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| Started by | "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> |
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| First post | 2017-04-02 09:11 +1000 |
| Last post | 2017-04-25 08:59 +1000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 554 — 39 participants |
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A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-02 09:11 +1000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-02 00:46 +0000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-03 12:07 +1000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-02 10:14 +0200
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. Nken Kajiura <unuur@wkjkj.ni> - 2017-04-02 12:55 +0000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-03 12:02 +1000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-03 10:04 +0200
Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-03 14:36 +0000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-03 08:47 -0700
Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-03 12:44 -0700
Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 15:28 -0500
Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. Nken Kajiura <unuur@wkjkj.ni> - 2017-04-03 22:09 +0000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-03 23:11 -0700
Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. Nken Kajiura <unuur@wkjkj.ni> - 2017-04-03 22:04 +0000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-03 17:12 -0500
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. sdru.product@gmail.com - 2017-04-03 16:44 -0700
non-coordinate basis (was: Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries.) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-04 21:28 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-05 20:54 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-05 08:38 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-06 09:24 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-05 18:56 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-07 21:57 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-09 08:58 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-10 11:48 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-11 08:50 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-11 07:51 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-12 07:35 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-11 17:46 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-12 21:39 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-13 08:30 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-13 09:38 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 02:05 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-14 09:08 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-14 20:56 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-16 08:24 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-16 09:49 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-17 11:22 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-17 11:07 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-18 08:55 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-18 10:22 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-19 15:28 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-19 09:51 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-21 09:39 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-20 17:24 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-22 19:19 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-22 05:05 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-23 09:43 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-22 20:19 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-24 08:57 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-23 21:20 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-24 18:10 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-24 05:31 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-24 05:58 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-25 08:58 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Lintervallen Ruther <rt@lweaevte.ri> - 2017-04-24 06:01 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-24 17:58 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 16:30 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-26 09:13 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-26 21:30 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-28 18:14 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-28 01:23 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-29 08:54 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-29 14:00 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-01 09:34 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 07:55 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 09:10 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 13:58 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 10:33 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 12:59 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 08:12 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 17:25 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 19:24 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-04 11:40 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 09:41 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-04 19:05 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 14:03 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-05 10:09 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 08:30 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-05 21:03 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-06 08:58 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-05 21:00 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 15:20 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-05 23:09 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-05-05 15:59 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-06 09:10 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-06 08:01 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 06:01 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 06:02 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-11 11:02 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-11 19:58 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Jean-Pierre Framboise <nctede@pmdcehr.cc> - 2017-05-11 19:25 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-12 11:31 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-11 18:56 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-13 07:50 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 16:56 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-13 09:47 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-13 11:29 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-14 07:43 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-13 02:39 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-13 11:32 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-14 07:48 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-14 00:13 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-16 19:51 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis 01405 <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 05:34 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 10:30 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-12 20:39 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-13 11:32 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-13 11:33 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-26 15:23 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-27 09:50 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-27 13:44 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-28 18:32 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-19 15:30 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 13:27 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 09:07 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-13 21:22 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Heki Entouba <buububu@enou3eh.ac> - 2017-04-13 20:34 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-14 10:42 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Wendi Maddox <ox@awdodww.oe> - 2017-04-14 14:34 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 12:53 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Wendi Maddox <ox@awdodww.oe> - 2017-04-14 14:39 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 17:06 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Wendi Maddox <ox@awdodww.oe> - 2017-04-14 15:28 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Wendi Maddox <ox@awdodww.oe> - 2017-04-14 15:31 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-14 20:56 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Wendi Maddox <ox@awdodww.oe> - 2017-04-14 23:26 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 12:47 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-14 03:55 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-20 10:38 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-20 10:57 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-20 17:08 +0000
"How nature works" vs model making Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-26 21:58 -0500
Re: "How nature works" vs model making mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-26 22:48 -0700
Re: "How nature works" vs model making "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-28 14:18 +0100
Re: "How nature works" vs model making mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-28 06:40 -0700
Re: "How nature works" vs model making "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-28 20:49 +0100
Re: "How nature works" vs model making mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-28 14:55 -0700
Re: "How nature works" vs model making "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-29 21:42 +0100
Re: "How nature works" vs model making "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-27 20:28 +0100
Re: "How nature works" vs model making Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 09:59 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-20 17:07 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-20 14:01 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-20 19:25 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-20 20:01 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-20 18:07 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-20 14:09 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-21 14:14 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Ubet Hitaosi <suetsu@tooube.ic> - 2017-04-21 21:39 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-21 23:43 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Ubet Hitaosi <suetsu@tooube.ic> - 2017-04-21 22:03 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-22 01:08 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-24 15:42 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-04-09 18:37 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-10 11:35 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 20:30 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-12 07:38 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-05 08:33 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-06 09:21 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-05 18:45 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-07 05:52 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-06 15:06 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-07 06:21 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-06 15:33 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-07 09:05 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-07 07:27 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-07 06:32 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-08 09:06 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-07 20:28 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-09 09:17 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-08 20:19 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-10 11:37 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-08 09:09 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-07 18:12 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-08 10:13 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-07 19:44 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-09 09:23 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-04-09 01:35 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-09 11:04 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-09 13:39 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Kimberli Mafalda Rotenberry <uetbbe@werrirroeb.ie> - 2017-04-09 19:19 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-10 11:39 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 08:09 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Jolie Osokuro <uuol@oowo.ou> - 2017-04-10 17:03 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-11 08:55 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Jolie Osokuro <uuol@oowo.ou> - 2017-04-11 11:23 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-12 07:41 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-10 11:46 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 08:11 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-10 06:18 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-11 09:03 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-11 07:59 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-12 08:06 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-11 15:41 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-11 17:45 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-13 08:40 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 09:00 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-14 09:41 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-04-14 01:45 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 08:30 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-14 16:19 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-14 12:14 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-17 11:08 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-17 12:36 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-17 07:27 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-18 09:13 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-17 18:53 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-19 15:38 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-17 10:44 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-17 12:31 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-18 09:16 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-18 01:30 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Nocasto Aboyar <oocaao@syeoby.ao> - 2017-04-18 14:33 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-19 15:42 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-12 12:36 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-12 17:15 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-13 08:50 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-12 21:44 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-12 20:16 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-14 09:50 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-13 17:20 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-13 17:28 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-17 11:11 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-16 18:24 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-18 09:19 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-18 01:34 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-17 20:14 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-19 15:48 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-19 09:22 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-19 15:35 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 13:58 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-20 08:19 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-20 11:09 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-20 06:06 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-21 09:44 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-20 10:43 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-20 21:28 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis physics.interuptus@gmail.com - 2017-04-20 14:00 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-21 09:48 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-14 09:45 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-09 13:33 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-10 11:50 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 08:12 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-10 08:42 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-11 09:07 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-10 17:18 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-11 10:54 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-10 18:36 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-12 08:09 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-11 15:44 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-12 10:36 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-12 04:21 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-12 04:56 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-12 21:37 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-13 08:58 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-13 08:58 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 00:35 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-13 09:40 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 15:27 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 06:32 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 09:12 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-13 20:59 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 12:06 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 13:06 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-14 20:57 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 23:12 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 11:36 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-15 13:33 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Wendi Maddox <ox@awdodww.oe> - 2017-04-15 12:10 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-15 14:14 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Iwakitok Yuu <yauuu@ikwuo.wk> - 2017-04-15 12:58 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 21:22 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 08:17 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 13:48 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 08:18 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-17 10:10 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 00:10 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-18 21:41 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 23:40 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-19 09:30 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 10:33 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 10:59 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-16 02:35 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 14:39 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 08:41 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-17 10:14 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-17 05:55 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-17 16:13 +0100
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Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-17 16:49 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-18 06:25 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Nocasto Aboyar <oocaao@syeoby.ao> - 2017-04-18 14:25 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 17:06 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Nocasto Aboyar <oocaao@syeoby.ao> - 2017-04-18 15:24 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 17:57 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Nocasto Aboyar <oocaao@syeoby.ao> - 2017-04-18 18:13 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-18 21:50 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-19 04:20 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 00:14 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-18 21:55 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 23:37 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 00:55 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-19 09:20 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 10:31 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 22:02 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-20 08:24 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-19 17:56 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-20 11:09 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-21 10:01 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-20 17:32 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-21 10:43 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-21 11:13 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-22 19:30 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 14:19 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-23 09:47 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:30 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-25 09:07 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 01:43 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-26 09:24 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 22:02 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-27 09:26 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-26 22:22 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-27 20:21 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-28 18:27 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 09:41 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-29 10:46 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 13:16 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-29 21:49 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-29 22:58 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-30 10:23 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-01 08:37 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-01 20:08 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-01 17:45 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-01 13:29 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-01 21:31 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-01 23:09 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-02 19:42 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 10:23 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-02 19:47 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 10:42 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-02 20:38 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-03 07:49 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 18:58 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-06 17:43 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-07 10:48 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-07 10:25 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-09 19:37 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-10 21:17 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Jean-Pierre Framboise <nctede@pmdcehr.cc> - 2017-05-10 20:44 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-06 08:59 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-07 10:51 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-07 11:47 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-07 00:40 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 03:17 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-08 10:48 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 13:56 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-06 17:43 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-07 10:56 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-07 10:22 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-07 12:09 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 17:43 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-08 11:00 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-07 21:03 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-08 12:13 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-08 06:14 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 08:23 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-09 19:41 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Lissa Hermes <isussui@aeawwih.es> - 2017-05-09 11:14 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-09 04:28 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-08 09:40 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-09 19:48 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-09 16:56 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-10 17:59 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 10:08 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 07:39 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-10 17:50 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-11 10:23 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-12 02:47 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-11 11:23 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-13 10:23 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-05-13 19:43 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-10 20:50 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-11 10:26 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-10 18:12 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-11 10:56 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-12 02:46 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-13 20:02 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-14 07:55 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-14 10:29 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-05-14 20:16 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-15 13:42 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-16 20:06 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 10:31 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-17 08:24 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 02:38 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-05-17 22:28 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 10:51 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-18 17:39 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-19 09:48 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-17 11:16 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-17 04:05 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-05-17 21:19 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-17 05:26 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-17 05:56 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-17 11:17 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-05-17 22:08 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-17 11:03 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-01 23:00 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 14:07 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 09:38 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-02 19:37 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 10:49 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-03 08:02 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 19:01 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Himère Bezuinig <numunenen@wgngiweig.mc> - 2017-04-30 11:28 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-30 16:04 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 07:52 -0500
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Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 09:41 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-02 19:36 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-29 10:33 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-01 10:02 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-30 20:20 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-01 20:21 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-01 04:42 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-01 14:04 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-01 20:57 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-02 19:36 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-03 08:32 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-03 18:20 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 08:10 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-04 19:10 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 10:18 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-01 21:10 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 10:51 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-02 19:52 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 19:12 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-03 04:16 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Ukabaru Hongetsu <uohio@ugutua.ic> - 2017-05-03 15:36 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 19:16 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Ukabaru Hongetsu <uohio@ugutua.ic> - 2017-05-03 15:43 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 08:18 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 17:24 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 19:22 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-04 04:30 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-05 10:41 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-04 19:14 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 09:39 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Ukabaru Hongetsu <uohio@ugutua.ic> - 2017-05-03 15:29 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 14:09 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 10:19 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-26 22:07 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-28 18:30 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-28 01:39 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-29 08:52 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-28 16:11 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-01 20:31 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 07:48 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 10:27 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-01 17:54 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 10:56 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 13:54 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 10:54 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 12:55 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 08:14 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 17:23 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 19:13 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 09:38 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-05 10:39 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 08:27 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-06 09:11 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 06:00 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-07 10:57 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 13:17 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-09 19:08 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 07:45 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-09 09:47 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-09 08:45 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Ubet Hitaosi <suetsu@tooube.ic> - 2017-04-21 17:53 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-22 19:22 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-22 19:28 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis 01405 <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 11:31 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-23 09:49 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis 01405 <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 17:13 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 10:55 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-24 08:48 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis 01405 <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 00:19 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-24 18:34 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-26 22:25 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-28 18:17 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:32 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:31 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-25 09:09 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 01:43 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-26 09:26 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 22:02 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-18 23:02 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 11:13 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 13:49 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 08:49 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-16 11:24 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 18:46 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Okoto Laki <tuuuknu@wnoowow.to> - 2017-04-16 18:16 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-17 10:09 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-20 10:48 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-13 13:55 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 09:46 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-14 11:08 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-13 18:49 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-17 11:15 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-16 18:30 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-18 09:24 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-17 17:34 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-19 15:51 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 09:48 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-16 11:09 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 18:48 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Okoto Laki <tuuuknu@wnoowow.to> - 2017-04-16 18:40 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-10 18:56 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-10 18:59 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-12 08:16 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-11 20:35 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-13 09:09 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-12 18:26 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-12 18:46 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-13 05:05 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 05:26 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-13 20:36 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-13 19:09 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 23:35 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-14 10:43 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-14 03:29 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-21 18:59 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-14 11:17 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-14 11:10 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-13 22:08 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-17 11:18 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-09 09:28 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis sdru.product@gmail.com - 2017-04-06 12:57 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-06 15:09 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-07 22:25 -0500
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-04 14:23 +1000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-04 15:38 +0000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-05 19:58 +1000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-05 14:55 +0000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-06 08:45 +1000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-07 22:37 -0500
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-09 09:37 +1000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-04-22 20:29 +1000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-22 04:58 -0700
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-23 10:10 +1000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-04-23 10:14 +1000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-24 08:51 +1000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-24 14:50 +0000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-25 08:59 +1000
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| From | dancouriann@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-04-14 12:14 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <d1fa53be-a77b-4889-8ea7-ba6e1ef0757d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #416310 |
On Friday, April 14, 2017 at 9:19:46 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote: > "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> writes: > >Because, Bodkin, when you put them together, on one side, you have > >changed the quantities on the other. > >If T == k(x/T) ...(time is dependent on speed) > >T = k(sqrt(x))...(time is dependent on the sqrt of distance.) > >That doesn't make much sense, does it? > > Sure it does, Ralph, once we fix your mistake (it's T = sqrt(kx) ). Right. An example is Kepler's Third Law, which is T = k(1/T) where k = 4 pi^2 /(GMr^3), and T is the time required for a particle to complete a circular orbit of radius r around a gravitating mass M. Of course, this implies T = sqrt(k). I didn't respond to this previously because this digression into 4th grade algebra is irrelevant, since the Lorentz transformations are not commonly written with the same variable appearing on both sides of the equations. They give one set of inertial coordinates as simple linear functions of another set of inertial coordinates. The velocity appearing in the "gamma" factor just represents the velocity of the origin of one system in terms of the other, and it is divided by the constant c, so the ratio is dimensionless, and in any case the time implicit in the denominator of that velocity is not the same as the either of the time coordinates in the transformation. So, the claim that the same parameter can't appear on both sides of an algebraic equation is both erroneous and irrelevant.
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| From | "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> |
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| Date | 2017-04-17 11:08 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <od14io$1om7$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #416317 |
On 15/04/17 05:14, dancouriann@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, April 14, 2017 at 9:19:46 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney > > Right. An example is Kepler's Third Law, which is T = k(1/T) where k > = 4 pi^2 /(GMr^3), and T is the time required for a particle to > complete a circular orbit of radius r around a gravitating mass M. > Of course, this implies T = sqrt(k). > > I didn't respond to this previously because this digression into 4th > grade algebra is irrelevant, since the Lorentz transformations are > not commonly written with the same variable appearing on both sides > of the equations. They give one set of inertial coordinates as > simple linear functions of another set of inertial coordinates. The > velocity appearing in the "gamma" factor just represents the velocity > of the origin of one system in terms of the other, and it is divided > by the constant c, so the ratio is dimensionless, and in any case the > time implicit in the denominator of that velocity is not the same as > the either of the time coordinates in the transformation. So, the > claim that the same parameter can't appear on both sides of an > algebraic equation is both erroneous and irrelevant. Whatever you say does not alter the fact that TIME cannot be transformed in any way by a function of L/T because you wouldn't know whether to use the original or the transformed TIME in the identity. You would have to repeat the transformation over and over and you would end up with TIME = 0. --
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-04-17 12:36 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <od2cs9$j4s$2@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #416463 |
"HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> writes: >Whatever you say does not alter the fact that TIME cannot be transformed >in any way by a function of L/T because you wouldn't know whether to use >the original or the transformed TIME in the identity. You would have to >repeat the transformation over and over and you would end up with TIME = 0. You didn't have algebra in high school, Ralph? Do the schools in Oz really suck that badly? If T = k*L/T, solve for T. Ralph, multiply both sides by T and we get: T^2 = k*L Take the square root of both sides, Ralph and we get the answer: T = sqrt(k*L). That's baby stuff to any real physicist. That's why you are unfamiliar with it, Ralph.
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| From | dancouriann@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-04-17 07:27 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <a32aeffc-c728-4971-ac40-89731217ddcc@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #416463 |
On Sunday, April 16, 2017 at 6:08:44 PM UTC-7, HGW... DSc. wrote: > Whatever you say does not alter the fact that TIME cannot be transformed > in any way by a function of L/T because you wouldn't know whether to use > the original or the transformed TIME in the identity. You would have to > repeat the transformation over and over and you would end up with TIME = 0. Not true. Take the Galilean transformations as an example. They give x'=x-vt, but (according to your reasoning) LENGTH cannot be transformed in any way by a function of L/T because you wouldn't know whether to use the original or the transformed LENGTH in the identity [double sic]. You would have to repeat the transformation over and over and you would end up with LENGTH = 0... But this reasoning is invalid. Given any inertial coordinate system that assigns x and t values to every event in such a way that Newton's equations of mechanics hold good to the first order, we can define another system of coordinates x',t' by assigning x' and t' values to each event using the equations x'=x-vt and t'=t, where v is some constant that represents the speed of the spatial origin of the x',t' coordinates in terms of the x,t coordinates. So there is no ambiguity. The Lorentz transformation works exactly the same way, so there is no ambiguity with those transformations either. I think the difficulty may be with your concept of TIME (in capital letters), which may signify (to you) something other than a temporal coordinate. Perhaps what you are trying to say is that t' must equal t for every coordinate system, but that's clearly false, just as it is false that x' must equal x for every coordinate system. We can obviously assign whatever coordinates we choose to events. We can use rotating coordinates or polar coordinates or accelerating coordinates or skewed coordinates, etc. Coordinates are just labels. Some systems of coordinates are more useful and convenient than others. In particular, in terms of some coordinates the simple equations of Newtonian mechanics hold good (to the first approximation). These are called inertial coordinates. The question is, how are inertial coordinate systems related to each other? The answer is: by Lorentz transformations, for the reason explained previously (energy has inertia).
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| From | "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> |
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| Date | 2017-04-18 09:13 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <od3i6t$1etl$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #416497 |
On 18/04/17 00:27, dancouriann@gmail.com wrote: > On Sunday, April 16, 2017 at 6:08:44 PM UTC-7, HGW... DSc. wrote: >> Whatever you say does not alter the fact that TIME cannot be >> transformed in any way by a function of L/T because you wouldn't >> know whether to use the original or the transformed TIME in the >> identity. You would have to repeat the transformation over and over >> and you would end up with TIME = 0. > > Not true. Take the Galilean transformations as an example. They > give x'=x-vt, but (according to your reasoning) LENGTH cannot be > transformed in any way by a function of L/T because you wouldn't know > whether to use the original or the transformed LENGTH in the identity > [double sic]. You are wrong. x and x' are points. You can't transform the size of a point. It is infinitesimal. The TIME in Einstein's bogus transforms are all intervals not points. > I think the difficulty may be with your concept of TIME (in capital > letters), which may signify (to you) something other than a temporal > coordinate. My view of TIME is that is completely separate from space and has two or maybe three orthogonal components. We are moving along one axis at a constant rate relative to the other axis. The diagonal line below describes a life. t1 | | / | / | / | / ____________________________t2- Perhaps what you are trying to say is that t' must equal > t for every coordinate system, but that's clearly false, just as it > is false that x' must equal x for every coordinate system. We can > obviously assign whatever coordinates we choose to events. We can > use rotating coordinates or polar coordinates or accelerating > coordinates or skewed coordinates, etc. Coordinates are just labels. You are confusing time coordinates with time intervals. I have pointed out many times here that physics is still so backward that it uses the same word TIME for time instant, time interval and time flow, three entirely different concepts. > Some systems of coordinates are more useful and convenient than > others. In particular, in terms of some coordinates the simple > equations of Newtonian mechanics hold good (to the first > approximation). These are called inertial coordinates. The question > is, how are inertial coordinate systems related to each other? The > answer is: by Lorentz transformations, for the reason explained > previously (energy has inertia). The LTs do not exist in the real world. They exist only in an aether filled universe. --
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| From | dancouriann@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-04-17 18:53 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <3df59074-dde5-465e-bdac-71a949b77863@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #416542 |
On Monday, April 17, 2017 at 4:13:37 PM UTC-7, HGW... DSc. wrote: > x and x' are points. No, they are spatial coordinates. > The TIME in Einstein's bogus transforms are > all intervals not points. No, they are temporal coordinates. > My view of TIME is that is completely separate from > space and has two or maybe three orthogonal components. Have you developed a quantitative theory that agrees with experiment? Since you say "two or maybe three", I assume you have not. The idea of multiple time coordinates has been explored by many people, especially in the context of quantum mechanics, but no one has succeeded in making a workable theory of it. > The LTs do not exist in the real world. They exist only in > an aether filled universe. What do you mean when you say "Lorentz transformations don't exist"? They are just simple linear equations relating two sets of coordinates, just the Galilean transformations and Euclidean transformations and any of infinitely many other one-to-one linear transformations. All of these transformations "exist". So you must be using the phrase "do not exist" to meaning something different. Perhaps you mean "Inertial coordinate systems are not related by Lorentz transformations"? That would at least be an intelligible statement, but empirically false. Your caveat that they exist only in an aether filled universe is also puzzling. I suspect you mean something like "the only physical mechanism I have ever heard of to explain why inertial coordinate systems are related by Lorentz transformations is based on a universal stationary ether". That would be an intelligible statement, but it can be easily answered by giving the ballistic explanation of the Lorentz transformations, having nothing to do with ether.
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| From | "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> |
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| Date | 2017-04-19 15:38 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <od6t4b$dtu$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #416554 |
On 18/04/17 11:53, dancouriann@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, April 17, 2017 at 4:13:37 PM UTC-7, HGW... DSc. wrote: >> x and x' are points. > > No, they are spatial coordinates. They are coordinate points. They have no size. They are not intervals >> The TIME in Einstein's bogus transforms are all intervals not >> points. > > No, they are temporal coordinates. Ditto. >> My view of TIME is that is completely separate from space and has >> two or maybe three orthogonal components. > > Have you developed a quantitative theory that agrees with experiment? > Since you say "two or maybe three", I assume you have not. The idea > of multiple time coordinates has been explored by many people, > especially in the context of quantum mechanics, but no one has > succeeded in making a workable theory of it. Time must have more than one sub-dimension because it moves at 1 second per second. That is no more unusual that saying the gradiant of a hill is x per ny. >> The LTs do not exist in the real world. They exist only in an >> aether filled universe. > > What do you mean when you say "Lorentz transformations don't exist"? They do not exist in the real world...except maybe in 'fields'. > They are just simple linear equations relating two sets of > coordinates, just the Galilean transformations and Euclidean > transformations and any of infinitely many other one-to-one linear > transformations. All of these transformations "exist". So you must > be using the phrase "do not exist" to meaning something different. > > Perhaps you mean "Inertial coordinate systems are not related by > Lorentz transformations"? That would at least be an intelligible > statement, but empirically false. Your caveat that they exist only > in an aether filled universe is also puzzling. I suspect you mean > something like "the only physical mechanism I have ever heard of to > explain why inertial coordinate systems are related by Lorentz > transformations is based on a universal stationary ether". That > would be an intelligible statement, but it can be easily answered by > giving the ballistic explanation of the Lorentz transformations, > having nothing to do with ether. The LTs came from aether theory... Firstly, the light clock idea then to explain the MMX null result in order to avoid having to admit to the obvious (that light is source dependent). There is NO aether so the LTs are not relevant. --
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| From | "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> |
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| Date | 2017-04-17 10:44 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <od1362$1n26$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #416310 |
On 15/04/17 02:19, Michael Moroney wrote: > "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> writes: >> Because, Bodkin, when you put them together, on one side, you have >> changed the quantities on the other. >> See my reply to someone else. > >> If T == k(x/T) ...(time is dependent on speed) >> T = k(sqrt(x))...(time is dependent on the sqrt of distance.) >> That doesn't make much sense, does it? > > Sure it does, Henry, once we fix your mistake (it's T = sqrt(kx) ). > What that means is finding out how long it takes for the system to > reach that state. For example, how long does it take for x to reach 100 > if T = k(x/T)? Plug in 100 for x in T = sqrt(kx) and you have your > answer, Henry. What nonsense...A TIME INTERVAL being a function of sqrt (distance) --
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-04-17 12:31 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <od2cic$j4s$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #416461 |
"HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> writes: >On 15/04/17 02:19, Michael Moroney wrote: >> "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> writes: >>> Because, Bodkin, when you put them together, on one side, you have >>> changed the quantities on the other. >>> See my reply to someone else. >> >>> If T == k(x/T) ...(time is dependent on speed) >>> T = k(sqrt(x))...(time is dependent on the sqrt of distance.) >>> That doesn't make much sense, does it? >> >> Sure it does, Ralph, once we fix your mistake (it's T = sqrt(kx) ). >> What that means is finding out how long it takes for the system to >> reach that state. For example, how long does it take for x to reach 100 >> if T = k(x/T)? Plug in 100 for x in T = sqrt(kx) and you have your >> answer, Ralph. >What nonsense...A TIME INTERVAL being a function of sqrt (distance) Why yes, Ralph. How long does it take for a rock dropped off the top of a building with the height d to fall to the ground, Ralph? t = sqrt(2*d/g) where g = 9.8 m/s^2. You didn't learn that in high school physics, Ralph?
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| From | "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> |
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| Date | 2017-04-18 09:16 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <od3id8$1f87$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #416487 |
On 17/04/17 22:31, Michael Moroney wrote: > "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> writes: > >> What nonsense...A TIME INTERVAL being a function of sqrt (distance) > > Why yes, Henry. How long does it take for a rock dropped off the top > of a building with the height d to fall to the ground, Ralph? > > t = sqrt(2*d/g) > > where g = 9.8 m/s^2. > > You didn't learn that in high school physics, Henry? Don't you know the difference between an equation and an identity? --
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-04-18 01:30 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <od3q6o$ee6$2@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #416543 |
"HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> writes: >On 17/04/17 22:31, Michael Moroney wrote: >> "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> writes: >> >>> What nonsense...A TIME INTERVAL being a function of sqrt (distance) >> >> Why yes, Ralph. How long does it take for a rock dropped off the top >> of a building with the height d to fall to the ground, Ralph? >> >> t = sqrt(2*d/g) >> >> where g = 9.8 m/s^2. >> >> You didn't learn that in high school physics, Ralph? >Don't you know the difference between an equation and an identity? Ralph Malcolm Rabbidge, that equation is the function to find the time it takes for the rock to fall from the top of a building due to gravity, Ralph. Ralph Malcolm, you claimed that a time interval being a function of the square root of distance was "nonsense", and not only do I prove you wrong, Ralph, I prove you wrong with a COMMON example, Ralph Rabbidge! So Ralph, do high schools in Oz really suck that badly, Ralph? Or maybe they did when you went to school, but they are better now, Ralph Malcolm?
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| From | Nocasto Aboyar <oocaao@syeoby.ao> |
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| Date | 2017-04-18 14:33 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <od5841$1vih$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #416551 |
Michael Moroney wrote: >>> You didn't learn that in high school physics, Ralph? > >>Don't you know the difference between an equation and an identity? > > Ralph Malcolm Rabbidge, that equation is the function to find the time > it takes for the rock to fall from the top of a building due to gravity, You stupid, severely uneducated sack of dirt. An equation is a function?? In which country of residence? The Serbians gave you electricity, sanitation and roads. And wine, not to forget. Go to sleep, morony. Or come up with things that make sense
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| From | "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> |
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| Date | 2017-04-19 15:42 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <od6tbn$e5r$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #416589 |
On 19/04/17 00:33, Nocasto Aboyar wrote: > Michael Moroney wrote: > >>>> You didn't learn that in high school physics, Ralph? >> >>> Don't you know the difference between an equation and an identity? >> >> Henry George Wilson, that equation is the function to find the time >> it takes for the rock to fall from the top of a building due to gravity, > > You stupid, severely uneducated sack of dirt. An equation is a function?? > In which country of residence? The Serbians gave you electricity, > sanitation and roads. And wine, not to forget. Go to sleep, morony. Or > come up with things that make sense He can't. He was born several litres short of a full cask. I regard Moron-y as great source of entertainment...and living proof that Einstein can only attract ratbag supporters. --
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| From | Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2017-04-12 12:36 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <uPGdnV6o2qQt-HPFnZ2dnUU7_81j4p2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #415965 |
On 4/11/17 4/11/17 - 5:06 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote: > The only direct evidence concerning P2 is my variable star research and it shows > that P2 is wrong.. This is just plain wrong -- your GUESSES and FANTASIES do not constitute "evidence". If you analyzed some VISIBLE binaries for which the orbital parameters can be determined astronomically, then you would have something. But we both know why you don't do that [#], which marks you indelibly as a charlatan and liar. [#] It doesn't work. Tom Roberts
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-12 17:15 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <ocm8ue$1keq$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #416048 |
On 4/12/2017 12:36 PM, Tom Roberts wrote: > On 4/11/17 4/11/17 - 5:06 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote: >> The only direct evidence concerning P2 is my variable star research >> and it shows >> that P2 is wrong.. > > This is just plain wrong -- your GUESSES and FANTASIES do not constitute > "evidence". > > If you analyzed some VISIBLE binaries for which the orbital parameters > can be determined astronomically, then you would have something. > > But we both know why you don't do that [#], which marks you indelibly as > a charlatan and liar. > > [#] It doesn't work. > > Tom Roberts Henry's great scientific advancement, you see, is to focus on data from instances that support his contention, and to dismiss data from any instances that would not support his contention. A "true physicist" carefully chooses the data to measure and pays no heed to any data gathered by others. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> |
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| Date | 2017-04-13 08:50 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <ocmave$1n2u$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #416048 |
On 13/04/17 03:36, Tom Roberts wrote: > On 4/11/17 4/11/17 - 5:06 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote: >> The only direct evidence concerning P2 is my variable star research >> and it shows >> that P2 is wrong.. > > This is just plain wrong -- your GUESSES and FANTASIES do not constitute > "evidence". > > If you analyzed some VISIBLE binaries for which the orbital parameters > can be determined astronomically, then you would have something. 'Determined astronomically'????? You seem to be making the same logical mistake that de Sitter and other did. The plain fact is, no astronomical observation can be believed. It is willusory because of different speeds of the light which make up the instantaneous image seen here. The whole of astronomy has to be re-written. To simulate variable stars curve, the idea is to BEGIN WITH Keplerian orbits and then see if the predicted observations of brightness variation match the observed ones. They DO, in just about every case I have look at. > But we both know why you don't do that [#], which marks you indelibly as > a charlatan and liar. > > [#] It doesn't work. You have a lot to learn Tom. ...but you are incapable of doing that... > Tom Roberts --
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| From | Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2017-04-12 21:44 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <JYOdnbZYkemGe3PFnZ2dnUU7_8zNnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #416070 |
On 4/12/17 4/12/17 5:50 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote: > On 13/04/17 03:36, Tom Roberts wrote: >> If you analyzed some VISIBLE binaries for which the orbital parameters >> can be determined astronomically, then you would have something. > > 'Determined astronomically'????? You seem to be making the same logical mistake > that de Sitter and other did. > The plain fact is, no astronomical observation can be believed. It is willusory > because of different speeds of the light which make up the instantaneous image > seen here. The whole of astronomy has to be re-written. > > To simulate variable stars curve, the idea is to BEGIN WITH Keplerian orbits and > then see if the predicted observations of brightness variation match the > observed ones. They DO, in just about every case I have look at. So show us your analysis of some visible binaries. Show us how your "Willusions" happen, and how they have managed to fool the entire astronomy and physics communities for so long. You must, of course display not only brightness variations but also the observed orbits. Until you do that you have NOTHING. Tom Roberts
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| From | pnalsing@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-04-12 20:16 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <74c1ba24-b3cb-432c-a716-b03882669b2e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #416089 |
On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 7:44:49 PM UTC-7, tjrob137 wrote: > On 4/12/17 4/12/17 5:50 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote: > > On 13/04/17 03:36, Tom Roberts wrote: > >> If you analyzed some VISIBLE binaries for which the orbital parameters > >> can be determined astronomically, then you would have something. > > > > 'Determined astronomically'????? You seem to be making the same logical mistake > > that de Sitter and other did. > > The plain fact is, no astronomical observation can be believed. It is willusory > > because of different speeds of the light which make up the instantaneous image > > seen here. The whole of astronomy has to be re-written. > > > > To simulate variable stars curve, the idea is to BEGIN WITH Keplerian orbits and > > then see if the predicted observations of brightness variation match the > > observed ones. They DO, in just about every case I have look at. > > So show us your analysis of some visible binaries. Show us how your "Willusions" > happen, and how they have managed to fool the entire astronomy and physics > communities for so long. You must, of course display not only brightness > variations but also the observed orbits. > > Until you do that you have NOTHING. I would like to point out the simple fact that Ralph Malcolm Rabbidge has *never* showed any analysis of *any* of his wacky theories. No observations and no experiments. He is basically a bag of hot air and cannot be taken seriously in any scientific discussion. There is no way he can produce what you have requested, and everyone here has known this for a very long time now. \Paul A
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| From | "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> |
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| Date | 2017-04-14 09:50 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <ocp2sr$1sfa$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #416092 |
On 13/04/17 13:16, pnalsing@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 7:44:49 PM UTC-7, tjrob137 wrote: >> orbits. >> >> Until you do that you have NOTHING. > > I would like to point out the simple fact that Ralph Malcolm Rabbidge > has *never* showed any analysis of *any* of his wacky theories. No > observations and no experiments. He is basically a bag of hot air and > cannot be taken seriously in any scientific discussion. > > There is no way he can produce what you have requested, and everyone > here has known this for a very long time now. What do you think this is, moron: http://www.scisite.info/group1.jpg The red and green lines are my c+v simulations. They match perfectly and there are plenty more... > \Paul A > --
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| From | pnalsing@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-04-13 17:20 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <1beaf3f7-dcb2-4c29-aeed-052f48027f16@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #416240 |
On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 4:50:56 PM UTC-7, HGW... DSc. wrote: > On 13/04/17 13:16, pna...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 7:44:49 PM UTC-7, tjrob137 wrote: > > >> orbits. > >> > >> Until you do that you have NOTHING. > > > > I would like to point out the simple fact that Ralph Malcolm Rabbidge > > has *never* showed any analysis of *any* of his wacky theories. No > > observations and no experiments. He is basically a bag of hot air and > > cannot be taken seriously in any scientific discussion. > > > > There is no way he can produce what you have requested, and everyone > > here has known this for a very long time now. > > What do you think this is, moron: http://www.scisite.info/group1.jpg > The red and green lines are my c+v simulations. They match perfectly and > there are plenty more... > > > \Paul A > > > > > -- One day, Ralph, like a bolt of lighting, you will realize that you are a complete laughingstock around here...
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