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| Started by | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2023-08-06 15:31 -0700 |
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Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-06 15:31 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-06 15:37 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-06 18:07 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-06 19:08 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-06 20:34 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-06 21:18 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-07 01:04 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-07 11:15 +0200
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-07 08:24 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-07 08:31 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-08-07 10:21 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-07 19:32 +0200
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-07 12:39 -0500
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-07 16:58 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-07 18:41 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-08-08 07:30 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-08 12:26 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-08 21:49 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-08 08:47 +0200
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-08-16 07:47 +0200
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-08 09:04 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-08 12:57 -0500
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-08 11:47 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-08 15:52 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-08 21:37 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-08-09 08:26 +0200
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-09 12:43 +0200
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-09 11:54 -0400
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-09 18:25 +0200
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-09 09:48 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-09 11:14 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-09 21:47 +0200
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-09 13:05 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-09 22:57 +0200
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-09 15:21 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-09 15:39 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-10 11:37 +0200
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-10 07:35 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-10 07:37 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-10 08:31 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-09 16:16 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-09 19:17 +0200
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-09 21:47 +0200
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-08-10 07:31 +0200
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-10 11:37 +0200
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-08-11 08:20 +0200
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-16 18:19 -0400
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-08-17 07:42 +0200
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 00:53 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 02:04 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Booker Martos <etrs@eoaksmao.tb> - 2023-08-23 10:09 +0000
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-23 16:33 +0000
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-08-24 02:06 +0200
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-24 00:23 +0000
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-24 13:25 -0400
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 10:31 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 13:09 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-24 21:45 +0000
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 15:10 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-25 12:07 +0000
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 14:09 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Lee Mihailovich <mmhc@eoeilhll.av> - 2023-08-26 21:20 +0000
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 20:48 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-25 12:12 +0000
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-08-25 14:34 +0200
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-25 15:47 +0000
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-25 02:03 -0400
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-25 12:21 +0000
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-26 19:54 -0400
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Ryker Libman <kmki@kkrmkaik.km> - 2023-08-27 08:25 +0000
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-27 10:47 -0500
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Marcus Rempel <raer@rlsrmcaa.rr> - 2023-08-27 19:40 +0000
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-08-26 09:13 +0200
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-26 10:44 -0400
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 08:09 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 14:12 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-08-31 08:35 +0200
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-31 09:19 +0200
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-31 00:31 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-09-08 09:28 +0200
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-09-08 00:43 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-09-08 23:18 -0500
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-09-08 22:16 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-09-09 07:59 +0200
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-09-08 23:47 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-09-10 07:24 +0200
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-09-09 22:45 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-09-10 08:01 +0200
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 11:07 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 13:13 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 11:25 +0200
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-08-30 07:52 +0200
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-28 12:22 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-06 21:32 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-08 12:28 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-08-16 07:50 +0200
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Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-09 09:18 -0700
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Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-09 09:47 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-09 11:03 -0700
Re: Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-08-23 08:26 +0200
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| From | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-06 15:31 -0700 |
| Subject | Eddington, Einstein and Lorentz shared the vice of plagiarism. |
| Message-ID | <40d3a5fc-a995-406c-bf5b-baeafa83cd73n@googlegroups.com> |
Plagiarism is an act of academic dishonesty. The three names in the topic, besides having an indelible thread that connect them to 1915-1919 GR HOAX (Lorentz as the hub between Einstein and Eddington during WWI), built their careers MAINLY on plagiarism over other's people work. In the case of Eddington, and his infamous "contributions" to the internal constitution of the stars, he deserved a public accusation of James Jeans (1877–1946) and others about many of the fundamental issues concerning the internal structure of the stars. This extract is from a letter which Jeans published in The Observatory in November 1926 (Jeans, 1926): "May I conclude by assuring Prof. Eddington it would give me great pleasure if he could remove a long-standing source of friction between us by abstaining in future from making wild attacks on my work which he cannot substantiate, and by making the usual acknowledgements whenever he finds that my previous work is of use to him?" "I attach all the more importance to the second part of the request because I find that some of the most fruitful ideas which I have introduced into astronomical physics –e.g., the annihilation of matter as the source of stellar energy, and highly dissociated atoms and free electrons as the substance of the stars – are by now fairly generally attributed to Prof. Eddington." But Eddington, the Plumian Professor of Astronomy in Cambridge since 1913, where he was to remain for the rest of his career, and where he published over a dozen papers between 1916 and 1924 about the internal constitution of the stars, was "untouchable" because of his role in the fudging and cooking of data of the 1919 eclipse, which launched Einstein to the stardom. Lorentz, being the PR man for Einstein since 1910, and the communicating hub between Eddington and Einstein during WWI and afterward, remained the spokesperson for Einstein to the English media until 1921. In 1920, his famous comment: "Einstein is not an astronomer, but...." left everyone puzzled about what he meant. A Freudian slip. Lorentz had also several dead bodies in the closet of plagiarism, like to steal completely the results of Voigt's relativity (1887), which was credited by Minkowski in June 1908 as THE SOLE ORIGIN of relativity.
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| From | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-06 15:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <01e5d8ee-53df-4fbb-a5d6-e6304e76ebbbn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #616937 |
On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 7:31:56 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote: > Plagiarism is an act of academic dishonesty. > > The three names in the topic, besides having an indelible thread that > connect them to 1915-1919 GR HOAX (Lorentz as the hub between > Einstein and Eddington during WWI), built their careers MAINLY on > plagiarism over other's people work. > > In the case of Eddington, and his infamous "contributions" to the internal constitution of the stars, he deserved a public accusation of James Jeans (1877–1946) and others about many of the fundamental issues concerning the internal structure of the stars. > > This extract is from a letter which Jeans published in The Observatory in November 1926 (Jeans, 1926): > > "May I conclude by assuring Prof. Eddington it would give me great pleasure if he could remove a long-standing source of friction between us by abstaining in future from making wild attacks on my work which he cannot substantiate, and by making the usual acknowledgements whenever he finds that my previous work is of use to him?" > > "I attach all the more importance to the second part of the request > because I find that some of the most fruitful ideas which I have introduced into astronomical physics –e.g., the annihilation of matter as the source of stellar energy, and highly dissociated atoms and free electrons as the substance of the stars – are by now fairly generally attributed to Prof. Eddington." > > But Eddington, the Plumian Professor of Astronomy in Cambridge since > 1913, where he was to remain for the rest of his career, and where he published over a dozen papers between 1916 and 1924 about the internal constitution of the stars, was "untouchable" because of his role in the > fudging and cooking of data of the 1919 eclipse, which launched Einstein > to the stardom. > > Lorentz, being the PR man for Einstein since 1910, and the communicating > hub between Eddington and Einstein during WWI and afterward, remained > the spokesperson for Einstein to the English media until 1921. > > In 1920, his famous comment: "Einstein is not an astronomer, but...." left > everyone puzzled about what he meant. A Freudian slip. > > Lorentz had also several dead bodies in the closet of plagiarism, like to > steal completely the results of Voigt's relativity (1887), which was credited > by Minkowski in June 1908 as THE SOLE ORIGIN of relativity. A common trait of homosexuals: No decency, no moral, no honesty, no guilt, no shame and no limits to their degeneracy in every aspect of life.
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| From | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-06 18:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <95326103-36e3-4ef8-8a43-9dfecf22dd12n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #616938 |
On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 7:37:47 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote: > On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 7:31:56 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote: > > Plagiarism is an act of academic dishonesty. > > > > The three names in the topic, besides having an indelible thread that > > connect them to 1915-1919 GR HOAX (Lorentz as the hub between > > Einstein and Eddington during WWI), built their careers MAINLY on > > plagiarism over other's people work. > > > > In the case of Eddington, and his infamous "contributions" to the internal constitution of the stars, he deserved a public accusation of James Jeans (1877–1946) and others about many of the fundamental issues concerning the internal structure of the stars. > > > > This extract is from a letter which Jeans published in The Observatory in November 1926 (Jeans, 1926): > > > > "May I conclude by assuring Prof. Eddington it would give me great pleasure if he could remove a long-standing source of friction between us by abstaining in future from making wild attacks on my work which he cannot substantiate, and by making the usual acknowledgements whenever he finds that my previous work is of use to him?" > > > > "I attach all the more importance to the second part of the request > > because I find that some of the most fruitful ideas which I have introduced into astronomical physics –e.g., the annihilation of matter as the source of stellar energy, and highly dissociated atoms and free electrons as the substance of the stars – are by now fairly generally attributed to Prof. Eddington." > > > > But Eddington, the Plumian Professor of Astronomy in Cambridge since > > 1913, where he was to remain for the rest of his career, and where he published over a dozen papers between 1916 and 1924 about the internal constitution of the stars, was "untouchable" because of his role in the > > fudging and cooking of data of the 1919 eclipse, which launched Einstein > > to the stardom. > > > > Lorentz, being the PR man for Einstein since 1910, and the communicating > > hub between Eddington and Einstein during WWI and afterward, remained > > the spokesperson for Einstein to the English media until 1921. > > > > In 1920, his famous comment: "Einstein is not an astronomer, but...." left > > everyone puzzled about what he meant. A Freudian slip. > > > > Lorentz had also several dead bodies in the closet of plagiarism, like to > > steal completely the results of Voigt's relativity (1887), which was credited > > by Minkowski in June 1908 as THE SOLE ORIGIN of relativity. > A common trait of homosexuals: > > No decency, no moral, no honesty, no guilt, no shame and no limits to their degeneracy in every aspect of life. Eddington and the 1.75" starlight deflection 1919 HOAX, in order to not go to prison for homosexual and coward (WWI license). The nest of homos at Cambridge and the Royal Society were good covering their dirty secrets. Pedos during all the Victorians age.
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| From | JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-06 19:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e5264b40-c433-4adb-a617-869053af3768n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #616938 |
On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 3:37:47 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote: > On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 7:31:56 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote: > > Plagiarism is an act of academic dishonesty. > > > > The three names in the topic, besides having an indelible thread that > > connect them to 1915-1919 GR HOAX (Lorentz as the hub between > > Einstein and Eddington during WWI), built their careers MAINLY on > > plagiarism over other's people work. > > > > In the case of Eddington, and his infamous "contributions" to the internal constitution of the stars, he deserved a public accusation of James Jeans (1877–1946) and others about many of the fundamental issues concerning the internal structure of the stars. > > > > This extract is from a letter which Jeans published in The Observatory in November 1926 (Jeans, 1926): > > > > "May I conclude by assuring Prof. Eddington it would give me great pleasure if he could remove a long-standing source of friction between us by abstaining in future from making wild attacks on my work which he cannot substantiate, and by making the usual acknowledgements whenever he finds that my previous work is of use to him?" > > > > "I attach all the more importance to the second part of the request > > because I find that some of the most fruitful ideas which I have introduced into astronomical physics –e.g., the annihilation of matter as the source of stellar energy, and highly dissociated atoms and free electrons as the substance of the stars – are by now fairly generally attributed to Prof. Eddington." > > > > But Eddington, the Plumian Professor of Astronomy in Cambridge since > > 1913, where he was to remain for the rest of his career, and where he published over a dozen papers between 1916 and 1924 about the internal constitution of the stars, was "untouchable" because of his role in the > > fudging and cooking of data of the 1919 eclipse, which launched Einstein > > to the stardom. > > > > Lorentz, being the PR man for Einstein since 1910, and the communicating > > hub between Eddington and Einstein during WWI and afterward, remained > > the spokesperson for Einstein to the English media until 1921. > > > > In 1920, his famous comment: "Einstein is not an astronomer, but...." left > > everyone puzzled about what he meant. A Freudian slip. > > > > Lorentz had also several dead bodies in the closet of plagiarism, like to > > steal completely the results of Voigt's relativity (1887), which was credited > > by Minkowski in June 1908 as THE SOLE ORIGIN of relativity. > A common trait of homosexuals: > > No decency, no moral, no honesty, no guilt, no shame and no limits to their degeneracy in every aspect of life. See a doctor. -- Jan
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| From | Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-06 20:34 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <35cf8b2e-f642-4b04-8aab-2ed974e4511dn@googlegroups.com> |
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On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 7:08:19 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote: > On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 3:37:47 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote: > > On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 7:31:56 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote: > > > Plagiarism is an act of academic dishonesty. > > > > > > The three names in the topic, besides having an indelible thread that > > > connect them to 1915-1919 GR HOAX (Lorentz as the hub between > > > Einstein and Eddington during WWI), built their careers MAINLY on > > > plagiarism over other's people work. > > > > > > In the case of Eddington, and his infamous "contributions" to the internal constitution of the stars, he deserved a public accusation of James Jeans (1877–1946) and others about many of the fundamental issues concerning the internal structure of the stars. > > > > > > This extract is from a letter which Jeans published in The Observatory in November 1926 (Jeans, 1926): > > > > > > "May I conclude by assuring Prof. Eddington it would give me great pleasure if he could remove a long-standing source of friction between us by abstaining in future from making wild attacks on my work which he cannot substantiate, and by making the usual acknowledgements whenever he finds that my previous work is of use to him?" > > > > > > "I attach all the more importance to the second part of the request > > > because I find that some of the most fruitful ideas which I have introduced into astronomical physics –e.g., the annihilation of matter as the source of stellar energy, and highly dissociated atoms and free electrons as the substance of the stars – are by now fairly generally attributed to Prof. Eddington." > > > > > > But Eddington, the Plumian Professor of Astronomy in Cambridge since > > > 1913, where he was to remain for the rest of his career, and where he published over a dozen papers between 1916 and 1924 about the internal constitution of the stars, was "untouchable" because of his role in the > > > fudging and cooking of data of the 1919 eclipse, which launched Einstein > > > to the stardom. > > > > > > Lorentz, being the PR man for Einstein since 1910, and the communicating > > > hub between Eddington and Einstein during WWI and afterward, remained > > > the spokesperson for Einstein to the English media until 1921. > > > > > > In 1920, his famous comment: "Einstein is not an astronomer, but...." left > > > everyone puzzled about what he meant. A Freudian slip. > > > > > > Lorentz had also several dead bodies in the closet of plagiarism, like to > > > steal completely the results of Voigt's relativity (1887), which was credited > > > by Minkowski in June 1908 as THE SOLE ORIGIN of relativity. > > A common trait of homosexuals: > > > > No decency, no moral, no honesty, no guilt, no shame and no limits to their degeneracy in every aspect of life. > See a doctor. As soon as possible...
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| From | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-06 21:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <307a6ced-00c0-4049-a5ad-0bbc9d1ec4b8n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #616937 |
On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 7:31:56 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote: > Plagiarism is an act of academic dishonesty. > > The three names in the topic, besides having an indelible thread that > connect them to 1915-1919 GR HOAX (Lorentz as the hub between > Einstein and Eddington during WWI), built their careers MAINLY on > plagiarism over other's people work. > > In the case of Eddington, and his infamous "contributions" to the internal constitution of the stars, he deserved a public accusation of James Jeans (1877–1946) and others about many of the fundamental issues concerning the internal structure of the stars. > > This extract is from a letter which Jeans published in The Observatory in November 1926 (Jeans, 1926): > > "May I conclude by assuring Prof. Eddington it would give me great pleasure if he could remove a long-standing source of friction between us by abstaining in future from making wild attacks on my work which he cannot substantiate, and by making the usual acknowledgements whenever he finds that my previous work is of use to him?" > > "I attach all the more importance to the second part of the request > because I find that some of the most fruitful ideas which I have introduced into astronomical physics –e.g., the annihilation of matter as the source of stellar energy, and highly dissociated atoms and free electrons as the substance of the stars – are by now fairly generally attributed to Prof. Eddington." > > But Eddington, the Plumian Professor of Astronomy in Cambridge since > 1913, where he was to remain for the rest of his career, and where he published over a dozen papers between 1916 and 1924 about the internal constitution of the stars, was "untouchable" because of his role in the > fudging and cooking of data of the 1919 eclipse, which launched Einstein > to the stardom. > > Lorentz, being the PR man for Einstein since 1910, and the communicating > hub between Eddington and Einstein during WWI and afterward, remained > the spokesperson for Einstein to the English media until 1921. > > In 1920, his famous comment: "Einstein is not an astronomer, but...." left > everyone puzzled about what he meant. A Freudian slip. > > Lorentz had also several dead bodies in the closet of plagiarism, like to > steal completely the results of Voigt's relativity (1887), which was credited > by Minkowski in June 1908 as THE SOLE ORIGIN of relativity. Partners in crime: Ehrenfest and Lorentz were the bridge between Einstein and Freundlich during WWI, as any connection between UK and Germany was an act of treason. Here are partying, 4 years after the end of WWI, to celebrate the HOAX. Einstein, Ehrenfest, De Sitter; Eddington and Lorentz, 26 September 1923, Leiden.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Einstein,_Ehrenfest,_De_Sitter;_Eddington_and_Lorentz,_26_September_1923,_Leiden.jpg
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| From | JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-07 01:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <edf7b6b6-7600-45f9-8636-43eaa83f704bn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #616961 |
On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 9:18:58 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote: > On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 7:31:56 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote: > > Plagiarism is an act of academic dishonesty. > > > > The three names in the topic, besides having an indelible thread that > > connect them to 1915-1919 GR HOAX (Lorentz as the hub between > > Einstein and Eddington during WWI), built their careers MAINLY on > > plagiarism over other's people work. > > > > In the case of Eddington, and his infamous "contributions" to the internal constitution of the stars, he deserved a public accusation of James Jeans (1877–1946) and others about many of the fundamental issues concerning the internal structure of the stars. > > > > This extract is from a letter which Jeans published in The Observatory in November 1926 (Jeans, 1926): > > > > "May I conclude by assuring Prof. Eddington it would give me great pleasure if he could remove a long-standing source of friction between us by abstaining in future from making wild attacks on my work which he cannot substantiate, and by making the usual acknowledgements whenever he finds that my previous work is of use to him?" > > > > "I attach all the more importance to the second part of the request > > because I find that some of the most fruitful ideas which I have introduced into astronomical physics –e.g., the annihilation of matter as the source of stellar energy, and highly dissociated atoms and free electrons as the substance of the stars – are by now fairly generally attributed to Prof. Eddington." > > > > But Eddington, the Plumian Professor of Astronomy in Cambridge since > > 1913, where he was to remain for the rest of his career, and where he published over a dozen papers between 1916 and 1924 about the internal constitution of the stars, was "untouchable" because of his role in the > > fudging and cooking of data of the 1919 eclipse, which launched Einstein > > to the stardom. > > > > Lorentz, being the PR man for Einstein since 1910, and the communicating > > hub between Eddington and Einstein during WWI and afterward, remained > > the spokesperson for Einstein to the English media until 1921. > > > > In 1920, his famous comment: "Einstein is not an astronomer, but...." left > > everyone puzzled about what he meant. A Freudian slip. > > > > Lorentz had also several dead bodies in the closet of plagiarism, like to > > steal completely the results of Voigt's relativity (1887), which was credited > > by Minkowski in June 1908 as THE SOLE ORIGIN of relativity. > Partners in crime: Ehrenfest and Lorentz were the bridge between Einstein and Freundlich during WWI, as any connection > between UK and Germany was an act of treason. > > Here are partying, 4 years after the end of WWI, to celebrate the HOAX. > > Einstein, Ehrenfest, De Sitter; Eddington and Lorentz, 26 September 1923, Leiden.jpg > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Einstein,_Ehrenfest,_De_Sitter;_Eddington_and_Lorentz,_26_September_1923,_Leiden.jpg Your posts are complete idiocies. -- Jan
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2023-08-07 11:15 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1qf3adg.14mwtp97dr0obN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #616967 |
JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 9:18:58?PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote: [-] > > Partners in crime: Ehrenfest and Lorentz were the bridge between > > Einstein and Freundlich during WWI, as any connection between UK and > > Germany was an act of treason. > > > > Here are partying, 4 years after the end of WWI, to celebrate the HOAX. > > > > Einstein, Ehrenfest, De Sitter; Eddington and Lorentz, 26 September > > 1923, Leiden.jpg > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Einstein,_Ehrenfest,_De_Sitter;_ > > Eddington_and_Lorentz,_26_September_1923,_Leiden.jpg > > Your posts are complete idiocies. Indeed, and changing idiocies too. Sometime ago RH had evil Einstein stealing relativity from good Lorentz. Now, perhaps because our nutcase has learned in the meantime (from my postings perhaps) that Einstein and Lorentz were friends, and that Lorentz had wanted to have Einstein as his succesor on his chair in Leyden Lorentz has become a baddie too. BTW, I write this reply to correct another misunderstanding: Einstein, having the Swiss nationality, travelled on a Swiss passport. As a citizen of a neutral country he could have gone to Britain. (by way of Holland) He didn't want to, because he felt that it was his duty to stay in Berlin with family and friends, and suffer the hardships of food shortages and rationing with them, Jan
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| From | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-07 08:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ee751424-69ec-4cc5-aecf-3ad9c5760cb7n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #616978 |
On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 6:15:03 AM UTC-3, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> JanPB <fil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 9:18:58?PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> [-]
> > > Partners in crime: Ehrenfest and Lorentz were the bridge between
> > > Einstein and Freundlich during WWI, as any connection between UK and
> > > Germany was an act of treason.
> > >
> > > Here are partying, 4 years after the end of WWI, to celebrate the HOAX.
> > >
> > > Einstein, Ehrenfest, De Sitter; Eddington and Lorentz, 26 September
> > > 1923, Leiden.jpg
> > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Einstein,_Ehrenfest,_De_Sitter;_
> > > Eddington_and_Lorentz,_26_September_1923,_Leiden.jpg
> >
> > Your posts are complete idiocies.
> Indeed, and changing idiocies too.
> Sometime ago RH had evil Einstein stealing relativity
> from good Lorentz.
> Now, perhaps because our nutcase has learned in the meantime
> (from my postings perhaps) that Einstein and Lorentz were friends,
> and that Lorentz had wanted to have Einstein as his succesor
> on his chair in Leyden Lorentz has become a baddie too.
>
> BTW, I write this reply to correct another misunderstanding:
> Einstein, having the Swiss nationality, travelled on a Swiss passport.
> As a citizen of a neutral country he could have gone to Britain.
> (by way of Holland)
> He didn't want to, because he felt that it was his duty
> to stay in Berlin with family and friends,
> and suffer the hardships of food shortages and rationing with them,
>
> Jan
https://www.timesofisrael.com/einstein-letter-written-the-day-he-renounced-german-citizenship-sold-at-auction/
A letter written by Albert Einstein on the day he renounced his German citizenship, after realizing he could not return due to the rise of the Nazis, has been sold at auction.
The letter written on board the S.S. Belgenland and dated March 28, 1933, sold for $30,250 at the Nate D. Sanders Auction House in Los Angeles. Bidding for Thursday night’s auction started at $25,000.
https://best-citizenships.com/2020/08/08/how-many-citizenships-albert-einstein-had/
Albert Einstein Citizenships
Kingdom of Württemberg German Empire (1879–1896) *****
Stateless (1896–1901)
Switzerland (1901–1955)
Austria during the Austro-Hungarian Empire (1911–1912)
Kingdom of Prussia during the German Empire (1914–1918) *****
Free State of Prussia (Germany, 1918–1933) *****
United States (1940–1955)
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| From | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-07 08:31 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e7d740eb-b6df-46d0-bd55-b42e5e72a949n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #616990 |
On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 12:24:17 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote: > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 6:15:03 AM UTC-3, J. J. Lodder wrote: > > JanPB <fil...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 9:18:58?PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote: > > [-] > > > > Partners in crime: Ehrenfest and Lorentz were the bridge between > > > > Einstein and Freundlich during WWI, as any connection between UK and > > > > Germany was an act of treason. > > > > > > > > Here are partying, 4 years after the end of WWI, to celebrate the HOAX. > > > > > > > > Einstein, Ehrenfest, De Sitter; Eddington and Lorentz, 26 September > > > > 1923, Leiden.jpg > > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Einstein,_Ehrenfest,_De_Sitter;_ > > > > Eddington_and_Lorentz,_26_September_1923,_Leiden.jpg > > > > > > Your posts are complete idiocies. > > Indeed, and changing idiocies too. > > Sometime ago RH had evil Einstein stealing relativity > > from good Lorentz. > > Now, perhaps because our nutcase has learned in the meantime > > (from my postings perhaps) that Einstein and Lorentz were friends, > > and that Lorentz had wanted to have Einstein as his succesor > > on his chair in Leyden Lorentz has become a baddie too. > > > > BTW, I write this reply to correct another misunderstanding: > > Einstein, having the Swiss nationality, travelled on a Swiss passport. > > As a citizen of a neutral country he could have gone to Britain. > > (by way of Holland) > > He didn't want to, because he felt that it was his duty > > to stay in Berlin with family and friends, > > and suffer the hardships of food shortages and rationing with them, > > > > Jan > https://www.timesofisrael.com/einstein-letter-written-the-day-he-renounced-german-citizenship-sold-at-auction/ > > A letter written by Albert Einstein on the day he renounced his German citizenship, after realizing he could not return due to the rise of the Nazis, has been sold at auction. > > The letter written on board the S.S. Belgenland and dated March 28, 1933, sold for $30,250 at the Nate D. Sanders Auction House in Los Angeles. Bidding for Thursday night’s auction started at $25,000. > > > https://best-citizenships.com/2020/08/08/how-many-citizenships-albert-einstein-had/ > > Albert Einstein Citizenships > > Kingdom of Württemberg German Empire (1879–1896) ***** > Stateless (1896–1901) > Switzerland (1901–1955) > Austria during the Austro-Hungarian Empire (1911–1912) > Kingdom of Prussia during the German Empire (1914–1918) ***** > Free State of Prussia (Germany, 1918–1933) ***** > United States (1940–1955) https://aeon.co/essays/einstein-on-the-practical-matters-of-being-german-and-jewish Einstein sketched out an array of identifications here, noting that they worked to make his own Germanness impossible. In 1922, while in Japan, Einstein was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics for the previous year, an event that proved an inconvenience for his non-German Swissness. Nobel Prizes needed to be received in person; if the laureate were not personally able, an ambassador would stand in. Naturally, the Swiss ambassador presented himself for the honour, given that Einstein was at that very moment travelling as a citizen of the canton of Zurich. So did Rudolf Nadolny, the German ambassador to Sweden. The Germans maintained that German citizenship attached to Einstein as a requirement of his Berlin post. Einstein had objected to this clause during negotiations in December 1913, and the Germans had not felt it necessary to contest the point later during the war. With the Nobel Prize, circumstances had changed, and Nadolny accepted the award on his behalf. Einstein at first protested his symbolic de-Swissification, but within a year relinquished his opposition to the state’s narrative, and settled in as a German citizen.
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| From | patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2023-08-07 10:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5641c1bf-e428-43ad-93ed-1a13e4179998n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #616992 |
On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 8:31:57 AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote: > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 12:24:17 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote: > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 6:15:03 AM UTC-3, J. J. Lodder wrote: > > > JanPB <fil...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 9:18:58?PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote: > > > [-] > > > > > Partners in crime: Ehrenfest and Lorentz were the bridge between > > > > > Einstein and Freundlich during WWI, as any connection between UK and > > > > > Germany was an act of treason. > > > > > > > > > > Here are partying, 4 years after the end of WWI, to celebrate the HOAX. > > > > > > > > > > Einstein, Ehrenfest, De Sitter; Eddington and Lorentz, 26 September > > > > > 1923, Leiden.jpg > > > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Einstein,_Ehrenfest,_De_Sitter;_ > > > > > Eddington_and_Lorentz,_26_September_1923,_Leiden.jpg > > > > > > > > Your posts are complete idiocies. > > > Indeed, and changing idiocies too. > > > Sometime ago RH had evil Einstein stealing relativity > > > from good Lorentz. > > > Now, perhaps because our nutcase has learned in the meantime > > > (from my postings perhaps) that Einstein and Lorentz were friends, > > > and that Lorentz had wanted to have Einstein as his succesor > > > on his chair in Leyden Lorentz has become a baddie too. > > > > > > BTW, I write this reply to correct another misunderstanding: > > > Einstein, having the Swiss nationality, travelled on a Swiss passport. > > > As a citizen of a neutral country he could have gone to Britain. > > > (by way of Holland) > > > He didn't want to, because he felt that it was his duty > > > to stay in Berlin with family and friends, > > > and suffer the hardships of food shortages and rationing with them, > > > > > > Jan > > https://www.timesofisrael.com/einstein-letter-written-the-day-he-renounced-german-citizenship-sold-at-auction/ > > > > A letter written by Albert Einstein on the day he renounced his German citizenship, after realizing he could not return due to the rise of the Nazis, has been sold at auction. > > > > The letter written on board the S.S. Belgenland and dated March 28, 1933, sold for $30,250 at the Nate D. Sanders Auction House in Los Angeles. Bidding for Thursday night’s auction started at $25,000. > > > > > > https://best-citizenships.com/2020/08/08/how-many-citizenships-albert-einstein-had/ > > > > Albert Einstein Citizenships > > > > Kingdom of Württemberg German Empire (1879–1896) ***** > > Stateless (1896–1901) > > Switzerland (1901–1955) > > Austria during the Austro-Hungarian Empire (1911–1912) > > Kingdom of Prussia during the German Empire (1914–1918) ***** > > Free State of Prussia (Germany, 1918–1933) ***** > > United States (1940–1955) > https://aeon.co/essays/einstein-on-the-practical-matters-of-being-german-and-jewish > > Einstein sketched out an array of identifications here, noting that they worked to make his own Germanness impossible. > > In 1922, while in Japan, Einstein was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics for the previous year, an event that proved an inconvenience > for his non-German Swissness. Nobel Prizes needed to be received in person; if the laureate were not personally able, an ambassador > would stand in. Naturally, the Swiss ambassador presented himself for the honour, given that Einstein was at that very moment travelling > as a citizen of the canton of Zurich. So did Rudolf Nadolny, the German ambassador to Sweden. > > The Germans maintained that German citizenship attached to Einstein as a requirement of his Berlin post. Einstein had objected to this > clause during negotiations in December 1913, and the Germans had not felt it necessary to contest the point later during the war. With > the Nobel Prize, circumstances had changed, and Nadolny accepted the award on his behalf. Einstein at first protested his symbolic > de-Swissification, but within a year relinquished his opposition to the state’s narrative, and settled in as a German citizen. Richard, thank you for the excellent scholarship into the dark side of early 20th century physics. Naturally, I am scandalized, as any right-thinking person would be.
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| From | Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-07 19:32 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <kjco4mF6r3kU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #616990 |
On 2023-08-07 15:24:14 +0000, Richard Hertz said: > > Albert Einstein Citizenships > > Kingdom of Württemberg German Empire (1879–1896) ***** > Stateless (1896–1901) > Switzerland (1901–1955) > Austria during the Austro-Hungarian Empire (1911–1912) Kingdom > of Prussia during the German Empire (1914–1918) ***** > Free State of Prussia (Germany, 1918–1933) ***** > United States (1940–1955) And your point is? "Richard Hertz" does not strike me as an obviously Argentinian name. I would guess that either you or a recent ancestor changed citizenship at some point. So what? -- athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots
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| From | whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-07 12:39 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <kjcohnF6lukU7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #617019 |
On 8/7/2023 12:32 PM, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > On 2023-08-07 15:24:14 +0000, Richard Hertz said: >> >> Albert Einstein Citizenships >> >> Kingdom of Württemberg German Empire (1879–1896) ***** >> Stateless (1896–1901) >> Switzerland (1901–1955) >> Austria during the Austro-Hungarian Empire (1911–1912) Kingdom >> of Prussia during the German Empire (1914–1918) ***** >> Free State of Prussia (Germany, 1918–1933) ***** >> United States (1940–1955) > > And your point is? > > "Richard Hertz" does not strike me as an obviously Argentinian name. I > would guess that either you or a recent ancestor changed citizenship at > some point. So what? Idiocy is a marriage eternal.
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| From | Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-07 16:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6485f8ac-a82e-4d58-a239-17389248cec0n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #617019 |
On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 12:32:10 PM UTC-5, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > On 2023-08-07 15:24:14 +0000, Richard Hertz said: > > > > Albert Einstein Citizenships > > > > Kingdom of Württemberg German Empire (1879–1896) ***** > > Stateless (1896–1901) > > Switzerland (1901–1955) > > Austria during the Austro-Hungarian Empire (1911–1912) Kingdom > > of Prussia during the German Empire (1914–1918) ***** > > Free State of Prussia (Germany, 1918–1933) ***** > > United States (1940–1955) > And your point is? > > "Richard Hertz" does not strike me as an obviously Argentinian name. I > would guess that either you or a recent ancestor changed citizenship at > some point. So what? Argentina has a fairly substantial population of citizens of German ancestry, which contributed to Argentina's decision to maintain neutrality during both the First and Second World Wars. And of course, after WWII, the Peron administration helped establish escape routes for many ex-SS officials, of whom Josef Mengele and Adolf Eichmann are perhaps the best-known.
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| From | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-07 18:41 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <3b26bdcd-baed-4df3-a684-24c605d8213en@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #617060 |
On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 8:58:09 PM UTC-3, Prokaryotic Capase Homolog wrote: > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 12:32:10 PM UTC-5, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > > On 2023-08-07 15:24:14 +0000, Richard Hertz said: > > > > > > Albert Einstein Citizenships > > > > > > Kingdom of Württemberg German Empire (1879–1896) ***** > > > Stateless (1896–1901) > > > Switzerland (1901–1955) > > > Austria during the Austro-Hungarian Empire (1911–1912) Kingdom > > > of Prussia during the German Empire (1914–1918) ***** > > > Free State of Prussia (Germany, 1918–1933) ***** > > > United States (1940–1955) > > And your point is? > > > > "Richard Hertz" does not strike me as an obviously Argentinian name. I > > would guess that either you or a recent ancestor changed citizenship at > > some point. So what? > Argentina has a fairly substantial population of citizens > of German ancestry, which contributed to Argentina's > decision to maintain neutrality during both the First and > Second World Wars. And of course, after WWII, the Peron > administration helped establish escape routes for many > ex-SS officials, of whom Josef Mengele and Adolf Eichmann > are perhaps the best-known. https://villageneralbelgrano.gob.ar/
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| From | patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2023-08-08 07:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2b51c1ec-3516-48b0-a1e3-e1aacf142ec9n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #617063 |
On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 6:41:30 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote: > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 8:58:09 PM UTC-3, Prokaryotic Capase Homolog wrote: > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 12:32:10 PM UTC-5, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > > > On 2023-08-07 15:24:14 +0000, Richard Hertz said: > > > > > > > > Albert Einstein Citizenships > > > > > > > > Kingdom of Württemberg German Empire (1879–1896) ***** > > > > Stateless (1896–1901) > > > > Switzerland (1901–1955) > > > > Austria during the Austro-Hungarian Empire (1911–1912) Kingdom > > > > of Prussia during the German Empire (1914–1918) ***** > > > > Free State of Prussia (Germany, 1918–1933) ***** > > > > United States (1940–1955) > > > And your point is? > > > > > > "Richard Hertz" does not strike me as an obviously Argentinian name. I > > > would guess that either you or a recent ancestor changed citizenship at > > > some point. So what? > > Argentina has a fairly substantial population of citizens > > of German ancestry, which contributed to Argentina's > > decision to maintain neutrality during both the First and > > Second World Wars. And of course, after WWII, the Peron > > administration helped establish escape routes for many > > ex-SS officials, of whom Josef Mengele and Adolf Eichmann > > are perhaps the best-known. > https://villageneralbelgrano.gob.ar/ Very enjoyable video. Though my name is as Irish as Paddy's pig, I am half German by genetics. The German/Irish mix is the most common miscegenation in the USA. And Americans of German ancestry make up the largest cultural plurality in the country.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-08 12:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <64D296ED.3ECA@ix.netcom.com> |
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patdolan wrote: > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 6:41:30 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote: > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 8:58:09 PM UTC-3, Prokaryotic Capase Homolog wrote: > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 12:32:10 PM UTC-5, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > > > > On 2023-08-07 15:24:14 +0000, Richard Hertz said: > > > > > > > > > > Albert Einstein Citizenships > > > > > > > > > > Kingdom of Württemberg German Empire (1879–1896) ***** > > > > > Stateless (1896–1901) > > > > > Switzerland (1901–1955) > > > > > Austria during the Austro-Hungarian Empire (1911–1912) Kingdom > > > > > of Prussia during the German Empire (1914–1918) ***** > > > > > Free State of Prussia (Germany, 1918–1933) ***** > > > > > United States (1940–1955) > > > > And your point is? > > > > > > > > "Richard Hertz" does not strike me as an obviously Argentinian name. I > > > > would guess that either you or a recent ancestor changed citizenship at > > > > some point. So what? > > > Argentina has a fairly substantial population of citizens > > > of German ancestry, which contributed to Argentina's > > > decision to maintain neutrality during both the First and > > > Second World Wars. And of course, after WWII, the Peron > > > administration helped establish escape routes for many > > > ex-SS officials, of whom Josef Mengele and Adolf Eichmann > > > are perhaps the best-known. > > https://villageneralbelgrano.gob.ar/ > Very enjoyable video. Though my name is as Irish as Paddy's pig, I am half German by genetics. The German/Irish mix is the most common miscegenation in the USA. And Americans of German ancestry make up the largest cultural plurality in the country. Do you like the TV show...Hogan's Heroes? Tom Hagen : I'm German-Irish. Jack Woltz : Well, let me tell you something, my kraut-mick friend, I'm gonna make so much trouble for you, you won t know what hit you! -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-08 21:49 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <64D31ADB.4725@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #617107 |
patdolan wrote: > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 6:41:30 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote: > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 8:58:09 PM UTC-3, Prokaryotic Capase Homolog wrote: > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 12:32:10 PM UTC-5, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > > > > On 2023-08-07 15:24:14 +0000, Richard Hertz said: > > > > > > > > > > Albert Einstein Citizenships > > > > > > > > > > Kingdom of Württemberg German Empire (1879–1896) ***** > > > > > Stateless (1896–1901) > > > > > Switzerland (1901–1955) > > > > > Austria during the Austro-Hungarian Empire (1911–1912) Kingdom > > > > > of Prussia during the German Empire (1914–1918) ***** > > > > > Free State of Prussia (Germany, 1918–1933) ***** > > > > > United States (1940–1955) > > > > And your point is? > > > > > > > > "Richard Hertz" does not strike me as an obviously Argentinian name. I > > > > would guess that either you or a recent ancestor changed citizenship at > > > > some point. So what? > > > Argentina has a fairly substantial population of citizens > > > of German ancestry, which contributed to Argentina's > > > decision to maintain neutrality during both the First and > > > Second World Wars. And of course, after WWII, the Peron > > > administration helped establish escape routes for many > > > ex-SS officials, of whom Josef Mengele and Adolf Eichmann > > > are perhaps the best-known. > > https://villageneralbelgrano.gob.ar/ > Very enjoyable video. Though my name is as Irish as Paddy's pig, I am half German by genetics. The German/Irish mix is the most common miscegenation in the USA. And Americans of German ancestry make up the largest cultural plurality in the country. I do notice patdolan that it appears that you have an "aggressive mentality". The style of your posts seems aggressive.. actung, actung -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-08 08:47 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <kje6onFdvdhU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #617060 |
On 2023-08-07 23:58:07 +0000, Prokaryotic Capase Homolog said: > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 12:32:10 PM UTC-5, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: >> On 2023-08-07 15:24:14 +0000, Richard Hertz said:> >> > Albert Einstein >> Citizenships> >> > Kingdom of Württemberg German Empire (1879–1896) >> *****> > Stateless (1896–1901)> > Switzerland (1901–1955)> > Austria >> during the Austro-Hungarian Empire (1911–1912) Kingdom> > of Prussia >> during the German Empire (1914–1918) *****> > Free State of Prussia >> (Germany, 1918–1933) *****> > United States (1940–1955) >> And your point is?>> "Richard Hertz" does not strike me as an obviously >> Argentinian name. I> would guess that either you or a recent ancestor >> changed citizenship at> some point. So what? > Argentina has a fairly substantial population of citizens > of German ancestry, which contributed to Argentina's > decision to maintain neutrality during both the First and > Second World Wars. And of course, after WWII, the Peron > administration helped establish escape routes for manyex-SS officials, > of whom Josef Mengele and Adolf Eichmann > are perhaps the best-known. Yes, I know all that, but it doesn't affect my point. -- athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2023-08-16 07:47 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <kk364jFqk1uU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #617060 |
Am 08.08.2023 um 01:58 schrieb Prokaryotic Capase Homolog:
>> "Richard Hertz" does not strike me as an obviously Argentinian name. I
>> would guess that either you or a recent ancestor changed citizenship at
>> some point. So what?
>
> Argentina has a fairly substantial population of citizens
> of German ancestry, which contributed to Argentina's
> decision to maintain neutrality during both the First and
> Second World Wars. And of course, after WWII, the Peron
> administration helped establish escape routes for many
> ex-SS officials, of whom Josef Mengele and Adolf Eichmann
> are perhaps the best-known.
>
Argentina was also the 'playground' of the British lower aristocracy
('gentry').
TH
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