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Re: non-coordinate basis

From "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: non-coordinate basis
Date 2017-04-19 15:38 +1000
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On 18/04/17 11:53, dancouriann@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, April 17, 2017 at 4:13:37 PM UTC-7, HGW... DSc. wrote:
>> x and x' are points.
>
> No, they are spatial coordinates.

They are coordinate points. They have no size. They are not intervals

>> The TIME in Einstein's bogus transforms are all intervals not
>> points.
>
> No, they are temporal coordinates.

Ditto.


>> My view of TIME is that is completely separate from space and has
>> two or maybe three orthogonal components.
>
> Have you developed a quantitative theory that agrees with experiment?
> Since you say "two or maybe three", I assume you have not.  The idea
> of multiple time coordinates has been explored by many people,
> especially in the context of quantum mechanics, but no one has
> succeeded in making a workable theory of it.

Time must have more than one sub-dimension because it moves at 1 second 
per second.
That is no more unusual that saying the gradiant of a hill is x per ny.

  >> The LTs do not exist in the real world. They exist only in an
>> aether filled universe.
>
> What do you mean when you say "Lorentz transformations don't exist"?

They do not exist in the real world...except maybe in 'fields'.

> They are just simple linear equations relating two sets of
> coordinates, just the Galilean transformations and Euclidean
> transformations and any of infinitely many other one-to-one linear
> transformations.  All of these transformations "exist".  So you must
> be using the phrase "do not exist" to meaning something different.
>
> Perhaps you mean "Inertial coordinate systems are not related by
> Lorentz transformations"?  That would at least be an intelligible
> statement, but empirically false.  Your caveat that they exist only
> in an aether filled universe is also puzzling.  I suspect you mean
> something like "the only physical mechanism I have ever heard of to
> explain why inertial coordinate systems are related by Lorentz
> transformations is based on a universal stationary ether".  That
> would be an intelligible statement, but it can be easily answered by
> giving the ballistic explanation of the Lorentz transformations,
> having nothing to do with ether.

The LTs came from aether theory... Firstly, the light clock idea then to 
explain the MMX null result in order to avoid having to admit to the 
obvious (that light is source dependent).

There is NO aether so the LTs are not relevant.



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                Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-17 07:27 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-18 09:13 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-17 18:53 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-19 15:38 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-17 10:44 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-17 12:31 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-18 09:16 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-18 01:30 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Nocasto Aboyar <oocaao@syeoby.ao> - 2017-04-18 14:33 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-19 15:42 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-12 12:36 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-12 17:15 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-13 08:50 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-12 21:44 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-12 20:16 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-14 09:50 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-13 17:20 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-13 17:28 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-17 11:11 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-16 18:24 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-18 09:19 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-18 01:34 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-17 20:14 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-19 15:48 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-19 09:22 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-19 15:35 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 13:58 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-20 08:19 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-20 11:09 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-20 06:06 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-21 09:44 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-20 10:43 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-20 21:28 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis physics.interuptus@gmail.com - 2017-04-20 14:00 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-21 09:48 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-14 09:45 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-09 13:33 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-10 11:50 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 08:12 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-10 08:42 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-11 09:07 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-10 17:18 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-11 10:54 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-10 18:36 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-12 08:09 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-11 15:44 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-12 10:36 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-12 04:21 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-12 04:56 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-12 21:37 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-13 08:58 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-13 08:58 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 00:35 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-13 09:40 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 15:27 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 06:32 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 09:12 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-13 20:59 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 12:06 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 13:06 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-14 20:57 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 23:12 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 11:36 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-15 13:33 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis Wendi Maddox <ox@awdodww.oe> - 2017-04-15 12:10 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-15 14:14 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis Iwakitok Yuu <yauuu@ikwuo.wk> - 2017-04-15 12:58 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 21:22 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 08:17 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 13:48 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 08:18 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-17 10:10 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 00:10 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-18 21:41 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 23:40 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-19 09:30 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 10:33 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 10:59 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-16 02:35 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 14:39 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 08:41 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-17 10:14 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-17 05:55 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-17 16:13 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Nocasto Aboyar <oocaao@syeoby.ao> - 2017-04-17 15:16 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-17 16:49 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-18 06:25 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis Nocasto Aboyar <oocaao@syeoby.ao> - 2017-04-18 14:25 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 17:06 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis Nocasto Aboyar <oocaao@syeoby.ao> - 2017-04-18 15:24 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 17:57 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis Nocasto Aboyar <oocaao@syeoby.ao> - 2017-04-18 18:13 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-18 21:50 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-19 04:20 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 00:14 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-18 21:55 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 23:37 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 00:55 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-19 09:20 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 10:31 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 22:02 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-20 08:24 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-19 17:56 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-20 11:09 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-21 10:01 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-20 17:32 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-21 10:43 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-21 11:13 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-22 19:30 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 14:19 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-23 09:47 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:30 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-25 09:07 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 01:43 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-26 09:24 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 22:02 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-27 09:26 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-26 22:22 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-27 20:21 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-28 18:27 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 09:41 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-29 10:46 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 13:16 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-29 21:49 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-29 22:58 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-30 10:23 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-01 08:37 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-01 20:08 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-01 17:45 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-01 13:29 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-01 21:31 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-01 23:09 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-02 19:42 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 10:23 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-02 19:47 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 10:42 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-02 20:38 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-03 07:49 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 18:58 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-06 17:43 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-07 10:48 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-07 10:25 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-09 19:37 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-10 21:17 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Jean-Pierre Framboise <nctede@pmdcehr.cc> - 2017-05-10 20:44 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-06 08:59 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-07 10:51 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-07 11:47 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-07 00:40 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 03:17 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-08 10:48 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 13:56 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-06 17:43 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-07 10:56 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-07 10:22 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-07 12:09 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 17:43 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-08 11:00 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-07 21:03 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-08 12:13 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-08 06:14 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 08:23 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-09 19:41 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Lissa Hermes <isussui@aeawwih.es> - 2017-05-09 11:14 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-09 04:28 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-08 09:40 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-09 19:48 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-09 16:56 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-10 17:59 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 10:08 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 07:39 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-10 17:50 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-11 10:23 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-12 02:47 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-11 11:23 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-13 10:23 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-05-13 19:43 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-10 20:50 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-11 10:26 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-10 18:12 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-11 10:56 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-12 02:46 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-13 20:02 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-14 07:55 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-14 10:29 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-05-14 20:16 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-15 13:42 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-16 20:06 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 10:31 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-17 08:24 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 02:38 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-05-17 22:28 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 10:51 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-18 17:39 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-19 09:48 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-17 11:16 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-17 04:05 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-05-17 21:19 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-17 05:26 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-17 05:56 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-17 11:17 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-05-17 22:08 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-17 11:03 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-01 23:00 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 14:07 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 09:38 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-02 19:37 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 10:49 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-03 08:02 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 19:01 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Himère Bezuinig <numunenen@wgngiweig.mc> - 2017-04-30 11:28 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-30 16:04 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 07:52 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-01 13:48 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 09:41 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-02 19:36 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-29 10:33 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-01 10:02 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-30 20:20 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-01 20:21 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-01 04:42 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-01 14:04 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-01 20:57 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-02 19:36 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-03 08:32 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-03 18:20 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 08:10 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-04 19:10 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 10:18 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-01 21:10 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 10:51 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-02 19:52 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 19:12 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-03 04:16 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis Ukabaru Hongetsu <uohio@ugutua.ic> - 2017-05-03 15:36 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 19:16 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Ukabaru Hongetsu <uohio@ugutua.ic> - 2017-05-03 15:43 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 08:18 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 17:24 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 19:22 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-04 04:30 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-05 10:41 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-04 19:14 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 09:39 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis Ukabaru Hongetsu <uohio@ugutua.ic> - 2017-05-03 15:29 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 14:09 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 10:19 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-26 22:07 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-28 18:30 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-28 01:39 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-29 08:52 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-28 16:11 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-01 20:31 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 07:48 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 10:27 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-01 17:54 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 10:56 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 13:54 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 10:54 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 12:55 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 08:14 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 17:23 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 19:13 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 09:38 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-05 10:39 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 08:27 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-06 09:11 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 06:00 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-07 10:57 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 13:17 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-09 19:08 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 07:45 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-09 09:47 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-09 08:45 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis Ubet Hitaosi <suetsu@tooube.ic> - 2017-04-21 17:53 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-22 19:22 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-22 19:28 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis 01405 <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 11:31 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-23 09:49 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis 01405 <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 17:13 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 10:55 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-24 08:48 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis 01405 <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 00:19 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-24 18:34 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-26 22:25 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-28 18:17 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:32 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:31 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-25 09:09 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 01:43 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-26 09:26 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 22:02 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-18 23:02 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 11:13 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 13:49 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 08:49 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-16 11:24 -0500

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