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A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity.

Started byLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
First post2023-07-06 11:05 -0700
Last post2023-07-07 20:50 -0700
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  A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 11:05 -0700
    Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 11:09 -0700
    Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 11:14 -0700
      Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 11:17 -0700
        Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2023-07-06 11:32 -0700
          Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-06 11:51 -0700
        Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 12:19 -0700
          Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-07-07 15:26 +1000
            Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 01:14 -0700
            Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@alphapou.net> - 2023-07-07 09:33 +0000
              Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-07-07 14:57 +0200
                Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@alphapou.net> - 2023-07-07 13:33 +0000
                Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 07:30 -0700
                  Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-07-07 16:34 +0200
                    Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 07:51 -0700
                      Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-07-07 16:52 +0200
                        Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 07:57 -0700
                          Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-07-07 17:04 +0200
              Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2023-07-07 16:31 +0300
              Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 11:02 -0700
              Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-07-08 12:09 +1000
            Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Lou <noelturntive@live.co.uk> - 2023-07-08 01:15 -0700
      Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-07-06 21:45 +0200
        Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 12:47 -0700
        Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 12:48 -0700
          Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-06 13:16 -0700
            Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 13:17 -0700
          Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-06 15:17 -0500
            Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 13:32 -0700
              Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-06 16:03 -0500
            Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 13:37 -0700
              Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-06 16:06 -0500
    Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-06 11:59 -0700
    Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-07-06 23:07 +0200
      Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 14:46 -0700
        Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-06 21:07 -0400
          Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 20:11 -0700
            Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-07-07 10:14 +0200
              Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 01:40 -0700
              Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 10:57 -0700
                Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-07-07 22:12 +0200
            Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-07 12:43 -0400
              Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Kalaki Kalacos <oiis@nnnhgsoi.nd> - 2023-07-07 17:55 +0000
              Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 11:16 -0700
                Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-07-08 12:28 +1000
                  Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 21:10 -0700
                  Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-08 10:15 -0700
                    Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2023-07-09 11:59 +0300
                  Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-07-09 15:09 +0000
                    Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 18:15 +0200
              Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-07-07 22:13 +0200
                Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 14:22 -0700
              Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Duston Pantelakos <eats@sonknkdt.tt> - 2023-07-07 21:15 +0000
          Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 20:20 -0700
            Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-07-08 13:45 +1000
          Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-06 22:54 -0500
            Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 20:59 -0700
            Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 01:16 -0700
          Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 21:13 -0700
            Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-07 10:10 -0500
              Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 09:28 -0700
              Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 11:09 -0700
                Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@alphapou.net> - 2023-07-07 18:30 +0000
                  Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@alphapou.net> - 2023-07-07 18:33 +0000
                    Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-07-08 03:16 +0200
                      Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 21:08 -0700
                  Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-07-08 03:33 +0200
                  Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-07-08 09:31 +0200
                    Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-08 00:45 -0700
                    Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@alphapou.net> - 2023-07-08 09:49 +0000
                Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-07 18:49 -0500
          Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2023-07-07 12:20 +0300
            Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 02:24 -0700
          Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 07:00 -0700
            Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2023-07-07 17:37 +0300
              Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 07:53 -0700
              Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 11:05 -0700
                Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2023-07-08 11:52 +0300
            Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-07 12:50 -0400
              Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 09:51 -0700
                Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-07 23:55 -0400
                  Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 21:07 -0700
                    Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 21:37 -0700
                      Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 21:42 -0700
                        Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 21:45 -0700
                          Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 22:00 -0700
                            Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-08 10:33 -0700
                              Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-08 16:07 -0400
                                Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-08 13:10 -0700
                                  Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-08 16:59 -0400
                                    Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-08 22:31 -0700
                          Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-08 10:30 -0700
                      Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-08 10:28 -0700
                        Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-08 12:42 -0700
                          Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-08 13:02 -0700
                            Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-08 18:54 -0500
                              Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-09 11:58 -0700
                                Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-09 14:15 -0500
                  Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 21:13 -0700
              Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 19:29 +0200
                Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 11:19 -0700
                  Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Norge Brisimitzakis <niig@tbirsnii.ie> - 2023-07-07 18:31 +0000
                  Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 11:36 -0700
                    Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@alphapou.net> - 2023-07-07 19:06 +0000
                      Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 13:16 -0700
                        Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@alphapou.net> - 2023-07-07 20:47 +0000
                          Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 13:50 -0700
                            Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@alphapou.net> - 2023-07-07 21:12 +0000
                      Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-07-08 09:26 +0200
              Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 11:17 -0700
                Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-07 17:40 -0400
                Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-07 18:51 -0500
              Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Mervin Paraskevopoulos <eepk@aupoavsa.sl> - 2023-07-07 18:19 +0000
                Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-07 17:28 -0400
                  Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Bertin Lolos <rblb@ltinllrt.ot> - 2023-07-07 21:53 +0000
                    Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-07 23:46 -0400
                      Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Nolberto Eliopoulos <looo@btoloene.pb> - 2023-07-08 19:29 +0000
                        Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2023-07-08 12:58 -0700
                          Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Bondie Antonopoulos <oebo@niononud.te> - 2023-07-08 20:36 +0000
                            Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2023-07-08 15:32 -0700
                              Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Michaes Egonidis <esnh@soddssei.si> - 2023-07-08 23:10 +0000
                              Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-09 13:59 -0400
                                Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2023-07-09 11:05 -0700
                                Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Jeff Egonidis <noig@iegoiiio.nf> - 2023-07-09 18:20 +0000
      Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 14:56 -0700
    Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-07-07 11:06 -0700
      Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 11:22 -0700
        Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-07-07 14:28 -0700
      Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Deangelo Sfakianos <enoe@adaonlnd.eo> - 2023-07-07 19:28 +0000
    Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 20:28 -0700
      Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-07-08 13:50 +1000
        Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 20:52 -0700
          Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-07-08 14:56 +1000
            Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-08 10:32 -0700
              Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-07-09 10:48 +1000
              Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Bill <davos2329@gmail.com> - 2023-07-08 19:16 -0700
              Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2023-07-09 12:04 +0300
      Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-08 00:04 -0400
        Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 21:15 -0700
        Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-08 10:24 -0700
          Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-09 13:32 -0400
            Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 13:15 -0700
              Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 15:03 -0700
                Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 21:20 -0700
                  Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 22:13 -0700
                    Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 22:47 -0700
                      Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 22:59 -0700
                        Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 23:13 -0700
                          Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 23:37 -0700
                          Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 23:39 -0700
                            Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 23:47 -0700
    Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 20:50 -0700

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#614728

FromVolney <volney@invalid.invalid>
Date2023-07-07 23:55 -0400
Message-ID<u8amns$1ks4t$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#614645
On 7/7/2023 12:51 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Friday, 7 July 2023 at 18:50:46 UTC+2, Volney wrote:
>> On 7/7/2023 10:00 AM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:

>>> I don't have my primary source handy because I'm not very interested in criticizin Einstein, but, thanks to Pentcho Valev

>> Stop right there. Pentcho is just about the nuttiest relativity crackpot
> 
> 
> And do you still believe that  9 192 631 770  ISO idiocy
> is some "Newton mode"? You're such an amazing idiot,
> stupid Mike, even considering the standards of your
> moronic religion.

What part of "not even wrong" don't you understand, janitor?

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#614731

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-07-07 21:07 -0700
Message-ID<d8713349-b166-4e17-b8da-c1c9b1329f33n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614728
On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 8:55:43 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
> On 7/7/2023 12:51 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > On Friday, 7 July 2023 at 18:50:46 UTC+2, Volney wrote: 
> >> On 7/7/2023 10:00 AM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> 
> >>> I don't have my primary source handy because I'm not very interested in criticizin Einstein, but, thanks to Pentcho Valev 
> 
> >> Stop right there. Pentcho is just about the nuttiest relativity crackpot 
> > 
> >
> > And do you still believe that 9 192 631 770 ISO idiocy 
> > is some "Newton mode"? You're such an amazing idiot, 
> > stupid Mike, even considering the standards of your 
> > moronic religion. 
> 
> What part of "not even wrong" don't you understand, janitor?
Anyone with reasoning capabilities can understand relativity is a joke and a swindle.

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#614741

FromPaul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-07 21:37 -0700
Message-ID<ddd50dcf-ef8a-4f0b-a185-ee26d1fbf4c0n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614731
On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 9:07:31 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:

> Anyone with reasoning capabilities can understand relativity is a joke and a swindle.

Logic has NOTHING to do with it. Relativity is not exactly logical, but if you want to overturn it, only evidence counts.

Evidence rules... got any?

So far, no one has been able to overturn in, for over 100 years... and I doubt very much that it is going to be you!

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#614742

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-07 21:42 -0700
Message-ID<db6c703c-9530-416e-870b-46b67b8b07c7n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614741
On Saturday, 8 July 2023 at 06:37:55 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 9:07:31 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> 
> > Anyone with reasoning capabilities can understand relativity is a joke and a swindle. 
> 
> Logic has NOTHING to do with it

Right, logic has NOTHING to do with your
insane religion, Al.


> So far, no one has been able to overturn in, for over 100 years... and I doubt very much that it is going to be you!

Some other cults were holding much longer. 
And in the meantime in the real world, forbidden
by your insane bunch "improper" clocks keep
measuring t'=t in improper seconds.

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#614743

FromPaul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-07 21:45 -0700
Message-ID<de591076-fd15-4ac0-bfe9-a7135002b716n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614742
On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 9:42:47 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Saturday, 8 July 2023 at 06:37:55 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote: 
> > On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 9:07:31 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > 
> > > Anyone with reasoning capabilities can understand relativity is a joke and a swindle. 
> > 
> > Logic has NOTHING to do with it
> Right, logic has NOTHING to do with your 
> insane religion, Al.
> > So far, no one has been able to overturn in, for over 100 years... and I doubt very much that it is going to be you!
> Some other cults were holding much longer. 
> And in the meantime in the real world, forbidden 
> by your insane bunch "improper" clocks keep 
> measuring t'=t in improper seconds.

Woz, my dog knows more physics than you do... and he has been dead for a number of years now...

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#614745

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-07 22:00 -0700
Message-ID<791738af-5ff7-4f8b-88b5-0cab4640024cn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614743
On Saturday, 8 July 2023 at 06:45:19 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 9:42:47 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote: 
> > On Saturday, 8 July 2023 at 06:37:55 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote: 
> > > On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 9:07:31 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > 
> > > > Anyone with reasoning capabilities can understand relativity is a joke and a swindle. 
> > > 
> > > Logic has NOTHING to do with it 
> > Right, logic has NOTHING to do with your 
> > insane religion, Al. 
> > > So far, no one has been able to overturn in, for over 100 years... and I doubt very much that it is going to be you! 
> > Some other cults were holding much longer. 
> > And in the meantime in the real world, forbidden 
> > by your insane bunch "improper" clocks keep 
> > measuring t'=t in improper seconds.
> Woz, my dog knows more physics than you do...

Al, knowing your inconsistent idiocies makes
no advantage in anything. Maybe except barking.

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#614773

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-07-08 10:33 -0700
Message-ID<5d6710fb-e292-48ac-8d43-623d69a62b06n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614745
On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 10:00:48 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Saturday, 8 July 2023 at 06:45:19 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote: 
> > On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 9:42:47 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote: 
> > > On Saturday, 8 July 2023 at 06:37:55 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote: 
> > > > On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 9:07:31 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > > Anyone with reasoning capabilities can understand relativity is a joke and a swindle. 
> > > > 
> > > > Logic has NOTHING to do with it 
> > > Right, logic has NOTHING to do with your 
> > > insane religion, Al. 
> > > > So far, no one has been able to overturn in, for over 100 years... and I doubt very much that it is going to be you! 
> > > Some other cults were holding much longer. 
> > > And in the meantime in the real world, forbidden 
> > > by your insane bunch "improper" clocks keep 
> > > measuring t'=t in improper seconds. 
> > Woz, my dog knows more physics than you do...
> Al, knowing your inconsistent idiocies makes 
> no advantage in anything. Maybe except barking.
Relativity is so illogical it is barking mad. It even denies relative velocities for light when all velocities are relative.

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#614789

FromVolney <volney@invalid.invalid>
Date2023-07-08 16:07 -0400
Message-ID<u8cfm9$1r7lk$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#614773
On 7/8/2023 1:33 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 10:00:48 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>> On Saturday, 8 July 2023 at 06:45:19 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote:
>>> On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 9:42:47 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, 8 July 2023 at 06:37:55 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 9:07:31 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone with reasoning capabilities can understand relativity is a joke and a swindle.
>>>>>
>>>>> Logic has NOTHING to do with it
>>>> Right, logic has NOTHING to do with your
>>>> insane religion, Al.
>>>>> So far, no one has been able to overturn in, for over 100 years... and I doubt very much that it is going to be you!
>>>> Some other cults were holding much longer.
>>>> And in the meantime in the real world, forbidden
>>>> by your insane bunch "improper" clocks keep
>>>> measuring t'=t in improper seconds.
>>> Woz, my dog knows more physics than you do...
>> Al, knowing your inconsistent idiocies makes
>> no advantage in anything. Maybe except barking.

> Relativity is so illogical it is barking mad. It even denies relative velocities for light when all velocities are relative.

Nobody cares whether you're barking mad. Scientists care about the 
results of experimental evidence and scientific observations.  Do you 
have any actual evidence that relativity is wrong? Evidence rules, every 
crank here drools.

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#614790

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-07-08 13:10 -0700
Message-ID<017f207a-6e76-408f-9dae-55468c4fff61n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614789
On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 1:07:46 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
> On 7/8/2023 1:33 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 10:00:48 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote: 
> >> On Saturday, 8 July 2023 at 06:45:19 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote: 
> >>> On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 9:42:47 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote: 
> >>>> On Saturday, 8 July 2023 at 06:37:55 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote: 
> >>>>> On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 9:07:31 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> Anyone with reasoning capabilities can understand relativity is a joke and a swindle. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Logic has NOTHING to do with it 
> >>>> Right, logic has NOTHING to do with your 
> >>>> insane religion, Al. 
> >>>>> So far, no one has been able to overturn in, for over 100 years... and I doubt very much that it is going to be you! 
> >>>> Some other cults were holding much longer. 
> >>>> And in the meantime in the real world, forbidden 
> >>>> by your insane bunch "improper" clocks keep 
> >>>> measuring t'=t in improper seconds. 
> >>> Woz, my dog knows more physics than you do... 
> >> Al, knowing your inconsistent idiocies makes 
> >> no advantage in anything. Maybe except barking. 
> 
> > Relativity is so illogical it is barking mad. It even denies relative velocities for light when all velocities are relative.
> Nobody cares whether you're barking mad. Scientists care about the 
> results of experimental evidence and scientific observations. Do you 
> have any actual evidence that relativity is wrong? Evidence rules, every 
> crank here drools.
You have your head in the sand.

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#614799

FromVolney <volney@invalid.invalid>
Date2023-07-08 16:59 -0400
Message-ID<u8cio3$1rlgg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#614790
On 7/8/2023 4:10 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 1:07:46 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
>> On 7/8/2023 1:33 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>> On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 10:00:48 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, 8 July 2023 at 06:45:19 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 9:42:47 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>>>> On Saturday, 8 July 2023 at 06:37:55 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote:
>>>>>>> On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 9:07:31 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyone with reasoning capabilities can understand relativity is a joke and a swindle.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Logic has NOTHING to do with it
>>>>>> Right, logic has NOTHING to do with your
>>>>>> insane religion, Al.
>>>>>>> So far, no one has been able to overturn in, for over 100 years... and I doubt very much that it is going to be you!
>>>>>> Some other cults were holding much longer.
>>>>>> And in the meantime in the real world, forbidden
>>>>>> by your insane bunch "improper" clocks keep
>>>>>> measuring t'=t in improper seconds.
>>>>> Woz, my dog knows more physics than you do...
>>>> Al, knowing your inconsistent idiocies makes
>>>> no advantage in anything. Maybe except barking.
>>
>>> Relativity is so illogical it is barking mad. It even denies relative velocities for light when all velocities are relative.

>> Nobody cares whether you're barking mad. Scientists care about the
>> results of experimental evidence and scientific observations. Do you
>> have any actual evidence that relativity is wrong? Evidence rules, every
>> crank here drools.

> You have your head in the sand.

I'll take that as an admission that you have absolutely no evidence that 
relativity is wrong. So there is no reason whatsoever for scientists, or 
anyone following the scientific method, to believe relativity is wrong. 
All the howling at the moon that you're doing is nothing but a lot of noise.

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#614818

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-08 22:31 -0700
Message-ID<ffb750b9-8b57-45c1-bc8d-f8190cdd33ban@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614799
On Saturday, 8 July 2023 at 22:59:51 UTC+2, Volney wrote:
> On 7/8/2023 4:10 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 1:07:46 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote: 
> >> On 7/8/2023 1:33 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> >>> On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 10:00:48 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote: 
> >>>> On Saturday, 8 July 2023 at 06:45:19 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote: 
> >>>>> On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 9:42:47 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote: 
> >>>>>> On Saturday, 8 July 2023 at 06:37:55 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote: 
> >>>>>>> On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 9:07:31 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Anyone with reasoning capabilities can understand relativity is a joke and a swindle. 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Logic has NOTHING to do with it 
> >>>>>> Right, logic has NOTHING to do with your 
> >>>>>> insane religion, Al. 
> >>>>>>> So far, no one has been able to overturn in, for over 100 years... and I doubt very much that it is going to be you! 
> >>>>>> Some other cults were holding much longer. 
> >>>>>> And in the meantime in the real world, forbidden 
> >>>>>> by your insane bunch "improper" clocks keep 
> >>>>>> measuring t'=t in improper seconds. 
> >>>>> Woz, my dog knows more physics than you do... 
> >>>> Al, knowing your inconsistent idiocies makes 
> >>>> no advantage in anything. Maybe except barking. 
> >> 
> >>> Relativity is so illogical it is barking mad. It even denies relative velocities for light when all velocities are relative. 
> 
> >> Nobody cares whether you're barking mad. Scientists care about the 
> >> results of experimental evidence and scientific observations. Do you 
> >> have any actual evidence that relativity is wrong? Evidence rules, every 
> >> crank here drools. 
> 
> > You have your head in the sand.
> I'll take that as an admission that you have absolutely no evidence that 
> relativity is wrong. 


And you, stupid Mike, have absolutely no evidence
that adjusting clocks  to your  9 192 631 770  ISO 
idiocy is some "Newton mode".

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#614771

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-07-08 10:30 -0700
Message-ID<746b6b9e-e77f-4392-8099-cdb4974e962cn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614743
On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 9:45:19 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 9:42:47 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote: 
> > On Saturday, 8 July 2023 at 06:37:55 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote: 
> > > On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 9:07:31 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > 
> > > > Anyone with reasoning capabilities can understand relativity is a joke and a swindle. 
> > > 
> > > Logic has NOTHING to do with it 
> > Right, logic has NOTHING to do with your 
> > insane religion, Al. 
> > > So far, no one has been able to overturn in, for over 100 years... and I doubt very much that it is going to be you! 
> > Some other cults were holding much longer. 
> > And in the meantime in the real world, forbidden 
> > by your insane bunch "improper" clocks keep 
> > measuring t'=t in improper seconds.
> Woz, my dog knows more physics than you do... and he has been dead for a number of years now...
Relativity is what top historian of science Stanley Jaki calls a "stillbirth of science."

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#614770

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-07-08 10:28 -0700
Message-ID<a8b9fd91-c3a8-482e-9335-48763d7db0b2n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614741
On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 9:37:55 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 9:07:31 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> 
> > Anyone with reasoning capabilities can understand relativity is a joke and a swindle.
> Logic has NOTHING to do with it. Relativity is not exactly logical, but if you want to overturn it, only evidence counts. 
> 
> Evidence rules... got any? 
> 
> So far, no one has been able to overturn in, for over 100 years... and I doubt very much that it is going to be you!
You're right. Logic has nothing to do with relativity nor relativity to do with logic. Thanks for admitting it. It's always been overturned in the minds of every logical person without any need to subject it to experiments that relativists willfully misconstrue. It's always been well-known to many highly intelligent scientists that relativity is nonsense. You guys always pretend your interpretation of the experiments proves anything at all.

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#614784

FromPaul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-08 12:42 -0700
Message-ID<6f2579c2-478c-48ac-a9f8-5b2a21cd25a7n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614770
On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 10:28:44 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 9:37:55 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote: 
> > On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 9:07:31 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > 
> > > Anyone with reasoning capabilities can understand relativity is a joke and a swindle. 
> > Logic has NOTHING to do with it. Relativity is not exactly logical, but if you want to overturn it, only evidence counts. 
> > 
> > Evidence rules... got any? 
> > 
> > So far, no one has been able to overturn in, for over 100 years... and I doubt very much that it is going to be you!

> You're right. Logic has nothing to do with relativity nor relativity to do with logic. Thanks for admitting it. It's always been overturned in the minds of every logical person without any need to subject it to experiments that relativists willfully misconstrue. It's always been well-known to many highly intelligent scientists that relativity is nonsense. You guys always pretend your interpretation of the experiments proves anything at all.

Although I know you think you understand what you thought I said, I don't think you realize that what you heard is not what I meant...

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#614788

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-07-08 13:02 -0700
Message-ID<75711b21-32e4-4694-8cd1-76353fe71b0dn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614784
On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 12:43:00 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 10:28:44 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 9:37:55 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote: 
> > > On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 9:07:31 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > 
> > > > Anyone with reasoning capabilities can understand relativity is a joke and a swindle. 
> > > Logic has NOTHING to do with it. Relativity is not exactly logical, but if you want to overturn it, only evidence counts. 
> > > 
> > > Evidence rules... got any? 
> > > 
> > > So far, no one has been able to overturn in, for over 100 years... and I doubt very much that it is going to be you! 
> 
> > You're right. Logic has nothing to do with relativity nor relativity to do with logic. Thanks for admitting it. It's always been overturned in the minds of every logical person without any need to subject it to experiments that relativists willfully misconstrue. It's always been well-known to many highly intelligent scientists that relativity is nonsense. You guys always pretend your interpretation of the experiments proves anything at all.
> Although I know you think you understand what you thought I said, I don't think you realize that what you heard is not what I meant...
Sorry, but my siesta is over, and it's time for something serious.

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#614808

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-07-08 18:54 -0500
Message-ID<kgub9eFdvkkU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#614788
On 7/8/2023 3:02 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:

<...>

> Sorry, but my siesta is over, and it's time for something serious.

So when are you going to get serious? All this stuff you've been
posting is so much crapola you're attempting to find recognition
for by bullying instead of making cogent arguments and using new
results from new experiments. All that you've brought to bear in these
discussions has been argued relentlessly during the past century.

As they say, insanity is doing the same thing over and over while
expecting different results. That places you in the insane category
because all you're doing is relentlessly repeating worn out tired
old arguments resolved long ago.

"Delusional disorder is a type of psychotic disorder. Its main symptom
is the presence of one or more delusions.

"A delusion is an unshakable belief in something that’s untrue. The
belief isn’t a part of the person’s culture or subculture, and almost
everyone else knows this belief to be false."

<https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/9599-delusional-disorder#:~:text=Delusional%20disorder%20is%20a%20type%20of%20psychotic%20disorder.,this%20belief%20to%20be%20false.>

The problem is you're doubtless dual diagnosis and the rest makes it all
very complicated. Really, don't you have anything better to do? This is
all very boring. I've had to cut back reading your stuff to 25% or less
and discovered I'm not missing anything relevant. I do believe that even
if I killfile your postings completely I won't be missing anything
important or of interest.

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#614854

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-07-09 11:58 -0700
Message-ID<fe39c13f-d1d2-491d-9bc7-5fd2696f8588n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614808
On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 4:54:27 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
> On 7/8/2023 3:02 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> 
> <...>
> > Sorry, but my siesta is over, and it's time for something serious.
> So when are you going to get serious? All this stuff you've been 
> posting is so much crapola you're attempting to find recognition 
> for by bullying instead of making cogent arguments and using new 
> results from new experiments. All that you've brought to bear in these 
> discussions has been argued relentlessly during the past century. 
> 
> As they say, insanity is doing the same thing over and over while 
> expecting different results. That places you in the insane category 
> because all you're doing is relentlessly repeating worn out tired 
> old arguments resolved long ago. 
> 
> "Delusional disorder is a type of psychotic disorder. Its main symptom 
> is the presence of one or more delusions. 
> 
> "A delusion is an unshakable belief in something that’s untrue. The 
> belief isn’t a part of the person’s culture or subculture, and almost 
> everyone else knows this belief to be false." 
> 
> <https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/9599-delusional-disorder#:~:text=Delusional%20disorder%20is%20a%20type%20of%20psychotic%20disorder.,this%20belief%20to%20be%20false.> 
> 
> The problem is you're doubtless dual diagnosis and the rest makes it all 
> very complicated. Really, don't you have anything better to do? This is 
> all very boring. I've had to cut back reading your stuff to 25% or less 
> and discovered I'm not missing anything relevant. I do believe that even 
> if I killfile your postings completely I won't be missing anything 
> important or of interest.
"The experts who are leading you may be wrong…I think we
live in an unscientific age in which almost all the buffeting of communications and television-words,
books, and so on-are unscientific. As a result, there is a considerable amount of intellectual tyranny in
the name of science…Science alone of all the subjects contains within itself the lesson of the danger of
belief in the infallibility of the greatest teachers of the preceding generation.”

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#614860

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-07-09 14:15 -0500
Message-ID<kh0fagFofuaU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#614854
On 7/9/2023 1:58 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 4:54:27 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
>> On 7/8/2023 3:02 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>
>> <...>
>>> Sorry, but my siesta is over, and it's time for something serious.
>> So when are you going to get serious? All this stuff you've been
>> posting is so much crapola you're attempting to find recognition
>> for by bullying instead of making cogent arguments and using new
>> results from new experiments. All that you've brought to bear in these
>> discussions has been argued relentlessly during the past century.
>>
>> As they say, insanity is doing the same thing over and over while
>> expecting different results. That places you in the insane category
>> because all you're doing is relentlessly repeating worn out tired
>> old arguments resolved long ago.
>>
>> "Delusional disorder is a type of psychotic disorder. Its main symptom
>> is the presence of one or more delusions.
>>
>> "A delusion is an unshakable belief in something that’s untrue. The
>> belief isn’t a part of the person’s culture or subculture, and almost
>> everyone else knows this belief to be false."
>>
>> <https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/9599-delusional-disorder#:~:text=Delusional%20disorder%20is%20a%20type%20of%20psychotic%20disorder.,this%20belief%20to%20be%20false.>
>>
>> The problem is you're doubtless dual diagnosis and the rest makes it all
>> very complicated. Really, don't you have anything better to do? This is
>> all very boring. I've had to cut back reading your stuff to 25% or less
>> and discovered I'm not missing anything relevant. I do believe that even
>> if I killfile your postings completely I won't be missing anything
>> important or of interest.

> "The experts who are leading you may be wrong…I think we
> live in an unscientific age in which almost all the buffeting of communications and television-words,
> books, and so on-are unscientific. As a result, there is a considerable amount of intellectual tyranny in
> the name of science…Science alone of all the subjects contains within itself the lesson of the danger of
> belief in the infallibility of the greatest teachers of the preceding generation.”

ibid.

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#614735

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-07 21:13 -0700
Message-ID<483c56a8-3aeb-4b95-9c7c-9e4bb2ed5dc0n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614728
On Saturday, 8 July 2023 at 05:55:43 UTC+2, Volney wrote:
> On 7/7/2023 12:51 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > On Friday, 7 July 2023 at 18:50:46 UTC+2, Volney wrote: 
> >> On 7/7/2023 10:00 AM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> 
> >>> I don't have my primary source handy because I'm not very interested in criticizin Einstein, but, thanks to Pentcho Valev 
> 
> >> Stop right there. Pentcho is just about the nuttiest relativity crackpot 
> > 
> >
> > And do you still believe that 9 192 631 770 ISO idiocy 
> > is some "Newton mode"? You're such an amazing idiot, 
> > stupid Mike, even considering the standards of your 
> > moronic religion. 
> 
> What part of "not even wrong" don't you understand, janitor?

Of course it is not wrong, you've written many
times that Cs 9 192 631 770 clocks are in 
"Newton mode". At least you're ashamed of that...
but somehow it's not preventing you from repeating
this nonsense. Well, you're such an amazing idiot,
stupid Mike.

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#614649

FromAthel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-07 19:29 +0200
Message-ID<kgr0caFsegpU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#614644
On 2023-07-07 16:50:44 +0000, Volney said:

> On 7/7/2023 10:00 AM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>> On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 6:07:16 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
>>> On 7/6/2023 5:46 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 2:07:56 PM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>>> Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> A long-distance shot by a sniper (shooting from a train) must take into
>>>>>> account wind. If the trajectory of the bullet shows the lack of any wind,
>>>>>> it does not show the bullet does not share the velocity of the source. It
>>>>>> does not show the bullet velocity is independent of the source. It does
>>>>>> not confirm the constancy or invariance of the bullet's speed. It still
>>>>>> shares the velocity of the source. Therefore, the MMX did not prove the
>>>>>> constancy of the speed of light.
>>>>> Of course it didn't.
>>>>> Why kick down this open door once again?
>>>>> (and worse, with faulty arguments)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jan
>>>> Because Einstein and many relativists continue to claim the MMX proved 
>>>> the constancy of light speed when that is obviously a stupid 
>>>> conflation. It did not provide any evidence for it at all.
> 
>>> Einstein never claimed the speed of light was constant because of the
>>> MMX. He stated the speed of light may be constant simply because that's
>>> what all the experimental results stated.
>>> 
>>> (why do the anti-relativity cranks have to make up false reasons for
>>> belief in a constant speed of light?)
> 
>> I don't have my primary source handy because I'm not very interested in 
>> criticizin Einstein, but, thanks to Pentcho Valev
> 
> Stop right there. Pentcho is just about the nuttiest relativity 
> crackpot ever to darken this newsgroup.

Maybe, but there is quite a lot of competition for that title!

>  I already told you this. Half of his references don't claim what 
> Pentcho claims, the rest are cranks just as nutty as he is.

The important thing to realize about Pentcho Valev is not just that 
he's nutty and a crank, but he's also a liar. He quote-mines and finds 
something that he thinks will fool us into thinking it supports his 
position, and posts it wthut paying any attention to the qualifications 
and explanations the author made.
> 
> <snip rest, unread>


-- 
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36 years; mainly 
in England until 1987.

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