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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2026-09-29 19:11 -0700 |
| Last post | 2026-10-02 11:37 +0200 |
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Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-29 19:11 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence guido wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-09-30 10:14 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-09-30 18:37 +1000
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-30 13:34 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-01 20:07 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-30 13:30 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:22 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence HenryWilson <Hgw@home.com> - 2026-10-02 12:07 +0000
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:26 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:27 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:30 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-10-02 11:37 +0200
| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-29 19:11 -0700 |
| Subject | Super Intelligence |
| Message-ID | <6ABC6FC3.4B51@ix.netcom.com> |
Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me? -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | guido wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-30 10:14 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <119igcu$1no7$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #673896 |
Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker: > Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me? What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human irrationality? -- guido wugi
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| From | Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> |
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| Date | 2026-09-30 18:37 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <119ihno$28sd$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #673901 |
On 30/09/26 18:14, guido wugi wrote: > Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker: >> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me? Well, there's Dunning and Kruger. > What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human > irrationality? It's hard to tell, because at present we are faced with a combination of the two. There is an urgent need to equip AIs with something equivalent to the first two laws of robotics, but people who want to put in safeguards are being blocked by an incredibly stupid US president. -- Peter Moylan peter@pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org Newcastle, NSW
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-30 13:34 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6ABD724E.4B04@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #673903 |
Peter Moylan wrote: > > On 30/09/26 18:14, guido wugi wrote: > > Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker: > > >> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me? > > Well, there's Dunning and Kruger. > > > What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human > > irrationality? > > It's hard to tell, because at present we are faced with a combination of > the two. There is an urgent need to equip AIs with something equivalent > to the first two laws of robotics, but people who want to put in > safeguards are being blocked by an incredibly stupid US president. When Albert Einstein builted the atomic bomb he didn't have any safeguards... just drop the thing. kill them all! You see, what THEY won't tell you.. Albert Einstein didn't believe human beings had any souls. > > -- > Peter Moylan peter@pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org > Newcastle, NSW -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | occam <occam@nowhere.nix> |
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| Date | 2026-10-01 20:07 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ni7ls0Fd4aU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #673903 |
On 30/09/2026 10:37, Peter Moylan wrote: > On 30/09/26 18:14, guido wugi wrote: >> Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker: > >>> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me? > > Well, there's Dunning and Kruger. > >> What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human >> irrationality? > > It's hard to tell, because at present we are faced with a combination of > the two. There is an urgent need to equip AIs with something equivalent > to the first two laws of robotics, but people who want to put in > safeguards are being blocked by an incredibly stupid US president. > Hmm, for once I find myself in agreement with the Drumph. To be clear, he is not blocking safeguards. He is saying slowing done AI development is not a good idea. He is correct in saying that, because if the competition (China, Russia) does not conform to those guidelines, they will end up with far more potent and aggressive AIs than those of OpenAI and Anthropic. Have you read Neal Stepheson's cyberpunk novels 'Snow Crash' and 'Cryptonomicon'? In there human agents don headgear and penetrate enemy cyber-defences, a bit like (virtual) fighter pilots navigating a war zone. Considering the novels were written in the 1990s - well before current AI developments - they are quite visionary.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-30 13:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6ABD7160.44BD@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #673901 |
guido wugi wrote: > > Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker: > > Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me? > > What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human > irrationality? It's not Ai, it's Si. and the universe is irrationality. > > -- > guido wugi guena? leave the gun, take the cannoli. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-01 22:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6ABF3FA5.3EE6@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #673901 |
Silvano wrote: > > guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben: > > Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker: > >> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me? > > > > What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human > > irrationality? > > > > Artificial stupidity, IMHO. dat would be The Three Stooges show, or the Abbot and Costello show, or any tvee show with a laugh track. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | HenryWilson <Hgw@home.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-02 12:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <18dab503ca584d42$844$16561$4256dc03@news.newsgroupdirect.com> |
| In reply to | #674057 |
On Thu, 01 Oct 2026 22:22:45 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > Silvano wrote: >> >> guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben: >> > Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker: >> >> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me? >> > >> > What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human >> > irrationality? Have you considered 'negative' intelligence? >> > >> > >> Artificial stupidity, IMHO. > > dat would be The Three Stooges show, or the Abbot and Costello show, > or any tvee show with a laugh track.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-01 22:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6ABF4089.72DB@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #673901 |
s|b wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 12:23:07 +0200, Silvano wrote: > > > guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben: > > > > > Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker: > > >> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me? > > > > > > What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human > > > irrationality? > > > Artificial stupidity, IMHO. > > What about REAL stupidity? dat would be Kamala Harris Kaka Mala. > > -- > Horum omnium fortissimi sunt Belgae. > - Julius Caesar -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-01 22:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6ABF40D1.7F0E@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #673901 |
s|b wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 12:23:07 +0200, Silvano wrote: > > > guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben: > > > > > Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker: > > >> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me? > > > > > > What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human > > > irrationality? > > > Artificial stupidity, IMHO. > > What about REAL stupidity? The majority of physics teachers don't have a physics degree. > > -- > Horum omnium fortissimi sunt Belgae. > - Julius Caesar -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-01 22:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6ABF4178.2F71@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #673901 |
s|b wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 12:23:07 +0200, Silvano wrote: > > > guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben: > > > > > Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker: > > >> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me? > > > > > > What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human > > > irrationality? > > > Artificial stupidity, IMHO. > > What about REAL stupidity? Putting a peeing devise in the same place of a vagina? dats real stupidity! whos idea was dat? > > -- > Horum omnium fortissimi sunt Belgae. > - Julius Caesar -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-02 11:37 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <119nu14$1vc2f$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #674060 |
Op 2/10/2026 om 7:30 schreef The Starmaker: > s|b wrote: >> >> On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 12:23:07 +0200, Silvano wrote: >> >>> guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben: >>> >>>> Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker: >>>>> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me? >>>> >>>> What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human >>>> irrationality? >> >>> Artificial stupidity, IMHO. >> >> What about REAL stupidity? > > > Putting a peeing devise in the same place of a vagina? > > dats real stupidity! > > whos idea was dat? That's the joke about God's profession as creator of personkind. An artist? (the beauty of it all!) An architect? (monumental!) A civil engineer of course: who else is capable of laying the waste disposal systems through and along the leisure/pleasure areas? -- guido wugi
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