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Re: Michelson's experiment

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Michelson's experiment
Date 2016-12-13 22:29 +0100
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Am 13.12.2016 10:42, schrieb Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog:

>> A mirror is not a particular heavy part and it is not subject to any
>> kind of stress.
>>
>> So a tiny extra-light mirror at the end of an extra-rigid construction
>> would do.
>>
>> Why should that be impossible?
>>
>>
>>> -Strong and rugged means heavy weight = unacceptable sag.
>>> -Active feedback control to compensate for distance changes requires
>>>    measurements that are susceptible to the same effects as those that are
>>>    intended to be measured.
>>
>>
>> The elongation due to the weight of the tube can be calculated very
>> precisely. It will be an incredibly small elongation.
>
> The important part is not the tube, but the mirror assembly. All the tubes do
> is magnify the SIZE of the fringes; they do not contribute to the hypothetical
> fringe shift. In Grusenick's apparatus, which he built with *ZERO* knowledge of
> the theory of how MMX works, he might as well simply have substituted a
> diverging lens for the long tubes.


'There is a mirror, but an assembly is not really necessary.

It is actually possible to use mirrors, that are not adjustable.

These mirrors could be small and very light, since all they have to do 
is to reflect a beam from a tiny laser.

So I do not see any reason, why such a device cannot be built.

Possibly with a better device the effect is gone.

But also possible is the effect is not caused by 'sagging'.

So it is essential to build a better device, not to claim that would be 
impossible.

> Re mirror assembly: Suppose we mounted the mirrors, beam splitter, laser diode
> and detector on a solid block of silicon carbide. Silicon carbide has a Young's
> modulus of 450e9 Pa and a density of 3.21 g/cm^3. Using the formula for
> compression/elongation of a bar under its own weight Δl = 0.5(Wl)/(EA), I find
> that even using this *exceedingly* stiff material, gravitational distortions
> of the mounting block amount to a third as much as expected fringe shifts from
> aetheric effects. If using more realistic materials like aluminum or steel, the
> expected distortions would be around an order of magnitude larger.


You don't need 'solid bars' as construction elements of the apparatus.

I would use disks, which are thicker at the centre.

Also possible would be arms, that have most of their strength near the 
centre and are thinner and lighter near the mirrors.


> I couldn't really evaluate Grusenick's mirror mounts due to the bad viewing
> angle, but from what I could see, they weren't very rigid. Formulas exist that
> would enable me to calculate bending of the mirror mounts, and a rough
> calculation says you could have "several" fringes of shift due to the mirrors
> sagging in their mounts.


(Small) bending of the tubes would be irrelevant, since it would not 
make the path of the beam longer or shorter.

>> But by such a
>> small distance the mirror could be moved, to compensate the effect of
>> gravity on the construction of the interferometer.
>>
>> But as I understand the video of Mr. Grusenick, the observed effect is
>> WAY larger than that of gravity on light and/or the construction of the
>> interferometer.
>>
>> Possibly the effect IS gravity itself.

This is why the experiment is so important:

There is a fair chance, the effect is real and has a close relation to 
gravity.

If so, it would be totally idiotic, if the experiment is not repeated 
(with much better means).


TH

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  Re: Michelson's experiment Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-10 06:21 +0100
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                Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-13 10:21 -0800
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          Re: Michelson's experiment Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-11 09:20 +0100
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                Re: Michelson's experiment Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-12 07:47 +0100
                Re: Michelson's experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-12-11 23:18 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-13 06:25 +0100
                Re: Michelson's experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-12-13 01:42 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-13 22:29 +0100
                Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-13 15:01 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-15 06:08 +0100
                Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-14 21:46 -0800
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                Re: Michelson's experiment Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-14 06:08 +0100
                Re: Michelson's experiment Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-14 07:42 +0100
                Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-13 05:25 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-12 12:51 -0600
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            Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-11 05:25 -0800
        Re: Michelson's experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-11 11:47 -0600
          Re: Michelson's experiment Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-11 20:59 +0100
            Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-11 12:47 -0800
            Re: Michelson's experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-11 16:40 -0600
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                Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-01-09 09:32 +0100
                Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2017-01-09 07:48 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-01-09 22:20 +0100
                Re: Michelson's experiment jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2017-01-09 23:09 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-01-10 11:29 +0100
                Re: Michelson's experiment matt.rush200@outlook.com - 2017-01-10 03:25 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-01-10 21:40 +0100
                Re: Michelson's experiment matt.rush200@outlook.com - 2017-01-10 13:56 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Jaqueline Yoho <eau@oeJqq.org> - 2017-01-10 22:16 +0000
                Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-01-11 11:17 +0100
                Re: Michelson's experiment matt.rush200@outlook.com - 2017-01-11 05:12 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-01-11 19:36 +0100
                Re: Michelson's experiment Debbra Herrin <debhe@eeeeneoaa.org> - 2017-01-11 19:22 +0000
                Re: Michelson's experiment matt.rush200@outlook.com - 2017-01-11 07:20 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-01-10 11:30 +0100
                Re: Michelson's experiment matt.rush200@outlook.com - 2017-01-10 02:58 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-01-10 21:33 +0100
                Re: Michelson's experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-01-10 23:10 +0100
                Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-01-11 11:16 +0100
                Jay Moseley advertises his imbecility "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-02 08:16 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-28 21:13 +0100
                Cretin Jay Moseley perseveres "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-21 06:01 -0800
                Cretin Jay Moseley perseveres jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-21 09:04 -0800
                Re: Cretin Jay Moseley perseveres "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-21 09:50 -0800
            Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-18 12:59 -0800
          Re: Michelson's experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-19 15:11 +0100
            Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-20 09:36 -0800
      Idiot Jay Moseley keeps embarrassing the UK "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-16 07:12 -0800
  Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-15 13:13 -0800
  Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-15 14:00 -0800
  Re: Michelson's experiment furthermore123456@gmail.com - 2016-12-17 13:12 -0800
  Re: Michelson's experiment numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-20 09:54 -0800
  Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-21 08:04 -0800
    Robert Winn cretin is back "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-21 08:31 -0800
      Re: Robert Winn cretin is back Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-21 09:09 -0800
    Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2016-12-21 19:51 +0100
      Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 02:00 -0800
        Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2016-12-22 12:22 +0100
          Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-22 03:41 -0800
            Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 07:58 -0800
          Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 07:53 -0800
            Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2016-12-22 17:21 +0100
              Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 09:19 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2016-12-22 18:33 +0100
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 10:34 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2016-12-22 19:43 +0100
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 12:11 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2016-12-22 21:18 +0100
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 13:24 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2016-12-22 22:35 +0100
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 14:50 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2016-12-23 00:41 +0100
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 16:58 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2016-12-23 03:28 +0100
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 19:19 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2016-12-23 11:13 +0100
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 07:18 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2016-12-23 16:36 +0100
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 08:30 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2016-12-23 17:45 +0100
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 10:29 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2016-12-23 19:35 +0100
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 11:29 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 11:29 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 12:37 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-23 10:43 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 11:35 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-23 12:45 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 12:49 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-23 13:08 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 13:20 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 09:18 -0600
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 18:53 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-29 07:29 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment 01405 <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 11:43 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment alsor@interia.pl - 2017-01-02 11:59 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 13:57 -0600
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 12:17 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 15:41 -0600
                Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-03 14:26 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 14:44 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment xxein1@att.net - 2017-01-03 22:20 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 08:03 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 10:45 -0600
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 13:15 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 15:34 -0600
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 15:46 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 09:38 -0600
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 08:17 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 07:08 -0600
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 08:40 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 10:46 -0600
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:33 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 12:21 -0600
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 21:56 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 15:47 -0600
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 15:40 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 20:12 -0600
                Re: Michelson's experiment benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-01-10 18:37 -0500
                Re: Michelson's experiment John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-10 15:58 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-10 16:33 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 17:23 -0800
                CRETIN Robert Winn at work "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-10 17:27 -0800
                Re: CRETIN Robert Winn at work Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 19:00 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-10 19:41 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 20:09 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-10 20:46 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 23:23 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-11 04:17 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-11 04:35 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 06:12 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 06:43 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-11 06:47 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 07:52 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 09:07 -0600
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 08:19 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 17:35 -0600
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 20:54 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 08:17 -0600
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 08:30 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 10:42 -0600
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 09:14 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 09:48 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 09:54 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 10:13 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 11:01 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 11:05 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 12:09 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 13:43 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 08:19 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 08:31 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 17:36 -0600
                Re: Michelson's experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-11 12:10 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 12:13 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 12:27 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-11 20:43 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-11 12:48 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 13:18 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-11 13:47 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Ward Nusbaum <uqowm@msdmmsuus.org> - 2017-01-11 21:56 +0000
                Rober Winn, the village idiot "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-11 06:58 -0800
                Re: Rober Winn, the village idiot Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 08:18 -0800
                Re: Rober Winn, the village idiot "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-11 08:37 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 09:04 -0600
                Re: Michelson's experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-01-05 20:45 -0600
                Re: Michelson's experiment xxein1@att.net - 2017-01-06 16:53 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-06 17:31 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment xxein1@att.net - 2017-01-06 18:28 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-06 19:13 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-06 19:20 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment xxein1@att.net - 2017-01-07 13:08 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-07 14:17 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment xxein1@att.net - 2017-01-07 15:39 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-07 18:10 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-07 18:28 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-01-08 08:54 -0600
                Re: Michelson's experiment xxein1@att.net - 2017-01-09 06:12 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-09 06:48 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 10:10 -0600
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 13:08 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 15:28 -0600
                Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-04 13:54 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-01-04 23:29 +0100
                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 16:42 -0600
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 17:06 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 20:16 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 09:47 -0600
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 09:33 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 07:08 -0600
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 08:43 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-06 08:48 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 10:53 -0600
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:34 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 12:22 -0600
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 15:43 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-04 16:19 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 16:49 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-04 17:57 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 20:19 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-04 20:23 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 21:28 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-05 05:13 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-05 06:20 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 07:35 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 07:21 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 08:06 -0600
                Re: Michelson's experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-05 07:06 -0800
                Re: Michelson's experiment Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 07:43 -0800
                Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-05 08:10 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 09:42 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-05 09:46 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 10:06 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 10:07 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-05 10:24 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 11:40 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-05 14:03 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 15:14 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-06 04:31 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 08:25 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-06 08:30 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-05 14:11 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 15:16 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-05 15:23 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 15:53 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-05 16:10 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 17:42 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-05 17:55 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 19:35 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-05 19:46 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 20:52 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-05 21:07 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-06 04:46 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 08:38 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 07:42 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-06 08:14 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-06 08:22 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 10:23 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-06 08:31 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:31 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 12:17 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Aubrey Primmer <myr@ejmr.info> - 2017-01-06 16:23 +0000
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:21 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Eckard B <eckard.blumschein@arcor.de> - 2017-01-09 07:04 -0800
                Imbecile Eckard B. perseveres "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-09 07:09 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 15:50 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 15:41 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 20:27 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 20:31 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-09 21:07 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 07:30 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 06:00 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 08:38 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-10 06:47 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 07:08 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-10 07:14 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 10:57 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 09:10 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 08:54 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 08:07 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 17:34 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 20:50 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-11 21:01 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 08:20 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 08:32 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 10:38 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 11:26 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 14:07 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 17:35 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 21:00 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 08:23 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 08:34 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 12:09 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 14:38 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-17 07:26 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-17 07:12 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-17 11:15 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 14:17 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-10 15:05 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 17:17 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-10 17:23 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 18:59 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 08:55 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 08:16 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 17:35 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 20:57 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-11 21:03 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 08:23 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 08:36 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 14:06 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 20:46 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-09 21:10 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 05:58 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 08:33 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 07:08 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 10:59 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 09:14 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 15:38 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 15:26 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 17:37 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 17:08 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Reid Schaffner <dnfoonio@acdnfni.info> - 2017-01-14 01:16 +0000
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 19:36 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Reid Schaffner <dnfoonio@acdnfni.info> - 2017-01-14 17:04 +0000
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 12:34 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-17 08:11 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 14:28 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 12:46 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-15 13:52 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-15 19:33 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 09:33 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 08:45 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 11:26 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 14:27 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-17 12:15 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-18 06:50 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-18 06:54 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-18 09:24 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-18 13:36 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-19 06:05 -0800
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-19 08:35 -0600
                Re: Lying sack of shit, Robert Winn mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-21 01:30 -0800

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