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estimate of the age of the universe

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2018-12-01 11:21 -0800
Last post2018-12-01 13:45 -0800
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  estimate of the age of the universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-12-01 11:21 -0800
    Re: estimate of the age of the universe mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-01 11:29 -0800
      Re: estimate of the age of the universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-12-01 12:04 -0800
        Re: estimate of the age of the universe mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-01 13:43 -0800
          Re: estimate of the age of the universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-12-01 14:52 -0800
            Re: estimate of the age of the universe mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-01 21:03 -0800
              Re: estimate of the age of the universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-12-01 21:25 -0800
                Re: estimate of the age of the universe mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-02 11:56 -0800
                  Re: estimate of the age of the universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-12-02 15:55 -0800
                    Re: estimate of the age of the universe "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-12-02 19:29 -0800
                    Re: estimate of the age of the universe mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-02 19:39 -0800
      Re: estimate of the age of the universe Mole Santiago <msb@awwnuvs.an> - 2018-12-01 20:14 +0000
        Re: estimate of the age of the universe mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-01 13:45 -0800

#478705 — estimate of the age of the universe

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-12-01 11:21 -0800
Subjectestimate of the age of the universe
Message-ID<5C02DF4B.43F8@ix.netcom.com>
I just realized that
how 'they' measure the
age of the universe is
done incorrectly.

1) by looking for the oldest star


I don't see how they can look for the
oldest star since stars existed trillions
of years before the big bang.

2) and back to the big bang


measuring stars from a
big bang is not how you measure
the universe since stars existed Before
the big bang.



I mean like WOW, you people got everything wrong, haven't you?

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#478707

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-12-01 11:29 -0800
Message-ID<fe19b99b-aa58-420a-8909-8c1f388d0143@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#478705
The light year age requires its expansion at the speed of light.
If it is expanding below light speed the universe is much older.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#478710

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-12-01 12:04 -0800
Message-ID<5C02E956.3E44@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#478707
mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> The light year age requires its expansion at the speed of light.
> If it is expanding below light speed the universe is much older.
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch



and if it is expanding above the speed of light, is it younger or older?

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#478723

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-12-01 13:43 -0800
Message-ID<33df09fd-9146-4873-aed6-2a3483e8f03a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#478710
On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 12:04:29 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> > 
> > The light year age requires its expansion at the speed of light.
> > If it is expanding below light speed the universe is much older.
> > 
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> 
> 
> 
> and if it is expanding above the speed of light, is it younger or older?

I don't believe it is.
What is your point?

Mitchell Raemsch

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#478733

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-12-01 14:52 -0800
Message-ID<5C0310A1.7339@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#478723
mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 12:04:29 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > The light year age requires its expansion at the speed of light.
> > > If it is expanding below light speed the universe is much older.
> > >
> > > Mitchell Raemsch
> >
> >
> >
> > and if it is expanding above the speed of light, is it younger or older?
> 
> I don't believe it is.
> What is your point?
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch


but, but you wrote "If it is expanding below light speed"

I'm asking "if it is expanding above the speed of light, is it younger
or older?"


the operative words is "if it is"...that doesn't sound like 'you believe
it is or not'.


You wrote..."if".

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#478740

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-12-01 21:03 -0800
Message-ID<1f4f228f-956e-45d4-a798-da74041e8305@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#478733
On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 2:50:52 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> > 
> > On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 12:04:29 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The light year age requires its expansion at the speed of light.
> > > > If it is expanding below light speed the universe is much older.
> > > >
> > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > and if it is expanding above the speed of light, is it younger or older?
> > 
> > I don't believe it is.
> > What is your point?
> > 
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> 
> 
> but, but you wrote "If it is expanding below light speed"
> 
> I'm asking "if it is expanding above the speed of light, is it younger
> or older?"

That is your idea... can't you use your own mind to find the answer for your own belief?

> 
> 
> the operative words is "if it is"...that doesn't sound like 'you believe
> it is or not'.
> 
> 
> You wrote..."if".

Roy Masters. It doesn't matter what I say... Right?

Mitchell Raemsch

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#478743

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-12-01 21:25 -0800
Message-ID<5C036CAD.229F@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#478740
mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 2:50:52 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 12:04:29 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The light year age requires its expansion at the speed of light.
> > > > > If it is expanding below light speed the universe is much older.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > and if it is expanding above the speed of light, is it younger or older?
> > >
> > > I don't believe it is.
> > > What is your point?
> > >
> > > Mitchell Raemsch
> >
> >
> > but, but you wrote "If it is expanding below light speed"
> >
> > I'm asking "if it is expanding above the speed of light, is it younger
> > or older?"
> 
> That is your idea... can't you use your own mind to find the answer for your own belief?
> 
> >
> >
> > the operative words is "if it is"...that doesn't sound like 'you believe
> > it is or not'.
> >
> >
> > You wrote..."if".
> 
> Roy Masters. It doesn't matter what I say... Right?
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch


if you tell a lie to the fbi...it matters.


This is Usenet. That means you need to provide true, accurate and correct information.


I'm just correcting your inaccurate, incorrect and false information.


I'm just a tool of Usenet...

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#478792

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-12-02 11:56 -0800
Message-ID<c924807e-504a-40ac-b324-671aefa1bf8a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#478743
On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 9:23:32 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> > 
> > On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 2:50:52 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 12:04:29 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The light year age requires its expansion at the speed of light.
> > > > > > If it is expanding below light speed the universe is much older.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > and if it is expanding above the speed of light, is it younger or older?
> > > >
> > > > I don't believe it is.
> > > > What is your point?
> > > >
> > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > >
> > >
> > > but, but you wrote "If it is expanding below light speed"
> > >
> > > I'm asking "if it is expanding above the speed of light, is it younger
> > > or older?"
> > 

That is your idea... can't you use your own mind to find the answer for your own belief?

> > 
> > >
> > >
> > > the operative words is "if it is"...that doesn't sound like 'you believe
> > > it is or not'.
> > >
> > >
> > > You wrote..."if".
> > 
> > Roy Masters. It doesn't matter what I say... Right?
> > 
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> 
> 
> if you tell a lie to the fbi...it matters.
> 
> 
> This is Usenet. That means you need to provide true, accurate and correct information.
> 
> 
> I'm just correcting your inaccurate, incorrect and false information.
> 
> 
> I'm just a tool of Usenet...

Answer for your own idea don't expect me Roy Masters...
If the hypersphere universe expands slower than the
speed of light AND IT DOES the universal age is larger.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#478817

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-12-02 15:55 -0800
Message-ID<5C0470DC.611@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#478792
mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 9:23:32 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 2:50:52 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 12:04:29 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The light year age requires its expansion at the speed of light.
> > > > > > > If it is expanding below light speed the universe is much older.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and if it is expanding above the speed of light, is it younger or older?
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't believe it is.
> > > > > What is your point?
> > > > >
> > > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > but, but you wrote "If it is expanding below light speed"
> > > >
> > > > I'm asking "if it is expanding above the speed of light, is it younger
> > > > or older?"
> > >
> 
> That is your idea... can't you use your own mind to find the answer for your own belief?
> 
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > the operative words is "if it is"...that doesn't sound like 'you believe
> > > > it is or not'.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You wrote..."if".
> > >
> > > Roy Masters. It doesn't matter what I say... Right?
> > >
> > > Mitchell Raemsch
> >
> >
> > if you tell a lie to the fbi...it matters.
> >
> >
> > This is Usenet. That means you need to provide true, accurate and correct information.
> >
> >
> > I'm just correcting your inaccurate, incorrect and false information.
> >
> >
> > I'm just a tool of Usenet...
> 
> Answer for your own idea don't expect me Roy Masters...
> If the hypersphere universe expands slower than the
> speed of light AND IT DOES the universal age is larger.
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch


But you wrote " If it is expanding below light speed the universe is much older."


You said "older" not "larger"...


you're beginning to sound...evil.

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#478830

From"David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2018-12-02 19:29 -0800
Message-ID<541a9f43-0bbf-424a-83d8-5d2e4965fe54@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#478817
The universe will always appear to be 13.8880509 Billion years old

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#478831

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-12-02 19:39 -0800
Message-ID<9a0e2b88-8637-4cb9-910f-872c27e06429@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#478817
On Sunday, December 2, 2018 at 3:53:22 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> > 
> > On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 9:23:32 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 2:50:52 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 12:04:29 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The light year age requires its expansion at the speed of light.
> > > > > > > > If it is expanding below light speed the universe is much older.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and if it is expanding above the speed of light, is it younger or older?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't believe it is.
> > > > > > What is your point?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > but, but you wrote "If it is expanding below light speed"
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm asking "if it is expanding above the speed of light, is it younger
> > > > > or older?"
> > > >
> >
 
That is your idea... can't you use your own mind to find the answer for your own belief?

> > 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > the operative words is "if it is"...that doesn't sound like 'you believe
> > > > > it is or not'.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You wrote..."if".
> > > >
> > > > Roy Masters. It doesn't matter what I say... Right?
> > > >
> > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > >
> > >
> > > if you tell a lie to the fbi...it matters.
> > >
> > >
> > > This is Usenet. That means you need to provide true, accurate and correct information.
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm just correcting your inaccurate, incorrect and false information.

That is your claim to the truth...
That does not mean it is real...

> > >
> > >
> > > I'm just a tool of Usenet...
> > 
> > Answer for your own idea don't expect me Roy Masters...
> > If the hypersphere universe expands slower than the
> > speed of light AND IT DOES the universal age is larger.
> > 
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> 
> 
> But you wrote " If it is expanding below light speed the universe is much older."
> 
> 
> You said "older" not "larger"...

older and smaller...
Can you verify that yourself?

> 
> 
> you're beginning to sound...evil.

Right Roy. You're the hypocrite...

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#478712

FromMole Santiago <msb@awwnuvs.an>
Date2018-12-01 20:14 +0000
Message-ID<ptuq3o$1uno$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#478707
mitchrae3323 wrote:

> The light year age requires its expansion at the speed of light.
> If it is expanding below light speed the universe is much older.

Absolutely wrong assessment. Light speed is nothing compared to its 
constancy variation. That's intrinsic, at another time scale. You people 
relativists are not even knowing about the power and the deepness of what 
I just said.

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#478724

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-12-01 13:45 -0800
Message-ID<911a3540-f6c1-457a-a9e6-1a187d2b4625@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#478712
On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 12:14:52 PM UTC-8, Mole Santiago wrote:
> mitchrae3323 wrote:
> 
> > The light year age requires its expansion at the speed of light.
> > If it is expanding below light speed the universe is much older.
> 
> Absolutely wrong assessment. Light speed is nothing compared to its 
> constancy variation. That's intrinsic, at another time scale. You people 
> relativists are not even knowing about the power and the deepness of what 
> I just said.

What does it mean Roy masters?
If expansion is slow and it is
the universe got to its size slower
making it older than in the light years.

Mitchell Raemsch

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