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Electric Potential of Planets and Moons?

Started byHGW <xxx@....>
First post2015-10-16 08:03 +1100
Last post2015-10-17 19:37 +1100
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  Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-16 08:03 +1100
    Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-15 21:38 +0000
      Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-16 20:20 +1100
      Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-10-16 16:49 -0500
        Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-10-16 18:19 -0400
    Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 17:03 -0500
      Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 15:18 -0700
        Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 00:30 +0200
        Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 18:07 -0500
        Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-16 20:48 +1100
          Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 00:53 +0200
            Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-17 19:08 +1100
              Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 10:21 +0200
                Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-17 20:20 +1100
                  Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 11:42 +0200
              Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 10:24 +0200
      Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-16 20:16 +1100
        Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 06:57 -0500
          Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-17 19:24 +1100
            Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 10:30 +0200
              Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 10:34 +0200
                Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-17 20:22 +1100
                  Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 11:54 +0200
                    Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 12:02 +0200
                  Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 08:59 -0500
                    Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-10-19 17:58 -0500
              Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 03:44 -0700
                Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-18 09:08 +1100
            Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 08:57 -0500
              Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-20 09:43 +1100
                Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 18:39 -0500
                  was using HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-20 11:48 +1100
                    Re: was using Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-20 07:53 +0200
                      Re: was using Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-20 08:19 +0200
                        Re: was using Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-20 08:49 +0200
                    Re: was using Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-20 07:41 -0500
                      Re: was using HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-26 09:41 +1100
                        Re: was using Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 10:55 -0500
                          Re: was using HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-27 09:13 +1100
                            Re: was using Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 17:45 -0500
                              Re: was using Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-10-27 00:48 -0500
                                Re: was using HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-27 18:14 +1100
                Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 16:49 -0700
                Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-20 01:52 +0200
                  Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-20 11:50 +1100
                    Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-20 07:55 +0200
                      Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-22 16:43 +1100
                        Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-22 08:04 +0200
                  Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 18:15 -0700
                    Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-20 08:01 +0200
        Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-10-16 16:22 -0500
          Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-16 18:55 -0700
        Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-17 09:40 +0200
          Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 10:07 +0200
            Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-17 12:05 +0200
              Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 12:08 +0200
                Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-17 12:12 +0200
                  Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 12:19 +0200
                  Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 12:28 +0200
                    Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-18 11:36 +0200
                      Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 11:56 +0200
                        Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-18 20:01 +0200
                          Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 23:01 +0200
                          Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 23:08 +0200
                      Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 12:11 +0200
                      Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 12:23 +0200
                        Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-18 23:13 +0200
                          Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 00:37 +0200
                            Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 00:59 +0200
                              Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-19 09:06 +0200
                                Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-19 20:26 +1100
                                  Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 20:10 +0200
                                Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 11:43 +0200
                                  Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-20 09:44 +1100
                                    Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-20 01:53 +0200
                                      Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-20 11:52 +1100
                                      Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Jack Weidner <jackwd@webportal.au> - 2015-10-31 12:04 +0000
          Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-17 20:02 +1100
            Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-17 11:58 +0200
              Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-18 09:19 +1100
                Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 11:07 +0200
                Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 06:41 -0700
                  Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-26 08:12 +1100
                    Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 16:17 -0700
                      Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-27 18:02 +1100
                        Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 02:50 -0700
                          Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc.) - 2015-10-31 05:24 +1100
                Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-18 20:17 +0200
                  Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-19 20:44 +1100
                    Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-20 13:30 +0200
                      Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-22 16:55 +1100
                        Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-22 08:08 +0200
                        Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-22 12:58 +0200
                          Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc.) - 2015-10-23 04:22 +1100
                            Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-22 11:51 -0700
                              Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-23 07:57 +1100
                                Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-22 14:24 -0700
                                  Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc.) - 2015-10-23 21:23 +1100
                                    Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-23 04:49 -0700
                            Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-25 01:52 +0200
                              Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc.) - 2015-10-26 03:25 +1100
                                Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-25 21:36 +0100
                                  Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-26 09:34 +1100
                                    Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-26 09:44 +0100
                                      Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc.) - 2015-10-26 20:09 +1100
                                        Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-26 15:05 +0100
                                          Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-27 09:04 +1100
                                            Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-27 20:15 +0100
                                              Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-10-27 19:33 +0000
                                                Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-10-27 12:45 -0700
                                              Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Günther Huldiberaht <gunhu@allrportos.org> - 2015-10-27 20:22 +0000
                                                Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-28 09:31 +1100
                                                  Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-10-27 21:24 -0500
                                                    Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-28 01:08 -0700
                                                    Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-28 20:53 +1100
                                                  Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-28 09:09 +0100
                                                    Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-28 21:07 +1100
                                                      Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-28 14:37 +0100
                                                        Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc.) - 2015-10-29 04:48 +1100
                                                          Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-28 20:52 +0100
                                                            Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-29 09:18 +1100
                                                Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-28 08:44 +0100
          Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-17 14:14 +0000
            Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 16:30 +0200
              Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-17 14:39 +0000
                Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 16:41 +0200
            Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-18 09:29 +1100
              Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-17 22:55 +0000
                Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-18 11:24 +1100
                  Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-18 15:06 +0000
                    Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-19 20:51 +1100
                      Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Mitch Lacroix <mitch@dont-email.me> - 2015-10-19 16:37 +0000
                        Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 18:50 +0200
                        Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-10-19 17:33 +0000
                          Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Mitch Lacroix <mitch@dont-email.me> - 2015-10-19 21:48 +0000
                          Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-20 09:54 +1100
                            Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 18:40 -0500
                              Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-20 11:59 +1100
                                Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-20 07:45 -0500
                                  Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-22 17:04 +1100
                                    Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 09:22 -0500
                                      Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-27 09:09 +1100
                                        Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-26 15:43 -0700
                                        Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 17:44 -0500
                                          Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-27 18:11 +1100
                                            Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 07:38 -0500
                                              Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-28 08:52 +1100
                                                Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 17:06 -0500
                                                  Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? shuba <tim@sh.uba> - 2015-10-27 22:46 +0000
                                                    Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 08:35 -0500
                                                  Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-28 11:49 +1100
                                                    Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-27 18:45 -0700
                                                      Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-28 21:09 +1100
                                                        Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-28 04:31 -0700
                                                    Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 11:34 -0500
                                                      Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc.) - 2015-10-29 05:05 +1100
                                                        Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-28 12:23 -0700
                                                          Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-29 09:21 +1100
                                                        Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 16:59 -0500
                                                          Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-29 19:47 +1100
                                                            Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 10:06 -0500
                                                              Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc.) - 2015-10-30 04:57 +1100
                                                                Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 13:22 -0500
                                                                  Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-11-01 16:27 +1100
                                                                    Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-01 07:46 -0600
                                                                      Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc.) - 2015-11-02 04:56 +1100
                                                                        Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-01 13:00 -0600
                                                                          Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-11-02 08:20 +1100
                                                                            Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 08:51 -0600
                                                                              Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-11-03 11:28 +1100
                            Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-10-19 18:35 -0700
                            Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-10-20 02:54 +0000
                        Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-20 09:47 +1100
                          Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Scott Finnegan <scofi@NNTPSwitch.org> - 2015-10-19 23:07 +0000
                            Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-20 11:55 +1100
                              Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Scott Finnegan <scofi@NNTPSwitch.org> - 2015-10-20 14:55 +0000
                                Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-20 22:14 +0200
                                  Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? Scott Finnegan <scofi@NNTPSwitch.org> - 2015-10-20 22:07 +0000
    Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 00:53 -0700
      Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-16 20:37 +1100
        Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 17:48 -0700
          Re: Electric Potential of Planets and Moons? HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-17 19:37 +1100

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#368410

FromHGW <xxx@....>
Date2015-10-29 09:18 +1100
Message-ID<49i23bd4eq9a5e7vmr9tesdhbdumqcgvr9@4ax.com>
In reply to#368392
On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 20:52:50 +0100, "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
wrote:

>On 28.10.2015 18:48, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:

>>>
>>> I can understand why you are trying to flee,
>>> but I will not let you off the hook that easily.
>>> I will expect a proper answer in the thread:
>>> "A challenge to Henry Wilson"
>>
>> You are really getting desperate now, eh Paul. I would be too if I proved gold
>> leaf electrometers cannot work.....   :)
>>
>
>So far you have made two attempts to evade the questions in the thread:
>"A challenge to Henry Wilson"

I see you use hte plural in the word 'questions'. You have obviously realisd
that your original question no longer exists.
>
>Will you keep fleeing, or will you actually try to
>give an answer the third time? :-D

I have answered both of your quite dissimilar questions as well as corrcecting
them.

>I expect the former, but maybe you will surprise me!

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#368338

From"Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Date2015-10-28 08:44 +0100
Message-ID<n0puck$sgg$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#368306
On 27.10.2015 21:22, Günther Huldiberaht wrote:
> []

Troll!

plonk

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#367348

FromEuclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org>
Date2015-10-17 14:14 +0000
Message-ID<mvtl43$87e$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#367313
Paul B. Andersen wrote:

> Given a very large flat metal plate with excess positive charge.

A conductor cannot have excess of anything, cretin, neither positive nor 
negative, at any instance of time. That's the whole point with a 
conductor, CONDUCTS, but no excess. To have excess and IMBALANCE you need 
to get close to an insulator or other material.

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#367353

FromPoutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-17 16:30 +0200
Message-ID<mvtlu8$asl$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#367348
Dne 17/10/2015 v 16:14 Euclid Baumann napsal(a):
> Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> 
>> Given a very large flat metal plate with excess positive charge.
> 
> A conductor cannot have excess of anything, cretin, neither positive nor 
> negative, at any instance of time. That's the whole point with a 
> conductor, CONDUCTS, but no excess. To have excess and IMBALANCE you need 
> to get close to an insulator or other material.
> 
If that is true, then feel free to touch any conductor,
as there cannot be any high voltage,
that is causes by excess or deficit of electrons.

-- 
Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )

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#367356

FromEuclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org>
Date2015-10-17 14:39 +0000
Message-ID<mvtmic$bbf$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#367353
Poutnik wrote:

> Dne 17/10/2015 v 16:14 Euclid Baumann napsal(a):
>> Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>> 
>>> Given a very large flat metal plate with excess positive charge.
>> 
>> A conductor cannot have excess of anything, cretin, neither positive
>> nor negative, at any instance of time. That's the whole point with a
>> conductor, CONDUCTS, but no excess. To have excess and IMBALANCE you
>> need to get close to an insulator or other material.
>> 
> If that is true, then feel free to touch any conductor,
> as there cannot be any high voltage,
> that is causes by excess or deficit of electrons.

Another cretin, this time much larger.

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#367357

FromPoutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-17 16:41 +0200
Message-ID<mvtmji$ddt$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#367356
Dne 17/10/2015 v 16:39 Euclid Baumann napsal(a):
> 
> Another cretin, this time much larger.
> 
Your words do not speak for you.

-- 
Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )

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#367390

FromHGW <xxx@....>
Date2015-10-18 09:29 +1100
Message-ID<hri52b9achbh1videvfuifuml6feisev1k@4ax.com>
In reply to#367348
On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 14:14:28 +0000 (UTC), Euclid Baumann
<eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> wrote:

>Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>
>> Given a very large flat metal plate with excess positive charge.
>
>A conductor cannot have excess of anything, cretin, neither positive nor 
>negative, at any instance of time. That's the whole point with a 
>conductor, CONDUCTS, but no excess. To have excess and IMBALANCE you need 
>to get close to an insulator or other material.

Idiot! do you know what a Van de Graaf generator does?

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#367396

FromEuclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org>
Date2015-10-17 22:55 +0000
Message-ID<mvujkr$dct$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#367390
HGW wrote:

> On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 14:14:28 +0000 (UTC), Euclid Baumann
> <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> wrote:
> 
>>Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>>
>>> Given a very large flat metal plate with excess positive charge.
>>
>>A conductor cannot have excess of anything, cretin, neither positive nor
>>negative, at any instance of time. That's the whole point with a
>>conductor, CONDUCTS, but no excess. To have excess and IMBALANCE you
>>need to get close to an insulator or other material.
> 
> Idiot! do you know what a Van de Graaf generator does?

Cretin, it generate a difference in potential?

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#367400

FromHGW <xxx@....>
Date2015-10-18 11:24 +1100
Message-ID<dfp52blbdv3ltra7frmiuspqro9alb5s6g@4ax.com>
In reply to#367396
On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 22:55:24 +0000 (UTC), Euclid Baumann
<eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> wrote:

>HGW wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 14:14:28 +0000 (UTC), Euclid Baumann
>> <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> wrote:
>> 
>>>Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Given a very large flat metal plate with excess positive charge.
>>>
>>>A conductor cannot have excess of anything, cretin, neither positive nor
>>>negative, at any instance of time. That's the whole point with a
>>>conductor, CONDUCTS, but no excess. To have excess and IMBALANCE you
>>>need to get close to an insulator or other material.
>> 
>> Idiot! do you know what a Van de Graaf generator does?
>
>Cretin, it generate a difference in potential?

It does that by physically adding charge of one sign to an object. 
The object ends up with far more of one charge than the opposite one.

I want to find a way to add charge to the whole of the INSIDE of an object, not
just to its surface.

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#367428

FromEuclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org>
Date2015-10-18 15:06 +0000
Message-ID<n00che$oe3$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#367400
HGW wrote:

>>>>A conductor cannot have excess of anything, cretin, neither positive
>>>>nor negative, at any instance of time. That's the whole point with a
>>>>conductor, CONDUCTS, but no excess. To have excess and IMBALANCE you
>>>>need to get close to an insulator or other material.
>>> 
>>> Idiot! do you know what a Van de Graaf generator does?
>>
>>Cretin, it generate a difference in potential?
> 
> It does that by physically adding charge of one sign to an object. The
> object ends up with far more of one charge than the opposite one.
> I want to find a way to add charge to the whole of the INSIDE of an
> object, not just to its surface.

That generator is nothing but a capacitor, idiot. Hence it must be using a 
dielectric or an INSULATOR to separate that crap. I already said the word 
INSULATOR, is where the charge separation takes place. A conductor / metal 
cannot possibly SEPARATE charges.

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#367475

FromHGW <xxx@....>
Date2015-10-19 20:51 +1100
Message-ID<ese92bld4eejjm9bemr791mdvvaj5lk6du@4ax.com>
In reply to#367428
On Sun, 18 Oct 2015 15:06:23 +0000 (UTC), Euclid Baumann
<eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> wrote:

>HGW wrote:
>
>>>>>A conductor cannot have excess of anything, cretin, neither positive
>>>>>nor negative, at any instance of time. That's the whole point with a
>>>>>conductor, CONDUCTS, but no excess. To have excess and IMBALANCE you
>>>>>need to get close to an insulator or other material.
>>>> 
>>>> Idiot! do you know what a Van de Graaf generator does?
>>>
>>>Cretin, it generate a difference in potential?
>> 
>> It does that by physically adding charge of one sign to an object. The
>> object ends up with far more of one charge than the opposite one.
>> I want to find a way to add charge to the whole of the INSIDE of an
>> object, not just to its surface.
>
>That generator is nothing but a capacitor, idiot. Hence it must be using a 
>dielectric or an INSULATOR to separate that crap. I already said the word 
>INSULATOR, is where the charge separation takes place. A conductor / metal 
>cannot possibly SEPARATE charges.

Of course it can't. Who said it could?

The charged objects must be electrically isolated by an insulator.

Insulated spherical objects can be pumped with electrons by transfering high
volftage charges to a collector inside the sphere where there is near zero
potential according to Gauss's law. That is how the sphere ends up with a
surplus of -ve charge. Since the potential is zero inside the sphere, all the
surplus charge ends up on the outer surface. 

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#367506

FromMitch Lacroix <mitch@dont-email.me>
Date2015-10-19 16:37 +0000
Message-ID<n03684$pab$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#367475
HGW wrote:

> Insulated spherical objects can be pumped with electrons by transfering
> high volftage charges to a collector inside the sphere where there is
> near zero potential according to Gauss's law. That is how the sphere
> ends up with a surplus of -ve charge. Since the potential is zero inside
> the sphere, all the surplus charge ends up on the outer surface.

No it cannot. You just said that it cannot. If you push an electron into a
conductor, another electron must pop out of that conductor. This is how
metallic conductors work, sort of queue LILO, if you wish. You cannot
charge a piece of conducting metal, idiot. Do do that you need a 
dielectric or a misalignment somewhere in the system. A conduction metal 
is homogeneous and in balance, always.

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#367509

FromPoutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-19 18:50 +0200
Message-ID<n036tf$k09$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#367506
On 10/19/2015 06:37 PM, Mitch Lacroix wrote:
> 
> No it cannot. You just said that it cannot. If you push an electron into a
> conductor, another electron must pop out of that conductor. This is how
> metallic conductors work, sort of queue LILO, if you wish. You cannot
> charge a piece of conducting metal, idiot. Do do that you need a 
> dielectric or a misalignment somewhere in the system. A conduction metal 
> is homogeneous and in balance, always.
> 

O sancta simplicitas!

-- 
Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )

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#367514

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2015-10-19 17:33 +0000
Message-ID<n039gf$4q9$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#367506
The nymshifting troll posing as Mitch Lacroix <mitch@dont-email.me> writes:

>HGW wrote:

>> Insulated spherical objects can be pumped with electrons by transfering
>> high volftage charges to a collector inside the sphere where there is
>> near zero potential according to Gauss's law. That is how the sphere
>> ends up with a surplus of -ve charge. Since the potential is zero inside
>> the sphere, all the surplus charge ends up on the outer surface.

>No it cannot. You just said that it cannot. If you push an electron into a
>conductor, another electron must pop out of that conductor. This is how
>metallic conductors work, sort of queue LILO, if you wish. You cannot
>charge a piece of conducting metal, idiot. Do do that you need a 
>dielectric or a misalignment somewhere in the system. A conduction metal 
>is homogeneous and in balance, always.

No, Ralph is correct (for once!).  Ralph describes how a van de Graff 
generator works.  Charge is transferred to the inside of an insulated,
hollow metallic sphere where Gauss' Law produces a zero field.  The 
charges on the sphere rearrange themselves to be on the surface where they
can produce a potential of hundreds of thousands or millions of volts.

Now go change your nym again.

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#367535

FromMitch Lacroix <mitch@dont-email.me>
Date2015-10-19 21:48 +0000
Message-ID<n03of1$5th$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#367514
Michael Moroney wrote:

>>No it cannot. You just said that it cannot. If you push an electron into
>>a conductor, another electron must pop out of that conductor. This is
>>how metallic conductors work, sort of queue LILO, if you wish. You
>>cannot charge a piece of conducting metal, idiot. Do do that you need a
>>dielectric or a misalignment somewhere in the system. A conduction metal
>>is homogeneous and in balance, always.
> 
> No, Ralph is correct (for once!).  Ralph describes how a van de Graff
> generator works.  Charge is transferred to the inside of an insulated,
> hollow metallic sphere where Gauss' Law produces a zero field.  The
> charges on the sphere rearrange themselves to be on the surface where
> they can produce a potential of hundreds of thousands or millions of
> volts.

Hey moron, you are not right. There are no charges to be arranged over 
whatever metal you say. That's not the job of a conductor. But the 
conductor conducts the potential taken from the surface of the present 
insulator/dielectric, then, in case you are too close and at a much lower 
potential, you may get hurt. This is how these thing works in Nature and 
in Physics, moron. Nice to meet you too. The metal is there just to 
conduct the potential.

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#367549

FromHGW <xxx@....>
Date2015-10-20 09:54 +1100
Message-ID<mnsa2b5umdpehgpkh1feikatbpt6kd4u1r@4ax.com>
In reply to#367514
On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 17:33:03 +0000 (UTC), moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com
(Michael Moroney) wrote:

>The nymshifting troll posing as Mitch Lacroix <mitch@dont-email.me> writes:
>
>>HGW wrote:

>>No it cannot. You just said that it cannot. If you push an electron into a
>>conductor, another electron must pop out of that conductor. This is how
>>metallic conductors work, sort of queue LILO, if you wish. You cannot
>>charge a piece of conducting metal, idiot. Do do that you need a 
>>dielectric or a misalignment somewhere in the system. A conduction metal 
>>is homogeneous and in balance, always.
>
>No, Henry is correct (for once!).  Henry describes how a van de Graff 
>generator works.  Charge is transferred to the inside of an insulated,
>hollow metallic sphere where Gauss' Law produces a zero field.  The 
>charges on the sphere rearrange themselves to be on the surface where they
>can produce a potential of hundreds of thousands or millions of volts.

Moron-y is wrong again. Henry is ALWAYS right.

No, why can't a solid be created in which a surplus charge exists throughout
and not just on the surface.? Have you heard of ball lightning? Ionized
air...and it doesn't explode.

 I think a doped crystal actually has a charge bias throughout. CMIIW
---but is it an insulator or conductor.

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#367558

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-19 18:40 -0500
Message-ID<n03v14$l20$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#367549
On 10/19/2015 5:54 PM, HGW wrote:
> No, why can't a solid be created in which a surplus charge exists throughout
> and not just on the surface.? Have you heard of ball lightning? Ionized
> air...and it doesn't explode.

You can. But not in a conductor.
Gauss's law.

You can do it fine in an insulator.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#367567

FromHGW <xxx@....>
Date2015-10-20 11:59 +1100
Message-ID<n74b2bprn2dfgt9bkrse0poih3mpncvtu2@4ax.com>
In reply to#367558
On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 18:40:21 -0500, Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 10/19/2015 5:54 PM, HGW wrote:
>> No, why can't a solid be created in which a surplus charge exists throughout
>> and not just on the surface.? Have you heard of ball lightning? Ionized
>> air...and it doesn't explode.
>
>You can. But not in a conductor.
>Gauss's law.
>
>You can do it fine in an insulator.

That's what I am saying.  And it should be theoretically possible to make such
a thing with a very high residual charge so that it should exert a high
repulsive force on a similar object.

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#367609

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-20 07:45 -0500
Message-ID<n05d0g$llb$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#367567
On 10/19/2015 7:59 PM, HGW wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 18:40:21 -0500, Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10/19/2015 5:54 PM, HGW wrote:
>>> No, why can't a solid be created in which a surplus charge exists throughout
>>> and not just on the surface.? Have you heard of ball lightning? Ionized
>>> air...and it doesn't explode.
>>
>> You can. But not in a conductor.
>> Gauss's law.
>>
>> You can do it fine in an insulator.
>
> That's what I am saying.  And it should be theoretically possible to make such
> a thing with a very high residual charge so that it should exert a high
> repulsive force on a similar object.
>

Of course. You can do that with two ping pong balls.
Tape a long length of thread to two ping pong balls and suspend them 
both by draping the thread over someone's finger. Now rub the two ping 
pong balls on a dog to charge them up. You'll see them repel each other, 
so that the thread forms the two sides of an isosceles triangle.

This is third grade science. Where were you that year?

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#367761

FromHGW <xxx@....>
Date2015-10-22 17:04 +1100
Message-ID<bpug2blm012tg7ahec7vhkjr84bo6oe6mh@4ax.com>
In reply to#367609
On Tue, 20 Oct 2015 07:45:07 -0500, Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 10/19/2015 7:59 PM, HGW wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 18:40:21 -0500, Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/19/2015 5:54 PM, HGW wrote:
>>>> No, why can't a solid be created in which a surplus charge exists throughout
>>>> and not just on the surface.? Have you heard of ball lightning? Ionized
>>>> air...and it doesn't explode.
>>>
>>> You can. But not in a conductor.
>>> Gauss's law.
>>>
>>> You can do it fine in an insulator.
>>
>> That's what I am saying.  And it should be theoretically possible to make such
>> a thing with a very high residual charge so that it should exert a high
>> repulsive force on a similar object.
>>
>
>Of course. You can do that with two ping pong balls.
>Tape a long length of thread to two ping pong balls and suspend them 
>both by draping the thread over someone's finger. Now rub the two ping 
>pong balls on a dog to charge them up. You'll see them repel each other, 
>so that the thread forms the two sides of an isosceles triangle.
>
>This is third grade science. Where were you that year?

Pith balls were used once. So were gold leaves.

Bodkin, the amount of force betwen the ping pong balls is very small. I want to
produce huge forces by for instance doping a large lump of crystal so that,
every tenth atom is short of one electron. Because it is a crystal, the forces
should be enough to keep the holes in place. In that way a massive amount of
charge could be stored in a small volume. 

In fact, why don't two silicon chips repel each other?

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