael Moroney wrote: >> "HGW..." <hgw@....> writes: >> >>> Name one that you have read and understood, moron-y >> >> Just one, Ralph Malcolm Rabbidge? How about Filippas-Fox, Ralph? >> https://paulba.no/paper/Filippas_Fox.pdf >what a histerical joke! The pion stopped before htey decayed. Ralph, why do you say that? What stopped them? What evidence is there that they were stopped? Where are the reaction products of the pi-0+<whatever stopped them> reactions? Why is the momentum of the pi-0 decay gammas so much in the forward direction instead of being radiated isotropically, Ralph? >> Ralph Malcolm Rabbidge, this is the decay of a pi-0 meson moving at a >> significant fraction of c into two gamma photons, Ralph. The photons >> move in opposite directions in the rest frame of the meson. If one >> of the photons is pretty much in the forward direction of the meson, >> Ralph, it should be moving at close to 2c (speed of the meson + c, >> speed of the photon) if DirtyBaThWater was valid, Ralph Malcolm >> Rabbidge. However, the photons are always detected as moving at c, >> Ralph, thus invalidating DirtyBaThWater. This disproves photons >> moving at c+v, Ralph Malcolm Rabbidge, if you actually read and >> understood this paper, Ralph, you would have realized it invalidates >> DirtyBaThWater, Ralph. Instead you call it a "fairy tale" without >> ever reading it, Ralph. >Idiot, their OW speeds were never measured accurately and the result is >meaningless anyway. If you read and understood the article you would >soon see that you need a calculator to count the number of assumptions >the authors made. They could have produced any answer they wanted. How about listing a few of these assumptions, Ralph Malcolm Rabbidge? Don't bother listing more than a dozen, Ralph.
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2017-06-30 17:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <16117290.sWSEgdgrri@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #423470 |
wrote: > Light interacts weakly with other EM, particularly in very high vacuum. Such a nonsense, it is not even wrong. > [more pseudoscience] -- PointedEars Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | "HGW..." <hgw@....> |
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| Date | 2017-07-03 11:37 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <ojc74l$iod$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #423675 |
On 01/07/17 01:40, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > wrote: > >> Light interacts weakly with other EM, particularly in very high vacuum. > > Such a nonsense, it is not even wrong. True, it is not wrong....and your ears still point to the vacuum between them. --
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| From | "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-26 07:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <52afbbc9-6a43-470d-a49e-5256c1bc11e1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #423431 |
On Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 10:22:02 AM UTC-5, tjrob137 wrote: > On 6/24/17 6/24/17 11:56 PM, HGW... wrote: > > Naturally light loses energy as it travels. How could it not? > > What MAGIC would cause energy loss? Light could travel from distant galaxies to > earth without losing significant energy if there is no mechanism to cause it to > lose energy. <snip ramblings> (2 * G * (0.25 kg)) / (c^2) = 3.71295774e-28 meters A Schwarzschild Surface (Event Horizon) shaped in a Schwarz p minimal surface is Already at maximum Entropy and cannot Accept or reject Any Energy from the traveling photon. A Schwarzschild Surface shaped in a Schwarz p minimal surface as a Perfect Black Body Radiator https://goo.gl/photos/gYVc7f1iJZXazxRc8
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| From | "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-26 07:42 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <db265818-581f-4768-9c8c-88379e1db6d7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #423490 |
On Monday, June 26, 2017 at 9:26:04 AM UTC-5, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote: > On Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 10:22:02 AM UTC-5, tjrob137 wrote: > > On 6/24/17 6/24/17 11:56 PM, HGW... wrote: > > > Naturally light loses energy as it travels. How could it not? > > > > What MAGIC would cause energy loss? Light could travel from distant galaxies to > > earth without losing significant energy if there is no mechanism to cause it to > > lose energy. > > <snip ramblings> > > (2 * G * (0.25 kg)) / (c^2) = 3.71295774e-28 meters > > A Schwarzschild Surface (Event Horizon) shaped in a Schwarz p minimal surface is Already at maximum Entropy and cannot Accept or reject Any Energy from the traveling photon. > > A Schwarzschild Surface shaped in a Schwarz p minimal surface as a Perfect Black Body Radiator > > https://goo.gl/photos/gYVc7f1iJZXazxRc8 The pilot-wave dynamics of walking droplets https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmC0ygr08tE https://goo.gl/photos/jSm92bdK6eSMcTTP9
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| From | "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-26 07:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f338a83c-1350-4e10-8d7f-f67c697ce25a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #423491 |
On Monday, June 26, 2017 at 9:42:14 AM UTC-5, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote: > On Monday, June 26, 2017 at 9:26:04 AM UTC-5, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote: > > On Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 10:22:02 AM UTC-5, tjrob137 wrote: > > > On 6/24/17 6/24/17 11:56 PM, HGW... wrote: > > > > Naturally light loses energy as it travels. How could it not? > > > > > > What MAGIC would cause energy loss? Light could travel from distant galaxies to > > > earth without losing significant energy if there is no mechanism to cause it to > > > lose energy. > > > > <snip ramblings> > > > > (2 * G * (0.25 kg)) / (c^2) = 3.71295774e-28 meters > > > > A Schwarzschild Surface (Event Horizon) shaped in a Schwarz p minimal surface is Already at maximum Entropy and cannot Accept or reject Any Energy from the traveling photon. > > > > A Schwarzschild Surface shaped in a Schwarz p minimal surface as a Perfect Black Body Radiator > > > > https://goo.gl/photos/gYVc7f1iJZXazxRc8 > > > > The pilot-wave dynamics of walking droplets > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmC0ygr08tE > > > https://goo.gl/photos/jSm92bdK6eSMcTTP9 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubble_(physics)#Pulsation https://goo.gl/photos/vsZhLb91da3gDrtHA https://goo.gl/photos/GxpHZfAdP2fqUh1d6 https://goo.gl/photos/GbRqgZiya8M1991Z9 http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/permot3.html http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Sound/souspe2.html#c1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjPFfT2EyxQ
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2017-06-25 23:58 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <3148714.LM0AJKV5NW@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #423406 |
wrote:
> Naturally light loses energy as it travels. How could it not?
Energy is a conserved quantity.
Were it not for friction, objects in motion would retain all their kinetic
energy (instead of exchanging it for heat) and continue moving forever.
In outer space, there is virtually nothing that could cause friction: outer
space is virtually *empty*. Why do we know that? Basically because we can
observe stars and galaxies that are very far away. If there would be
anything significant between them and us, we would not observe them as we
do.
Your argument is that of Aristotle (384–322 BCE): that a force would be
required to keep objects in motion.
But Isaac Newton already knew in 1687 (CE) that Aristotle was wrong, because
Aristotle never considered friction.
[Leonard Susskind humorously says in his “Classical Mechanics” lecture
(I am paraphrasing him): “Had Aristotle gone ice-skating, he would have
known that it is friction that slows down moving objects. But he lived
in Greece, so he never could go ice-skating.”]
> That's why there is a cosmic red shift roughly proportional to the
> source distance from Earth.
That is simply not true:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubble%27s_law#redshift>
(read *all* of it)
> If the BB theory was correct, the observed red shift would not be
> symmetrical around our planet unless the Earth was the centre of the
> universe...
No. Please look at this animation I made on that subject (tested with
Chromium/Chrome):
<http://PointedEars.de/markup/xml/SVG/observable-universe.html>
This abstractly depicts *our* *observable* universe. But according to the
BB theory, everything is moving away from everything (metric expansion),
like the raisins in an expanding raisin bread:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_expansion_of_space#/media/File:Raisinbread.gif>
So the observed effect is the same for every observer in the universe (each
observer just sees different astronomical objects receding from them).
> which is what many good christians want to believe.
“Want to believe” is well-worded by you for a change. It shows that
different to science, belief is not at all grounded in observed fact, but
*only* in hearsay and wishful thinking. Conclusions drawn from it are
therefore inherently fallacious.
--
PointedEars
Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> |
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| Date | 2017-06-26 19:52 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <oiqldq$4fg$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #423451 |
On 26/06/17 07:58, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: "My ears point to the vacuum that exists between them."
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| From | "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-26 06:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <749e3651-7838-4885-a155-886092aafed6@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #423471 |
HGW, DSc. Scribbled On 26/06/17 07:58, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: "My ears point to the vacuum that exists between them." Your brain is what is left over after a dumpster Fire at a Dementia Nursing home.
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| From | "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-26 06:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <84662ede-04be-465e-9fe2-b9e819753193@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #423481 |
(0.22360679775^2) / (3e+8 * 3.3333333333333e-11) = 5 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedmann_equations#Density_parameter To date, the critical density is estimated to be approximately five atoms (of monatomic hydrogen) per cubic metre, whereas the average density of ordinary matter in the Universe is believed to be 0.2–0.25 atoms per cubic metre
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