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| Started by | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| First post | 2018-04-13 15:03 -0400 |
| Last post | 2018-05-19 06:21 -0700 |
| Articles | 3 on this page of 63 — 18 participants |
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The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-13 15:03 -0400
The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-13 12:08 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 12:09 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-13 12:24 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-13 13:15 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-13 13:19 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-13 19:21 -0400
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 16:24 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Rusty Willard <wuut@yaiw.wu> - 2018-04-14 14:06 +0000
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-14 11:09 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-14 14:19 -0400
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-04-21 16:56 +0200
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-21 13:43 -0400
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-21 11:25 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-21 19:43 -0500
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-04-22 17:40 +0200
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-22 09:07 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-23 10:47 -0500
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-04-26 20:12 +0200
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-26 12:57 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-26 15:05 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Jim Emile <leuu@wwjw.ce> - 2018-04-27 20:42 +0000
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-27 13:57 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Erin Koff <umhn@cniwwe.im> - 2018-04-27 21:08 +0000
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-27 16:26 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Erin Koff <umhn@cniwwe.im> - 2018-04-28 11:00 +0000
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Rusty Willard <wuut@yaiw.wu> - 2018-04-13 19:22 +0000
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-13 19:24 -0400
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Libor P Striz <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2018-04-14 02:44 +0200
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Rusty Willard <wuut@yaiw.wu> - 2018-04-14 10:20 +0000
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Libor P Striz <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2018-04-14 13:32 +0200
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Rusty Willard <wuut@yaiw.wu> - 2018-04-14 13:53 +0000
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-14 14:14 -0400
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-14 14:10 -0400
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-14 11:26 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-14 11:30 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-14 11:46 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-14 11:55 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-14 12:08 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-04-14 11:59 +1000
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-13 19:02 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 20:24 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-13 22:51 -0500
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-04-17 17:26 -0700
The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-13 21:17 -0700
The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-13 21:21 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-04-14 21:00 +0200
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-14 12:15 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-14 15:28 -0400
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-14 12:50 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-14 13:05 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-04-14 22:07 +0200
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 06:14 +0100
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-05-16 13:50 +0200
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ursula Vankeuren <aln@divweo.id> - 2018-05-16 19:31 +0000
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 12:48 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-16 21:10 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 21:30 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-16 21:56 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-05-18 10:33 -0500
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-05-18 21:10 +0200
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-20 00:14 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics paul jark <jarkpaulsmith@gmail.com> - 2018-05-19 06:21 -0700
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2018-05-18 21:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <fm8mohFd8ukU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #458275 |
Am 18.05.2018 um 17:33 schrieb Tom Roberts: > On 5/16/18 11:30 PM, Steve BH wrote: >> And yet if science holds no truth, the success of technology is a >> miracle. > > Not really. We have no idea whether any current scientific theories or > models hold any "truth" (in the sense of accurately describing the > processes that nature actually uses). And we have no prospect of ever > knowing this. Well, how about my ideas: https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dd8jz2tx_3gfzvqgd6 > > But we do know that science has produced a series of ever-improving > MODELS of the world, and these models are now very accurate in many > domains of interest, leading to the technology you think is a "miracle" > without "truth". In truth (pun intended), good models are good enough -- > which is fortunate for us humans, as that is the best we can ever > achieve about the world we inhabit. If you want models, than it could get a little tough. The reason: we can understand processes, which we cannot model. The best example is weather (but there are other). > > Humans survive in the world via models of it. No. Humans survive because they have shelter, water and something to eat. Models about the physical world are not really a necessity of life. > Think about how > you find your bed at night, and you'll realize that you have a > mental model of your domicile, and to go to bed you first > mentally traverse that model, and then manipulate your body > correspondingly. This is beyond the level of 'nerd-think', we could see in 'big-bang theory'. TH
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| From | mlwozniak@wp.pl |
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| Date | 2018-05-20 00:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <803f52d6-8a08-4f7b-b754-902b5de8ab63@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #458275 |
On Friday, 18 May 2018 17:33:29 UTC+2, tjrob137 wrote: > On 5/16/18 11:30 PM, Steve BH wrote: > > And yet if science holds no truth, the success of technology is a miracle. > > Not really. We have no idea whether any current scientific theories or models > hold any "truth" (in the sense of accurately describing the processes that > nature actually uses). And we have no prospect of ever knowing this. Oh, of course you don't. You're soooo dumb. > But we do know that science has produced a series of ever-improving MODELS of > the world, and these models are now very accurate in many domains of interest, leading to the technology you think is a "miracle" without "truth". Unfortunately, when talking about The Shit o ingenious Einstein, you left us no choice. To keep OUR technology working WE had to piss at YOUR idiocies. In truth > (pun intended), good models are good enough And pieces of shit are pieces of shit, poor idiot.
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| From | paul jark <jarkpaulsmith@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-19 06:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0efa7880-bd19-49e8-abfb-c192083141ea@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #455854 |
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