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| From | Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. |
| Date | 2023-07-07 19:29 +0200 |
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On 2023-07-07 16:50:44 +0000, Volney said: > On 7/7/2023 10:00 AM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: >> On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 6:07:16 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote: >>> On 7/6/2023 5:46 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: >>>> On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 2:07:56 PM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: >>>>> Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> A long-distance shot by a sniper (shooting from a train) must take into >>>>>> account wind. If the trajectory of the bullet shows the lack of any wind, >>>>>> it does not show the bullet does not share the velocity of the source. It >>>>>> does not show the bullet velocity is independent of the source. It does >>>>>> not confirm the constancy or invariance of the bullet's speed. It still >>>>>> shares the velocity of the source. Therefore, the MMX did not prove the >>>>>> constancy of the speed of light. >>>>> Of course it didn't. >>>>> Why kick down this open door once again? >>>>> (and worse, with faulty arguments) >>>>> >>>>> Jan >>>> Because Einstein and many relativists continue to claim the MMX proved >>>> the constancy of light speed when that is obviously a stupid >>>> conflation. It did not provide any evidence for it at all. > >>> Einstein never claimed the speed of light was constant because of the >>> MMX. He stated the speed of light may be constant simply because that's >>> what all the experimental results stated. >>> >>> (why do the anti-relativity cranks have to make up false reasons for >>> belief in a constant speed of light?) > >> I don't have my primary source handy because I'm not very interested in >> criticizin Einstein, but, thanks to Pentcho Valev > > Stop right there. Pentcho is just about the nuttiest relativity > crackpot ever to darken this newsgroup. Maybe, but there is quite a lot of competition for that title! > I already told you this. Half of his references don't claim what > Pentcho claims, the rest are cranks just as nutty as he is. The important thing to realize about Pentcho Valev is not just that he's nutty and a crank, but he's also a liar. He quote-mines and finds something that he thinks will fool us into thinking it supports his position, and posts it wthut paying any attention to the qualifications and explanations the author made. > > <snip rest, unread> -- Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36 years; mainly in England until 1987.
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Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-06 21:07 -0400
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Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 07:00 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2023-07-07 17:37 +0300
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 07:53 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 11:05 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2023-07-08 11:52 +0300
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-07 12:50 -0400
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Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-07 23:55 -0400
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Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-07 23:46 -0400
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