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Re: the famous formula

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First post2019-01-01 16:54 -0800
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  Re: the famous formula Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2019-01-01 16:54 -0800
    Re: the famous formula Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2019-01-06 17:17 +0100
      Re: the famous formula "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2019-01-06 08:35 -0800
        Re: the famous formula Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2019-01-07 14:56 +0100
      Re: the famous formula Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-06 18:47 +0100

#480789 — Re: the famous formula

FromSteve BH <sbharris@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-01 16:54 -0800
SubjectRe: the famous formula
Message-ID<cac08b2f-85f5-4f22-890c-e9555eac3495@googlegroups.com>
Have no idea what you mean by that. I can as well argue that our idea of "education" is more Prussian, and was adopted in the US (especially for public primary and secondary schooling) from there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_education_system

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#481188

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2019-01-06 17:17 +0100
Message-ID<g9eo0mFn6hiU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#480789
Am 02.01.2019 um 01:54 schrieb Steve BH:
> Have no idea what you mean by that. I can as well argue that our idea of "education" is more Prussian, and was adopted in the US (especially for public primary and secondary schooling) from there.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_education_system
> 

The country were I live is not Prussia.

In fact Prussia does not exist anymore since roughly 150 years.

The current name of the nation is "Federal Republic of Germany".


A main difference between Prussia and Germany: Prussia was a monarchy 
and Germany is a republic.

We have also no king or aristocracy in Germany.

In former times, when there still were aristocrats, they had developed 
the idea of 'education' for what now call 'learning'.

The young aristocrats were told how to rule and all the others how to serve.

This has nothing to do with distribution of knowledge, but with 
education ('to learn where the place in the society is').

The methods used in Prussia were mainly force, like physical punishment.

The US educational system has dropped this a bit, but still uses 
propaganda for the same purpose.

TH

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#481191

From"David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2019-01-06 08:35 -0800
Message-ID<452d38b5-9a49-49eb-b804-8fa993edaec5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#481188
Thomas Heger escrito 

Am 02.01.2019 um 01:54 schrieb Steve BH: 
> Have no idea what you mean by that. I can as well argue that our idea of "education" is more Prussian, and was adopted in the US (especially for public primary and secondary schooling) from there. 
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_education_system 
> 

The country were I live is not Prussia. 

In fact Prussia does not exist anymore since roughly 150 years. 

The current name of the nation is "Federal Republic of Germany". 


A main difference between Prussia and Germany: Prussia was a monarchy 
and Germany is a republic. 

We have also no king or aristocracy in Germany. 

In former times, when there still were aristocrats, they had developed 
the idea of 'education' for what now call 'learning'. 

The young aristocrats were told how to rule and all the others how to serve. 

This has nothing to do with distribution of knowledge, but with 
education ('to learn where the place in the society is'). 

The methods used in Prussia were mainly force, like physical punishment. 

The US educational system has dropped this a bit, but still uses 
propaganda for the same purpose. 

TH 

Frankfurt School 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School

Subjugation & Compliance System creating productive Oblivious Workers

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ILQepXUhJ98

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#481271

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2019-01-07 14:56 +0100
Message-ID<g9h443F8mdnU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#481191
Am 06.01.2019 um 17:35 schrieb David (Kronos Prime) Fuller:
> Thomas Heger escrito
> 
> Am 02.01.2019 um 01:54 schrieb Steve BH:
>> Have no idea what you mean by that. I can as well argue that our idea of "education" is more Prussian, and was adopted in the US (especially for public primary and secondary schooling) from there.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_education_system
>>
> 
> The country were I live is not Prussia.
> 
> In fact Prussia does not exist anymore since roughly 150 years.
> 
> The current name of the nation is "Federal Republic of Germany".
> 
> 
> A main difference between Prussia and Germany: Prussia was a monarchy
> and Germany is a republic.
> 
> We have also no king or aristocracy in Germany.
> 
> In former times, when there still were aristocrats, they had developed
> the idea of 'education' for what now call 'learning'.
> 
> The young aristocrats were told how to rule and all the others how to serve.
> 
> This has nothing to do with distribution of knowledge, but with
> education ('to learn where the place in the society is').
> 
> The methods used in Prussia were mainly force, like physical punishment.
> 
> The US educational system has dropped this a bit, but still uses
> propaganda for the same purpose.
> 
> TH
> 
> Frankfurt School
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School

Well, as you may have guessed, I do not like the Frankfurt School.
> 
> Subjugation & Compliance System creating productive Oblivious Workers
> 
> https://youtube.com/watch?v=ILQepXUhJ98

This actually a good video. It's a little polemic, but I still like it.

And: they don't call it 'learning' or 'teaching children', but 'education'.

This system includes massive propaganda, like 'pledge of allegiance'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpQewj9PDKY

TH
> 

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#481201

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2019-01-06 18:47 +0100
Message-ID<927125d4-4aba-1b65-bc4a-26d5f9990a4e@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#481188
Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 02.01.2019 um 01:54 schrieb Steve BH:
>> Have no idea what you mean by that. I can as well argue
>> that our idea of "education" is more Prussian, and was
>> adopted in the US (especially for public primary and
>> secondary schooling) from there.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_education_system
> 
> The country were I live is not Prussia.

Correct, you live in your own fantasy world instead.

(Learn to know what an analogy is.)

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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