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| Started by | Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2023-07-31 16:42 -0700 |
| Last post | 2023-08-01 21:33 +0000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 127 — 28 participants |
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There is no material length contraction Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-07-31 16:42 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-08-01 10:41 +1000
Re: There is no material length contraction patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-07-31 18:15 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-07-31 18:38 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-08-01 12:10 +1000
Re: There is no material length contraction Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-31 21:47 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-07-31 22:04 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-08-03 15:52 +1000
Re: There is no material length contraction Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-03 09:50 +0000
Re: There is no material length contraction Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-03 02:55 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-03 09:57 +0000
Re: There is no material length contraction Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-03 03:09 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-03 07:01 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-03 10:30 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-03 14:01 -0400
Re: There is no material length contraction Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-03 12:42 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Rob Bibler <rreb@bieillii.ir> - 2023-08-03 20:02 +0000
Re: There is no material length contraction Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-03 14:29 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-03 22:37 -0400
Re: There is no material length contraction Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-03 20:28 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-04 04:11 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-04 13:34 -0400
Re: There is no material length contraction "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-04 10:41 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-04 23:31 -0400
Re: There is no material length contraction "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-04 21:21 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-05 00:50 -0400
Re: There is no material length contraction "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-05 10:57 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-05 14:38 -0400
Re: There is no material length contraction "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-06 10:11 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-06 21:00 +0000
Re: There is no material length contraction Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-07 11:34 -0400
Re: There is no material length contraction Rondell Verre <eror@vedllele.ee> - 2023-08-05 20:10 +0000
Re: There is no material length contraction Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-04 10:52 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-04 12:58 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-05 14:43 -0400
Re: There is no material length contraction Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-05 21:36 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-06 14:22 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-06 15:00 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-06 17:53 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-07 11:39 -0400
Reciprocal dilation of internal chronotropies (SR) Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-07 15:53 +0000
Re: Reciprocal dilation of internal chronotropies (SR) Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-07 19:24 +0200
Re: Reciprocal dilation of internal chronotropies (SR) Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-07 18:32 +0000
Re: Reciprocal dilation of internal chronotropies (SR) Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-07 22:43 +0200
Re: Reciprocal dilation of internal chronotropies (SR) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-07 12:29 -0500
Re: Reciprocal dilation of internal chronotropies (SR) Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-07 16:45 -0400
Re: There is no material length contraction Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-07 11:01 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-07 16:48 -0400
Re: There is no material length contraction Nat Vaikule <nukv@vektnaaa.nv> - 2023-08-07 21:25 +0000
Re: There is no material length contraction Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-07 15:34 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Jarrell Martirosov <ajrr@riilromm.aa> - 2023-08-08 10:03 +0000
Re: There is no material length contraction whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-07 18:01 -0500
Re: There is no material length contraction Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-10 18:53 -0400
Re: There is no material length contraction Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-10 19:07 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-10 13:20 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-10 18:58 -0400
Re: There is no material length contraction Ronaldo Amerhanov <hera@aeladhrd.ma> - 2023-08-12 20:57 +0000
Re: There is no material length contraction Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 06:07 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 09:06 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-14 16:21 +0000
Re: There is no material length contraction "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 09:39 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Ozzie Jakushov <ezhu@ijjhhouv.az> - 2023-08-04 21:35 +0000
Re: There is no material length contraction Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-04 15:58 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Beraldo Hapy <lhap@aaloyohe.pl> - 2023-08-05 03:00 +0000
Re: There is no material length contraction Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-08 05:30 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Dalton Dubman <nlat@tualtadd.db> - 2023-08-08 14:02 +0000
Re: There is no material length contraction Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-08 10:45 -0400
Re: There is no material length contraction Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-09 06:48 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-09 06:58 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-09 12:31 -0400
Re: There is no material length contraction Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-10 08:38 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-10 11:56 -0400
Re: There is no material length contraction Kaosayn Shakhbazyan <nazs@aoonaaoo.ah> - 2023-08-10 16:30 +0000
Re: There is no material length contraction Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-31 22:12 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-08-03 16:04 +1000
Re: There is no material length contraction Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-03 00:19 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-08-03 19:06 +1000
Re: There is no material length contraction Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-03 02:53 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-08-04 08:03 +1000
Re: There is no material length contraction Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-03 20:23 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-04 13:22 +0000
Re: There is no material length contraction patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-08-03 01:21 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-08-03 19:10 +1000
Re: There is no material length contraction Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-03 09:56 +0000
Re: There is no material length contraction patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-08-03 08:57 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-03 16:13 +0000
Re: There is no material length contraction patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-08-03 09:24 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-03 20:22 +0200
Re: There is no material length contraction Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-03 17:28 +0000
Re: There is no material length contraction patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-08-03 10:57 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-01 04:25 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-01 09:08 -0400
Re: There is no material length contraction Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-01 06:14 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-01 07:40 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-01 10:30 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Shkelqim Jadrennikov <meem@qnoeeooq.ds> - 2023-08-01 20:49 +0000
Re: There is no material length contraction Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-01 22:57 -0400
Re: There is no material length contraction Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-03 06:43 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-03 14:11 -0400
Re: There is no material length contraction Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-03 11:38 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Darling Vavravsky <rlrg@kakkdvyv.lv> - 2023-08-01 20:33 +0000
Re: There is no material length contraction Chaney Charnolusky <ycck@sarhhnkn.ca> - 2023-08-01 20:59 +0000
Re: There is no material length contraction Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-08-02 08:33 +1000
Re: There is no material length contraction Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-01 23:09 +0000
Re: There is no material length contraction Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-08-02 09:15 +1000
Re: There is no material length contraction Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-02 10:17 +0000
Re: There is no material length contraction Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-02 03:23 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-02 11:47 +0000
Re: There is no material length contraction Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-02 05:12 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-01 16:40 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-01 16:51 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-08-02 10:57 +1000
Re: There is no material length contraction Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-01 18:26 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-01 23:04 -0400
Re: There is no material length contraction Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-01 21:58 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-01 21:59 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-01 23:00 -0400
Re: There is no material length contraction Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-03 11:53 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-03 15:01 -0400
Re: There is no material length contraction Moody Vallah <mahv@ohoymldo.lv> - 2023-08-03 19:41 +0000
Re: There is no material length contraction Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-03 13:00 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction James Dzhunkovsky <uskv@mdjjsnue.ze> - 2023-08-03 19:23 +0000
Re: There is no material length contraction nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-01 11:07 +0200
Re: There is no material length contraction JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-07-31 17:46 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-07-31 18:40 -0700
Re: There is no material length contraction Lamont Bakhmutov <mktk@tomhmtmm.ml> - 2023-08-01 21:10 +0000
Re: There is no material length contraction Thad Mokrinsky <aonk@yoitaito.rm> - 2023-08-01 21:33 +0000
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| From | "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-14 09:39 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <c6d112d7-8b7c-474d-a44b-45f6856f057en@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #617674 |
On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 9:21:46 AM UTC-7, Richard Hachel wrote: > Le 14/08/2023 à 18:06, "mitchr...@gmail.com" a écrit : > > Where would length go to...? How is there then a smaller space > > in a larger space? No. It has never been measured to happen > > and has never belonged in theory... Einstein needed to see it. > > Negative Gamma myth... or "no length contraction" is real instead. > Approach telescopes are made to magnify observed objects. > > But if you hold these glasses upside down, everything suddenly seems much > smaller. > > Jean and Paul aren't actually shorter, and I don't wonder, "Where did > their length go?" > > I observe things according to an appearance, that's all. > > What you have to understand is that our universe is not an absolute 4D > block. There are appearances in all this, and contractions, expansions, as > in a carnival at the stand of distorting glasses. > > A train passing in the distance, transversely to me, > will seem to me to be going slower than it is going. > > Vo=Vr/sqrt(1+Vr²/c²) > > It will also look shorter than it is: L'=L.sqrt(1-Vo²/c²) > > That we can also write L'=L/sqrt(1+Vr²/c²) > > But all this is only observation from my position and my relative speed in > relation to the observed facts. > > I see with immense sadness that no one is able to understand these things > (and even the best elements of spr). > > R.H. In the universe how many frames can you use for comparison? The universe is full of frames... so which is to be used to determine speed It shows relativity instead of accuracy gives different results that can't be used together or separate.
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| From | Ozzie Jakushov <ezhu@ijjhhouv.az> |
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| Date | 2023-08-04 21:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <uajqvg$1q3i2$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #616792 |
Volney wrote: >> stupid Mike, what does the following equation mean to you? >> 1 second in frame A= 1/gamma second in frame B > > It means Ken Seto doesn't understand relativity. > The correct relationship us that A will measure B's clock as running > slow by a factor of gamma. And B will measure A's clock as running slow > by a factor of gamma, but its own clock ticks at 1 second per second. nevermind, amazing what these criminals are doing in america. 𝗔𝘀𝗵𝗹𝗲𝘆_𝗕𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗻_𝗖𝗼𝗻𝗳𝗶𝗿𝗺𝘀_𝗗𝗮𝗱_𝗝𝗼𝗲_‘𝗥𝗲𝗽𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱𝗹𝘆’_𝗦𝗲𝘅𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆_𝗔𝗯𝘂𝘀𝗲𝗱_𝗛𝗲𝗿_𝗮𝘀_𝗮_𝗬𝗼𝘂𝗻𝗴_𝗖𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗱 Bombshell audio of Joe Biden’s daughter Ashley Biden has been released, in which the first daughter desperately scrambles to get hold of her lost diary, and finally admits that the mainstream media and intelligence community […] https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/ashley-biden-confirms-dad-joe-repeatedly-sexually-abused-her-as-a-young-child/ 𝗞𝗹𝗮𝘂𝘀_𝗦𝗰𝗵𝘄𝗮𝗯’𝘀_𝗗𝗮𝘂𝗴𝗵𝘁𝗲𝗿_𝗧𝗵𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘀_𝗛𝘂𝗺𝗮𝗻𝗶𝘁𝘆:_‘𝗣𝗲𝗿𝗺𝗮𝗻𝗲𝗻𝘁_𝗟𝗼𝗰𝗸𝗱𝗼𝘄𝗻𝘀_𝗖𝗼𝗺𝗶𝗻𝗴__𝗪𝗵𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿_𝗬𝗼𝘂_𝗟𝗶𝗸𝗲_𝗜𝘁_𝗢𝗿_𝗡𝗼𝘁’ The daughter of World Economic Forum founder Klaus Schwab has emerged from the shadows and issued a chilling threat against humanity. According to Nicole Schwab, the global elite are preparing to roll out permanent “climate […] https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/klaus-schwabs-daughter-threatens-humanity-permanent-lockdowns-coming-whether-you-like-it-or-not/ 𝗛𝗼𝘀𝗽𝗶𝘁𝗮𝗹_𝗔𝘀𝗸𝗲𝗱_𝗪𝗶𝗱𝗼𝘄_𝗧𝗼_𝗗𝗼𝗻𝗮𝘁𝗲_𝗢𝗿𝗴𝗮𝗻𝘀_𝗢𝗳_𝗛𝘂𝘀𝗯𝗮𝗻𝗱_𝗪𝗵𝗼_𝗪𝗮𝘀_𝗗𝗲𝗻𝗶𝗲𝗱_𝗧𝗿𝗮𝗻𝘀𝗽𝗹𝗮𝗻𝘁_𝗙𝗼𝗿_𝗕𝗲𝗶𝗻𝗴_𝗨𝗻𝘃𝗮𝘅𝘅𝗲𝗱 Garnet Harper a 35 year old father of five died from kidney disease in May after he was denied a transplant because he was unvaccinated. His widow Meghan Harper says she was brazenly approached about […] https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/hospital-asked-widow-to-donate-organs-of-husband-who-was-denied-transplant-for-being-unvaxxed/ 𝗣𝗳𝗶𝘇𝗲𝗿_𝗨𝗻𝘃𝗲𝗶𝗹𝘀_𝗡𝗲𝘄_𝗖𝗮𝗿𝗱𝗶𝗼𝘃𝗮𝘀𝗰𝘂𝗹𝗮𝗿_𝗗𝗿𝘂𝗴𝘀_𝗧𝗼_𝗧𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁_‘𝗦𝘂𝗱𝗱𝗲𝗻’_𝗦𝗽𝗶𝗸𝗲_𝗶𝗻_𝗛𝗲𝗮𝗿𝘁_𝗣𝗿𝗼𝗯𝗹𝗲𝗺𝘀 Big Pharma giant Pfizer is set to rake in billions in profits on new cardiovascular drugs to treat the ‘sudden’ spike in heart problems around the globe. Pfizer has announced it is expanding into medications […] https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/pfizer-unveils-new-cardiovascular-drugs-to-treat-sudden-spike-in-heart-problems/
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| From | Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-04 15:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1d336000-103c-4370-8fb0-f8dc090709ffn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #616822 |
On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 2:35:49 PM UTC-7, Ozzie Jakushov wrote: > nevermind, amazing what these criminals are doing in america. > > 𝗔𝘀𝗵𝗹𝗲𝘆_𝗕𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗻_𝗖𝗼𝗻𝗳𝗶𝗿𝗺𝘀_𝗗𝗮𝗱_𝗝𝗼𝗲_‘𝗥𝗲𝗽𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱𝗹𝘆’_𝗦𝗲𝘅𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆_𝗔𝗯𝘂𝘀𝗲𝗱_𝗛𝗲𝗿_𝗮𝘀_𝗮_𝗬𝗼𝘂𝗻𝗴_𝗖𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗱 > Bombshell audio of Joe Biden’s daughter Ashley Biden has been released, in > which the first daughter desperately scrambles to get hold of her lost > diary, and finally admits that the mainstream media and intelligence > community […] > https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/ashley-biden-confirms-dad-joe-repeatedly-sexually-abused-her-as-a-young-child/ > > 𝗞𝗹𝗮𝘂𝘀_𝗦𝗰𝗵𝘄𝗮𝗯’𝘀_𝗗𝗮𝘂𝗴𝗵𝘁𝗲𝗿_𝗧𝗵𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘀_𝗛𝘂𝗺𝗮𝗻𝗶𝘁𝘆:_‘𝗣𝗲𝗿𝗺𝗮𝗻𝗲𝗻𝘁_𝗟𝗼𝗰𝗸𝗱𝗼𝘄𝗻𝘀_𝗖𝗼𝗺𝗶𝗻𝗴__𝗪𝗵𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿_𝗬𝗼𝘂_𝗟𝗶𝗸𝗲_𝗜𝘁_𝗢𝗿_𝗡𝗼𝘁’ > The daughter of World Economic Forum founder Klaus Schwab has emerged from > the shadows and issued a chilling threat against humanity. According to > Nicole Schwab, the global elite are preparing to roll out permanent > “climate […] > https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/klaus-schwabs-daughter-threatens-humanity-permanent-lockdowns-coming-whether-you-like-it-or-not/ > > 𝗛𝗼𝘀𝗽𝗶𝘁𝗮𝗹_𝗔𝘀𝗸𝗲𝗱_𝗪𝗶𝗱𝗼𝘄_𝗧𝗼_𝗗𝗼𝗻𝗮𝘁𝗲_𝗢𝗿𝗴𝗮𝗻𝘀_𝗢𝗳_𝗛𝘂𝘀𝗯𝗮𝗻𝗱_𝗪𝗵𝗼_𝗪𝗮𝘀_𝗗𝗲𝗻𝗶𝗲𝗱_𝗧𝗿𝗮𝗻𝘀𝗽𝗹𝗮𝗻𝘁_𝗙𝗼𝗿_𝗕𝗲𝗶𝗻𝗴_𝗨𝗻𝘃𝗮𝘅𝘅𝗲𝗱 > Garnet Harper a 35 year old father of five died from kidney disease in May > after he was denied a transplant because he was unvaccinated. His widow > Meghan Harper says she was brazenly approached about […] > https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/hospital-asked-widow-to-donate-organs-of-husband-who-was-denied-transplant-for-being-unvaxxed/ > > 𝗣𝗳𝗶𝘇𝗲𝗿_𝗨𝗻𝘃𝗲𝗶𝗹𝘀_𝗡𝗲𝘄_𝗖𝗮𝗿𝗱𝗶𝗼𝘃𝗮𝘀𝗰𝘂𝗹𝗮𝗿_𝗗𝗿𝘂𝗴𝘀_𝗧𝗼_𝗧𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁_‘𝗦𝘂𝗱𝗱𝗲𝗻’_𝗦𝗽𝗶𝗸𝗲_𝗶𝗻_𝗛𝗲𝗮𝗿𝘁_𝗣𝗿𝗼𝗯𝗹𝗲𝗺𝘀 > Big Pharma giant Pfizer is set to rake in billions in profits on new > cardiovascular drugs to treat the ‘sudden’ spike in heart problems around > the globe. Pfizer has announced it is expanding into medications […] > https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/pfizer-unveils-new-cardiovascular-drugs-to-treat-sudden-spike-in-heart-problems/ Your source is garbage... https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/news-punch/ "Overall, we rate The People’s Voice a Questionable source based on extreme right-wing bias and promotion of tin foil hat conspiracies. This website has zero credibility due to the routine publishing of fake news." Get a life!
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| From | Beraldo Hapy <lhap@aaloyohe.pl> |
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| Date | 2023-08-05 03:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <uakdvg$1rph3$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #616827 |
Paul Alsing wrote: >> nevermind, amazing what these criminals are doing in america. >> >> 𝗔𝘀𝗵𝗹𝗲𝘆_𝗕𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗻_𝗖𝗼𝗻𝗳𝗶𝗿𝗺𝘀_𝗗𝗮𝗱_𝗝𝗼𝗲_‘𝗥𝗲𝗽𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱𝗹𝘆’_𝗦𝗲𝘅𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆_𝗔𝗯𝘂𝘀𝗲𝗱_𝗛𝗲𝗿_𝗮𝘀_𝗮_𝗬𝗼𝘂𝗻𝗴_𝗖𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗱 >> Bombshell audio of Joe Biden’s daughter Ashley Biden has been released, >> in which the first daughter desperately scrambles to get hold of her >> lost diary, and finally admits that the mainstream media and >> intelligence community […] >> https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/ashley-biden-confirms-dad-joe-repeatedly-sexually-abused-her-as-a-young-child/ >> >> 𝗞𝗹𝗮𝘂𝘀_𝗦𝗰𝗵𝘄𝗮𝗯’𝘀_𝗗𝗮𝘂𝗴𝗵𝘁𝗲𝗿_𝗧𝗵𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘀_𝗛𝘂𝗺𝗮𝗻𝗶𝘁𝘆:_‘𝗣𝗲𝗿𝗺𝗮𝗻𝗲𝗻𝘁_𝗟𝗼𝗰𝗸𝗱𝗼𝘄𝗻𝘀_𝗖𝗼𝗺𝗶𝗻𝗴__𝗪𝗵𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿_𝗬𝗼𝘂_𝗟𝗶𝗸𝗲_𝗜𝘁_𝗢𝗿_𝗡𝗼𝘁’ >> The daughter of World Economic Forum founder Klaus Schwab has emerged >> from the shadows and issued a chilling threat against humanity. >> According to Nicole Schwab, the global elite are preparing to roll out >> permanent “climate […] >> https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/klaus-schwabs-daughter-threatens-humanity-permanent-lockdowns-coming-whether-you-like-it-or-not/ >> >> 𝗛𝗼𝘀𝗽𝗶𝘁𝗮𝗹_𝗔𝘀𝗸𝗲𝗱_𝗪𝗶𝗱𝗼𝘄_𝗧𝗼_𝗗𝗼𝗻𝗮𝘁𝗲_𝗢𝗿𝗴𝗮𝗻𝘀_𝗢𝗳_𝗛𝘂𝘀𝗯𝗮𝗻𝗱_𝗪𝗵𝗼_𝗪𝗮𝘀_𝗗𝗲𝗻𝗶𝗲𝗱_𝗧𝗿𝗮𝗻𝘀𝗽𝗹𝗮𝗻𝘁_𝗙𝗼𝗿_𝗕𝗲𝗶𝗻𝗴_𝗨𝗻𝘃𝗮𝘅𝘅𝗲𝗱 >> Garnet Harper a 35 year old father of five died from kidney disease in >> May after he was denied a transplant because he was unvaccinated. His >> widow Meghan Harper says she was brazenly approached about […] >> https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/hospital-asked-widow-to-donate-organs-of-husband-who-was-denied-transplant-for-being-unvaxxed/ >> >> 𝗣𝗳𝗶𝘇𝗲𝗿_𝗨𝗻𝘃𝗲𝗶𝗹𝘀_𝗡𝗲𝘄_𝗖𝗮𝗿𝗱𝗶𝗼𝘃𝗮𝘀𝗰𝘂𝗹𝗮𝗿_𝗗𝗿𝘂𝗴𝘀_𝗧𝗼_𝗧𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁_‘𝗦𝘂𝗱𝗱𝗲𝗻’_𝗦𝗽𝗶𝗸𝗲_𝗶𝗻_𝗛𝗲𝗮𝗿𝘁_𝗣𝗿𝗼𝗯𝗹𝗲𝗺𝘀 >> Big Pharma giant Pfizer is set to rake in billions in profits on new >> cardiovascular drugs to treat the ‘sudden’ spike in heart problems >> around the globe. Pfizer has announced it is expanding into medications >> […] >> https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/pfizer-unveils-new-cardiovascular-drugs-to-treat-sudden-spike-in-heart-problems/ > > Your source i̶s̶ g̶a̶r̶b̶a̶g̶e̶... h̶t̶t̶p̶s̶://m̶e̶d̶i̶a̶b̶i̶a̶s̶f̶a̶c̶t̶c̶h̶e̶c̶k̶.c̶o̶m̶/n̶e̶w̶s̶-p̶u̶n̶c̶h̶/ > "Overall, we rate The People’s Voice a Q̶u̶e̶s̶t̶i̶o̶n̶a̶b̶l̶e̶ s̶o̶u̶r̶c̶e̶ b̶a̶s̶e̶d̶ o̶n̶ > e̶x̶t̶r̶e̶m̶e̶ r̶i̶g̶h̶t̶-w̶i̶n̶g̶ b̶i̶a̶s̶ a̶n̶d̶ p̶r̶o̶m̶o̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ o̶f̶ t̶i̶n̶ f̶o̶i̶l̶ h̶a̶t̶ c̶o̶n̶s̶p̶i̶r̶a̶c̶i̶e̶s̶. T̶h̶i̶s̶ > w̶e̶b̶s̶i̶t̶e̶ h̶a̶s̶ z̶e̶r̶o̶ c̶r̶e̶d̶i̶b̶i̶l̶i̶t̶y̶ d̶u̶e̶ t̶o̶ t̶h̶e̶ r̶o̶u̶t̶i̶n̶e̶ p̶u̶b̶l̶i̶s̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ o̶f̶ f̶a̶k̶e̶ > n̶e̶w̶s̶." are you watching "𝗳𝗮𝗰𝘁𝗰𝗵𝗲𝗰𝗸𝘀", you stupid baboon. This fucking cretin doesn't know 𝘄𝗵𝗮𝘁_𝗮_𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲_𝗶𝘀, brainwashed by the mainstream politics and media. He thinks the site 𝗶𝘀_𝘁𝗵𝗲_"𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲". you putrid excrement. There is nothing 𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁-𝘄𝗶𝗻𝗴 on this site. Look at the data, not the site. 𝗧𝗵𝗲_𝘀𝗶𝘁𝗲_𝗶𝘀_𝗮_𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗺. It's the WEF a right-wing, the bidona, Pfizer, bil gaytes, fauci etc? 𝗬𝗼𝘂_𝗶𝗻𝗱𝗼𝗹𝗲𝗻𝘁_𝘀𝗮𝗰𝗸_𝗼𝗳_𝘀𝗵𝗶𝘁.
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| From | Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-08 05:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <69d726c7-90f0-4ddf-bc54-2bca326b6257n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #616697 |
On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:01:07 PM UTC-4, Volney wrote: > On 8/3/2023 10:01 AM, Ken Seto wrote: > > On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 1:52:55 AM UTC-4, Sylvia Else wrote: > > >> If observer A measures observer B's velocity relative to A to have > >> magnitude |v|, then observer B measures observer A's velocity relative > >> to B also to have magnitude |v|. > > > > No, That's a wrong assumption. > It is not an assumption, Stupid Ken. It is what SR derives from its two > postulates. Stupid Mike, so the SR postulates are not assertions??? > > A and B each measures a different [V[ > A and B measure the same v but in opposite directions. They have the > same magnitude |v|. > > cbecause their clock seconds have a different TIME content. > > You assumed wrongly that a clock second is an absolute unit of time......it is not. > No, Stupid Ken, time is measured in seconds which is defined as the time > of 9192631770 Cs transition cycles.
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| From | Dalton Dubman <nlat@tualtadd.db> |
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| Date | 2023-08-08 14:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <uatht6$3dkq0$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #617097 |
Ken Seto wrote: > On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:01:07 PM UTC-4, Volney wrote: >> It is not an assumption, Stupid Ken. It is what SR derives from its two >> postulates. > > Stupid Mike, so the SR postulates are not assertions??? yet another fucking immigrant of america, not knowing what a postulate is. They bombed your country with two (2) atomic bombs, you forgot about, and then proceed a terrorist attack bombing sea submerged energy pipelines, likely using nato "exercises", together with fucking norway and so on. 𝗕𝗔𝗟𝗧𝗢𝗣𝗦22 (aka 𝗻𝗮𝘇𝗶_𝗻𝗮𝘁𝗼 𝘽𝙖𝙡𝙩𝙞𝙘_𝙊𝙥𝙚𝙧𝙖𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣𝙨_𝙮𝙚𝙖𝙧_2022) These countries will exercise 𝗮_𝗺𝘆𝗿𝗶𝗮𝗱_𝗼𝗳_𝗰𝗮𝗽𝗮𝗯𝗶𝗹𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗲𝘀, demonstrating the 𝗶𝗻𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗻𝘁_𝗳𝗹𝗲𝘅𝗶𝗯𝗶𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆_𝗼𝗳_𝗺𝗮𝗿𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗺𝗲_𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗰𝗲𝘀. Exercise scenarios include amphibious, gunnery, 𝗮𝗻𝘁𝗶-𝘀𝘂𝗯𝗺𝗮𝗿𝗶𝗻𝗲, air defense, and 𝗺𝗶𝗻𝗲_𝗰𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲_𝗼𝗽𝗲𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀, as well as 𝗲𝘅𝗽𝗹𝗼𝘀𝗶𝘃𝗲_𝗼𝗿𝗱𝗻𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲_𝗱𝗶𝘀𝗽𝗼𝘀𝗮𝗹, 𝘂𝗻𝗺𝗮𝗻𝗻𝗲𝗱_𝘂𝗻𝗱𝗲𝗿𝘄𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗿 and 𝘀𝘂𝗿𝗳𝗮𝗰𝗲_𝘃𝗲𝗵𝗶𝗰𝗹𝗲_𝗲𝘅𝗲𝗿𝗰𝗶𝘀𝗲𝘀, and medical responses. https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2023/06/baltops-2023-exercise-kicks- off-in-the-baltic-sea/ 𝐋𝐆𝐁𝐓𝐐+ 𝐫𝐮𝐧𝐧𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐁𝐢𝐝𝐚𝐧'𝐬 𝐰𝐚𝐫 𝐢𝐧 𝐮𝐤𝐮𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐚 https://r%74.com/ru%73%73ia/580996-russians-not-human-ukraine-transgender/ "and that the key difference 𝐛𝐞𝐭𝐰𝐞𝐞𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐦 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐔𝐤𝐫𝐚𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐚𝐧𝐬 is “humanity.” - tell that to civilians 𝐛𝐮𝐫𝐧𝐞𝐝 𝐚𝐥𝐢𝐯𝐞 𝐢𝐧 𝐎𝐝𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐚 𝐢𝐧 2014 𝐚𝐧𝐝 9 𝐲𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐟 𝐃𝐨𝐧𝐛𝐚𝐬𝐬 𝐛𝐨𝐦𝐛𝐚𝐫𝐝𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐬
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| From | Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2023-08-08 10:45 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <uatkev$3eccp$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #617097 |
On 8/8/2023 8:30 AM, Ken Seto wrote: > On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:01:07 PM UTC-4, Volney wrote: >> On 8/3/2023 10:01 AM, Ken Seto wrote: >>> On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 1:52:55 AM UTC-4, Sylvia Else wrote: >> >>>> If observer A measures observer B's velocity relative to A to have >>>> magnitude |v|, then observer B measures observer A's velocity relative >>>> to B also to have magnitude |v|. >>> >>> No, That's a wrong assumption. >> It is not an assumption, Stupid Ken. It is what SR derives from its two >> postulates. > > Stupid Mike, so the SR postulates are not assertions??? Stupid Ken, I said mutual time dilation is not an assumption, as it was derived from the postulates. Do try to keep up.
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| From | Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-09 06:48 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <af497e34-5d3a-4a1a-98ca-bebbc65a79dan@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #617109 |
On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 10:45:54 AM UTC-4, Volney wrote: > On 8/8/2023 8:30 AM, Ken Seto wrote: > > On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:01:07 PM UTC-4, Volney wrote: > >> On 8/3/2023 10:01 AM, Ken Seto wrote: > >>> On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 1:52:55 AM UTC-4, Sylvia Else wrote: > >> > >>>> If observer A measures observer B's velocity relative to A to have > >>>> magnitude |v|, then observer B measures observer A's velocity relative > >>>> to B also to have magnitude |v|. > >>> > >>> No, That's a wrong assumption. > > >> It is not an assumption, Stupid Ken. It is what SR derives from its two > >> postulates. > > > > Stupid Mike, so the SR postulates are not assertions??? > Stupid Ken, I said mutual time dilation is not an assumption, as it was > derived from the postulates. Do try to keep up. Stupid Mike, so if SR postulates are assumptions and mutual time dilation is not an assumption???? Gee you are stupid.
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| From | Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-09 06:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b6fabdf2-8d18-4fe4-a6bb-3c935909a2a0n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #617179 |
On Wednesday, 9 August 2023 at 15:48:14 UTC+2, Ken Seto wrote: > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 10:45:54 AM UTC-4, Volney wrote: > > On 8/8/2023 8:30 AM, Ken Seto wrote: > > > On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:01:07 PM UTC-4, Volney wrote: > > >> On 8/3/2023 10:01 AM, Ken Seto wrote: > > >>> On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 1:52:55 AM UTC-4, Sylvia Else wrote: > > >> > > >>>> If observer A measures observer B's velocity relative to A to have > > >>>> magnitude |v|, then observer B measures observer A's velocity relative > > >>>> to B also to have magnitude |v|. > > >>> > > >>> No, That's a wrong assumption. > > > > >> It is not an assumption, Stupid Ken. It is what SR derives from its two > > >> postulates. > > > > > > Stupid Mike, so the SR postulates are not assertions??? > > Stupid Ken, I said mutual time dilation is not an assumption, as it was > > derived from the postulates. Do try to keep up. > Stupid Mike, so if SR postulates are assumptions and mutual time dilation is not an assumption???? It is not, but samely worthless.
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| From | Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2023-08-09 12:31 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ub0f0b$gbu$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #617179 |
On 8/9/2023 9:48 AM, Ken Seto wrote: > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 10:45:54 AM UTC-4, Volney wrote: >> On 8/8/2023 8:30 AM, Ken Seto wrote: >>> On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:01:07 PM UTC-4, Volney wrote: >>>> On 8/3/2023 10:01 AM, Ken Seto wrote: >>>>> On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 1:52:55 AM UTC-4, Sylvia Else wrote: >>>> >>>>>> If observer A measures observer B's velocity relative to A to have >>>>>> magnitude |v|, then observer B measures observer A's velocity relative >>>>>> to B also to have magnitude |v|. >>>>> >>>>> No, That's a wrong assumption. >> >>>> It is not an assumption, Stupid Ken. It is what SR derives from its two >>>> postulates. >>> >>> Stupid Mike, so the SR postulates are not assertions??? >> Stupid Ken, I said mutual time dilation is not an assumption, as it was >> derived from the postulates. Do try to keep up. > > Stupid Mike, so if SR postulates are assumptions and mutual time dilation is not an assumption???? It is derived from the postulates, not assumed, Stupid Ken.
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| From | Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-10 08:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9978767f-b008-4459-9b4a-d24c37e69df7n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #617187 |
On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 12:31:10 PM UTC-4, Volney wrote: > On 8/9/2023 9:48 AM, Ken Seto wrote: > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 10:45:54 AM UTC-4, Volney wrote: > >> On 8/8/2023 8:30 AM, Ken Seto wrote: > >>> On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:01:07 PM UTC-4, Volney wrote: > >>>> On 8/3/2023 10:01 AM, Ken Seto wrote: > >>>>> On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 1:52:55 AM UTC-4, Sylvia Else wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>> If observer A measures observer B's velocity relative to A to have > >>>>>> magnitude |v|, then observer B measures observer A's velocity relative > >>>>>> to B also to have magnitude |v|. > >>>>> > >>>>> No, That's a wrong assumption. > >> > >>>> It is not an assumption, Stupid Ken. It is what SR derives from its two > >>>> postulates. > >>> > >>> Stupid Mike, so the SR postulates are not assertions??? > > >> Stupid Ken, I said mutual time dilation is not an assumption, as it was > >> derived from the postulates. Do try to keep up. > > > > Stupid Mike, so if SR postulates are assumptions and mutual time dilation is not an assumption???? > It is deion rived from the postulates, not assumed, Stupid Ken. Ha....so the postulates are assumptons and mutual time dilation is derivedved from t,he postulates and yet mutual time dilation is not an assumption????
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| From | Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2023-08-10 11:56 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ub31b6$du6b$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #617284 |
On 8/10/2023 11:38 AM, Ken Seto wrote: > On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 12:31:10 PM UTC-4, Volney wrote: >> On 8/9/2023 9:48 AM, Ken Seto wrote: >>> On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 10:45:54 AM UTC-4, Volney wrote: >>>> On 8/8/2023 8:30 AM, Ken Seto wrote: >>>>> On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:01:07 PM UTC-4, Volney wrote: >>>>>> On 8/3/2023 10:01 AM, Ken Seto wrote: >>>>>>> On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 1:52:55 AM UTC-4, Sylvia Else wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> If observer A measures observer B's velocity relative to A to have >>>>>>>> magnitude |v|, then observer B measures observer A's velocity relative >>>>>>>> to B also to have magnitude |v|. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No, That's a wrong assumption. >>>> >>>>>> It is not an assumption, Stupid Ken. It is what SR derives from its two >>>>>> postulates. >>>>> >>>>> Stupid Mike, so the SR postulates are not assertions??? >> >>>> Stupid Ken, I said mutual time dilation is not an assumption, as it was >>>> derived from the postulates. Do try to keep up. >>> >>> Stupid Mike, so if SR postulates are assumptions and mutual time dilation is not an assumption???? >> It is deion rived from the postulates, not assumed, Stupid Ken. > > Ha....so the postulates are assumptons and mutual time dilation is derivedved from t,he postulates and yet mutual time dilation is not an assumption???? You're drunk again, Stupid Ken. First, postulates are more than assumptions. Second, mutual time dilation was derived from the two postulates. It was not an assumption or even another postulate, it was *derived*.
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| From | Kaosayn Shakhbazyan <nazs@aoonaaoo.ah> |
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| Date | 2023-08-10 16:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ub33a8$e3v6$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #617287 |
Volney wrote: >> Ha....so the postulates are assumptons and mutual time dilation is >> derivedved from t,he postulates and yet mutual time dilation is not >> an assumption???? > > You're drunk again, Stupid Ken. > First, postulates are more than assumptions. Second, mutual time > dilation was derived from the two postulates. It was not an assumption > or even another postulate, it was *derived*. amazing, these two immigrants of america don't know the language, whereas here 𝗮𝘀𝘀𝘂𝗺𝗽𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 is more than 𝗽𝗼𝘀𝘁𝘂𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗲. Exactly the opposite, my friend. The assumption is 𝗮𝗻_𝗮𝗹𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗱𝘆_𝗼𝗰𝗰𝘂𝗿𝗿𝗲𝗱_𝗳𝗮𝗰𝘁, when a postulate 𝗶𝘀_𝘆𝗲𝘁_𝗻𝗼𝘁. 𝗙𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲_𝘃𝗶𝗼𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱_𝗡𝗶𝗴𝗲𝗿𝗶𝗲𝗻_𝗮𝗶𝗿𝘀𝗽𝗮𝗰𝗲_–_𝗺𝗶𝗹𝗶𝘁𝗮𝗿𝘆_𝗿𝘂𝗹𝗲𝗿𝘀 https://r%74.com/africa/581064-niger-france-violated-airspace/ I never know the french are so motherfuckers. They used to be Latins. I knew they have 𝗮𝗻_𝗶𝗹𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹_𝗵𝗼𝗺𝗼_𝗽𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗻𝘁, sleeping in bed with his grandmother, and forcing people 𝘁𝗼_𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲_𝗹𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗮𝗹_𝘀𝗲𝗿𝘂𝗺_𝗵𝗲_𝗰𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘀_"𝘃𝗮𝗰𝗰𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀". But to steal steal from Africa, with military hardware, expensive resources, year 2023, 𝗶𝘁'𝘀_𝗯𝗲𝘆𝗼𝗻𝗱_𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗶𝗲𝘃𝗲. They want to steal, they don't want to pay. 𝗧𝗵𝗲_𝗙𝗮𝗹𝗹_𝗼𝗳_𝗖𝗔𝗕𝗔𝗟_-_25 https://bi%74%63hute.com/video/3gMuYdwTjtQJ "the French military aircraft entered Nigerien airspace under an agreement with the country’s previous government." That's all we needed to read to know the French's mindset. Do you expect a country to respect your sovereignty if you allow them to establish military bases in your country? Can Niger have a military base in France or US? France can't legally fly anything into the closed air space of another country. What blatant criminal sophistry.
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| From | Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-07-31 22:12 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <71185454-ac1d-4278-b8a7-5f797c963391n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #616456 |
On Tuesday, 1 August 2023 at 04:10:22 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote: > On 01-Aug-23 11:38 am, Ken Seto wrote: > > On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 8:41:31 PM UTC-4, Sylvia Else wrote: > >> On 01-Aug-23 9:42 am, Ken Seto wrote: > >>> Einstein invented length contraction to make his Postulate P2 constant light speed in all frames viable. > >>> Here's how: > >>> 1. The material length of a meter stick remain constant in all frames. > >>> 2. Einstein invented length contraction without specifyin what is > >>> contracting. > >>> This allowed him to claim that Length contraction along with time dilation > >>> to give him constant light speed in all frames. > >>> The real reason why the speed of light is not constant in all frames is as follows: > >>> 1. The material length of a meter stick remains constant in all frames. > >>> 2. The light-path-length (LPL)...the length that light must travel to cover the material length of a meter stick .... > >>> 3. The LPL of the observer's meter stick is 1meter ...the same as its material > >>> length.. > >>> 4. The LPL of a meter moving wrt the observer is predicted to be 1/gamma or gamma. > >>> 5. Einstein assumed that the LPL of the moving meter stick only 1/gamma. and thus all meter stick moving wrt the observer will have LPL 1/gamma. This is wrong. The LPL of a moving meter can be gamma. This means that SR is only half of the story. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> Indeed, there is no material length contraction. Einstein never said > >> there was. > > > > So what did Einstein said what is contracting? The LPL as I said above? > >> > >> Sylvia. > Relativity is a theoretical model. It tells you what to expect if you do > measurements. That's it. Is it, lady? So, if anyone asked your insdane guru: "an observer moving with c/2 wrt solar system is going to measure a day. What result do you expect in the name of your insane physics?" The answer would be...?
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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> |
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| Date | 2023-08-03 16:04 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <kj0ub3F95vvU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #616473 |
On 01-Aug-23 3:12 pm, Maciej Wozniak wrote: > On Tuesday, 1 August 2023 at 04:10:22 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote: >> On 01-Aug-23 11:38 am, Ken Seto wrote: >>> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 8:41:31 PM UTC-4, Sylvia Else wrote: >>>> On 01-Aug-23 9:42 am, Ken Seto wrote: >>>>> Einstein invented length contraction to make his Postulate P2 constant light speed in all frames viable. >>>>> Here's how: >>>>> 1. The material length of a meter stick remain constant in all frames. >>>>> 2. Einstein invented length contraction without specifyin what is >>>>> contracting. >>>>> This allowed him to claim that Length contraction along with time dilation >>>>> to give him constant light speed in all frames. >>>>> The real reason why the speed of light is not constant in all frames is as follows: >>>>> 1. The material length of a meter stick remains constant in all frames. >>>>> 2. The light-path-length (LPL)...the length that light must travel to cover the material length of a meter stick .... >>>>> 3. The LPL of the observer's meter stick is 1meter ...the same as its material >>>>> length.. >>>>> 4. The LPL of a meter moving wrt the observer is predicted to be 1/gamma or gamma. >>>>> 5. Einstein assumed that the LPL of the moving meter stick only 1/gamma. and thus all meter stick moving wrt the observer will have LPL 1/gamma. This is wrong. The LPL of a moving meter can be gamma. This means that SR is only half of the story. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Indeed, there is no material length contraction. Einstein never said >>>> there was. >>> >>> So what did Einstein said what is contracting? The LPL as I said above? >>>> >>>> Sylvia. >> Relativity is a theoretical model. It tells you what to expect if you do >> measurements. That's it. > > Is it, lady? > So, if anyone asked your insdane guru: "an observer > moving with c/2 wrt solar system is going to measure > a day. What result do you expect in the name of your > insane physics?" > The answer would be...? Such questions are ill-framed. The observer is moving, so their distance away from the Earth will vary over the course of day, and the time light takes to travel from the Earth to the observer will also vary. So what is an Earth day from the perspective of the observer? Is it the time it takes for the observer to see the Earth rotate once through a powerful telescope? Perhaps you want it to be the time it takes to rotate in the observer's coordinate system, but that has no physical reality, because it's not something that can be measured, even in principle. It represents just part of the mathematical model that the observer can use to calculate the expected length of the day as seen by the observer though their telescope. Sylvia.
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| From | Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-03 00:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fab4ea58-68ab-47cd-a675-165d5b5aac8fn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #616648 |
On Thursday, 3 August 2023 at 08:04:23 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote: > On 01-Aug-23 3:12 pm, Maciej Wozniak wrote: > > On Tuesday, 1 August 2023 at 04:10:22 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote: > >> On 01-Aug-23 11:38 am, Ken Seto wrote: > >>> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 8:41:31 PM UTC-4, Sylvia Else wrote: > >>>> On 01-Aug-23 9:42 am, Ken Seto wrote: > >>>>> Einstein invented length contraction to make his Postulate P2 constant light speed in all frames viable. > >>>>> Here's how: > >>>>> 1. The material length of a meter stick remain constant in all frames. > >>>>> 2. Einstein invented length contraction without specifyin what is > >>>>> contracting. > >>>>> This allowed him to claim that Length contraction along with time dilation > >>>>> to give him constant light speed in all frames. > >>>>> The real reason why the speed of light is not constant in all frames is as follows: > >>>>> 1. The material length of a meter stick remains constant in all frames. > >>>>> 2. The light-path-length (LPL)...the length that light must travel to cover the material length of a meter stick .... > >>>>> 3. The LPL of the observer's meter stick is 1meter ...the same as its material > >>>>> length.. > >>>>> 4. The LPL of a meter moving wrt the observer is predicted to be 1/gamma or gamma. > >>>>> 5. Einstein assumed that the LPL of the moving meter stick only 1/gamma. and thus all meter stick moving wrt the observer will have LPL 1/gamma. This is wrong. The LPL of a moving meter can be gamma. This means that SR is only half of the story. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> Indeed, there is no material length contraction. Einstein never said > >>>> there was. > >>> > >>> So what did Einstein said what is contracting? The LPL as I said above? > >>>> > >>>> Sylvia. > >> Relativity is a theoretical model. It tells you what to expect if you do > >> measurements. That's it. > > > > Is it, lady? > > So, if anyone asked your insdane guru: "an observer > > moving with c/2 wrt solar system is going to measure > > a day. What result do you expect in the name of your > > insane physics?" > > The answer would be...? > > Such questions are ill-framed. Isn't Your relativity about predicting the results of measurements? > The observer is moving, so their distance > away from the Earth will vary over the course of day, and the time light > takes to travel from the Earth to the observer will also vary. It doesn't prevent him from measuring the intervals between the ticks of a clock on Earth, does it? Why can't he measure a day?
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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> |
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| Date | 2023-08-03 19:06 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <kj190uFb2gpU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #616653 |
On 03-Aug-23 5:19 pm, Maciej Wozniak wrote: > On Thursday, 3 August 2023 at 08:04:23 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote: >> On 01-Aug-23 3:12 pm, Maciej Wozniak wrote: >>> On Tuesday, 1 August 2023 at 04:10:22 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote: >>>> On 01-Aug-23 11:38 am, Ken Seto wrote: >>>>> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 8:41:31 PM UTC-4, Sylvia Else wrote: >>>>>> On 01-Aug-23 9:42 am, Ken Seto wrote: >>>>>>> Einstein invented length contraction to make his Postulate P2 constant light speed in all frames viable. >>>>>>> Here's how: >>>>>>> 1. The material length of a meter stick remain constant in all frames. >>>>>>> 2. Einstein invented length contraction without specifyin what is >>>>>>> contracting. >>>>>>> This allowed him to claim that Length contraction along with time dilation >>>>>>> to give him constant light speed in all frames. >>>>>>> The real reason why the speed of light is not constant in all frames is as follows: >>>>>>> 1. The material length of a meter stick remains constant in all frames. >>>>>>> 2. The light-path-length (LPL)...the length that light must travel to cover the material length of a meter stick .... >>>>>>> 3. The LPL of the observer's meter stick is 1meter ...the same as its material >>>>>>> length.. >>>>>>> 4. The LPL of a meter moving wrt the observer is predicted to be 1/gamma or gamma. >>>>>>> 5. Einstein assumed that the LPL of the moving meter stick only 1/gamma. and thus all meter stick moving wrt the observer will have LPL 1/gamma. This is wrong. The LPL of a moving meter can be gamma. This means that SR is only half of the story. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Indeed, there is no material length contraction. Einstein never said >>>>>> there was. >>>>> >>>>> So what did Einstein said what is contracting? The LPL as I said above? >>>>>> >>>>>> Sylvia. >>>> Relativity is a theoretical model. It tells you what to expect if you do >>>> measurements. That's it. >>> >>> Is it, lady? >>> So, if anyone asked your insdane guru: "an observer >>> moving with c/2 wrt solar system is going to measure >>> a day. What result do you expect in the name of your >>> insane physics?" >>> The answer would be...? >> >> Such questions are ill-framed. > > Isn't Your relativity about predicting the results of measurements? > >> The observer is moving, so their distance >> away from the Earth will vary over the course of day, and the time light >> takes to travel from the Earth to the observer will also vary. > > It doesn't prevent him from measuring the intervals > between the ticks of a clock on Earth, does it? Why > can't he measure a day? Measuring the interval between the ticks of a clock presents exactly the same issues. Sylvia.
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| From | Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-03 02:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8d425e8b-9472-4010-b01d-8565d44006bfn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #616655 |
On Thursday, 3 August 2023 at 11:06:42 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote: > On 03-Aug-23 5:19 pm, Maciej Wozniak wrote: > > On Thursday, 3 August 2023 at 08:04:23 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote: > >> On 01-Aug-23 3:12 pm, Maciej Wozniak wrote: > >>> On Tuesday, 1 August 2023 at 04:10:22 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote: > >>>> On 01-Aug-23 11:38 am, Ken Seto wrote: > >>>>> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 8:41:31 PM UTC-4, Sylvia Else wrote: > >>>>>> On 01-Aug-23 9:42 am, Ken Seto wrote: > >>>>>>> Einstein invented length contraction to make his Postulate P2 constant light speed in all frames viable. > >>>>>>> Here's how: > >>>>>>> 1. The material length of a meter stick remain constant in all frames. > >>>>>>> 2. Einstein invented length contraction without specifyin what is > >>>>>>> contracting. > >>>>>>> This allowed him to claim that Length contraction along with time dilation > >>>>>>> to give him constant light speed in all frames. > >>>>>>> The real reason why the speed of light is not constant in all frames is as follows: > >>>>>>> 1. The material length of a meter stick remains constant in all frames. > >>>>>>> 2. The light-path-length (LPL)...the length that light must travel to cover the material length of a meter stick .... > >>>>>>> 3. The LPL of the observer's meter stick is 1meter ...the same as its material > >>>>>>> length.. > >>>>>>> 4. The LPL of a meter moving wrt the observer is predicted to be 1/gamma or gamma. > >>>>>>> 5. Einstein assumed that the LPL of the moving meter stick only 1/gamma. and thus all meter stick moving wrt the observer will have LPL 1/gamma. This is wrong. The LPL of a moving meter can be gamma. This means that SR is only half of the story. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> Indeed, there is no material length contraction. Einstein never said > >>>>>> there was. > >>>>> > >>>>> So what did Einstein said what is contracting? The LPL as I said above? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sylvia. > >>>> Relativity is a theoretical model. It tells you what to expect if you do > >>>> measurements. That's it. > >>> > >>> Is it, lady? > >>> So, if anyone asked your insdane guru: "an observer > >>> moving with c/2 wrt solar system is going to measure > >>> a day. What result do you expect in the name of your > >>> insane physics?" > >>> The answer would be...? > >> > >> Such questions are ill-framed. > > > > Isn't Your relativity about predicting the results of measurements? > > > >> The observer is moving, so their distance > >> away from the Earth will vary over the course of day, and the time light > >> takes to travel from the Earth to the observer will also vary. > > > > It doesn't prevent him from measuring the intervals > > between the ticks of a clock on Earth, does it? Why > > can't he measure a day? > Measuring the interval between the ticks of a clock presents exactly the > same issues. And, well, Your relativity doesn't care about them at all and is brilliantly predicting the results. Isn't it? So, if anyone asked your insdane guru: "an observer moving with c/2 wrt solar system is going to measure a day. What result do you expect in the name of your insane physics?" The answer would be...? Would it be "I can't predict the result of this measurement, because of some issues I'm not giving a damn elsewhere"?
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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> |
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| Date | 2023-08-04 08:03 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <kj2mi2Fi24sU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #616658 |
On 03-Aug-23 7:53 pm, Maciej Wozniak wrote: > On Thursday, 3 August 2023 at 11:06:42 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote: >> On 03-Aug-23 5:19 pm, Maciej Wozniak wrote: >>> On Thursday, 3 August 2023 at 08:04:23 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote: >>>> On 01-Aug-23 3:12 pm, Maciej Wozniak wrote: >>>>> On Tuesday, 1 August 2023 at 04:10:22 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote: >>>>>> On 01-Aug-23 11:38 am, Ken Seto wrote: >>>>>>> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 8:41:31 PM UTC-4, Sylvia Else wrote: >>>>>>>> On 01-Aug-23 9:42 am, Ken Seto wrote: >>>>>>>>> Einstein invented length contraction to make his Postulate P2 constant light speed in all frames viable. >>>>>>>>> Here's how: >>>>>>>>> 1. The material length of a meter stick remain constant in all frames. >>>>>>>>> 2. Einstein invented length contraction without specifyin what is >>>>>>>>> contracting. >>>>>>>>> This allowed him to claim that Length contraction along with time dilation >>>>>>>>> to give him constant light speed in all frames. >>>>>>>>> The real reason why the speed of light is not constant in all frames is as follows: >>>>>>>>> 1. The material length of a meter stick remains constant in all frames. >>>>>>>>> 2. The light-path-length (LPL)...the length that light must travel to cover the material length of a meter stick .... >>>>>>>>> 3. The LPL of the observer's meter stick is 1meter ...the same as its material >>>>>>>>> length.. >>>>>>>>> 4. The LPL of a meter moving wrt the observer is predicted to be 1/gamma or gamma. >>>>>>>>> 5. Einstein assumed that the LPL of the moving meter stick only 1/gamma. and thus all meter stick moving wrt the observer will have LPL 1/gamma. This is wrong. The LPL of a moving meter can be gamma. This means that SR is only half of the story. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Indeed, there is no material length contraction. Einstein never said >>>>>>>> there was. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So what did Einstein said what is contracting? The LPL as I said above? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sylvia. >>>>>> Relativity is a theoretical model. It tells you what to expect if you do >>>>>> measurements. That's it. >>>>> >>>>> Is it, lady? >>>>> So, if anyone asked your insdane guru: "an observer >>>>> moving with c/2 wrt solar system is going to measure >>>>> a day. What result do you expect in the name of your >>>>> insane physics?" >>>>> The answer would be...? >>>> >>>> Such questions are ill-framed. >>> >>> Isn't Your relativity about predicting the results of measurements? >>> >>>> The observer is moving, so their distance >>>> away from the Earth will vary over the course of day, and the time light >>>> takes to travel from the Earth to the observer will also vary. >>> >>> It doesn't prevent him from measuring the intervals >>> between the ticks of a clock on Earth, does it? Why >>> can't he measure a day? >> Measuring the interval between the ticks of a clock presents exactly the >> same issues. > > And, well, Your relativity doesn't care about them at > all and is brilliantly predicting the results. Isn't it? It predicts the result of observing the ticks through a telescope, and measuring the interval between them. The relativistic Doppler effect formula gives the answer. Sylvia.
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| From | Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-03 20:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1eebe174-b4a8-4d71-8f4e-84023ff910f7n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #616739 |
On Friday, 4 August 2023 at 00:03:50 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote: > On 03-Aug-23 7:53 pm, Maciej Wozniak wrote: > > On Thursday, 3 August 2023 at 11:06:42 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote: > >> On 03-Aug-23 5:19 pm, Maciej Wozniak wrote: > >>> On Thursday, 3 August 2023 at 08:04:23 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote: > >>>> On 01-Aug-23 3:12 pm, Maciej Wozniak wrote: > >>>>> On Tuesday, 1 August 2023 at 04:10:22 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote: > >>>>>> On 01-Aug-23 11:38 am, Ken Seto wrote: > >>>>>>> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 8:41:31 PM UTC-4, Sylvia Else wrote: > >>>>>>>> On 01-Aug-23 9:42 am, Ken Seto wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Einstein invented length contraction to make his Postulate P2 constant light speed in all frames viable. > >>>>>>>>> Here's how: > >>>>>>>>> 1. The material length of a meter stick remain constant in all frames. > >>>>>>>>> 2. Einstein invented length contraction without specifyin what is > >>>>>>>>> contracting. > >>>>>>>>> This allowed him to claim that Length contraction along with time dilation > >>>>>>>>> to give him constant light speed in all frames. > >>>>>>>>> The real reason why the speed of light is not constant in all frames is as follows: > >>>>>>>>> 1. The material length of a meter stick remains constant in all frames. > >>>>>>>>> 2. The light-path-length (LPL)...the length that light must travel to cover the material length of a meter stick .... > >>>>>>>>> 3. The LPL of the observer's meter stick is 1meter ...the same as its material > >>>>>>>>> length.. > >>>>>>>>> 4. The LPL of a meter moving wrt the observer is predicted to be 1/gamma or gamma. > >>>>>>>>> 5. Einstein assumed that the LPL of the moving meter stick only 1/gamma. and thus all meter stick moving wrt the observer will have LPL 1/gamma. This is wrong. The LPL of a moving meter can be gamma. This means that SR is only half of the story. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Indeed, there is no material length contraction. Einstein never said > >>>>>>>> there was. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So what did Einstein said what is contracting? The LPL as I said above? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sylvia. > >>>>>> Relativity is a theoretical model. It tells you what to expect if you do > >>>>>> measurements. That's it. > >>>>> > >>>>> Is it, lady? > >>>>> So, if anyone asked your insdane guru: "an observer > >>>>> moving with c/2 wrt solar system is going to measure > >>>>> a day. What result do you expect in the name of your > >>>>> insane physics?" > >>>>> The answer would be...? > >>>> > >>>> Such questions are ill-framed. > >>> > >>> Isn't Your relativity about predicting the results of measurements? > >>> > >>>> The observer is moving, so their distance > >>>> away from the Earth will vary over the course of day, and the time light > >>>> takes to travel from the Earth to the observer will also vary. > >>> > >>> It doesn't prevent him from measuring the intervals > >>> between the ticks of a clock on Earth, does it? Why > >>> can't he measure a day? > >> Measuring the interval between the ticks of a clock presents exactly the > >> same issues. > > > > And, well, Your relativity doesn't care about them at > > all and is brilliantly predicting the results. Isn't it? > It predicts the result of observing And the answer of Your insane guru for my question would be...?
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