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Michelson's experiment

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First post2016-12-09 19:44 -0800
Last post2017-01-10 23:34 -0800
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  Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-09 19:44 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-09 19:48 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-10 06:21 +0100
      Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-09 21:26 -0800
      Re: Michelson's experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-10 08:58 -0600
        Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-10 07:45 -0800
        Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-10 08:09 -0800
          Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-10 08:12 -0800
          Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-10 08:20 -0800
            Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-10 08:46 -0800
              Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-10 08:48 -0800
              Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-10 09:31 -0800
        Re: Michelson's experiment Estrella Batey <yeaetl@sryeaet.org> - 2016-12-10 19:58 +0000
          Re: Michelson's experiment Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2016-12-10 22:38 +0100
            Re: Michelson's experiment benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-12-10 18:29 -0500
            Re: Michelson's experiment Lauretta Nagle <uattea@aeuatte.au> - 2016-12-16 18:26 +0000
        Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-10 13:44 -0800
          Re: Michelson's experiment benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-12-10 18:30 -0500
          Re: Michelson's experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-10 16:24 -0800
          Re: Michelson's experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-11 09:50 -0600
            Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-12 05:15 -0800
              Re: Michelson's experiment Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-12-12 14:49 +0100
                Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-12 08:08 -0800
                  Re: Michelson's experiment Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-12-12 17:42 +0100
                    Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-12 10:47 -0800
                      Re: Michelson's experiment Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-12-12 21:50 +0100
                        Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-12 23:17 -0800
                          Re: Michelson's experiment Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-12-13 08:37 +0100
                            Re: Michelson's experiment Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-12-13 08:48 +0100
                              Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-13 00:17 -0800
                              Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-13 00:30 -0800
                                Re: Michelson's experiment Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-12-13 10:39 +0100
                                  Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-13 01:49 -0800
                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-12-13 11:26 +0100
                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-12-13 03:03 -0800
                                      Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-13 10:21 -0800
                                      Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-13 10:33 -0800
                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-12-14 08:14 +0100
                                          Re: Michelson's experiment Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-12-14 11:14 +0100
                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Odilia Blatt <ttaliol@itrh3gdit.org> - 2016-12-14 17:59 +0000
                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-12-14 19:22 +0100
                                          Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-14 06:11 -0800
                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-12-14 15:44 +0100
                                              Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-14 06:49 -0800
                                              Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-14 07:23 -0800
                                                Re: Michelson's experiment paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-12-14 07:48 -0800
                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-14 12:58 -0800
                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-12-14 13:09 -0800
                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-14 17:18 -0600
                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-15 00:19 -0800
                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-12-15 02:17 -0800
                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-12-14 13:10 -0800
                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-15 00:08 -0800
                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-12-15 03:40 -0800
                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-15 10:41 -0800
                                                Re: Michelson's experiment Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-12-14 16:49 +0100
                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-14 08:19 -0800
                                  Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-13 04:51 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment eckard.blumschein@arcor.de - 2017-01-02 12:42 -0800
                  Re: Michelson's experiment alsor@interia.pl - 2017-01-02 12:53 -0800
                  Re: Michelson's experiment Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 21:58 +0100
                    Re: Michelson's experiment Demetrice Barren <teercere@tmerunin.tme> - 2017-01-02 21:14 +0000
                    Re: Michelson's experiment eckard.blumschein@arcor.de - 2017-01-02 21:22 -0800
                      Re: Michelson's experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-01-03 00:36 -0600
                        Re: Michelson's experiment Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 08:40 +0100
                          Re: Michelson's experiment Aubrey Primmer <myr@ejmr.info> - 2017-01-06 15:40 +0000
                      Re: Michelson's experiment Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 08:26 +0100
                    Re: Michelson's experiment Eckard B <eckard.blumschein@arcor.de> - 2017-01-09 06:53 -0800
                      Re: Michelson's experiment Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 16:47 +0100
                        Re: Michelson's experiment Eckard B <eckard.blumschein@arcor.de> - 2017-01-10 23:09 -0800
                          Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 09:12 -0600
                            Re: Michelson's experiment Eckard B <eckard.blumschein@arcor.de> - 2017-01-11 08:05 -0800
              Re: Michelson's experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-12 11:29 -0600
                Re: Michelson's experiment alsor@interia.pl - 2016-12-12 10:05 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-12 11:50 -0800
                  Re: Michelson's experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-12 16:59 -0600
                    Re: Michelson's experiment Estrella Batey <yeaetl@sryeaet.org> - 2016-12-13 00:19 +0000
                    Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-12 22:43 -0800
                      Re: Michelson's experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-13 18:53 -0600
                        Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-14 07:54 -0800
                    Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-12 23:21 -0800
        Re: Michelson's experiment Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-11 04:29 +0100
          Re: Michelson's experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-10 19:37 -0800
            Re: Michelson's experiment Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-11 09:20 +0100
              Re: Michelson's experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-11 20:25 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-12 06:31 +0100
                  Re: Michelson's experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-11 23:58 -0600
                    Re: Michelson's experiment Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-12 07:47 +0100
                      Re: Michelson's experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-12-11 23:18 -0800
                        Re: Michelson's experiment Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-13 06:25 +0100
                          Re: Michelson's experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-12-13 01:42 -0800
                            Re: Michelson's experiment Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-13 22:29 +0100
                              Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-13 15:01 -0800
                                Re: Michelson's experiment Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-15 06:08 +0100
                                  Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-14 21:46 -0800
                                    Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-14 22:05 -0800
                                  Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-15 05:10 -0800
                              Re: Michelson's experiment Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-14 06:08 +0100
                                Re: Michelson's experiment Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-14 07:42 +0100
                          Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-13 05:25 -0800
                      Re: Michelson's experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-12 12:51 -0600
                        Re: Michelson's experiment Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-13 06:12 +0100
                          Re: Michelson's experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-13 18:53 -0800
                      Re: Michelson's experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-13 20:46 -0600
                  Re: Michelson's experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-12 07:35 -0800
                  Re: Michelson's experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-12 07:42 -0800
          Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-10 20:27 -0800
            Re: Michelson's experiment Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-11 09:38 +0100
              Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-11 05:25 -0800
          Re: Michelson's experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-11 11:47 -0600
            Re: Michelson's experiment Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-11 20:59 +0100
              Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-11 12:47 -0800
              Re: Michelson's experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-11 16:40 -0600
                Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-11 14:52 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-12 01:32 +0100
    Re: Michelson's experiment alsor@interia.pl - 2016-12-10 10:51 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-10 12:45 -0800
      Re: Michelson's experiment alsor@interia.pl - 2016-12-10 13:11 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-10 12:49 -0800
      Re: Michelson's experiment benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-12-10 18:25 -0500
        Re: Michelson's experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-10 19:23 -0600
          Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-10 18:42 -0800
            Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-10 18:53 -0800
              Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-10 19:02 -0800
          Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-11 00:46 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-10 14:52 -0800
      Re: Michelson's experiment alsor@interia.pl - 2016-12-11 16:09 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-10 15:40 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-12 13:41 -0800
      Re: Michelson's experiment alsor@interia.pl - 2016-12-12 16:56 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-12 15:04 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-12 17:02 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-12 17:49 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-12 17:49 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-13 13:46 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-13 13:55 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-13 17:18 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-13 17:21 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-13 17:24 -0800
      Re: Michelson's experiment John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2016-12-13 20:28 -0800
        Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-13 20:55 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-14 15:31 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-14 17:32 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-14 17:36 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-14 17:38 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-14 17:43 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-14 17:58 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-14 18:11 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-15 12:56 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-15 13:00 -0800
      Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-16 03:48 -0800
        Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-16 14:04 +0100
          Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-16 07:34 -0800
            Crackpot Jay Moseley full blown "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-16 07:48 -0800
              Crackpot Jay Moseley full blown jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-17 12:02 -0800
                Re: Crackpot Jay Moseley full blown Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-18 10:57 -0600
                  Re: Crackpot Jay Moseley full blown jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-18 13:20 -0800
                Re: Crackpot Jay Moseley full blown "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-18 21:45 -0800
            Re: Michelson's experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-18 10:55 -0600
              Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-18 12:40 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-19 16:04 +0100
                  Re: Michelson's experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-20 09:59 -0600
                  Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-20 13:52 -0800
                  Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-20 23:54 -0800
                    Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-21 11:41 +0100
                      Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-21 03:17 -0800
                        Re: Michelson's experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-21 03:43 -0800
                          Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-21 03:47 -0800
                            Re: Michelson's experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-21 04:56 -0800
                              Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-21 05:26 -0800
                                Re: Michelson's experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-21 11:44 -0800
                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Jacquelyn Schiffer <euefhqheeoeeSfaJn@euefhqhee.eeSfaJn.eue> - 2016-12-21 20:06 +0000
                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-21 19:18 -0800
                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Darleen Sloop <aolenD@nedfdealln.org> - 2016-12-22 21:15 +0000
                      Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-21 05:39 -0800
                        Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-21 19:02 +0100
                          Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-21 11:02 -0800
                            Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-22 15:03 +0100
                              Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-22 14:35 -0800
                                Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-28 14:24 -0800
                                  Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-29 10:50 +0100
                                    Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-29 07:04 -0800
                                      Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-29 23:11 +0100
                                        Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-29 16:38 -0800
                                          Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-31 13:43 +0100
                                            Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-31 11:44 -0800
                                              Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-01-01 15:10 +0100
                                                Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2017-01-01 09:18 -0800
                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-01-01 22:14 +0100
                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2017-01-02 21:11 -0800
                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-01-03 16:10 +0100
                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2017-01-05 14:11 -0800
                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-01-06 15:40 +0100
                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2017-01-08 02:49 -0800
                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-01-08 14:11 +0100
                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2017-01-08 07:23 -0800
                                                                  Autistic imbecile Jay Moseley keeps advertising his imbecility "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-08 07:29 -0800
                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-01-08 21:37 +0100
                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2017-01-08 13:33 -0800
                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-01-09 09:32 +0100
                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2017-01-09 07:48 -0800
                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-01-09 22:20 +0100
                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2017-01-09 23:09 -0800
                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-01-10 11:29 +0100
                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment matt.rush200@outlook.com - 2017-01-10 03:25 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-01-10 21:40 +0100
                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment matt.rush200@outlook.com - 2017-01-10 13:56 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Jaqueline Yoho <eau@oeJqq.org> - 2017-01-10 22:16 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-01-11 11:17 +0100
                                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment matt.rush200@outlook.com - 2017-01-11 05:12 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-01-11 19:36 +0100
                                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Debbra Herrin <debhe@eeeeneoaa.org> - 2017-01-11 19:22 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment matt.rush200@outlook.com - 2017-01-11 07:20 -0800
                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-01-10 11:30 +0100
                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment matt.rush200@outlook.com - 2017-01-10 02:58 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-01-10 21:33 +0100
                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-01-10 23:10 +0100
                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-01-11 11:16 +0100
                                                  Jay Moseley advertises his imbecility "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-02 08:16 -0800
                                Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-28 21:13 +0100
                    Cretin Jay Moseley perseveres "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-21 06:01 -0800
                      Cretin Jay Moseley perseveres jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-21 09:04 -0800
                        Re: Cretin Jay Moseley perseveres "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-21 09:50 -0800
              Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-18 12:59 -0800
            Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-19 15:11 +0100
              Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-20 09:36 -0800
        Idiot Jay Moseley keeps embarrassing the UK "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-16 07:12 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-15 13:13 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-15 14:00 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment furthermore123456@gmail.com - 2016-12-17 13:12 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-20 09:54 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-21 08:04 -0800
      Robert Winn cretin is back "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-21 08:31 -0800
        Re: Robert Winn cretin is back Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-21 09:09 -0800
      Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2016-12-21 19:51 +0100
        Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 02:00 -0800
          Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2016-12-22 12:22 +0100
            Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-22 03:41 -0800
              Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 07:58 -0800
            Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 07:53 -0800
              Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2016-12-22 17:21 +0100
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 09:19 -0800
                  Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2016-12-22 18:33 +0100
                    Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 10:34 -0800
                      Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2016-12-22 19:43 +0100
                        Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 12:11 -0800
                          Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2016-12-22 21:18 +0100
                            Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 13:24 -0800
                              Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2016-12-22 22:35 +0100
                                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 14:50 -0800
                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2016-12-23 00:41 +0100
                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 16:58 -0800
                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2016-12-23 03:28 +0100
                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 19:19 -0800
                                          Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2016-12-23 11:13 +0100
                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 07:18 -0800
                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2016-12-23 16:36 +0100
                                                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 08:30 -0800
                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2016-12-23 17:45 +0100
                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 10:29 -0800
                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2016-12-23 19:35 +0100
                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 11:29 -0800
                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 11:29 -0800
                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 12:37 -0800
                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-23 10:43 -0800
                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 11:35 -0800
                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-23 12:45 -0800
                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 12:49 -0800
                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-23 13:08 -0800
                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 13:20 -0800
                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 09:18 -0600
                                                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 18:53 -0800
                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-29 07:29 -0800
                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment 01405 <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 11:43 -0800
                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment alsor@interia.pl - 2017-01-02 11:59 -0800
                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 13:57 -0600
                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 12:17 -0800
                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 15:41 -0600
                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-03 14:26 -0800
                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 14:44 -0800
                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment xxein1@att.net - 2017-01-03 22:20 -0800
                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 08:03 -0800
                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 10:45 -0600
                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 13:15 -0800
                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 15:34 -0600
                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 15:46 -0800
                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 09:38 -0600
                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 08:17 -0800
                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 07:08 -0600
                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 08:40 -0800
                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 10:46 -0600
                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:33 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 12:21 -0600
                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 21:56 -0800
                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 15:47 -0600
                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 15:40 -0800
                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 20:12 -0600
                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-01-10 18:37 -0500
                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-10 15:58 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-10 16:33 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 17:23 -0800
                                                                                    CRETIN Robert Winn at work "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-10 17:27 -0800
                                                                                      Re: CRETIN Robert Winn at work Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 19:00 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-10 19:41 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 20:09 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-10 20:46 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 23:23 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-11 04:17 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-11 04:35 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 06:12 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 06:43 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-11 06:47 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 07:52 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 09:07 -0600
                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 08:19 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 17:35 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 20:54 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 08:17 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 08:30 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 10:42 -0600
                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 09:14 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 09:48 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 09:54 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 10:13 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 11:01 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 11:05 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 12:09 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 13:43 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 08:19 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 08:31 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 17:36 -0600
                                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-11 12:10 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 12:13 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 12:27 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-11 20:43 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-11 12:48 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 13:18 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-11 13:47 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Ward Nusbaum <uqowm@msdmmsuus.org> - 2017-01-11 21:56 +0000
                                                                                            Rober Winn, the village idiot "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-11 06:58 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Rober Winn, the village idiot Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 08:18 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Rober Winn, the village idiot "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-11 08:37 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 09:04 -0600
                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-01-05 20:45 -0600
                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment xxein1@att.net - 2017-01-06 16:53 -0800
                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-06 17:31 -0800
                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment xxein1@att.net - 2017-01-06 18:28 -0800
                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-06 19:13 -0800
                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-06 19:20 -0800
                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment xxein1@att.net - 2017-01-07 13:08 -0800
                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-07 14:17 -0800
                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment xxein1@att.net - 2017-01-07 15:39 -0800
                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-07 18:10 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-07 18:28 -0800
                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-01-08 08:54 -0600
                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment xxein1@att.net - 2017-01-09 06:12 -0800
                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-09 06:48 -0800
                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 10:10 -0600
                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 13:08 -0800
                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 15:28 -0600
                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-04 13:54 -0800
                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-01-04 23:29 +0100
                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 16:42 -0600
                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 17:06 -0800
                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 20:16 -0800
                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 09:47 -0600
                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 09:33 -0800
                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 07:08 -0600
                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 08:43 -0800
                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-06 08:48 -0800
                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 10:53 -0600
                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:34 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 12:22 -0600
                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 15:43 -0800
                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-04 16:19 -0800
                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 16:49 -0800
                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-04 17:57 -0800
                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 20:19 -0800
                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-04 20:23 -0800
                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 21:28 -0800
                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-05 05:13 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-05 06:20 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 07:35 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 07:21 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 08:06 -0600
                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-05 07:06 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 07:43 -0800
                                                                                    Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-05 08:10 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 09:42 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-05 09:46 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 10:06 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 10:07 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-05 10:24 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 11:40 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-05 14:03 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 15:14 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-06 04:31 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 08:25 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-06 08:30 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-05 14:11 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 15:16 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-05 15:23 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 15:53 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-05 16:10 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 17:42 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-05 17:55 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 19:35 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-05 19:46 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 20:52 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-05 21:07 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-06 04:46 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 08:38 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 07:42 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-06 08:14 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-06 08:22 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 10:23 -0600
                                                                                                                          Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-06 08:31 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:31 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 12:17 -0600
                                                                                                                        Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Aubrey Primmer <myr@ejmr.info> - 2017-01-06 16:23 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:21 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Eckard B <eckard.blumschein@arcor.de> - 2017-01-09 07:04 -0800
                                                                                                                    Imbecile Eckard B. perseveres "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-09 07:09 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 15:50 -0600
                                                                                                                      Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 15:41 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 20:27 -0600
                                                                                                                          Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 20:31 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-09 21:07 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 07:30 -0600
                                                                                                                              Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 06:00 -0800
                                                                                                                                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 08:38 -0600
                                                                                                                                  Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-10 06:47 -0800
                                                                                                                                  Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 07:08 -0800
                                                                                                                                    Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-10 07:14 -0800
                                                                                                                                    Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 10:57 -0600
                                                                                                                                      Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 09:10 -0800
                                                                                                                                        Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 08:54 -0600
                                                                                                                                          Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 08:07 -0800
                                                                                                                                            Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 17:34 -0600
                                                                                                                                              Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 20:50 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-11 21:01 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 08:20 -0600
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 08:32 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 10:38 -0600
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 11:26 -0800
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 14:07 -0600
                                                                                                                                            Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 17:35 -0600
                                                                                                                                              Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 21:00 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 08:23 -0600
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 08:34 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 12:09 -0600
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 14:38 -0800
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-17 07:26 -0600
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-17 07:12 -0800
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-17 11:15 -0600
                                                                                                                                      Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 14:17 -0800
                                                                                                                                        Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-10 15:05 -0800
                                                                                                                                          Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 17:17 -0800
                                                                                                                                            Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-10 17:23 -0800
                                                                                                                                              Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 18:59 -0800
                                                                                                                                        Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 08:55 -0600
                                                                                                                                          Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 08:16 -0800
                                                                                                                                            Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 17:35 -0600
                                                                                                                                              Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 20:57 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-11 21:03 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 08:23 -0600
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 08:36 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 14:06 -0600
                                                                                                                          Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 20:46 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-09 21:10 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 05:58 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 08:33 -0600
                                                                                                                              Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 07:08 -0800
                                                                                                                                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 10:59 -0600
                                                                                                                                  Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 09:14 -0800
                                                                                                                                    Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 15:38 -0600
                                                                                                                                      Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 15:26 -0800
                                                                                                                                        Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 17:37 -0600
                                                                                                                                          Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 17:08 -0800
                                                                                                                                            Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Reid Schaffner <dnfoonio@acdnfni.info> - 2017-01-14 01:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 19:36 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Reid Schaffner <dnfoonio@acdnfni.info> - 2017-01-14 17:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 12:34 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-17 08:11 -0800
                                                                                                                                            Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 14:28 -0600
                                                                                                                                              Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 12:46 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-15 13:52 -0600
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-15 19:33 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 09:33 -0600
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 08:45 -0800
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 11:26 -0600
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 14:27 -0800
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-17 12:15 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-18 06:50 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-18 06:54 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-18 09:24 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-18 13:36 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-19 06:05 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-19 08:35 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-21 01:30 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-21 05:16 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-19 06:15 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-19 08:36 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-01-20 19:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-21 05:27 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-23 08:41 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-24 05:35 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 07:49 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Reid Schaffner <dnfoonio@acdnfni.info> - 2017-01-18 22:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-19 06:20 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 07:18 -0600
                                                                                                              Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:19 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-06 09:27 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Aubrey Primmer <myr@ejmr.info> - 2017-01-06 17:36 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 10:19 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 12:30 -0600
                                                                                                                      Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 13:28 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 15:36 -0600
                                                                                                                          Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 18:25 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 13:42 -0600
                                                                                                                              Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 12:56 -0800
                                                                                                                                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 14:37 -0600
                                                                                                                                  Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 13:08 -0800
                                                                                                                                    Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 15:40 -0600
                                                                                                                                      Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 15:24 -0800
                                                                                                                                        Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 20:25 -0600
                                                                                                                                          Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 20:30 -0800
                                                                                                                                            Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 08:20 -0600
                                                                                                                                              Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 07:04 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-06 09:43 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 10:22 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 12:14 -0600
                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 10:07 -0600
                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 09:41 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 07:08 -0600
                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:10 -0800
                                                                                        CRETIN Robert Winn perseveres in his imbecility. "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-06 09:24 -0800
                                                                                          Re: CRETIN Robert Winn perseveres in his imbecility. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:35 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-01-06 18:39 +0100
                                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 10:21 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-01-06 23:23 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 19:06 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-01-07 04:17 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-01-07 04:32 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 22:35 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-01-07 19:48 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 12:42 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-01-07 21:52 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 13:32 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-01-07 22:55 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 21:05 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-01-08 07:07 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 08:57 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-01-08 18:44 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 10:25 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-01-08 19:36 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 11:12 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-01-08 20:20 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 18:36 -0800
                                                                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-01-09 03:42 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 18:47 -0800
                                                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-01-09 03:57 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-01-07 23:12 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 21:32 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-01-08 07:01 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 08:55 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-01-08 18:41 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 10:21 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-01-08 19:34 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 11:11 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-01-08 20:18 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-08 11:22 -0800
                                                                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 18:38 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 18:35 -0800
                                                                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-01-09 03:39 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 18:44 -0800
                                                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-01-09 03:51 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 19:44 -0800
                                                                                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-01-09 13:49 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 05:32 -0800
                                                                                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-01-09 14:42 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 05:59 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 06:50 -0800
                                                                                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 06:44 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-01-09 16:00 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 07:12 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-01-09 16:15 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 08:11 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 12:02 -0600
                                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 10:29 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 12:34 -0600
                                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-06 12:40 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 13:31 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 15:41 -0600
                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 18:40 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 13:47 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 13:04 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-01-07 22:16 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 21:01 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-01-08 06:40 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 08:45 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 14:34 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 13:03 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 15:38 -0600
                                                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 15:16 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-09 15:42 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 20:20 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 20:14 -0600
                                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 20:45 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 07:35 -0600
                                                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 06:03 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 08:40 -0600
                                                                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-10 06:50 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 07:09 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 10:55 -0600
                                                                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 09:08 -0800
                                                                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-10 09:19 -0800
                                                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 12:23 -0800
                                                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-10 13:12 -0800
                                                                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 13:39 -0800
                                                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 08:54 -0600
                                                                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 08:09 -0800
                                                                                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 17:34 -0600
                                                                                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 20:52 -0800
                                                                                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-11 21:02 -0800
                                                                                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 08:14 -0600
                                                                                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 08:27 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 10:40 -0600
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 11:30 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 14:07 -0600
                                                                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 08:54 -0600
                                                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 07:54 -0800
                                                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 10:05 -0600
                                                                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 09:17 -0800
                                                                                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 17:38 -0600
                                                                                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 21:01 -0800
                                                                                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-11 21:09 -0800
                                                                                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 08:16 -0600
                                                                                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-12 06:27 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-01-12 17:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 08:28 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 10:41 -0600
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 11:31 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-12 11:53 -0800
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 12:50 -0800
                                                                                                                                                        Cretin Robert Winn inserts foot in mouth. Deep. "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-12 15:06 -0800
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Cretin Robert Winn inserts foot in mouth. Deep. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 15:08 -0800
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Cretin Robert Winn inserts foot in mouth. Deep. "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-12 15:19 -0800
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Cretin Robert Winn inserts foot in mouth. Deep. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 15:21 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 14:07 -0600
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 15:23 -0800
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 17:43 -0600
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 17:29 -0800
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 14:31 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 12:51 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-15 13:49 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-15 12:21 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-15 19:31 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-15 19:58 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-15 21:06 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-16 04:11 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-16 04:27 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-15 22:57 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 09:38 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-16 08:02 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 06:15 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-16 06:24 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 06:52 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-16 07:25 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 09:54 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 08:57 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 11:28 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 14:32 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-16 14:47 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 20:47 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-17 04:36 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-17 05:08 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-17 07:08 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-17 08:39 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-17 07:32 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-17 07:30 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-17 07:19 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-17 10:50 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-17 08:07 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-17 10:51 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-17 10:07 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-17 12:17 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-18 06:55 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-18 09:25 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-18 03:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-18 06:29 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-18 09:26 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-18 09:19 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-18 11:51 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-18 13:19 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-18 15:28 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-18 14:35 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-23 08:04 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-23 06:45 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-23 07:17 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-23 10:39 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-23 19:44 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 07:12 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 07:03 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-01-24 16:24 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 11:03 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-01-24 20:17 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-24 12:20 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 17:32 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 17:34 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-01-25 02:53 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 22:34 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 08:34 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-16 14:26 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 14:42 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Michelson's experiment paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 16:58 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 20:48 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 09:44 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 08:47 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 11:31 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-16 09:44 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 14:34 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-16 15:10 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-17 07:34 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Michelson's experiment kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-17 07:56 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Michelson's experiment kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-17 07:50 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-01-10 18:32 -0500
                                                                                                Imbecile Rober Winn spouts new idiocies "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-06 14:42 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Imbecile Rober Winn spouts new idiocies Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 19:08 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Imbecile Rober Winn spouts new idiocies "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-06 19:15 -0800
                                                                    Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 09:36 -0600
                                                                      Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 08:11 -0800
                                                  Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-29 07:18 -0600
        Re: Michelson's experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2016-12-23 13:10 +0100
          Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 07:29 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-21 11:03 -0800
      Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 02:30 -0800
    Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-09 07:18 -0800
      Re: Michelson's experiment xxein1@att.net - 2017-01-09 18:53 -0800
        Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-09 19:00 -0800
          Re: Michelson's experiment xxein1@att.net - 2017-01-09 20:51 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment Eckard B <eckard.blumschein@arcor.de> - 2017-01-10 23:34 -0800

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#401597

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2016-12-12 23:21 -0800
Message-ID<c7888541-4218-4597-a7dc-750a58196834@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#401551
W dniu poniedziałek, 12 grudnia 2016 23:59:58 UTC+1 użytkownik tjrob137 napisał:
> 	Hint: mathematical theorems and scientific theories are eternal.
> 	They are discovered or first proven on some date, but they
> 	themselves are not limited chronologically.


Just some posts above we can read:

>Again, you do not understand science. In science, there is no possibility of
>"proof" -- that is for mathematics, not science.

I always knew you don't really believe these
wise things of models you sometimes write.

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#401337

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-12-11 04:29 +0100
Message-ID<eb3vhcF92maU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#401277
Am 10.12.2016 15:58, schrieb Tom Roberts:

>> Apparently the debate phase among theoretical physicists is still
>> going on. So
>> we have to wait another century, until they decide about how to
>> interpret this
>> experiment.
>
> Nope. This is merely your FANTASY, which seems to be shared by many
> fools and idiots around here. It is based purely on IGNORANCE. Among
> PHYSICISTS there is no "debate".

Yes.

But somehow I think, there should be a debate.

So it took a century and a few decades, in which physicist have not 
solved the riddle.

Eventually some kind of discussion would be helpful.

I for my side would say, that horizontal rotation of the device would 
not be subject to changes, because 'ether' is not supposed to blow over 
the surface of the Earth.

Somehow we would experience changes in daily life, if there would be a 
'ether drift', blowing past the Earth.

But vertical 'ether drift' could be possible. And - as a matter of fact 
- the vertical version of the MMX had shown an effect.


TH

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#401338

From"Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net>
Date2016-12-10 19:37 -0800
Message-ID<159dc397-4b37-44da-86ac-8ef1fd525df3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#401337
On Saturday, December 10, 2016 at 7:29:52 PM UTC-8, Thomas Heger wrote:
> And - as a matter of fact the vertical version of the MMX had shown an effect.
No, it hasn't, crank.

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#401342

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-12-11 09:20 +0100
Message-ID<eb4gi9Fck1eU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#401338
Am 11.12.2016 04:37, schrieb Dono,:
> On Saturday, December 10, 2016 at 7:29:52 PM UTC-8, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> And - as a matter of fact the vertical version of the MMX had shown an effect.
> No, it hasn't, crank.
>

Extended Michelson-Morley Interferometer experiment. English version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T0d7o8X2-E


TH

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#401438

From"Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net>
Date2016-12-11 20:25 -0800
Message-ID<a6929d0e-0237-4f9e-af01-b9a8c6f28fdf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#401342
On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 12:20:28 AM UTC-8, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 11.12.2016 04:37, schrieb Dono,:
> > On Saturday, December 10, 2016 at 7:29:52 PM UTC-8, Thomas Heger wrote:
> >> And - as a matter of fact the vertical version of the MMX had shown an effect.
> > No, it hasn't, crank.
> >
> 
> Extended Michelson-Morley Interferometer experiment. English version
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T0d7o8X2-E
> 
> 
> TH

This is the idiocy posted by Martin Grusenik. 

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#401441

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-12-12 06:31 +0100
Message-ID<eb6r1sFtridU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#401438
Am 12.12.2016 05:25, schrieb Dono,:

>>>> And - as a matter of fact the vertical version of the MMX had shown an effect.
>>> No, it hasn't, crank.
>>>
>>
>> Extended Michelson-Morley Interferometer experiment. English version
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T0d7o8X2-E
>>
>>
>> TH
>
> This is the idiocy posted by Martin Grusenik.


Well, the video was created by Martin Grusenick. But it's by no means 
idiotic.

Since if there is a vertical effect, this would render the MMX 
experiment useless for its intended purpose.

We know from other circumstances, that gravity has an effect on light. 
E.g. there was the famous experiment at the Harvard towers. Or we have 
GR and 'gravitational lensing'.

So an effect of gravity on light is not obviously impossible, hence an 
experiment to detect and/or measure it is plausible - or at least not 
'idiotic'.


TH

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#401443

FromTom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net>
Date2016-12-11 23:58 -0600
Message-ID<N46dnc2XjpAYodPFnZ2dnUU7_83NnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#401441
On 12/11/16 12/11/16   11:31 PM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 12.12.2016 05:25, schrieb Dono,:
>> This is the idiocy posted by Martin Grusenik.
>
> Well, the video was created by Martin Grusenick. But it's by no means idiotic.
> [...]
> We know from other circumstances, that gravity has an effect on light. E.g.
> there was the famous experiment at the Harvard towers. [...]

Yes. And from that experiment we know that effect is TRILLIONS OF TIMES SMALLER 
than Grusenick's apparatus could possibly detect.

	Why do you think Pound, Snider, and Rebka used a complex but
	ultra-sensitive Moessbauer apparatus, rather than the much
	simpler but vastly less sensitive Michelson interferometer???

> So an effect of gravity on light is not obviously impossible, hence an
> experiment to detect and/or measure it is plausible - or at least not 'idiotic'.

An experiment with a KNOWN BACKGROUND that is TRILLIONS of times larger than the 
expected effect is indeed idiotic.

	Hint: if the effect you fantasize about were indeed trillions of
	times larger than GR predicts, and thus big enough that Grusenick
	could see it, essentially none of the experiments that have
	confirmed GR could possibly have done so; especially the "famous
	experiment at the Harvard towers [sic]".

You keep forgetting that physics is a QUANTITATIVE science. Just "there is an 
effect" is woefully insufficient -- you must COMPUTE (or at least estimate) how 
large the effect might be. In this case it is straightforward to do so, and your 
fantasies are HOPELESS. By a factor of TRILLIONS.

Tom Roberts

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#401450

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-12-12 07:47 +0100
Message-ID<eb6vg2F8ulU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#401443
Am 12.12.2016 06:58, schrieb Tom Roberts:

>> Well, the video was created by Martin Grusenick. But it's by no means
>> idiotic.
>> [...]
>> We know from other circumstances, that gravity has an effect on light.
>> E.g.
>> there was the famous experiment at the Harvard towers. [...]
>
> Yes. And from that experiment we know that effect is TRILLIONS OF TIMES
> SMALLER than Grusenick's apparatus could possibly detect.
>
> Why do you think Pound, Snider, and Rebka used a complex but
> ultra-sensitive Moessbauer apparatus, rather than the much
> simpler but vastly less sensitive Michelson interferometer???
>
>> So an effect of gravity on light is not obviously impossible, hence an
>> experiment to detect and/or measure it is plausible - or at least not
>> 'idiotic'.
>
> An experiment with a KNOWN BACKGROUND that is TRILLIONS of times larger
> than the expected effect is indeed idiotic.
>
> Hint: if the effect you fantasize about were indeed trillions of
> times larger than GR predicts, and thus big enough that Grusenick
> could see it, essentially none of the experiments that have
> confirmed GR could possibly have done so; especially the "famous
> experiment at the Harvard towers [sic]".
>
> You keep forgetting that physics is a QUANTITATIVE science. Just "there
> is an effect" is woefully insufficient -- you must COMPUTE (or at least
> estimate) how large the effect might be. In this case it is
> straightforward to do so, and your fantasies are HOPELESS. By a factor
> of TRILLIONS.

If the device of Mr. Grusenick was too flimsy, than make a better one.

But you and 'Dono' wrote, the experiment was idiotic.

No! It was an experiment by a young student with a low budget, but it 
was not at all idiotic.

Supposed there is an effect, which could be measured by a vertical 
Michelson interferometer, than a device should be more rigid and should 
somehow compensate the elongation of its part by its own weight.

This sounds possible to me and I don't see any unsolvable problems with it.

This is so because the relevant parts of the device are very small and 
have almost no weight at all ( only tiny mirrors).


TH

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#401453

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-11 23:18 -0800
Message-ID<b10d82d2-fe93-4872-937e-4a479b4568e3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#401450
On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 12:47:34 AM UTC-6, Thomas Heger wrote:

> If the device of Mr. Grusenick was too flimsy, than make a better one.
> 
> But you and 'Dono' wrote, the experiment was idiotic.
> 
> No! It was an experiment by a young student with a low budget, but it 
> was not at all idiotic.
>
> Supposed there is an effect, which could be measured by a vertical 
> Michelson interferometer, than a device should be more rigid and should 
> somehow compensate the elongation of its part by its own weight.
> 
> This sounds possible to me and I don't see any unsolvable problems with it.
> 
> This is so because the relevant parts of the device are very small and 
> have almost no weight at all ( only tiny mirrors).

There is no solution:
-No weight at all means no strength at all = unacceptable sag.
-Strong and rugged means heavy weight = unacceptable sag.
-Active feedback control to compensate for distance changes requires 
 measurements that are susceptible to the same effects as those that are 
 intended to be measured.
-Taking into free fall orbit would eliminate sag, but would also eliminate the
 effect to be measured.

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#401584

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-12-13 06:25 +0100
Message-ID<eb9f2bFiocqU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#401453
Am 12.12.2016 08:18, schrieb Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog:

>> If the device of Mr. Grusenick was too flimsy, than make a better one.
>>
>> But you and 'Dono' wrote, the experiment was idiotic.
>>
>> No! It was an experiment by a young student with a low budget, but it
>> was not at all idiotic.
>>
>> Supposed there is an effect, which could be measured by a vertical
>> Michelson interferometer, than a device should be more rigid and should
>> somehow compensate the elongation of its part by its own weight.
>>
>> This sounds possible to me and I don't see any unsolvable problems with it.
>>
>> This is so because the relevant parts of the device are very small and
>> have almost no weight at all ( only tiny mirrors).
>
> There is no solution:
> -No weight at all means no strength at all = unacceptable sag.

In an interferometer the most of parts do not sit at the end of a long 
tube. Only the mirrors would need some kind of support.

The other parts could be mounted near to the centre and there is no 
problem with weight.

A mirror is not a particular heavy part and it is not subject to any 
kind of stress.

So a tiny extra-light mirror at the end of an extra-rigid construction 
would do.

Why should that be impossible?


> -Strong and rugged means heavy weight = unacceptable sag.
> -Active feedback control to compensate for distance changes requires
>   measurements that are susceptible to the same effects as those that are
>   intended to be measured.


The elongation due to the weight of the tube can be calculated very 
precisely. It will be an incredibly small elongation. But by such a 
small distance the mirror could be moved, to compensate the effect of 
gravity on the construction of the interferometer.

But as I understand the video of Mr. Grusenick, the observed effect is 
WAY larger than that of gravity on light and/or the construction of the 
interferometer.

Possibly the effect IS gravity itself.

So I would suggest, to take the experiment serious and that someone 
might replicate it with better means.


> -Taking into free fall orbit would eliminate sag, but would also eliminate the
>   effect to be measured.
>


Well yes, you can't measure gravity in free fall.


TH

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#401607

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-13 01:42 -0800
Message-ID<6094defb-3672-4c6b-a26d-f3762dfa4771@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#401584
On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 11:25:34 PM UTC-6, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 12.12.2016 08:18, schrieb Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog:

> > There is no solution:
> > -No weight at all means no strength at all = unacceptable sag.
> 
> In an interferometer the most of parts do not sit at the end of a long 
> tube. Only the mirrors would need some kind of support.
> 
> The other parts could be mounted near to the centre and there is no 
> problem with weight.
> 
> A mirror is not a particular heavy part and it is not subject to any 
> kind of stress.
> 
> So a tiny extra-light mirror at the end of an extra-rigid construction 
> would do.
> 
> Why should that be impossible?
> 
> 
> > -Strong and rugged means heavy weight = unacceptable sag.
> > -Active feedback control to compensate for distance changes requires
> >   measurements that are susceptible to the same effects as those that are
> >   intended to be measured.
> 
> 
> The elongation due to the weight of the tube can be calculated very 
> precisely. It will be an incredibly small elongation. 

The important part is not the tube, but the mirror assembly. All the tubes do
is magnify the SIZE of the fringes; they do not contribute to the hypothetical
fringe shift. In Grusenick's apparatus, which he built with *ZERO* knowledge of
the theory of how MMX works, he might as well simply have substituted a 
diverging lens for the long tubes.

Re mirror assembly: Suppose we mounted the mirrors, beam splitter, laser diode
and detector on a solid block of silicon carbide. Silicon carbide has a Young's
modulus of 450e9 Pa and a density of 3.21 g/cm^3. Using the formula for
compression/elongation of a bar under its own weight Δl = 0.5(Wl)/(EA), I find 
that even using this *exceedingly* stiff material, gravitational distortions
of the mounting block amount to a third as much as expected fringe shifts from 
aetheric effects. If using more realistic materials like aluminum or steel, the 
expected distortions would be around an order of magnitude larger.

I couldn't really evaluate Grusenick's mirror mounts due to the bad viewing 
angle, but from what I could see, they weren't very rigid. Formulas exist that
would enable me to calculate bending of the mirror mounts, and a rough 
calculation says you could have "several" fringes of shift due to the mirrors 
sagging in their mounts.

> But by such a 
> small distance the mirror could be moved, to compensate the effect of 
> gravity on the construction of the interferometer.
> 
> But as I understand the video of Mr. Grusenick, the observed effect is 
> WAY larger than that of gravity on light and/or the construction of the 
> interferometer.
> 
> Possibly the effect IS gravity itself.
> 
> So I would suggest, to take the experiment serious and that someone 
> might replicate it with better means.
> 
> 
> > -Taking into free fall orbit would eliminate sag, but would also eliminate the
> >   effect to be measured.
> >
> 
> 
> Well yes, you can't measure gravity in free fall.
> 
> 
> TH

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#401670

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-12-13 22:29 +0100
Message-ID<ebb7hkF1t0uU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#401607
Am 13.12.2016 10:42, schrieb Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog:

>> A mirror is not a particular heavy part and it is not subject to any
>> kind of stress.
>>
>> So a tiny extra-light mirror at the end of an extra-rigid construction
>> would do.
>>
>> Why should that be impossible?
>>
>>
>>> -Strong and rugged means heavy weight = unacceptable sag.
>>> -Active feedback control to compensate for distance changes requires
>>>    measurements that are susceptible to the same effects as those that are
>>>    intended to be measured.
>>
>>
>> The elongation due to the weight of the tube can be calculated very
>> precisely. It will be an incredibly small elongation.
>
> The important part is not the tube, but the mirror assembly. All the tubes do
> is magnify the SIZE of the fringes; they do not contribute to the hypothetical
> fringe shift. In Grusenick's apparatus, which he built with *ZERO* knowledge of
> the theory of how MMX works, he might as well simply have substituted a
> diverging lens for the long tubes.


'There is a mirror, but an assembly is not really necessary.

It is actually possible to use mirrors, that are not adjustable.

These mirrors could be small and very light, since all they have to do 
is to reflect a beam from a tiny laser.

So I do not see any reason, why such a device cannot be built.

Possibly with a better device the effect is gone.

But also possible is the effect is not caused by 'sagging'.

So it is essential to build a better device, not to claim that would be 
impossible.

> Re mirror assembly: Suppose we mounted the mirrors, beam splitter, laser diode
> and detector on a solid block of silicon carbide. Silicon carbide has a Young's
> modulus of 450e9 Pa and a density of 3.21 g/cm^3. Using the formula for
> compression/elongation of a bar under its own weight Δl = 0.5(Wl)/(EA), I find
> that even using this *exceedingly* stiff material, gravitational distortions
> of the mounting block amount to a third as much as expected fringe shifts from
> aetheric effects. If using more realistic materials like aluminum or steel, the
> expected distortions would be around an order of magnitude larger.


You don't need 'solid bars' as construction elements of the apparatus.

I would use disks, which are thicker at the centre.

Also possible would be arms, that have most of their strength near the 
centre and are thinner and lighter near the mirrors.


> I couldn't really evaluate Grusenick's mirror mounts due to the bad viewing
> angle, but from what I could see, they weren't very rigid. Formulas exist that
> would enable me to calculate bending of the mirror mounts, and a rough
> calculation says you could have "several" fringes of shift due to the mirrors
> sagging in their mounts.


(Small) bending of the tubes would be irrelevant, since it would not 
make the path of the beam longer or shorter.

>> But by such a
>> small distance the mirror could be moved, to compensate the effect of
>> gravity on the construction of the interferometer.
>>
>> But as I understand the video of Mr. Grusenick, the observed effect is
>> WAY larger than that of gravity on light and/or the construction of the
>> interferometer.
>>
>> Possibly the effect IS gravity itself.

This is why the experiment is so important:

There is a fair chance, the effect is real and has a close relation to 
gravity.

If so, it would be totally idiotic, if the experiment is not repeated 
(with much better means).


TH

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#401691

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-13 15:01 -0800
Message-ID<cdebcbfa-1761-4628-8a37-b41504700e4c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#401670
Thomas Heger wrote:


>> Possibly the effect IS gravity itself. 

This is why the experiment is so important: 

There is a fair chance, the effect is real and has a close relation to 
gravity. 

If so, it would be totally idiotic, if the experiment is not repeated 
(with much better means). 


TH 

If Gravity itself IS the fringe shift that is being sought after, i fear the fringe shift will be completely self canceling and undetectable other than picking up a brick and dropping it under the interferometer 

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#401870

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-12-15 06:08 +0100
Message-ID<ebemraFr1tjU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#401691
Am 14.12.2016 00:01, schrieb David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller:

>
>>> Possibly the effect IS gravity itself.
>
> This is why the experiment is so important:
>
> There is a fair chance, the effect is real and has a close relation to
> gravity.
>
> If so, it would be totally idiotic, if the experiment is not repeated
> (with much better means).
>
>
> TH
>
> If Gravity itself IS the fringe shift that is being sought after, i fear the fringe shift will be completely self canceling and undetectable other than picking up a brick and dropping it under the interferometer

What gravity actually is, that is not well understood. So some sort of 
physical effect could be related to gravity in unexpected ways.

There were two experiments with superconducting spinning rings, which 
had some influence on gravity.

One was conducted by the Austrian Martin Tajmar and the other by 
Podclednov. (As far as I remember he worked in Turku in Finnland. First 
name I forgot)

The experiment was to lift a cooled superconductor by magnets and 
setting into fast rotation.

This seemed to reduce gravity above the device.

(The experiment of Martin Tajmar war somehow similar.)

Now: what could spinning superconductors do, that would create such an 
effect?

Somehow they shielded off gravity. So gravity should be something 
spinning and magnetic/electric/wavelike.

An interferometer would actually measure this, since light is also an 
em-wave.

But gravity is quite a weak force, so the coupling between light and 
gravity is VERY small. So gravity is not itself an em-wave.

My personal explanation is geometric and based on GR: matter behaves 
timelike and gravity works on matter. The opposite to timelike is 
spacelike and that the realm of static fields.

(Waves belong to the realm called 'light-like'.)

Now I combine mass-like and static fields to atoms and that to matter, 
what belongs to a certain timeline. Matter in one FoR is radiation in a 
FoR in an angle (lightlike).

So matter in one FoR could be waves in another. The realm called 'space' 
is than expanded (or shrunk), while the content is shrunk with it (or 
expanded).

Matter tends to shrink space around, what curves the axis of time in the 
vicinity. So the Earth creates a specific wave by its own gravity 
(usually called CMBR).

This 'curved spacetime' has an effect on time in the vertical direction. 
Since light moves always with c (measured in its local FoR) the local 
observer on the ground would measure a different velocity horizontal and 
vertical. And that is, what causes fringe shift in a vertical 
interferometer.


TH

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#401871

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-14 21:46 -0800
Message-ID<1a87fe42-3ccb-4dc5-9d89-bba89245a5e4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#401870
Thomas Heger wrote:
Super conducting rings reducing gravity 

For the moment, Pretend I am correct

Gravity = 49 units of (reciprocal  c) = 50 units of time = mass = higher Entropy = nodes

Space = Kinetic Energy = 1 unit of c = anti-nodes = waves  

Super Fluid helium is cold , gravity is cold 
Super conductivity occurs when cold. 

Impedance of the vacuum 376.75 is for "c"

376.75 is NOT for gravity. 
376.75 / (50^0.5) = 53.2804959624 Ohms for super conductivity 
Electricity is taking a path 7 times shorter during super conductivity with the super conducting ring effectively shielding from the entropy of Gravity 

https://goo.gl/photos/o7GEq7GK4wjvn933A






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#401873

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-14 22:05 -0800
Message-ID<866480da-86a8-4674-9c6f-06e8d9b059a6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#401871
Thomas Heger wrote: 
Super conducting rings reducing gravity 

For the moment, Pretend I am correct 

Gravity = 49 units of (reciprocal  c) = 49 units of time = mass = higher Entropy = nodes 

Space = Kinetic Energy = 1 unit of c = anti-nodes = waves   

Super Fluid helium is cold , gravity is cold 
Super conductivity occurs when cold. 

Impedance of the vacuum 376.75 is for "c" 

376.75 is NOT for gravity. 
376.75 / (50^0.5) = 53.2804959624 Ohms for super conductivity 
Electricity is taking a path 7 times shorter during super conductivity with the super conducting ring effectively shielding from the entropy of Gravity 

https://goo.gl/photos/o7GEq7GK4wjvn933A 

When looking at the surface of an Einstein Bose condensate, you are probably looking at the surface of a black holes event horizon 


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#401904

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-15 05:10 -0800
Message-ID<19fcdf36-238c-424f-8c89-10854c4807c0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#401870
Thomas Heger wrote:

What gravity actually is, that is not well understood. So some sort of 
physical effect could be related to gravity in unexpected ways. 

Gravity is making MisUnderstood likely because the vacuum of free space is misUnderstood

Let's pretend that Rising Entropy is what is pushing the arrow of time Ever into the future. 
Now in you MMX Experiment, acceleration/velocity will cause a fringe shift. 

What if Relativistic Time of mass is the acceleration of mass counteracting the rising Entropy of the arrow of time by slowing the Loss of available energy due to rising Entropy?

Gravity & Mass & Time are Entropic or Stillness or Nodes
Light or em is energy 

Approx 49.81 units of time per 1 unit of ( space or energy )

The Higgs boson is approx 137 protons or (137*N) additional Nodes of Entropy 

The Hubble redshift is space time losing Kinetic Energy (not expansion )

137/49.817*4/11 = 1 

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#401724

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-12-14 06:08 +0100
Message-ID<ebc2emF7m0iU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#401670
Am 13.12.2016 22:29, schrieb Thomas Heger:
>
> 'There is a mirror, but an assembly is not really necessary.

There a word went missing. I wanted to write 'mirror assembly' - of course.

These assemblies used by Mr. Grusenick have significant weight. This 
could eventually put 'stress' on the arms of the device.

But adjustable mirrors are nor really important and it is possible to 
use just mirrors and put them in fixed mounts, that are carefully 
adjusted themselves.

So only a mirror is needed and that could be made extremely light weight 
(fraction of a gram).

That should not apply too much stress on the device.

The 'arms' of the interferometer could also be of special design, which 
would minimize elongation.

Since the apparatus is rotated around a central axis, the inner parts 
near this axis could be made very bulgy, since the weight there is 
irrelevant for elongation of the arms.

The only things, that require a fixed position away from this axis are 
the mirrors and the screen. The beam-splitter will be put at the centre 
and the laser close to the centre (similar the batteries).

So the only relevant task is to keep these mirrors at a fixed distance 
from the centre, if the weight (of a few grams) pulls on it.


TH

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#401736

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-12-14 07:42 +0100
Message-ID<ebc7v6F8s5pU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#401724
Am 14.12.2016 06:08, schrieb Thomas Heger:

>> 'There is a mirror, but an assembly is not really necessary.
>
> There a word went missing. I wanted to write 'mirror assembly' - of course.
>
> These assemblies used by Mr. Grusenick have significant weight. This
> could eventually put 'stress' on the arms of the device.
>
> But adjustable mirrors are nor really important and it is possible to
> use just mirrors and put them in fixed mounts, that are carefully
> adjusted themselves.
>
> So only a mirror is needed and that could be made extremely light weight
> (fraction of a gram).
>
> That should not apply too much stress on the device.
>
> The 'arms' of the interferometer could also be of special design, which
> would minimize elongation.
>
> Since the apparatus is rotated around a central axis, the inner parts
> near this axis could be made very bulgy, since the weight there is
> irrelevant for elongation of the arms.
>
> The only things, that require a fixed position away from this axis are
> the mirrors and the screen. The beam-splitter will be put at the centre
> and the laser close to the centre (similar the batteries).
>
> So the only relevant task is to keep these mirrors at a fixed distance
> from the centre, if the weight (of a few grams) pulls on it.
>

There is also no need, that the mirrors are mounted to 'arms'.

Instead the device could be build the other way round: inside a circular 
rail.

There is another possible form, which looks somehow similar to such a toy:

http://magento.p144929.webspaceconfig.de/media/import/514019401_02.jpg
or

http://www.abc-team.de/media/produkte/images/norm/dscn0519.jpg

The rotation angle is not that vertical, but at least it does not rotate 
in the horizontal plane.

Since such a device is mounted quite close to where I live, I could 
eventually use it for 'science'.



TH

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#401614

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-13 05:25 -0800
Message-ID<c12793ab-39f6-403f-affb-be04b8f24724@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#401584
Thomas's Heger wrote:

Possibly the effect IS gravity itself. 

So I would suggest, to take the experiment serious and that someone 
might replicate it with better means. 


> -Taking into free fall orbit would eliminate sag, but would also eliminate the 
>   effect to be measured. 
> 


Well yes, you can't measure gravity in free fall. 


TH 

That is what I keep saying, the fringe shift shows up as gravity. 
The wrong concept of space time persists. 

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