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'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.'

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2023-07-20 10:15 -0700
Last post2023-07-21 21:23 -0700
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  'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-20 10:15 -0700
    Re: 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-07-20 12:14 -0700
      Re: 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-07-20 15:39 -0700
    Re: 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-07-22 08:44 +1000
      Re: 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-21 19:10 -0400
        Re: 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-07-22 09:17 +1000
        Re: 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-22 11:20 -0700
          Re: 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-23 10:24 -0700
      Re: 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-21 20:39 -0700
        Re: 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-21 21:06 -0700
          Re: 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-21 23:53 -0500
            Re: 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-21 22:58 -0700
        Re: 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-21 21:23 -0700

#615765 — 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.'

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-07-20 10:15 -0700
Subject'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.'
Message-ID<64B96B99.5660@ix.netcom.com>
News • University
Stanford president resigns over manipulated research, will retract at least three papers
Marc Tessier-Lavigne failed to address manipulated papers, fostered unhealthy lab dynamic, Stanford report says
https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/

investigation found “manipulation of research data.”

"The report concluded that the fudging of results under Tessier-Lavigne’s purview “spanned labs at three separate institutions.” 
It identified a culture where Tessier-Lavigne “tended to reward the ‘winners’ (that is, postdocs who could generate favorable results) and 
marginalize or diminish the ‘losers’ (that is, postdocs who were unable or struggled to generate such data).”

"For several papers worthy of retraction to have been principally authored by the same scientist represents “unusual frequency of 
manipulation of research data and/or substandard scientific practices,” "    (pattern of racketteering)

""In the report, the scientific panel raised questions about allegations of fraud in a major 2009 Alzheimer’s study that claimed to 
have found the cause of neurodegeneration in Alzheimer’s patients and was publicly called “the most important discovery in Alzheimer’s in
 the last 20 years, maybe ever” by former Genentech executive Richard Scheller.""   (follow the money)

"...contain doctored imagery..."

https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/


https://boardoftrustees.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/07/Scientific-Panel-Final-Report.pdf




'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#615776

FromRichard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-20 12:14 -0700
Message-ID<3f248e4f-755a-462b-9948-c055ac1786can@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#615765
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:14:42 PM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> News • University 
> Stanford president resigns over manipulated research, will retract at least three papers 
> Marc Tessier-Lavigne failed to address manipulated papers, fostered unhealthy lab dynamic, Stanford report says 
> https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/ 
> 
> investigation found “manipulation of research data.” 
> 
> "The report concluded that the fudging of results under Tessier-Lavigne’s purview “spanned labs at three separate institutions.” 
> It identified a culture where Tessier-Lavigne “tended to reward the ‘winners’ (that is, postdocs who could generate favorable results) and 
> marginalize or diminish the ‘losers’ (that is, postdocs who were unable or struggled to generate such data).” 
> 
> "For several papers worthy of retraction to have been principally authored by the same scientist represents “unusual frequency of 
> manipulation of research data and/or substandard scientific practices,” " (pattern of racketteering) 
> 
> ""In the report, the scientific panel raised questions about allegations of fraud in a major 2009 Alzheimer’s study that claimed to 
> have found the cause of neurodegeneration in Alzheimer’s patients and was publicly called “the most important discovery in Alzheimer’s in 
> the last 20 years, maybe ever” by former Genentech executive Richard Scheller."" (follow the money) 
> 
> "...contain doctored imagery..." 
> 
> https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/ 
> 
> 
> https://boardoftrustees.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/07/Scientific-Panel-Final-Report.pdf 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein 
> 
> -- 
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, 
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge 
> the unchallengeable.

Three papers?  Try 30,000 papers in a century, to the least. And this is just for Stanford.

Any paper on relativity, either theoretical, presenting data from "experiments" or a mix of both, is COOKED, with data
cherry-picking, trimming, fudging or just have fraudulent data or theory.

And this has been since 1915.

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#615791

From"mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-20 15:39 -0700
Message-ID<a723375b-0b5a-4b44-ae8e-fdfd7e305993n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#615776
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 12:15:02 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:14:42 PM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote: 
> > News • University 
> > Stanford president resigns over manipulated research, will retract at least three papers 
> > Marc Tessier-Lavigne failed to address manipulated papers, fostered unhealthy lab dynamic, Stanford report says 
> > https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/ 
> > 
> > investigation found “manipulation of research data.” 
> > 
> > "The report concluded that the fudging of results under Tessier-Lavigne’s purview “spanned labs at three separate institutions.” 
> > It identified a culture where Tessier-Lavigne “tended to reward the ‘winners’ (that is, postdocs who could generate favorable results) and 
> > marginalize or diminish the ‘losers’ (that is, postdocs who were unable or struggled to generate such data).” 
> > 
> > "For several papers worthy of retraction to have been principally authored by the same scientist represents “unusual frequency of 
> > manipulation of research data and/or substandard scientific practices,” " (pattern of racketteering) 
> > 
> > ""In the report, the scientific panel raised questions about allegations of fraud in a major 2009 Alzheimer’s study that claimed to 
> > have found the cause of neurodegeneration in Alzheimer’s patients and was publicly called “the most important discovery in Alzheimer’s in 
> > the last 20 years, maybe ever” by former Genentech executive Richard Scheller."" (follow the money) 
> > 
> > "...contain doctored imagery..." 
> > 
> > https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/ 
> > 
> > 
> > https://boardoftrustees.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/07/Scientific-Panel-Final-Report.pdf 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein 
> > 
> > -- 
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, 
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge 
> > the unchallengeable.
> Three papers? Try 30,000 papers in a century, to the least. And this is just for Stanford. 
> 
> Any paper on relativity, either theoretical, presenting data from "experiments" or a mix of both, is COOKED, with data 
> cherry-picking, trimming, fudging or just have fraudulent data or theory. 
> 
> And this has been since 1915.

Einstein predicted science would fail. He said it on his last day.
Science world did not like what he did.

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#615866

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
Date2023-07-22 08:44 +1000
Message-ID<ki0g24Fu72rU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#615765
On 21-July-23 3:15 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> News • University
> Stanford president resigns over manipulated research, will retract at least three papers
> Marc Tessier-Lavigne failed to address manipulated papers, fostered unhealthy lab dynamic, Stanford report says
> https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/
> 
> investigation found “manipulation of research data.”
> 
> "The report concluded that the fudging of results under Tessier-Lavigne’s purview “spanned labs at three separate institutions.”
> It identified a culture where Tessier-Lavigne “tended to reward the ‘winners’ (that is, postdocs who could generate favorable results) and
> marginalize or diminish the ‘losers’ (that is, postdocs who were unable or struggled to generate such data).”
> 
> "For several papers worthy of retraction to have been principally authored by the same scientist represents “unusual frequency of
> manipulation of research data and/or substandard scientific practices,” "    (pattern of racketteering)
> 
> ""In the report, the scientific panel raised questions about allegations of fraud in a major 2009 Alzheimer’s study that claimed to
> have found the cause of neurodegeneration in Alzheimer’s patients and was publicly called “the most important discovery in Alzheimer’s in
>   the last 20 years, maybe ever” by former Genentech executive Richard Scheller.""   (follow the money)
> 
> "...contain doctored imagery..."
> 
> https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/
> 
> 
> https://boardoftrustees.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/07/Scientific-Panel-Final-Report.pdf
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein
> 

He never said that.

Sylvia.

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#615867

FromVolney <volney@invalid.invalid>
Date2023-07-21 19:10 -0400
Message-ID<u9f3a4$3fppn$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#615866
On 7/21/2023 6:44 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 21-July-23 3:15 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>> News • University
>> Stanford president resigns over manipulated research, will retract at 
>> least three papers
>> Marc Tessier-Lavigne failed to address manipulated papers, fostered 
>> unhealthy lab dynamic, Stanford report says
>> https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/
>>
>> investigation found “manipulation of research data.”
>>
>> "The report concluded that the fudging of results under 
>> Tessier-Lavigne’s purview “spanned labs at three separate institutions.”
>> It identified a culture where Tessier-Lavigne “tended to reward the 
>> ‘winners’ (that is, postdocs who could generate favorable results) and
>> marginalize or diminish the ‘losers’ (that is, postdocs who were 
>> unable or struggled to generate such data).”
>>
>> "For several papers worthy of retraction to have been principally 
>> authored by the same scientist represents “unusual frequency of
>> manipulation of research data and/or substandard scientific 
>> practices,” "    (pattern of racketteering)
>>
>> ""In the report, the scientific panel raised questions about 
>> allegations of fraud in a major 2009 Alzheimer’s study that claimed to
>> have found the cause of neurodegeneration in Alzheimer’s patients and 
>> was publicly called “the most important discovery in Alzheimer’s in
>>   the last 20 years, maybe ever” by former Genentech executive Richard 
>> Scheller.""   (follow the money)
>>
>> "...contain doctored imagery..."
>>
>> https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/
>>
>>
>> https://boardoftrustees.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/07/Scientific-Panel-Final-Report.pdf
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein
>>
> 
> He never said that.

The facts didn't fit Starfarter's theory so he changed the facts.

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#615868

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
Date2023-07-22 09:17 +1000
Message-ID<ki0hvcFu72rU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#615867
On 22-July-23 9:10 am, Volney wrote:
> On 7/21/2023 6:44 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 21-July-23 3:15 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> News • University
>>> Stanford president resigns over manipulated research, will retract at 
>>> least three papers
>>> Marc Tessier-Lavigne failed to address manipulated papers, fostered 
>>> unhealthy lab dynamic, Stanford report says
>>> https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/
>>>
>>> investigation found “manipulation of research data.”
>>>
>>> "The report concluded that the fudging of results under 
>>> Tessier-Lavigne’s purview “spanned labs at three separate institutions.”
>>> It identified a culture where Tessier-Lavigne “tended to reward the 
>>> ‘winners’ (that is, postdocs who could generate favorable results) and
>>> marginalize or diminish the ‘losers’ (that is, postdocs who were 
>>> unable or struggled to generate such data).”
>>>
>>> "For several papers worthy of retraction to have been principally 
>>> authored by the same scientist represents “unusual frequency of
>>> manipulation of research data and/or substandard scientific 
>>> practices,” "    (pattern of racketteering)
>>>
>>> ""In the report, the scientific panel raised questions about 
>>> allegations of fraud in a major 2009 Alzheimer’s study that claimed to
>>> have found the cause of neurodegeneration in Alzheimer’s patients and 
>>> was publicly called “the most important discovery in Alzheimer’s in
>>>   the last 20 years, maybe ever” by former Genentech executive 
>>> Richard Scheller.""   (follow the money)
>>>
>>> "...contain doctored imagery..."
>>>
>>> https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/
>>>
>>>
>>> https://boardoftrustees.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/07/Scientific-Panel-Final-Report.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein
>>>
>>
>> He never said that.
> 
> The facts didn't fit Starfarter's theory so he changed the facts.
> 

:)

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#615894

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-07-22 11:20 -0700
Message-ID<64BC1DF7.5674@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#615867
Volney wrote:
> 
> On 7/21/2023 6:44 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > On 21-July-23 3:15 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> News • University
> >> Stanford president resigns over manipulated research, will retract at
> >> least three papers
> >> Marc Tessier-Lavigne failed to address manipulated papers, fostered
> >> unhealthy lab dynamic, Stanford report says
> >> https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/
> >>
> >> investigation found “manipulation of research data.”
> >>
> >> "The report concluded that the fudging of results under
> >> Tessier-Lavigne’s purview “spanned labs at three separate institutions.”
> >> It identified a culture where Tessier-Lavigne “tended to reward the
> >> ‘winners’ (that is, postdocs who could generate favorable results) and
> >> marginalize or diminish the ‘losers’ (that is, postdocs who were
> >> unable or struggled to generate such data).”
> >>
> >> "For several papers worthy of retraction to have been principally
> >> authored by the same scientist represents “unusual frequency of
> >> manipulation of research data and/or substandard scientific
> >> practices,” "    (pattern of racketteering)
> >>
> >> ""In the report, the scientific panel raised questions about
> >> allegations of fraud in a major 2009 Alzheimer’s study that claimed to
> >> have found the cause of neurodegeneration in Alzheimer’s patients and
> >> was publicly called “the most important discovery in Alzheimer’s in
> >>   the last 20 years, maybe ever” by former Genentech executive Richard
> >> Scheller.""Â Â  (follow the money)
> >>
> >> "...contain doctored imagery..."
> >>
> >> https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/
> >>
> >>
> >> https://boardoftrustees.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/07/Scientific-Panel-Final-Report.pdf
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein
> >>
> >
> > He never said that.
> 
> The facts didn't fit Starfarter's theory so he changed the facts.


I didn't change the facts.

Fact number one: This link points to a book that reads:
The Ultimate Quotable Einstein
By Albert Einstein

https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=editions:tNFoVCjXVqkC&hl

Fact number two: copyright by The Hebrew University of Jerusalem and Princeton University.

Fact number three: The quote is in the book! see page 483

https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA483&dq=%27#v=onepage&q&f=false


Now, let's go back to 

Fact #1: The Ultimate Quotable Einstein By Albert Einstein

Doesn't the words ( By Albert Einstein) mean Albert Einstein is the author of the book entittled:
The Ultimate Quotable Einstein By Albert Einstein?

Fact #2 The Hebrew University of Jerusalem and Princeton University certaintly should know better than anyone else.


Fact #3 IT'S IN THE FUCKING BOOK!!!!


https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA483&dq=%27#v=onepage&q&f=false



ALBERT EINSTEIN IS THE FUCKING AUTHOR!!!

https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA483&dq=%27#v=onepage&q&f=false





Where did you people go to skool, Stanford University????



Fudging University!


'If the fudging don't fit the fudge, fudge the fudging.' 

 




-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#615919

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-07-23 10:24 -0700
Message-ID<64BD6258.3C37@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#615894
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Volney wrote:
> >
> > On 7/21/2023 6:44 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > > On 21-July-23 3:15 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >> News • University
> > >> Stanford president resigns over manipulated research, will retract at
> > >> least three papers
> > >> Marc Tessier-Lavigne failed to address manipulated papers, fostered
> > >> unhealthy lab dynamic, Stanford report says
> > >> https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/
> > >>
> > >> investigation found “manipulation of research data.”
> > >>
> > >> "The report concluded that the fudging of results under
> > >> Tessier-Lavigne’s purview “spanned labs at three separate institutions.”
> > >> It identified a culture where Tessier-Lavigne “tended to reward the
> > >> ‘winners’ (that is, postdocs who could generate favorable results) and
> > >> marginalize or diminish the ‘losers’ (that is, postdocs who were
> > >> unable or struggled to generate such data).”
> > >>
> > >> "For several papers worthy of retraction to have been principally
> > >> authored by the same scientist represents “unusual frequency of
> > >> manipulation of research data and/or substandard scientific
> > >> practices,” "    (pattern of racketteering)
> > >>
> > >> ""In the report, the scientific panel raised questions about
> > >> allegations of fraud in a major 2009 Alzheimer’s study that claimed to
> > >> have found the cause of neurodegeneration in Alzheimer’s patients and
> > >> was publicly called “the most important discovery in Alzheimer’s in
> > >>   the last 20 years, maybe ever” by former Genentech executive Richard
> > >> Scheller.""Â Â  (follow the money)
> > >>
> > >> "...contain doctored imagery..."
> > >>
> > >> https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> https://boardoftrustees.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/07/Scientific-Panel-Final-Report.pdf
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein
> > >>
> > >
> > > He never said that.
> >
> > The facts didn't fit Starfarter's theory so he changed the facts.
> 
> I didn't change the facts.
> 
> Fact number one: This link points to a book that reads:
> The Ultimate Quotable Einstein
> By Albert Einstein
> 
> https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=editions:tNFoVCjXVqkC&hl
> 
> Fact number two: copyright by The Hebrew University of Jerusalem and Princeton University.
> 
> Fact number three: The quote is in the book! see page 483
> 
> https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA483&dq=%27#v=onepage&q&f=false
> 
> Now, let's go back to
> 
> Fact #1: The Ultimate Quotable Einstein By Albert Einstein
> 
> Doesn't the words ( By Albert Einstein) mean Albert Einstein is the author of the book entittled:
> The Ultimate Quotable Einstein By Albert Einstein?
> 
> Fact #2 The Hebrew University of Jerusalem and Princeton University certaintly should know better than anyone else.
> 
> Fact #3 IT'S IN THE FUCKING BOOK!!!!
> 
> https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA483&dq=%27#v=onepage&q&f=false
> 
> ALBERT EINSTEIN IS THE FUCKING AUTHOR!!!
> 
> https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA483&dq=%27#v=onepage&q&f=false
> 
> Where did you people go to skool, Stanford University????
> 
> Fudging University!
> 
> 'If the fudging don't fit the fudge, fudge the fudging.'
> 


People of the 'scientific community' like Sylvia Else and Volney are just parrots that repeat misinformation.

People in the 'scientific community' are not even interested in the ...facts.

Just as a Parrot is not interested in what it repeats...it's just making noise.


Now, if The Hebrew University of Jerusalem and Princeton University is publishing misinformation, I would like to hear about that.


But look at the people who publish these books...Fudging Universities and Gangster Religions.





-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#615872

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-07-21 20:39 -0700
Message-ID<64BB4F6D.4C98@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#615866
Sylvia Else wrote:
> 
> On 21-July-23 3:15 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> > News • University
> > Stanford president resigns over manipulated research, will retract at least three papers
> > Marc Tessier-Lavigne failed to address manipulated papers, fostered unhealthy lab dynamic, Stanford report says
> > https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/
> >
> > investigation found “manipulation of research data.”
> >
> > "The report concluded that the fudging of results under Tessier-Lavigne’s purview “spanned labs at three separate institutions.”
> > It identified a culture where Tessier-Lavigne “tended to reward the ‘winners’ (that is, postdocs who could generate favorable results) and
> > marginalize or diminish the ‘losers’ (that is, postdocs who were unable or struggled to generate such data).”
> >
> > "For several papers worthy of retraction to have been principally authored by the same scientist represents “unusual frequency of
> > manipulation of research data and/or substandard scientific practices,” "    (pattern of racketteering)
> >
> > ""In the report, the scientific panel raised questions about allegations of fraud in a major 2009 Alzheimer’s study that claimed to
> > have found the cause of neurodegeneration in Alzheimer’s patients and was publicly called “the most important discovery in Alzheimer’s in
> >   the last 20 years, maybe ever” by former Genentech executive Richard Scheller.""   (follow the money)
> >
> > "...contain doctored imagery..."
> >
> > https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/
> >
> >
> > https://boardoftrustees.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/07/Scientific-Panel-Final-Report.pdf
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein
> >
> 
> He never said that.
> 
> Sylvia.


Are you saying it is not characteristic of Albert Einstein to say: 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.'

or do you attributed it to someone else? Who then if not Albert Einsten????



The name "Sylvia Else" sounds like it contain a doctored imagery...Does "Else' mean someone Else? Or are you a Usenet Trans...from guy to girl?? or something else...


Stanford's president Marc Tessier-Lavigne  is still a FRAUD. A crook.


The fact is...The Hebrew University of Jerusalem associated that quote to Albert Einstein. Are they wrong? (and they published it in a book associating that exact quote to Albert Einstein:


'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.'














-- 
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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#615873

FromPaul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-21 21:06 -0700
Message-ID<55c27638-840e-4c15-a9ce-42c249743391n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#615872
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 8:38:54 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> Sylvia Else wrote: 
> > 
> > On 21-July-23 3:15 am, The Starmaker wrote: 
> > > News • University 
> > > Stanford president resigns over manipulated research, will retract at least three papers 
> > > Marc Tessier-Lavigne failed to address manipulated papers, fostered unhealthy lab dynamic, Stanford report says 
> > > https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/ 
> > > 
> > > investigation found “manipulation of research data.” 
> > > 
> > > "The report concluded that the fudging of results under Tessier-Lavigne’s purview “spanned labs at three separate institutions.” 
> > > It identified a culture where Tessier-Lavigne “tended to reward the ‘winners’ (that is, postdocs who could generate favorable results) and 
> > > marginalize or diminish the ‘losers’ (that is, postdocs who were unable or struggled to generate such data).” 
> > > 
> > > "For several papers worthy of retraction to have been principally authored by the same scientist represents “unusual frequency of 
> > > manipulation of research data and/or substandard scientific practices,” " (pattern of racketteering) 
> > > 
> > > ""In the report, the scientific panel raised questions about allegations of fraud in a major 2009 Alzheimer’s study that claimed to 
> > > have found the cause of neurodegeneration in Alzheimer’s patients and was publicly called “the most important discovery in Alzheimer’s in 
> > > the last 20 years, maybe ever” by former Genentech executive Richard Scheller."" (follow the money) 
> > > 
> > > "...contain doctored imagery..." 
> > > 
> > > https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/ 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > https://boardoftrustees.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/07/Scientific-Panel-Final-Report.pdf 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein 
> > > 
> > 
> > He never said that. 
> > 
> > Sylvia.
> Are you saying it is not characteristic of Albert Einstein to say: 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' 
> 
> or do you attributed it to someone else? Who then if not Albert Einsten???? 
> 
> 
> 
> The name "Sylvia Else" sounds like it contain a doctored imagery...Does "Else' mean someone Else? Or are you a Usenet Trans...from guy to girl?? or something else... 

You do know that you come across as a perverted freak, right?

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#615875

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-07-21 23:53 -0500
Message-ID<ki15mmF2sivU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#615873
On 7/21/2023 11:06 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 8:38:54 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>
>>> On 21-July-23 3:15 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> News • University
>>>> Stanford president resigns over manipulated research, will retract at least three papers
>>>> Marc Tessier-Lavigne failed to address manipulated papers, fostered unhealthy lab dynamic, Stanford report says
>>>> https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/
>>>>
>>>> investigation found “manipulation of research data.”
>>>>
>>>> "The report concluded that the fudging of results under Tessier-Lavigne’s purview “spanned labs at three separate institutions.”
>>>> It identified a culture where Tessier-Lavigne “tended to reward the ‘winners’ (that is, postdocs who could generate favorable results) and
>>>> marginalize or diminish the ‘losers’ (that is, postdocs who were unable or struggled to generate such data).”
>>>>
>>>> "For several papers worthy of retraction to have been principally authored by the same scientist represents “unusual frequency of
>>>> manipulation of research data and/or substandard scientific practices,” " (pattern of racketteering)
>>>>
>>>> ""In the report, the scientific panel raised questions about allegations of fraud in a major 2009 Alzheimer’s study that claimed to
>>>> have found the cause of neurodegeneration in Alzheimer’s patients and was publicly called “the most important discovery in Alzheimer’s in
>>>> the last 20 years, maybe ever” by former Genentech executive Richard Scheller."" (follow the money)
>>>>
>>>> "...contain doctored imagery..."
>>>>
>>>> https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://boardoftrustees.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/07/Scientific-Panel-Final-Report.pdf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein
>>>>
>>>
>>> He never said that.
>>>
>>> Sylvia.
>> Are you saying it is not characteristic of Albert Einstein to say: 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.'
>>
>> or do you attributed it to someone else? Who then if not Albert Einsten????
>>
>>
>>
>> The name "Sylvia Else" sounds like it contain a doctored imagery...Does "Else' mean someone Else? Or are you a Usenet Trans...from guy to girl?? or something else...
> 
> You do know that you come across as a perverted freak, right?

He hopes to be an Uncle Al replacement. Doesn't have what that takes
though.

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#615879

FromPaul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-21 22:58 -0700
Message-ID<4ac3e944-821c-428c-bee6-abc9c2f03bfdn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#615875
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 9:53:47 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
> On 7/21/2023 11:06 PM, Paul Alsing wrote: 
> > On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 8:38:54 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: 
> >> Sylvia Else wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> On 21-July-23 3:15 am, The Starmaker wrote: 
> >>>> News • University 
> >>>> Stanford president resigns over manipulated research, will retract at least three papers 
> >>>> Marc Tessier-Lavigne failed to address manipulated papers, fostered unhealthy lab dynamic, Stanford report says 
> >>>> https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/ 
> >>>> 
> >>>> investigation found “manipulation of research data.” 
> >>>> 
> >>>> "The report concluded that the fudging of results under Tessier-Lavigne’s purview “spanned labs at three separate institutions.” 
> >>>> It identified a culture where Tessier-Lavigne “tended to reward the ‘winners’ (that is, postdocs who could generate favorable results) and 
> >>>> marginalize or diminish the ‘losers’ (that is, postdocs who were unable or struggled to generate such data).” 
> >>>> 
> >>>> "For several papers worthy of retraction to have been principally authored by the same scientist represents “unusual frequency of 
> >>>> manipulation of research data and/or substandard scientific practices,” " (pattern of racketteering) 
> >>>> 
> >>>> ""In the report, the scientific panel raised questions about allegations of fraud in a major 2009 Alzheimer’s study that claimed to 
> >>>> have found the cause of neurodegeneration in Alzheimer’s patients and was publicly called “the most important discovery in Alzheimer’s in 
> >>>> the last 20 years, maybe ever” by former Genentech executive Richard Scheller."" (follow the money) 
> >>>> 
> >>>> "...contain doctored imagery..." 
> >>>> 
> >>>> https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/ 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> https://boardoftrustees.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/07/Scientific-Panel-Final-Report.pdf 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>> He never said that. 
> >>> 
> >>> Sylvia. 
> >> Are you saying it is not characteristic of Albert Einstein to say: 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' 
> >> 
> >> or do you attributed it to someone else? Who then if not Albert Einsten???? 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> The name "Sylvia Else" sounds like it contain a doctored imagery...Does "Else' mean someone Else? Or are you a Usenet Trans...from guy to girl?? or something else... 
> > 
> > You do know that you come across as a perverted freak, right?

> He hopes to be an Uncle Al replacement. Doesn't have what that takes 
> though.

... and never will...

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#615874

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-07-21 21:23 -0700
Message-ID<64BB59AD.726@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#615872
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Sylvia Else wrote:
> >
> > On 21-July-23 3:15 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > News • University
> > > Stanford president resigns over manipulated research, will retract at least three papers
> > > Marc Tessier-Lavigne failed to address manipulated papers, fostered unhealthy lab dynamic, Stanford report says
> > > https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/
> > >
> > > investigation found “manipulation of research data.”
> > >
> > > "The report concluded that the fudging of results under Tessier-Lavigne’s purview “spanned labs at three separate institutions.”
> > > It identified a culture where Tessier-Lavigne “tended to reward the ‘winners’ (that is, postdocs who could generate favorable results) and
> > > marginalize or diminish the ‘losers’ (that is, postdocs who were unable or struggled to generate such data).”
> > >
> > > "For several papers worthy of retraction to have been principally authored by the same scientist represents “unusual frequency of
> > > manipulation of research data and/or substandard scientific practices,” "    (pattern of racketteering)
> > >
> > > ""In the report, the scientific panel raised questions about allegations of fraud in a major 2009 Alzheimer’s study that claimed to
> > > have found the cause of neurodegeneration in Alzheimer’s patients and was publicly called “the most important discovery in Alzheimer’s in
> > >   the last 20 years, maybe ever” by former Genentech executive Richard Scheller.""   (follow the money)
> > >
> > > "...contain doctored imagery..."
> > >
> > > https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/
> > >
> > >
> > > https://boardoftrustees.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/07/Scientific-Panel-Final-Report.pdf
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein
> > >
> >
> > He never said that.
> >
> > Sylvia.
> 
> Are you saying it is not characteristic of Albert Einstein to say: 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.'
> 
> or do you attributed it to someone else? Who then if not Albert Einsten????
> 
> The name "Sylvia Else" sounds like it contain a doctored imagery...Does "Else' mean someone Else? Or are you a Usenet Trans...from guy to girl?? or something else...
> 
> Stanford's president Marc Tessier-Lavigne  is still a FRAUD. A crook.
> 
> The fact is...The Hebrew University of Jerusalem associated that quote to Albert Einstein. Are they wrong? (and they published it in a book associating that exact quote to Albert Einstein:
> 
> 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.'


Now, since this is being posted also to a politics newsgroup, I'll add a little politics...

Nancy Pelosi has a daughter who wrote a book called: Campaign Boot Camp 2.0: Basic Training for Candidates, by Christine Pelosi

where she uses Albert Einstein's quote to...How To brainwash the voters.






-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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