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The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat

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  The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-01 15:25 -0800
    Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-02 20:12 +1100
      Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-02 05:29 -0800
        Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-03 13:10 +1100
          Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-02 18:41 -0800
            Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-03 13:53 +1100
              Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-02 19:24 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-04 16:04 +1100
                  Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-03 22:01 -0800
                    Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-04 19:18 +1100
                      Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 06:16 -0800
                        Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 06:30 -0800
                          Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 06:34 -0800
                            Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 06:54 -0800
                          Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 10:33 -0800
                        Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-05 11:23 +1100
                          Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 16:53 -0800
                            Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-05 12:36 +1100
                              Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 18:37 -0800
                                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-05 13:56 +1100
                                  Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 19:09 -0800
                                    Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-05 15:41 +1100
                                      Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 20:46 -0800
                                        Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-05 15:50 +1100
                                          Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 21:15 -0800
                                            Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-05 22:14 +1100
                                              Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-05 07:15 -0800
                                                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-05 07:35 -0800
                                                  Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-06 11:07 +1100
                                                    Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-05 17:07 -0800
                                                      Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-06 13:22 +1100
                                                    Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-05 17:15 -0800
                                                      Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-05 17:20 -0800
                                                      Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-05 17:27 -0800
                                                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-06 11:01 +1100
                                      Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 20:46 -0800
                                  Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 19:10 -0800
                                  Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 19:25 -0800
                                    Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 20:39 -0800
                              Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 18:48 -0800
                                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 18:54 -0800
              Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-02 19:33 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-02 19:36 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-02 19:45 -0800
              Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-02 19:42 -0800
              Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-02 20:19 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-03 22:01 +1100
                  Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-03 06:26 -0800
                    Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-03 06:30 -0800
                    Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-03 06:34 -0800
          Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-02 19:46 -0800
    Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 07:57 -0800
      Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-05 09:48 -0800
      Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-05 09:50 -0800
      Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-05 18:40 -0800

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#400521 — The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-01 15:25 -0800
SubjectThe Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat
Message-ID<45e80cc0-e532-41d8-85b8-1a801c5aedbf@googlegroups.com>
The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat as a combination of a governor & a Throttle. 
Too much = photons are radiated 
Too little Gravity compacts it. 

If  ((1.5e+10*2+299792458)*1e-9)^2*2 = 1836.154846 is Accurate then the proton electron ratio is a mediator between energy, gravity & the volume of spacetime.   

Space time is flat for the same reason water drains out of your tub drain at a steady rate. 

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#400549

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2016-12-02 20:12 +1100
Message-ID<eacs7lFmcs9U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#400521
On 2/12/2016 10:25 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
>
> Space time is flat for the same reason water drains out of your tub drain at a steady rate.
>
I'm pretty sure that it doesn't.

Sylvia

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#400560

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-02 05:29 -0800
Message-ID<88029abd-d6a2-4393-b9c0-8f5b1ca96cca@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#400549
Sylvia Else
On 2/12/2016 10:25 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote: 
> 
> Space time is flat for the same reason water drains out of your tub drain at a steady rate. 
> 
I'm pretty sure that it doesn't. 

Sylvia 


To provide just a little reasoning behind my guess

In physics, the fine-structure constant, also known as Sommerfeld's constant, commonly denoted α (the Greek letter alpha), is a fundamental physical constant characterizing the strength of the electromagnetic interaction between elementary charged particles.

This would directly influence the Quantum Physical creation of particle pair creation from the vacuum and the initial conditions of & resultant effects to the volume of spacetime. 

All along I have been saying a mass energy scalar per cubic meter needs to be derived. 

& the fourth root of c is 131. 

299792458^(1 / 4) = 131.584633668

(137036^4) * (G^2) * 2 = 3.14160446

((137036^4) * (G^2) * 2) / pi = 1.00000376


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#400643

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2016-12-03 13:10 +1100
Message-ID<eaent0F5su6U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#400560
On 3/12/2016 12:29 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> Sylvia Else
> On 2/12/2016 10:25 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
>>
>> Space time is flat for the same reason water drains out of your tub drain at a steady rate.
>>
> I'm pretty sure that it doesn't.
>
> Sylvia
>
>
> To provide just a little reasoning behind my guess
>
> In physics, the fine-structure constant, also known as Sommerfeld's constant, commonly denoted α (the Greek letter alpha), is a fundamental physical constant characterizing the strength of the electromagnetic interaction between elementary charged particles.
>
> This would directly influence the Quantum Physical creation of particle pair creation from the vacuum and the initial conditions of & resultant effects to the volume of spacetime.
>
> All along I have been saying a mass energy scalar per cubic meter needs to be derived.
>
> & the fourth root of c is 131.
>
> 299792458^(1 / 4) = 131.584633668
>
> (137036^4) * (G^2) * 2 = 3.14160446
>
> ((137036^4) * (G^2) * 2) / pi = 1.00000376
>
>
>

What's the point of ignoring my comment and just adding more gibberish? 
You thought something about tubs that is obviously wrong to anyone who 
thinks about the physics, yet you expect to be taken seriously on a much 
deeper problem?

Sylvia.

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#400645

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-02 18:41 -0800
Message-ID<7188aa5f-c188-4e33-8e35-e6c67c36e978@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#400643
On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:10:42 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 3/12/2016 12:29 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > Sylvia Else
> > On 2/12/2016 10:25 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> >>
> >> Space time is flat for the same reason water drains out of your tub drain at a steady rate.
> >>
> > I'm pretty sure that it doesn't.
> >
> > Sylvia
> >
> >
> > To provide just a little reasoning behind my guess
> >
> > In physics, the fine-structure constant, also known as Sommerfeld's constant, commonly denoted α (the Greek letter alpha), is a fundamental physical constant characterizing the strength of the electromagnetic interaction between elementary charged particles.
> >
> > This would directly influence the Quantum Physical creation of particle pair creation from the vacuum and the initial conditions of & resultant effects to the volume of spacetime.
> >
> > All along I have been saying a mass energy scalar per cubic meter needs to be derived.
> >
> > & the fourth root of c is 131.
> >
> > 299792458^(1 / 4) = 131.584633668
> >
> > (137036^4) * (G^2) * 2 = 3.14160446
> >
> > ((137036^4) * (G^2) * 2) / pi = 1.00000376
> >
> >
> >
> 
> What's the point of ignoring my comment and just adding more gibberish? 
> You thought something about tubs that is obviously wrong to anyone who 
> thinks about the physics, yet you expect to be taken seriously on a much 
> deeper problem?
> 
> Sylvia.

It is "Mostly a Steady rate of flow" and a has Predictable rate of change in flow

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#400647

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2016-12-03 13:53 +1100
Message-ID<eaeqcgF6dg9U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#400645
On 3/12/2016 1:41 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:10:42 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 3/12/2016 12:29 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
>>> Sylvia Else
>>> On 2/12/2016 10:25 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Space time is flat for the same reason water drains out of your tub drain at a steady rate.
>>>>
>>> I'm pretty sure that it doesn't.
>>>
>>> Sylvia
>>>
>>>
>>> To provide just a little reasoning behind my guess
>>>
>>> In physics, the fine-structure constant, also known as Sommerfeld's constant, commonly denoted α (the Greek letter alpha), is a fundamental physical constant characterizing the strength of the electromagnetic interaction between elementary charged particles.
>>>
>>> This would directly influence the Quantum Physical creation of particle pair creation from the vacuum and the initial conditions of & resultant effects to the volume of spacetime.
>>>
>>> All along I have been saying a mass energy scalar per cubic meter needs to be derived.
>>>
>>> & the fourth root of c is 131.
>>>
>>> 299792458^(1 / 4) = 131.584633668
>>>
>>> (137036^4) * (G^2) * 2 = 3.14160446
>>>
>>> ((137036^4) * (G^2) * 2) / pi = 1.00000376
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> What's the point of ignoring my comment and just adding more gibberish?
>> You thought something about tubs that is obviously wrong to anyone who
>> thinks about the physics, yet you expect to be taken seriously on a much
>> deeper problem?
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
> It is "Mostly a Steady rate of flow" and a has Predictable rate of change in flow
>

It's not mostly steady - it varies continuously. Being predictable is 
not the same as being steady.

Sylvia.

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#400648

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-02 19:24 -0800
Message-ID<d3212193-b510-45a6-82e6-a511f13d2432@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#400647
On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:53:06 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 3/12/2016 1:41 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:10:42 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >> On 3/12/2016 12:29 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> >>> Sylvia Else
> >>> On 2/12/2016 10:25 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Space time is flat for the same reason water drains out of your tub drain at a steady rate.
> >>>>
> >>> I'm pretty sure that it doesn't.
> >>>
> >>> Sylvia
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> To provide just a little reasoning behind my guess
> >>>
> >>> In physics, the fine-structure constant, also known as Sommerfeld's constant, commonly denoted α (the Greek letter alpha), is a fundamental physical constant characterizing the strength of the electromagnetic interaction between elementary charged particles.
> >>>
> >>> This would directly influence the Quantum Physical creation of particle pair creation from the vacuum and the initial conditions of & resultant effects to the volume of spacetime.
> >>>
> >>> All along I have been saying a mass energy scalar per cubic meter needs to be derived.
> >>>
> >>> & the fourth root of c is 131.
> >>>
> >>> 299792458^(1 / 4) = 131.584633668
> >>>
> >>> (137036^4) * (G^2) * 2 = 3.14160446
> >>>
> >>> ((137036^4) * (G^2) * 2) / pi = 1.00000376
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> What's the point of ignoring my comment and just adding more gibberish?
> >> You thought something about tubs that is obviously wrong to anyone who
> >> thinks about the physics, yet you expect to be taken seriously on a much
> >> deeper problem?
> >>
> >> Sylvia.
> >
> > It is "Mostly a Steady rate of flow" and a has Predictable rate of change in flow
> >
> 
> It's not mostly steady - it varies continuously. Being predictable is 
> not the same as being steady.
> 
> Sylvia.

Inertia and the Speed of light make it Very Steady


Gravity and relativistic mass make changes Very Preictable

Gravity is the fine Structure constant

((137036^4) * (G^2)) / (pi / 2) =  1.00000376

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#400738

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2016-12-04 16:04 +1100
Message-ID<eahmf4Fr73lU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#400648
On 3/12/2016 2:24 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:53:06 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 3/12/2016 1:41 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
>>> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:10:42 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> On 3/12/2016 12:29 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
>>>>> Sylvia Else
>>>>> On 2/12/2016 10:25 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Space time is flat for the same reason water drains out of your tub drain at a steady rate.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I'm pretty sure that it doesn't.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sylvia
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> To provide just a little reasoning behind my guess
>>>>>
>>>>> In physics, the fine-structure constant, also known as Sommerfeld's constant, commonly denoted α (the Greek letter alpha), is a fundamental physical constant characterizing the strength of the electromagnetic interaction between elementary charged particles.
>>>>>
>>>>> This would directly influence the Quantum Physical creation of particle pair creation from the vacuum and the initial conditions of & resultant effects to the volume of spacetime.
>>>>>
>>>>> All along I have been saying a mass energy scalar per cubic meter needs to be derived.
>>>>>
>>>>> & the fourth root of c is 131.
>>>>>
>>>>> 299792458^(1 / 4) = 131.584633668
>>>>>
>>>>> (137036^4) * (G^2) * 2 = 3.14160446
>>>>>
>>>>> ((137036^4) * (G^2) * 2) / pi = 1.00000376
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What's the point of ignoring my comment and just adding more gibberish?
>>>> You thought something about tubs that is obviously wrong to anyone who
>>>> thinks about the physics, yet you expect to be taken seriously on a much
>>>> deeper problem?
>>>>
>>>> Sylvia.
>>>
>>> It is "Mostly a Steady rate of flow" and a has Predictable rate of change in flow
>>>
>>
>> It's not mostly steady - it varies continuously. Being predictable is
>> not the same as being steady.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
> Inertia and the Speed of light make it Very Steady
>
>
> Gravity and relativistic mass make changes Very Preictable
>
> Gravity is the fine Structure constant
>
> ((137036^4) * (G^2)) / (pi / 2) =  1.00000376
>

Are you under the impression that this numerology nonsense means something?

You omit the dimensions in these postings. For example, the number 
1.00000376 quoted above has the dimensions force * distance^2 / mass^2 
which means that it's only close to one because of the particular choice 
of units.

Sylvia.

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#400739

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-03 22:01 -0800
Message-ID<9a29d228-b397-461b-ad7b-f0e888369ad5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#400738
On Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 11:04:39 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 3/12/2016 2:24 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:53:06 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >> On 3/12/2016 1:41 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> >>> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:10:42 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >>>> On 3/12/2016 12:29 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> >>>>> Sylvia Else
> >>>>> On 2/12/2016 10:25 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Space time is flat for the same reason water drains out of your tub drain at a steady rate.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> I'm pretty sure that it doesn't.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sylvia
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To provide just a little reasoning behind my guess
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In physics, the fine-structure constant, also known as Sommerfeld's constant, commonly denoted α (the Greek letter alpha), is a fundamental physical constant characterizing the strength of the electromagnetic interaction between elementary charged particles.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This would directly influence the Quantum Physical creation of particle pair creation from the vacuum and the initial conditions of & resultant effects to the volume of spacetime.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> All along I have been saying a mass energy scalar per cubic meter needs to be derived.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> & the fourth root of c is 131.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 299792458^(1 / 4) = 131.584633668
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (137036^4) * (G^2) * 2 = 3.14160446
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ((137036^4) * (G^2) * 2) / pi = 1.00000376
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> What's the point of ignoring my comment and just adding more gibberish?
> >>>> You thought something about tubs that is obviously wrong to anyone who
> >>>> thinks about the physics, yet you expect to be taken seriously on a much
> >>>> deeper problem?
> >>>>
> >>>> Sylvia.
> >>>
> >>> It is "Mostly a Steady rate of flow" and a has Predictable rate of change in flow
> >>>
> >>
> >> It's not mostly steady - it varies continuously. Being predictable is
> >> not the same as being steady.
> >>
> >> Sylvia.
> >
> > Inertia and the Speed of light make it Very Steady
> >
> >
> > Gravity and relativistic mass make changes Very Preictable
> >
> > Gravity is the fine Structure constant
> >
> > ((137036^4) * (G^2)) / (pi / 2) =  1.00000376
> >
> 
> Are you under the impression that this numerology nonsense means something?
> 
> You omit the dimensions in these postings. For example, the number 
> 1.00000376 quoted above has the dimensions force * distance^2 / mass^2 
> which means that it's only close to one because of the particular choice 
> of units.
> 
> Sylvia.

Sweet Mother Mary ..... Are you that Dull .... or set in your ways or are you just being a TROLL ???

If the Fine Structrue constant is a DIMENSIONLESS CONSTANT ..... THEN .....


THIS ...(((137036^4) * (6.67406745595e-11^2)) * 2) = pi .... Means GRAVITY is DIMENSIONLESS ALSO  

((e * cos(137035.9991232535539893radians))  - 1) / phi = 1

(((137036^4) * (6.67406745595e-11^2)) * 2) = pi

NIST G = 6.6740800122e-11

Fuller G = 6.67406745595e-11

c has no vector, just a scalar quantity 
e is just a Scalar with no vector
hbar is just a Scalar
alpha is dimensionless

that means Gravity is Dimensionless 

there is NO WAY to make it More Clear.

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#400743

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2016-12-04 19:18 +1100
Message-ID<eai1rkFtkrhU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#400739
On 4/12/2016 5:01 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> On Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 11:04:39 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 3/12/2016 2:24 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
>>> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:53:06 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> On 3/12/2016 1:41 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:10:42 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/12/2016 12:29 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
>>>>>>> Sylvia Else
>>>>>>> On 2/12/2016 10:25 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Space time is flat for the same reason water drains out of your tub drain at a steady rate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure that it doesn't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sylvia
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To provide just a little reasoning behind my guess
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In physics, the fine-structure constant, also known as Sommerfeld's constant, commonly denoted α (the Greek letter alpha), is a fundamental physical constant characterizing the strength of the electromagnetic interaction between elementary charged particles.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This would directly influence the Quantum Physical creation of particle pair creation from the vacuum and the initial conditions of & resultant effects to the volume of spacetime.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All along I have been saying a mass energy scalar per cubic meter needs to be derived.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> & the fourth root of c is 131.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 299792458^(1 / 4) = 131.584633668
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (137036^4) * (G^2) * 2 = 3.14160446
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ((137036^4) * (G^2) * 2) / pi = 1.00000376
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's the point of ignoring my comment and just adding more gibberish?
>>>>>> You thought something about tubs that is obviously wrong to anyone who
>>>>>> thinks about the physics, yet you expect to be taken seriously on a much
>>>>>> deeper problem?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sylvia.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is "Mostly a Steady rate of flow" and a has Predictable rate of change in flow
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's not mostly steady - it varies continuously. Being predictable is
>>>> not the same as being steady.
>>>>
>>>> Sylvia.
>>>
>>> Inertia and the Speed of light make it Very Steady
>>>
>>>
>>> Gravity and relativistic mass make changes Very Preictable
>>>
>>> Gravity is the fine Structure constant
>>>
>>> ((137036^4) * (G^2)) / (pi / 2) =  1.00000376
>>>
>>
>> Are you under the impression that this numerology nonsense means something?
>>
>> You omit the dimensions in these postings. For example, the number
>> 1.00000376 quoted above has the dimensions force * distance^2 / mass^2
>> which means that it's only close to one because of the particular choice
>> of units.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
> Sweet Mother Mary ..... Are you that Dull .... or set in your ways or are you just being a TROLL ???
>
> If the Fine Structrue constant is a DIMENSIONLESS CONSTANT ..... THEN .....
>
>
> THIS ...(((137036^4) * (6.67406745595e-11^2)) * 2) = pi .... Means GRAVITY is DIMENSIONLESS ALSO

Things don't become dimensionless just because you want them to, nor 
because you can write an equation which would only be correct if they 
were dimensionless.

Sylvia.

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#400749

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-04 06:16 -0800
Message-ID<aa0ab935-591e-4bef-a946-ba4c3a165032@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#400743
On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 2:19:05 AM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 4/12/2016 5:01 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 11:04:39 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >> On 3/12/2016 2:24 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> >>> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:53:06 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >>>> On 3/12/2016 1:41 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> >>>>> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:10:42 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >>>>>> On 3/12/2016 12:29 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> >>>>>>> Sylvia Else
> >>>>>>> On 2/12/2016 10:25 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Space time is flat for the same reason water drains out of your tub drain at a steady rate.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm pretty sure that it doesn't.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sylvia
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> To provide just a little reasoning behind my guess
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In physics, the fine-structure constant, also known as Sommerfeld's constant, commonly denoted α (the Greek letter alpha), is a fundamental physical constant characterizing the strength of the electromagnetic interaction between elementary charged particles.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This would directly influence the Quantum Physical creation of particle pair creation from the vacuum and the initial conditions of & resultant effects to the volume of spacetime.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> All along I have been saying a mass energy scalar per cubic meter needs to be derived.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> & the fourth root of c is 131.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 299792458^(1 / 4) = 131.584633668
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> (137036^4) * (G^2) * 2 = 3.14160446
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ((137036^4) * (G^2) * 2) / pi = 1.00000376
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What's the point of ignoring my comment and just adding more gibberish?
> >>>>>> You thought something about tubs that is obviously wrong to anyone who
> >>>>>> thinks about the physics, yet you expect to be taken seriously on a much
> >>>>>> deeper problem?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sylvia.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It is "Mostly a Steady rate of flow" and a has Predictable rate of change in flow
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> It's not mostly steady - it varies continuously. Being predictable is
> >>>> not the same as being steady.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sylvia.
> >>>
> >>> Inertia and the Speed of light make it Very Steady
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Gravity and relativistic mass make changes Very Preictable
> >>>
> >>> Gravity is the fine Structure constant
> >>>
> >>> ((137036^4) * (G^2)) / (pi / 2) =  1.00000376
> >>>
> >>
> >> Are you under the impression that this numerology nonsense means something?
> >>
> >> You omit the dimensions in these postings. For example, the number
> >> 1.00000376 quoted above has the dimensions force * distance^2 / mass^2
> >> which means that it's only close to one because of the particular choice
> >> of units.
> >>
> >> Sylvia.
> >
> > Sweet Mother Mary ..... Are you that Dull .... or set in your ways or are you just being a TROLL ???
> >
> > If the Fine Structrue constant is a DIMENSIONLESS CONSTANT ..... THEN .....
> >
> >
> > THIS ...(((137036^4) * (6.67406745595e-11^2)) * 2) = pi .... Means GRAVITY is DIMENSIONLESS ALSO
> 
> Things don't become dimensionless just because you want them to, nor 
> because you can write an equation which would only be correct if they 
> were dimensionless.
> 
> Sylvia.

it seems impossible for 2 & pi to add dimension from FSC to G

G would just be the curvature of time relative to space, mimicking a force pushing objects together

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#400750

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-04 06:30 -0800
Message-ID<4db6fe16-776d-47a8-8eba-82d57d3ee6db@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#400749
On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 8:16:46 AM UTC-6, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 2:19:05 AM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > On 4/12/2016 5:01 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 11:04:39 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > >> On 3/12/2016 2:24 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > >>> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:53:06 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > >>>> On 3/12/2016 1:41 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > >>>>> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:10:42 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > >>>>>> On 3/12/2016 12:29 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > >>>>>>> Sylvia Else
> > >>>>>>> On 2/12/2016 10:25 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Space time is flat for the same reason water drains out of your tub drain at a steady rate.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I'm pretty sure that it doesn't.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Sylvia
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> To provide just a little reasoning behind my guess
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> In physics, the fine-structure constant, also known as Sommerfeld's constant, commonly denoted α (the Greek letter alpha), is a fundamental physical constant characterizing the strength of the electromagnetic interaction between elementary charged particles.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> This would directly influence the Quantum Physical creation of particle pair creation from the vacuum and the initial conditions of & resultant effects to the volume of spacetime.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> All along I have been saying a mass energy scalar per cubic meter needs to be derived.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> & the fourth root of c is 131.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 299792458^(1 / 4) = 131.584633668
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> (137036^4) * (G^2) * 2 = 3.14160446
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> ((137036^4) * (G^2) * 2) / pi = 1.00000376
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> What's the point of ignoring my comment and just adding more gibberish?
> > >>>>>> You thought something about tubs that is obviously wrong to anyone who
> > >>>>>> thinks about the physics, yet you expect to be taken seriously on a much
> > >>>>>> deeper problem?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Sylvia.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> It is "Mostly a Steady rate of flow" and a has Predictable rate of change in flow
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> It's not mostly steady - it varies continuously. Being predictable is
> > >>>> not the same as being steady.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Sylvia.
> > >>>
> > >>> Inertia and the Speed of light make it Very Steady
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Gravity and relativistic mass make changes Very Preictable
> > >>>
> > >>> Gravity is the fine Structure constant
> > >>>
> > >>> ((137036^4) * (G^2)) / (pi / 2) =  1.00000376
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Are you under the impression that this numerology nonsense means something?
> > >>
> > >> You omit the dimensions in these postings. For example, the number
> > >> 1.00000376 quoted above has the dimensions force * distance^2 / mass^2
> > >> which means that it's only close to one because of the particular choice
> > >> of units.
> > >>
> > >> Sylvia.
> > >
> > > Sweet Mother Mary ..... Are you that Dull .... or set in your ways or are you just being a TROLL ???
> > >
> > > If the Fine Structrue constant is a DIMENSIONLESS CONSTANT ..... THEN .....
> > >
> > >
> > > THIS ...(((137036^4) * (6.67406745595e-11^2)) * 2) = pi .... Means GRAVITY is DIMENSIONLESS ALSO
> > 
> > Things don't become dimensionless just because you want them to, nor 
> > because you can write an equation which would only be correct if they 
> > were dimensionless.
> > 
> > Sylvia.
> 
> it seems impossible for 2 & pi to add dimension from FSC to G
> 
> G would just be the curvature of time relative to space, mimicking a force pushing objects together

(137035.8715^2)/(pi/2)^0.5*G


1 / ((137 035.8715^2) / ((pi / 2)^0.5)) =  6.67408e-11

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#400751

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-04 06:34 -0800
Message-ID<cd94cc16-375a-44f0-8a7f-443c25286dfb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#400750
On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 8:30:06 AM UTC-6, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 8:16:46 AM UTC-6, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 2:19:05 AM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > > On 4/12/2016 5:01 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 11:04:39 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > > >> On 3/12/2016 2:24 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > > >>> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:53:06 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > > >>>> On 3/12/2016 1:41 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > > >>>>> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:10:42 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > > >>>>>> On 3/12/2016 12:29 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> Sylvia Else
> > > >>>>>>> On 2/12/2016 10:25 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Space time is flat for the same reason water drains out of your tub drain at a steady rate.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> I'm pretty sure that it doesn't.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Sylvia
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> To provide just a little reasoning behind my guess
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> In physics, the fine-structure constant, also known as Sommerfeld's constant, commonly denoted α (the Greek letter alpha), is a fundamental physical constant characterizing the strength of the electromagnetic interaction between elementary charged particles.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> This would directly influence the Quantum Physical creation of particle pair creation from the vacuum and the initial conditions of & resultant effects to the volume of spacetime.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> All along I have been saying a mass energy scalar per cubic meter needs to be derived.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> & the fourth root of c is 131.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> 299792458^(1 / 4) = 131.584633668
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> (137036^4) * (G^2) * 2 = 3.14160446
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> ((137036^4) * (G^2) * 2) / pi = 1.00000376
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> What's the point of ignoring my comment and just adding more gibberish?
> > > >>>>>> You thought something about tubs that is obviously wrong to anyone who
> > > >>>>>> thinks about the physics, yet you expect to be taken seriously on a much
> > > >>>>>> deeper problem?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Sylvia.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> It is "Mostly a Steady rate of flow" and a has Predictable rate of change in flow
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> It's not mostly steady - it varies continuously. Being predictable is
> > > >>>> not the same as being steady.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Sylvia.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Inertia and the Speed of light make it Very Steady
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Gravity and relativistic mass make changes Very Preictable
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Gravity is the fine Structure constant
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ((137036^4) * (G^2)) / (pi / 2) =  1.00000376
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> Are you under the impression that this numerology nonsense means something?
> > > >>
> > > >> You omit the dimensions in these postings. For example, the number
> > > >> 1.00000376 quoted above has the dimensions force * distance^2 / mass^2
> > > >> which means that it's only close to one because of the particular choice
> > > >> of units.
> > > >>
> > > >> Sylvia.
> > > >
> > > > Sweet Mother Mary ..... Are you that Dull .... or set in your ways or are you just being a TROLL ???
> > > >
> > > > If the Fine Structrue constant is a DIMENSIONLESS CONSTANT ..... THEN .....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > THIS ...(((137036^4) * (6.67406745595e-11^2)) * 2) = pi .... Means GRAVITY is DIMENSIONLESS ALSO
> > > 
> > > Things don't become dimensionless just because you want them to, nor 
> > > because you can write an equation which would only be correct if they 
> > > were dimensionless.
> > > 
> > > Sylvia.
> > 
> > it seems impossible for 2 & pi to add dimension from FSC to G
> > 
> > G would just be the curvature of time relative to space, mimicking a force pushing objects together
> 
> (137035.8715^2)/(pi/2)^0.5*G
> 
> 
> 1 / ((137 035.8715^2) / ((pi / 2)^0.5)) =  6.67408e-11

1/((137036^2)/(pi/2)^0.5) = 6.6740675e-11

((e * cos(137035.9991232535539893radians))  - 1) / phi = 1

just geometric ratios

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#400753

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-04 06:54 -0800
Message-ID<02d361b3-23fd-4aca-920f-75acb835dadb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#400751
On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 8:34:38 AM UTC-6, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 8:30:06 AM UTC-6, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 8:16:46 AM UTC-6, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > > On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 2:19:05 AM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > > > On 4/12/2016 5:01 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 11:04:39 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > > > >> On 3/12/2016 2:24 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > > > >>> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:53:06 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > > > >>>> On 3/12/2016 1:41 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > > > >>>>> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:10:42 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > > > >>>>>> On 3/12/2016 12:29 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>> Sylvia Else
> > > > >>>>>>> On 2/12/2016 10:25 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Space time is flat for the same reason water drains out of your tub drain at a steady rate.
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> I'm pretty sure that it doesn't.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Sylvia
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> To provide just a little reasoning behind my guess
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> In physics, the fine-structure constant, also known as Sommerfeld's constant, commonly denoted α (the Greek letter alpha), is a fundamental physical constant characterizing the strength of the electromagnetic interaction between elementary charged particles.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> This would directly influence the Quantum Physical creation of particle pair creation from the vacuum and the initial conditions of & resultant effects to the volume of spacetime.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> All along I have been saying a mass energy scalar per cubic meter needs to be derived.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> & the fourth root of c is 131.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> 299792458^(1 / 4) = 131.584633668
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> (137036^4) * (G^2) * 2 = 3.14160446
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> ((137036^4) * (G^2) * 2) / pi = 1.00000376
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> What's the point of ignoring my comment and just adding more gibberish?
> > > > >>>>>> You thought something about tubs that is obviously wrong to anyone who
> > > > >>>>>> thinks about the physics, yet you expect to be taken seriously on a much
> > > > >>>>>> deeper problem?
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Sylvia.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> It is "Mostly a Steady rate of flow" and a has Predictable rate of change in flow
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> It's not mostly steady - it varies continuously. Being predictable is
> > > > >>>> not the same as being steady.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Sylvia.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Inertia and the Speed of light make it Very Steady
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Gravity and relativistic mass make changes Very Preictable
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Gravity is the fine Structure constant
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> ((137036^4) * (G^2)) / (pi / 2) =  1.00000376
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Are you under the impression that this numerology nonsense means something?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> You omit the dimensions in these postings. For example, the number
> > > > >> 1.00000376 quoted above has the dimensions force * distance^2 / mass^2
> > > > >> which means that it's only close to one because of the particular choice
> > > > >> of units.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Sylvia.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sweet Mother Mary ..... Are you that Dull .... or set in your ways or are you just being a TROLL ???
> > > > >
> > > > > If the Fine Structrue constant is a DIMENSIONLESS CONSTANT ..... THEN .....
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > THIS ...(((137036^4) * (6.67406745595e-11^2)) * 2) = pi .... Means GRAVITY is DIMENSIONLESS ALSO
> > > > 
> > > > Things don't become dimensionless just because you want them to, nor 
> > > > because you can write an equation which would only be correct if they 
> > > > were dimensionless.
> > > > 
> > > > Sylvia.
> > > 
> > > it seems impossible for 2 & pi to add dimension from FSC to G
> > > 
> > > G would just be the curvature of time relative to space, mimicking a force pushing objects together

which would effect bulk modulus & wave speed & inertial properties of the medium called space time


> > 
> > (137035.8715^2)/(pi/2)^0.5*G
> > 
> > 
> > 1 / ((137 035.8715^2) / ((pi / 2)^0.5)) =  6.67408e-11
> 
> 1/((137036^2)/(pi/2)^0.5) = 6.6740675e-11
> 
> ((e * cos(137035.9991232535539893radians))  - 1) / phi = 1
> 
> just geometric ratios

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#400762

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-04 10:33 -0800
Message-ID<bbfee62c-8dc8-4bce-9d80-f4f007e0770a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#400750
On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 8:30:06 AM UTC-6, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 8:16:46 AM UTC-6, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 2:19:05 AM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > > On 4/12/2016 5:01 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 11:04:39 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > > >> On 3/12/2016 2:24 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > > >>> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:53:06 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > > >>>> On 3/12/2016 1:41 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > > >>>>> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:10:42 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > > >>>>>> On 3/12/2016 12:29 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> Sylvia Else
> > > >>>>>>> On 2/12/2016 10:25 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Space time is flat for the same reason water drains out of your tub drain at a steady rate.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> I'm pretty sure that it doesn't.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Sylvia
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> To provide just a little reasoning behind my guess
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> In physics, the fine-structure constant, also known as Sommerfeld's constant, commonly denoted α (the Greek letter alpha), is a fundamental physical constant characterizing the strength of the electromagnetic interaction between elementary charged particles.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> This would directly influence the Quantum Physical creation of particle pair creation from the vacuum and the initial conditions of & resultant effects to the volume of spacetime.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> All along I have been saying a mass energy scalar per cubic meter needs to be derived.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> & the fourth root of c is 131.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> 299792458^(1 / 4) = 131.584633668
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> (137036^4) * (G^2) * 2 = 3.14160446
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> ((137036^4) * (G^2) * 2) / pi = 1.00000376
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> What's the point of ignoring my comment and just adding more gibberish?
> > > >>>>>> You thought something about tubs that is obviously wrong to anyone who
> > > >>>>>> thinks about the physics, yet you expect to be taken seriously on a much
> > > >>>>>> deeper problem?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Sylvia.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> It is "Mostly a Steady rate of flow" and a has Predictable rate of change in flow
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> It's not mostly steady - it varies continuously. Being predictable is
> > > >>>> not the same as being steady.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Sylvia.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Inertia and the Speed of light make it Very Steady
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Gravity and relativistic mass make changes Very Preictable
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Gravity is the fine Structure constant
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ((137036^4) * (G^2)) / (pi / 2) =  1.00000376
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> Are you under the impression that this numerology nonsense means something?
> > > >>
> > > >> You omit the dimensions in these postings. For example, the number
> > > >> 1.00000376 quoted above has the dimensions force * distance^2 / mass^2
> > > >> which means that it's only close to one because of the particular choice
> > > >> of units.
> > > >>
> > > >> Sylvia.
> > > >
> > > > Sweet Mother Mary ..... Are you that Dull .... or set in your ways or are you just being a TROLL ???
> > > >
> > > > If the Fine Structrue constant is a DIMENSIONLESS CONSTANT ..... THEN .....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > THIS ...(((137036^4) * (6.67406745595e-11^2)) * 2) = pi .... Means GRAVITY is DIMENSIONLESS ALSO
> > > 
> > > Things don't become dimensionless just because you want them to, nor 
> > > because you can write an equation which would only be correct if they 
> > > were dimensionless.
> > > 
> > > Sylvia.
> > 
> > it seems impossible for 2 & pi to add dimension from FSC to G
> > 
> > G would just be the curvature of time relative to space, mimicking a force pushing objects together
> 
> (137035.8715^2)/(pi/2)^0.5*G
> 
> 
> 1 / ((137 035.8715^2) / ((pi / 2)^0.5)) =  6.67408e-11

1 / ((137036^2) / ((pi / 2)^0.5)) = 6.6740675e-11

Fuller G = 6.67406745595

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#400801

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2016-12-05 11:23 +1100
Message-ID<eajqcoFcn88U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#400749
On 5/12/2016 1:16 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 2:19:05 AM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 4/12/2016 5:01 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
>>> On Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 11:04:39 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> On 3/12/2016 2:24 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:53:06 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/12/2016 1:41 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
>>>>>>> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:10:42 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 3/12/2016 12:29 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Sylvia Else
>>>>>>>>> On 2/12/2016 10:25 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Space time is flat for the same reason water drains out of your tub drain at a steady rate.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure that it doesn't.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sylvia
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To provide just a little reasoning behind my guess
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In physics, the fine-structure constant, also known as Sommerfeld's constant, commonly denoted α (the Greek letter alpha), is a fundamental physical constant characterizing the strength of the electromagnetic interaction between elementary charged particles.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This would directly influence the Quantum Physical creation of particle pair creation from the vacuum and the initial conditions of & resultant effects to the volume of spacetime.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All along I have been saying a mass energy scalar per cubic meter needs to be derived.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> & the fourth root of c is 131.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 299792458^(1 / 4) = 131.584633668
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (137036^4) * (G^2) * 2 = 3.14160446
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ((137036^4) * (G^2) * 2) / pi = 1.00000376
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What's the point of ignoring my comment and just adding more gibberish?
>>>>>>>> You thought something about tubs that is obviously wrong to anyone who
>>>>>>>> thinks about the physics, yet you expect to be taken seriously on a much
>>>>>>>> deeper problem?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sylvia.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is "Mostly a Steady rate of flow" and a has Predictable rate of change in flow
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not mostly steady - it varies continuously. Being predictable is
>>>>>> not the same as being steady.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sylvia.
>>>>>
>>>>> Inertia and the Speed of light make it Very Steady
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gravity and relativistic mass make changes Very Preictable
>>>>>
>>>>> Gravity is the fine Structure constant
>>>>>
>>>>> ((137036^4) * (G^2)) / (pi / 2) =  1.00000376
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are you under the impression that this numerology nonsense means something?
>>>>
>>>> You omit the dimensions in these postings. For example, the number
>>>> 1.00000376 quoted above has the dimensions force * distance^2 / mass^2
>>>> which means that it's only close to one because of the particular choice
>>>> of units.
>>>>
>>>> Sylvia.
>>>
>>> Sweet Mother Mary ..... Are you that Dull .... or set in your ways or are you just being a TROLL ???
>>>
>>> If the Fine Structrue constant is a DIMENSIONLESS CONSTANT ..... THEN .....
>>>
>>>
>>> THIS ...(((137036^4) * (6.67406745595e-11^2)) * 2) = pi .... Means GRAVITY is DIMENSIONLESS ALSO
>>
>> Things don't become dimensionless just because you want them to, nor
>> because you can write an equation which would only be correct if they
>> were dimensionless.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
> it seems impossible for 2 & pi to add dimension from FSC to G
>
> G would just be the curvature of time relative to space, mimicking a force pushing objects together
>
G already has dimensions, and the fine structure constant is 
dimensionless, so your equation cannot possibly be correct.

Sylvia.

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#400803

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-04 16:53 -0800
Message-ID<19d3e8cc-597d-41ed-b1a1-4803e52a173c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#400801
On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 6:23:55 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 5/12/2016 1:16 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 2:19:05 AM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >> On 4/12/2016 5:01 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 11:04:39 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >>>> On 3/12/2016 2:24 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> >>>>> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:53:06 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >>>>>> On 3/12/2016 1:41 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:10:42 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 3/12/2016 12:29 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Sylvia Else
> >>>>>>>>> On 2/12/2016 10:25 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Space time is flat for the same reason water drains out of your tub drain at a steady rate.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure that it doesn't.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Sylvia
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> To provide just a little reasoning behind my guess
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> In physics, the fine-structure constant, also known as Sommerfeld's constant, commonly denoted α (the Greek letter alpha), is a fundamental physical constant characterizing the strength of the electromagnetic interaction between elementary charged particles.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> This would directly influence the Quantum Physical creation of particle pair creation from the vacuum and the initial conditions of & resultant effects to the volume of spacetime.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> All along I have been saying a mass energy scalar per cubic meter needs to be derived.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> & the fourth root of c is 131.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 299792458^(1 / 4) = 131.584633668
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> (137036^4) * (G^2) * 2 = 3.14160446
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ((137036^4) * (G^2) * 2) / pi = 1.00000376
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> What's the point of ignoring my comment and just adding more gibberish?
> >>>>>>>> You thought something about tubs that is obviously wrong to anyone who
> >>>>>>>> thinks about the physics, yet you expect to be taken seriously on a much
> >>>>>>>> deeper problem?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Sylvia.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It is "Mostly a Steady rate of flow" and a has Predictable rate of change in flow
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It's not mostly steady - it varies continuously. Being predictable is
> >>>>>> not the same as being steady.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sylvia.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Inertia and the Speed of light make it Very Steady
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gravity and relativistic mass make changes Very Preictable
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gravity is the fine Structure constant
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ((137036^4) * (G^2)) / (pi / 2) =  1.00000376
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Are you under the impression that this numerology nonsense means something?
> >>>>
> >>>> You omit the dimensions in these postings. For example, the number
> >>>> 1.00000376 quoted above has the dimensions force * distance^2 / mass^2
> >>>> which means that it's only close to one because of the particular choice
> >>>> of units.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sylvia.
> >>>
> >>> Sweet Mother Mary ..... Are you that Dull .... or set in your ways or are you just being a TROLL ???
> >>>
> >>> If the Fine Structrue constant is a DIMENSIONLESS CONSTANT ..... THEN .....
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> THIS ...(((137036^4) * (6.67406745595e-11^2)) * 2) = pi .... Means GRAVITY is DIMENSIONLESS ALSO
> >>
> >> Things don't become dimensionless just because you want them to, nor
> >> because you can write an equation which would only be correct if they
> >> were dimensionless.
> >>
> >> Sylvia.
> >
> > it seems impossible for 2 & pi to add dimension from FSC to G
> >
> > G would just be the curvature of time relative to space, mimicking a force pushing objects together
> >
> G already has dimensions, and the fine structure constant is 
> dimensionless, so your equation cannot possibly be correct.
> 
> Sylvia.

OK ... Change it to what looks "more Correct" to You and Let me SEE ... OK ??

Here is your Bare wood .. start Chiseling..
 
(((137036^4) * (6.67406745595e-11^2)) * 2) = pi


which looks Surprisingly like the inverse of Kinetic energy 

Ke = (m*v^2)/2

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#400805

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2016-12-05 12:36 +1100
Message-ID<eajulcFdjhlU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#400803
On 5/12/2016 11:53 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 6:23:55 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 5/12/2016 1:16 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
>>> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 2:19:05 AM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> On 4/12/2016 5:01 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 11:04:39 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/12/2016 2:24 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
>>>>>>> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:53:06 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 3/12/2016 1:41 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:10:42 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/12/2016 12:29 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Sylvia Else
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/12/2016 10:25 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Space time is flat for the same reason water drains out of your tub drain at a steady rate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure that it doesn't.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sylvia
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To provide just a little reasoning behind my guess
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In physics, the fine-structure constant, also known as Sommerfeld's constant, commonly denoted α (the Greek letter alpha), is a fundamental physical constant characterizing the strength of the electromagnetic interaction between elementary charged particles.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This would directly influence the Quantum Physical creation of particle pair creation from the vacuum and the initial conditions of & resultant effects to the volume of spacetime.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> All along I have been saying a mass energy scalar per cubic meter needs to be derived.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> & the fourth root of c is 131.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 299792458^(1 / 4) = 131.584633668
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (137036^4) * (G^2) * 2 = 3.14160446
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ((137036^4) * (G^2) * 2) / pi = 1.00000376
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What's the point of ignoring my comment and just adding more gibberish?
>>>>>>>>>> You thought something about tubs that is obviously wrong to anyone who
>>>>>>>>>> thinks about the physics, yet you expect to be taken seriously on a much
>>>>>>>>>> deeper problem?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sylvia.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is "Mostly a Steady rate of flow" and a has Predictable rate of change in flow
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's not mostly steady - it varies continuously. Being predictable is
>>>>>>>> not the same as being steady.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sylvia.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Inertia and the Speed of light make it Very Steady
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gravity and relativistic mass make changes Very Preictable
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gravity is the fine Structure constant
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ((137036^4) * (G^2)) / (pi / 2) =  1.00000376
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you under the impression that this numerology nonsense means something?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You omit the dimensions in these postings. For example, the number
>>>>>> 1.00000376 quoted above has the dimensions force * distance^2 / mass^2
>>>>>> which means that it's only close to one because of the particular choice
>>>>>> of units.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sylvia.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sweet Mother Mary ..... Are you that Dull .... or set in your ways or are you just being a TROLL ???
>>>>>
>>>>> If the Fine Structrue constant is a DIMENSIONLESS CONSTANT ..... THEN .....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> THIS ...(((137036^4) * (6.67406745595e-11^2)) * 2) = pi .... Means GRAVITY is DIMENSIONLESS ALSO
>>>>
>>>> Things don't become dimensionless just because you want them to, nor
>>>> because you can write an equation which would only be correct if they
>>>> were dimensionless.
>>>>
>>>> Sylvia.
>>>
>>> it seems impossible for 2 & pi to add dimension from FSC to G
>>>
>>> G would just be the curvature of time relative to space, mimicking a force pushing objects together
>>>
>> G already has dimensions, and the fine structure constant is
>> dimensionless, so your equation cannot possibly be correct.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
> OK ... Change it to what looks "more Correct" to You and Let me SEE ... OK ??
>
> Here is your Bare wood .. start Chiseling..
>
> (((137036^4) * (6.67406745595e-11^2)) * 2) = pi
>
>
> which looks Surprisingly like the inverse of Kinetic energy
>

Now you have a equation consisting entirely of numbers, yet you seem to 
think it has some physical significance.

Sylvia.

> Ke = (m*v^2)/2
>

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#400808

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-04 18:37 -0800
Message-ID<bf234fb8-3659-48ec-961a-42e58b0757ab@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#400805
On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 7:36:46 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:

> >>>>> Sweet Mother Mary ..... Are you that Dull .... or set in your ways or are you just being a TROLL ???
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If the Fine Structrue constant is a DIMENSIONLESS CONSTANT ..... THEN .....
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> THIS ...(((137036^4) * (6.67406745595e-11^2)) * 2) = pi .... Means GRAVITY is DIMENSIONLESS ALSO
> >>>>
> >>>> Things don't become dimensionless just because you want them to, nor
> >>>> because you can write an equation which would only be correct if they
> >>>> were dimensionless.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sylvia.
> >>>
> >>> it seems impossible for 2 & pi to add dimension from FSC to G
> >>>
> >>> G would just be the curvature of time relative to space, mimicking a force pushing objects together
> >>>
> >> G already has dimensions, and the fine structure constant is
> >> dimensionless, so your equation cannot possibly be correct.
> >>
> >> Sylvia.
> >
> > OK ... Change it to what looks "more Correct" to You and Let me SEE ... OK ??
> >
> > Here is your Bare wood .. start Chiseling..
> >
> > (((137036^4) * (6.67406745595e-11^2)) * 2) = pi
> >
> >
> > which looks Surprisingly like the inverse of Kinetic energy
> >
> 
> Now you have a equation consisting entirely of numbers, yet you seem to 
> think it has some physical significance.
> 
> Sylvia.
> 
> > Ke = (m*v^2)/2
> >

The Fine Structure Constant is Dimensionless and Just a Number ... 
Just Rail on About that ... OK

https://goo.gl/photos/v5RPg5Q3226yvMUE6

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#400811

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2016-12-05 13:56 +1100
Message-ID<eak3acFeifaU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#400808
On 5/12/2016 1:37 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 7:36:46 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
>
>>>>>>> Sweet Mother Mary ..... Are you that Dull .... or set in your ways or are you just being a TROLL ???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the Fine Structrue constant is a DIMENSIONLESS CONSTANT ..... THEN .....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> THIS ...(((137036^4) * (6.67406745595e-11^2)) * 2) = pi .... Means GRAVITY is DIMENSIONLESS ALSO
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Things don't become dimensionless just because you want them to, nor
>>>>>> because you can write an equation which would only be correct if they
>>>>>> were dimensionless.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sylvia.
>>>>>
>>>>> it seems impossible for 2 & pi to add dimension from FSC to G
>>>>>
>>>>> G would just be the curvature of time relative to space, mimicking a force pushing objects together
>>>>>
>>>> G already has dimensions, and the fine structure constant is
>>>> dimensionless, so your equation cannot possibly be correct.
>>>>
>>>> Sylvia.
>>>
>>> OK ... Change it to what looks "more Correct" to You and Let me SEE ... OK ??
>>>
>>> Here is your Bare wood .. start Chiseling..
>>>
>>> (((137036^4) * (6.67406745595e-11^2)) * 2) = pi
>>>
>>>
>>> which looks Surprisingly like the inverse of Kinetic energy
>>>
>>
>> Now you have a equation consisting entirely of numbers, yet you seem to
>> think it has some physical significance.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>>
>>> Ke = (m*v^2)/2
>>>
>
> The Fine Structure Constant is Dimensionless and Just a Number ...
> Just Rail on About that ... OK

Yes, the fine structure constant is dimensionless, which is fine, 
because it's defined in a way that leads to its being dimensionless. 
Indeed, most of its significance comes from the fact that it is 
dimensionless - everyone in the universe will arrive at the same number 
regardless of the units used.

G is not defined that way, is not dimensionless and has a numerical 
value dependent on the units used.

Sylvia.

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