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  Direction of relative motions mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-19 21:33 -0700
    Re: Direction of relative motions Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-20 12:45 +0000
      Re: Direction of relative motions mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-20 11:56 -0700
        Re: Direction of relative motions Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-20 19:00 +0000
          Re: Direction of relative motions mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-20 14:03 -0700
            Re: Direction of relative motions mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-21 19:58 -0700
              Re: Direction of relative motions Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-22 13:52 +0000
                Re: Direction of relative motions mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-22 16:51 -0700
                  Re: Direction of relative motions mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-24 21:51 -0700
                    Re: Direction of relative motions Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwendn.dp> - 2018-07-26 18:17 +0000
                      Re: Direction of relative motions mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 13:23 -0700
                        Re: Direction of relative motions Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwendn.dp> - 2018-07-26 21:21 +0000
                          Re: Direction of relative motions mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 17:03 -0700
                    Re: Direction of relative motions Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-07-27 11:18 +1000
                      Re: Direction of relative motions mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 19:39 -0700
                        Re: Direction of relative motions Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-07-27 13:01 +1000
                          Re: Direction of relative motions mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 20:19 -0700
    Re: Direction of relative motions Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-07-22 13:37 +1000
      Re: Direction of relative motions mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-24 21:55 -0700
        Re: Direction of relative motions Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-07-25 19:30 +1000
          Re: Direction of relative motions mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-25 13:01 -0700
            Re: Direction of relative motions Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-07-26 11:48 +1000
              Re: Direction of relative motions mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-25 19:35 -0700

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#464977 — Direction of relative motions

Begin to move and you have an opposite appearance around you
and an opposite weight. For example accelerating onto
the freeway you experience both opposite weight and motion
appearance around that shrinks into the distance as size
does. The Earth rotation causes the opposite appearance
of it moving across the sky.
Rolling rotation has no relative.
You can have your own motion.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#464985

mitchrae3323 wrote:

> Begin to move and you have an opposite appearance around you and an
> opposite weight. For example accelerating onto the freeway you
> experience both opposite weight and motion appearance around that
> shrinks into the distance as size does. The Earth rotation causes the
> opposite appearance of it moving across the sky.

No, that's just you.

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#465029

On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 5:45:57 AM UTC-7, Wayne Dial wrote:
> mitchrae3323 wrote:
> 
> > Begin to move and you have an opposite appearance around you and an
> > opposite weight. For example accelerating onto the freeway you
> > experience both opposite weight and motion appearance around that
> > shrinks into the distance as size does. The Earth rotation causes the
> > opposite appearance of it moving across the sky.
> 
> No, that's just you.

You are in your own little world Wayne.
No. It happens to everyone.
Begin to move and there is opposite weight
and the appearance of motion around you.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#465033

mitchrae3323 wrote:

> On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 5:45:57 AM UTC-7, Wayne Dial wrote:
>> mitchrae3323 wrote:
>> 
>> > Begin to move and you have an opposite appearance around you and an
>> > opposite weight. For example accelerating onto the freeway you
>> > experience both opposite weight and motion appearance around that
>> > shrinks into the distance as size does. The Earth rotation causes the
>> > opposite appearance of it moving across the sky.
>> 
>> No, that's just you.
> 
> You are in your own little world Wayne. No. It happens to everyone.
> Begin to move and there is opposite weight and the appearance of motion
> around you.

I don't know. What do you think?

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#465054

On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 12:00:56 PM UTC-7, Wayne Dial wrote:
> mitchrae3323 wrote:
> 
> > On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 5:45:57 AM UTC-7, Wayne Dial wrote:
> >> mitchrae3323 wrote:
> >> 
> >> > Begin to move and you have an opposite appearance around you and an
> >> > opposite weight. For example accelerating onto the freeway you
> >> > experience both opposite weight and motion appearance around that
> >> > shrinks into the distance as size does. The Earth rotation causes the
> >> > opposite appearance of it moving across the sky.
> >> 
> >> No, that's just you.
> > 
> > You are in your own little world Wayne. No. It happens to everyone.
> > Begin to move and there is opposite weight and the appearance of motion
> > around you.
> 
> I don't know. What do you think?

Anything can have its own motion and can share motions.
You can move yourself and you move with the Earth's double movement
of its orbit and self rotation.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#465197

On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 2:03:23 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 12:00:56 PM UTC-7, Wayne Dial wrote:
> > mitchrae3323 wrote:
> > 
> > > On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 5:45:57 AM UTC-7, Wayne Dial wrote:
> > >> mitchrae3323 wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> > Begin to move and you have an opposite appearance around you and an
> > >> > opposite weight. For example accelerating onto the freeway you
> > >> > experience both opposite weight and motion appearance around that
> > >> > shrinks into the distance as size does. The Earth rotation causes the
> > >> > opposite appearance of it moving across the sky.
> > >> 
> > >> No, that's just you.
> > > 
> > > You are in your own little world Wayne. No. It happens to everyone.
> > > Begin to move and there is opposite weight and the appearance of motion
> > > around you.
> > 
> > I don't know. What do you think?
> 
> Anything can have its own motion and can share motions.
> You can move yourself and you move with the Earth's double movement
> of its orbit and self rotation.
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch

Why would everything move relative to you?

Mitchell Raemsch

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#465225

mitchrae3323 wrote:

>> Anything can have its own motion and can share motions.
>> You can move yourself and you move with the Earth's double movement of
>> its orbit and self rotation. Mitchell Raemsch
> 
> Why would everything move relative to you?

not everything. Your mean of transportation.

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#465263

On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 6:52:15 AM UTC-7, Wayne Dial wrote:
> mitchrae3323 wrote:
> 
> >> Anything can have its own motion and can share motions.
> >> You can move yourself and you move with the Earth's double movement of
> >> its orbit and self rotation. Mitchell Raemsch
> > 
> > Why would everything move relative to you?
> 
> not everything. Your mean of transportation.

That's sharing motion.
What is the relative to rotation Roy Masters?
If some things like rotation don't have a 
relative then they can move of themselves.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#465556

On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 4:51:29 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 6:52:15 AM UTC-7, Wayne Dial wrote:
> > mitchrae3323 wrote:
> > 
> > >> Anything can have its own motion and can share motions.
> > >> You can move yourself and you move with the Earth's double movement of
> > >> its orbit and self rotation. Mitchell Raemsch
> > > 
> > > Why would everything move relative to you?
> > 
> > not everything. Your mean of transportation.
> 
> That's sharing motion.
> What is the relative to rotation Roy Masters?
> If some things like rotation don't have a 
> relative then they can move of themselves.
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch

When I begin to move I observe a backward appearance of motion
around me. Getting on the freeway I feel opposite weight in addition
to this backward motion. That appearance shrinks into the distance.
I saw a mountain most further away and it didn't appear to move
in short time but it was backward. This is objective relative
motion that Einstein overlooked.

The Earth turns and for us the sky moves around opposite
of its rotation direction. The Earth rotates East to West and
the Sun rises West sets in the East.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#465796

mitchrae3323 wrote:

> Getting on the freeway I feel opposite weight in addition to this
> backward motion. That appearance shrinks into the distance.

No, you don't feel that. To feel that you need sort of force, to impinge 
an acceleration or deceleration to your system.

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#465826

On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 11:17:42 AM UTC-7, Wayne Dial wrote:
> mitchrae3323 wrote:
> 
> > Getting on the freeway I feel opposite weight in addition to this
> > backward motion. That appearance shrinks into the distance.
> 
> No, you don't feel that. To feel that you need sort of force, to impinge 
> an acceleration or deceleration to your system.

Getting on the freeway is an acceleration.
Think about a rockets G's. They too are felt the same Wayne.
You are just claiming your own ignorance...


Mitchell Raemsch

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#465855

mitchrae3323 wrote:

> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 11:17:42 AM UTC-7, Wayne Dial wrote:
>> mitchrae3323 wrote:
>> 
>> > Getting on the freeway I feel opposite weight in addition to this
>> > backward motion. That appearance shrinks into the distance.
>> 
>> No, you don't feel that. To feel that you need sort of force, to
>> impinge an acceleration or deceleration to your system.
> 
> Getting on the freeway is an acceleration.
> Think about a rockets G's. They too are felt the same Wayne.
> You are just claiming your own ignorance...

Thank you for your input. So those G's are not about acceleration? You win 
the jackpot all the time.

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#465884

On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 2:21:28 PM UTC-7, Wayne Dial wrote:
> mitchrae3323 wrote:
> 
> > On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 11:17:42 AM UTC-7, Wayne Dial wrote:
> >> mitchrae3323 wrote:
> >> 
> >> > Getting on the freeway I feel opposite weight in addition to this
> >> > backward motion. That appearance shrinks into the distance.
> >> 
> >> No, you don't feel that. To feel that you need sort of force, to
> >> impinge an acceleration or deceleration to your system.
> > 
> > Getting on the freeway is an acceleration.
> > Think about a rockets G's. They too are felt the same Wayne.
> > You are just claiming your own ignorance...
> 
> Thank you for your input. So those G's are not about acceleration? You win 
> the jackpot all the time.

Tee Hee Hee. 

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#465891

On 25/07/2018 2:51 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 4:51:29 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 6:52:15 AM UTC-7, Wayne Dial wrote:
>>> mitchrae3323 wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Anything can have its own motion and can share motions.
>>>>> You can move yourself and you move with the Earth's double movement of
>>>>> its orbit and self rotation. Mitchell Raemsch
>>>>
>>>> Why would everything move relative to you?
>>>
>>> not everything. Your mean of transportation.
>>
>> That's sharing motion.
>> What is the relative to rotation Roy Masters?
>> If some things like rotation don't have a
>> relative then they can move of themselves.
>>
>> Mitchell Raemsch
> 
> When I begin to move I observe a backward appearance of motion
> around me. Getting on the freeway I feel opposite weight in addition
> to this backward motion.

What you feel is not the acceleration, but the force the seat is 
exerting on you.

Sylvia.

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#465892

On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 6:18:49 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 25/07/2018 2:51 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 4:51:29 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 6:52:15 AM UTC-7, Wayne Dial wrote:
> >>> mitchrae3323 wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> Anything can have its own motion and can share motions.
> >>>>> You can move yourself and you move with the Earth's double movement of
> >>>>> its orbit and self rotation. Mitchell Raemsch
> >>>>
> >>>> Why would everything move relative to you?
> >>>
> >>> not everything. Your mean of transportation.
> >>
> >> That's sharing motion.
> >> What is the relative to rotation Roy Masters?
> >> If some things like rotation don't have a
> >> relative then they can move of themselves.
> >>
> >> Mitchell Raemsch
> > 
> > When I begin to move I observe a backward appearance of motion
> > around me. Getting on the freeway I feel opposite weight in addition
> > to this backward motion.
> 
> What you feel is not the acceleration, but the force the seat is 
> exerting on you.
> 
> Sylvia.

And what force is that Roy Masters?
I didn't know a seat is actually a force Sylvia.
It's not the gravity of the Earth...

Mitchell Raemsch

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#465893

On 27/07/2018 12:39 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 6:18:49 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 25/07/2018 2:51 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 4:51:29 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 6:52:15 AM UTC-7, Wayne Dial wrote:
>>>>> mitchrae3323 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anything can have its own motion and can share motions.
>>>>>>> You can move yourself and you move with the Earth's double movement of
>>>>>>> its orbit and self rotation. Mitchell Raemsch
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why would everything move relative to you?
>>>>>
>>>>> not everything. Your mean of transportation.
>>>>
>>>> That's sharing motion.
>>>> What is the relative to rotation Roy Masters?
>>>> If some things like rotation don't have a
>>>> relative then they can move of themselves.
>>>>
>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>>
>>> When I begin to move I observe a backward appearance of motion
>>> around me. Getting on the freeway I feel opposite weight in addition
>>> to this backward motion.
>>
>> What you feel is not the acceleration, but the force the seat is
>> exerting on you.
>>
>> Sylvia.
> 
> And what force is that Roy Masters?
> I didn't know a seat is actually a force Sylvia.
> It's not the gravity of the Earth...
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch
> 

"force the seat is exerting on you"

That does not state that the seat is a force.

Sylvia.

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#465894

On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 8:01:29 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 27/07/2018 12:39 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 6:18:49 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >> On 25/07/2018 2:51 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 4:51:29 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 6:52:15 AM UTC-7, Wayne Dial wrote:
> >>>>> mitchrae3323 wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Anything can have its own motion and can share motions.
> >>>>>>> You can move yourself and you move with the Earth's double movement of
> >>>>>>> its orbit and self rotation. Mitchell Raemsch
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Why would everything move relative to you?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> not everything. Your mean of transportation.
> >>>>
> >>>> That's sharing motion.
> >>>> What is the relative to rotation Roy Masters?
> >>>> If some things like rotation don't have a
> >>>> relative then they can move of themselves.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mitchell Raemsch
> >>>
> >>> When I begin to move I observe a backward appearance of motion
> >>> around me. Getting on the freeway I feel opposite weight in addition
> >>> to this backward motion.
> >>
> >> What you feel is not the acceleration, but the force the seat is
> >> exerting on you.
> >>
> >> Sylvia.
> > 
> > And what force is that Roy Masters?
> > I didn't know a seat is actually a force Sylvia.
> > It's not the gravity of the Earth...
> > 
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> > 
> 
> "force the seat is exerting on you"
> 
> That does not state that the seat is a force.
> 
> Sylvia.

What is in the seat but weight from yours and its acceleration together?
The you and the seat have to accelerate to feel that opposite weight. You are a moron Roy Masters. You can't leave out that acceleration does the same
as gravity. It is equivalent but it is not the gravity field.

Mitchell Raemsch

Mitchell Raemsch

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#465199

On 20/07/2018 2:33 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> Begin to move and you have an opposite appearance around you
> and an opposite weight. For example accelerating onto
> the freeway you experience both opposite weight and motion
> appearance around that shrinks into the distance as size
> does. The Earth rotation causes the opposite appearance
> of it moving across the sky.
> Rolling rotation has no relative.
> You can have your own motion.
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch
> 

You can easily determine by experiment that you're rotating, and how fast.

Sylvia.

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#465557

On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 8:37:30 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 20/07/2018 2:33 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> > Begin to move and you have an opposite appearance around you
> > and an opposite weight. For example accelerating onto
> > the freeway you experience both opposite weight and motion
> > appearance around that shrinks into the distance as size
> > does. The Earth rotation causes the opposite appearance
> > of it moving across the sky.
> > Rolling rotation has no relative.
> > You can have your own motion.
> > 
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> > 
> 
> You can easily determine by experiment that you're rotating, and how fast.
> 
> Sylvia.

What is the name of the experiment that measures rotation?
The Earth's weightless rotation is detected how?
I know it slows time and gives energy by changing
position.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#465577

On 25/07/2018 2:55 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 8:37:30 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 20/07/2018 2:33 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Begin to move and you have an opposite appearance around you
>>> and an opposite weight. For example accelerating onto
>>> the freeway you experience both opposite weight and motion
>>> appearance around that shrinks into the distance as size
>>> does. The Earth rotation causes the opposite appearance
>>> of it moving across the sky.
>>> Rolling rotation has no relative.
>>> You can have your own motion.
>>>
>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>>
>>
>> You can easily determine by experiment that you're rotating, and how fast.
>>
>> Sylvia.
> 
> What is the name of the experiment that measures rotation?
> The Earth's weightless rotation is detected how?
> I know it slows time and gives energy by changing
> position.
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch
> 

Put an object at a place. Note the magnitude of the force required to 
keep it there, and the direction.

Move in the direction of the force until another object stays where it 
is placed.

The second object is at the centre of rotation.

Apply f = ω^2 * r * m

where f is the force on the first object, ω is the angular velocity, r 
is the distance between the two objects, and m is the mass of the first 
object.

You now know the angular velocity and centre of rotation.

Sylvia.

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