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How many Black Holes are there?

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First post2018-11-17 22:26 -0800
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  How many Black Holes are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-11-17 22:26 -0800
    Re: How many Black Holes are there? Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com> - 2018-11-18 19:39 +1100
      Re: How many Black Holes are there? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-18 15:46 +0100
    Re: How many Black Holes are there? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-18 15:48 -0800
    Re: How many Black Holes are there? carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-18 15:55 -0800
      Re: How many Black Holes are there? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-18 19:35 -0800
    Re: How many Black Holes are there? carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-19 09:36 -0800
      Re: How many Black Holes are there? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-19 11:55 -0800
    Re: How many Black Holes are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-11-20 10:20 -0800
      Re: How many Black Holes are there? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-20 13:28 -0800
      Re: How many Black Holes are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-11-20 17:54 -0800
        Re: How many Black Holes are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-11-21 10:28 -0800
          Re: How many Black Holes are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-11-21 23:46 -0800
            Re: How many Black Holes are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-11-24 14:01 -0800
    How many Black Holes are there? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-20 14:28 -0800
      Re: How many Black Holes are there? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-20 14:51 -0800
        Re: How many Black Holes are there? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-21 03:04 -0800
          Re: How many Black Holes are there? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-21 03:45 -0800
    Re: How many Black Holes are there? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-11-20 15:27 -0800
      Re: How many Black Holes are there? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-21 00:57 +0100
    Re: How many Black Holes are there? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-11-20 15:54 -0800
    Re: How many Black Holes are there? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-11-20 16:09 -0800
    Re: How many Black Holes are there? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-11-20 16:13 -0800
    Re: How many Black Holes are there? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-11-21 12:21 -0800
      Re: How many Black Holes are there? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-21 22:13 +0100
    Re: How many Black Holes are there? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-11-21 12:23 -0800
      Re: How many Black Holes are there? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-21 15:17 -0800
    Re: How many Black Holes are there? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-11-21 12:28 -0800
    Re: How many Black Holes are there? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-11-21 13:30 -0800
    Re: How many Black Holes are there? consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 13:35 -0800
      Re: How many Black Holes are there? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 13:44 -0800
    Re: How many Black Holes are there? carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 17:03 -0800
      Re: How many Black Holes are there? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 18:37 -0800
      Re: How many Black Holes are there? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-25 04:18 +0100
        Re: How many Black Holes are there? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-25 07:38 -0800
          Re: How many Black Holes are there? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-25 07:51 -0800
            Re: How many Black Holes are there? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-25 07:57 -0800
          Re: How many Black Holes are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-11-25 11:34 -0800
            Re: How many Black Holes are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-11-25 12:27 -0800
    Re: How many Black Holes are there? consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 11:38 -0800
      Re: How many Black Holes are there? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-25 23:23 +0100
    Re: How many Black Holes are there? consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 11:48 -0800
    Re: How many Black Holes are there? consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 11:50 -0800
    Re: How many Black Holes are there? carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 12:32 -0800
      Re: How many Black Holes are there? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-25 22:10 +0100
    Re: How many Black Holes are there? carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 14:11 -0800
      Re: How many Black Holes are there? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-25 23:47 +0100
      Re: How many Black Holes are there? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 15:02 -0800
    Re: How many Black Holes are there? carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 15:37 -0800
      Re: How many Black Holes are there? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 16:18 -0800
    Re: How many Black Holes are there? consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 17:16 -0800
    Re: How many Black Holes are there? carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 17:21 -0800
      Re: How many Black Holes are there? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 17:57 -0800
    Re: How many Black Holes are there? carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 18:23 -0800
      Re: How many Black Holes are there? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 13:22 -0800
    Re: How many Black Holes are there? consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-26 13:40 -0800
    Re: How many Black Holes are there? carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 13:16 -0800
    Re: How many Black Holes are there? carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 13:25 -0800
    Re: How many Black Holes are there? carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 15:09 -0800

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#477398 — How many Black Holes are there?

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-11-17 22:26 -0800
SubjectHow many Black Holes are there?
Message-ID<5BF1060A.5EA5@ix.netcom.com>
How many Black Holes are there?

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#477399

FromWhisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>
Date2018-11-18 19:39 +1100
Message-ID<3N6dndnRAI7IuGzGnZ2dnUU7-budnZ2d@westnet.com.au>
In reply to#477398
On 18/11/2018 5:26 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> How many Black Holes are there?
> 

It doesn't matter.



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#477405

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2018-11-18 15:46 +0100
Message-ID<24953050-c0e7-3270-f122-88cf4935668e@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#477399
Whisper wrote:
> On 18/11/2018 5:26 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> How many Black Holes are there?
> 
> It doesn't matter.

But it does.

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#477450

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>
Date2018-11-18 15:48 -0800
Message-ID<psstor$fc9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#477398
On 11/17/2018 10:26 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> How many Black Holes are there?
> 

I don't know. If the universe is infinite, then there are an infinite 
amount. Well, how many stars are being tracked right now that are decent 
candidates to go supernova in less than 100 years? Some of them should 
end up creating black holes...

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#477452

Fromcarleto4157990662@gmail.com
Date2018-11-18 15:55 -0800
Message-ID<14965947-bdd6-47a5-bca5-38fe0a91e840@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#477398
There are no such thing as a black holes or galaxies since the Hubble has a maximum parallax distance of .114 ly. You have to resolve the star that composed a galaxy and the star around the black hole which is not possible using a reflection telly.

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#477465

Frompnalsing@gmail.com
Date2018-11-18 19:35 -0800
Message-ID<9a330893-969f-44f2-93a5-273a44bd5385@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#477452
On Sunday, November 18, 2018 at 3:55:57 PM UTC-8, carleto4...@gmail.com wrote:

> There are no such thing as a black holes or galaxies since the Hubble has a maximum parallax distance of .114 ly. You have to resolve the star that composed a galaxy and the star around the black hole which is not possible using a reflection telly.

Clearly, you have zero education regarding black holes or galaxies. Whatever does parallax have to do with seeing a galaxy?

Go read a book.

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#477505

Fromcarleto4157990662@gmail.com
Date2018-11-19 09:36 -0800
Message-ID<fc3d4eb1-6558-4d07-a7ae-b5ba85d1b2e0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#477398
How far or near is the closest galaxy in ly, shit for brains?

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#477526

Frompnalsing@gmail.com
Date2018-11-19 11:55 -0800
Message-ID<f632afad-0649-41da-9a13-1c4b91a30f05@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#477505
On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 9:36:10 AM UTC-8, carleto4...@gmail.com wrote:

> How far or near is the closest galaxy in ly, shit for brains?

So you are incapable of Googling this for yourself? Doesn't that make *you* the actual shit-for-brains here?

The LMC is 158,200 light years away and the SMC is 199,000 light years away, but these are dwarf galaxies. M-31, the Andromeda galaxy, is 2.537 million light years away, with all estimates coming from Wikipedia.

All 3 of these objects are easily seen with the naked eye in a clear dark sky by anyone with normal vision, although you need to be in the southern hemisphere to see the Magellanic Clouds.

You claim that galaxies don't exist because the Hubble has a maximum parallax distance of .114 light years is easily proven to be complete bullshit. WTF does parallax have to do with galaxies and black holes? Are you perhaps under the impression that parallax is the only way to measure distances to objects in the universe? In any case, .114 light years is incorrect in any case, since the nearest star is about 4 light years away, about 40 times further than .114 light years.

Like I said before, read a book or an article, like this one, for example...

https://lco.global/spacebook/parallax-and-distance-measurement/

... where you might learn that spaced-based parallax measurements can work only to about 1000 parsecs... you do know what a parsec is, right?

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#477620

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-11-20 10:20 -0800
Message-ID<5BF45082.3D0C@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#477398
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> How many Black Holes are there?



maybe yous people didn't understand the question...


How many Black Holes are there?  "are there?"

"are there" means...in a place or position.

"are there"

How many Black Holes ... *are there*?


Look, I understand yous numbers guys like to say 'billions and billions'...


'billions and billions of earths', and 'billions and billions of black holes'...


but the question is...How many Black Holes are there?


You know, confirmed..


is it 10... or around 20? maybe 25??

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#477639

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>
Date2018-11-20 13:28 -0800
Message-ID<pt1ua8$s48$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#477620
On 11/20/2018 10:20 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> How many Black Holes are there?
> 
> 
> 
> maybe yous people didn't understand the question...
> 
> 
> How many Black Holes are there?  "are there?"
> 
> "are there" means...in a place or position.
> 
> "are there"
> 
> How many Black Holes ... *are there*?
> 
> 
> Look, I understand yous numbers guys like to say 'billions and billions'...
> 
> 
> 'billions and billions of earths', and 'billions and billions of black holes'...
> 
> 
> but the question is...How many Black Holes are there?
> 
> 
> You know, confirmed..
> 
> 
> is it 10... or around 20? maybe 25??
> 

Imagine that most, if not all galaxies have super massive black holes 
nested within their cores. Are there more than 25 galaxies?

Also, there can be smaller black holes wandering the dust lanes of a galaxy.

I have a feeling that these small wandering bh's might be "connected" to 
the main super large giant bh in the center.

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#477684

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-11-20 17:54 -0800
Message-ID<5BF4BAF1.43D5@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#477620
palsing wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 10:20:50 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > How many Black Holes are there?
> >
> >
> >
> > maybe yous people didn't understand the question...
> >
> >
> > How many Black Holes are there?  "are there?"
> >
> > "are there" means...in a place or position.
> >
> > "are there"
> >
> > How many Black Holes ... *are there*?
> >
> >
> > Look, I understand yous numbers guys like to say 'billions and billions'...
> >
> >
> > 'billions and billions of earths', and 'billions and billions of black holes'...
> >
> >
> > but the question is...How many Black Holes are there?
> >
> >
> > You know, confirmed..
> >
> >
> > is it 10... or around 20? maybe 25??
> 
> Another guy who can't be bothered to look this up for himself, but would rather just make a wild-ass guess.
> 
> Here you go, Lazy...
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_black_holes
> 
> I count 139 on that page, including galaxies containing bit double and triple black holes.


That link you provided reads:



This is an ordered list of the most massive black holes so far discovered (and probable candidates),


You would have to omit (probable candidates) since "probable candidates" you cannot confirm that which you have no proof of.


I would estimate there are over 100 probable candidates.


That leaves 10 balck holes... or around 20? or maybe even  25?? But certaintly not 130 since you didn't omit  probable candidates.


There you go, Lazy...

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#477741

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-11-21 10:28 -0800
Message-ID<5BF5A3C6.B45@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#477684
palsing wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 5:54:06 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > palsing wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 10:20:50 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > How many Black Holes are there?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > maybe yous people didn't understand the question...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > How many Black Holes are there?  "are there?"
> > > >
> > > > "are there" means...in a place or position.
> > > >
> > > > "are there"
> > > >
> > > > How many Black Holes ... *are there*?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Look, I understand yous numbers guys like to say 'billions and billions'...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 'billions and billions of earths', and 'billions and billions of black holes'...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > but the question is...How many Black Holes are there?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You know, confirmed..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > is it 10... or around 20? maybe 25??
> > >
> > > Another guy who can't be bothered to look this up for himself, but would rather just make a wild-ass guess.
> > >
> > > Here you go, Lazy...
> > >
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_black_holes
> > >
> > > I count 139 on that page, including galaxies containing bit double and triple black holes.
> >
> >
> > That link you provided reads:
> >
> >
> >
> > This is an ordered list of the most massive black holes so far discovered (and probable candidates),
> >
> >
> > You would have to omit (probable candidates) since "probable candidates" you cannot confirm that which you have no proof of.
> >
> >
> > I would estimate there are over 100 probable candidates.
> >
> >
> > That leaves 10 balck holes... or around 20? or maybe even  25?? But certaintly not 130 since you didn't omit  probable candidates.
> >
> >
> > There you go, Lazy...
> 
> In the interest of accuracy, the page says "This is a list of black holes (and stars considered probable candidates)". Note it says "stars" and not Supermassive black holes, which are definitely not individual stars.


Okay Lazy, here it is on the line you provided:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_black_holes


Supermassive black holes and candidates

(then under it it reads: See also: List of most massive black holes and List of quasars)

Then, you put your mouse on the highlighted link:


List of most massive black holes


The link pop-up reads: This is an ordered list of the most massive black holes so far discovered (and probable candidates)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_massive_black_holes



Here you go, Lazy...

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#477788

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-11-21 23:46 -0800
Message-ID<5BF65ECD.2E33@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#477741
palsing wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 10:26:49 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > palsing wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 5:54:06 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > palsing wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 10:20:50 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How many Black Holes are there?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > maybe yous people didn't understand the question...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How many Black Holes are there?  "are there?"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "are there" means...in a place or position.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "are there"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How many Black Holes ... *are there*?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Look, I understand yous numbers guys like to say 'billions and billions'...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'billions and billions of earths', and 'billions and billions of black holes'...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > but the question is...How many Black Holes are there?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You know, confirmed..
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > is it 10... or around 20? maybe 25??
> > > > >
> > > > > Another guy who can't be bothered to look this up for himself, but would rather just make a wild-ass guess.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here you go, Lazy...
> > > > >
> > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_black_holes
> > > > >
> > > > > I count 139 on that page, including galaxies containing bit double and triple black holes.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That link you provided reads:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is an ordered list of the most massive black holes so far discovered (and probable candidates),
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You would have to omit (probable candidates) since "probable candidates" you cannot confirm that which you have no proof of.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I would estimate there are over 100 probable candidates.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That leaves 10 balck holes... or around 20? or maybe even  25?? But certaintly not 130 since you didn't omit  probable candidates.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There you go, Lazy...
> > >
> > > In the interest of accuracy, the page says "This is a list of black holes (and stars considered probable candidates)". Note it says "stars" and not Supermassive black holes, which are definitely not individual stars.
> >
> >
> > Okay Lazy, here it is on the line you provided:
> >
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_black_holes
> >
> >
> > Supermassive black holes and candidates
> >
> > (then under it it reads: See also: List of most massive black holes and List of quasars)
> >
> > Then, you put your mouse on the highlighted link:
> >
> >
> > List of most massive black holes
> >
> >
> > The link pop-up reads: This is an ordered list of the most massive black holes so far discovered (and probable candidates)
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_massive_black_holes
> >
> >
> >
> > Here you go, Lazy...
> 
> So, what's your point? 'Probable candidates' is a strong statement, 

Maybe you don't know what the word "Probable" means...it means no proof. How can you confirm something without proof?





>and I see where casually dismissed my question about how you 'estimated' that there were over 100 'probable candidates'?


The math is simple, you counted 139 black holes and I took away the  'probable candidates', 

 139  Supermassive black holes and candidates
- 25  confirmed
_________
114  'probable candidates'


There are over 100  'probable candidates' (they don't count).









and i didn't say two dozen...Here you go, Lazy...

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#478016

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-11-24 14:01 -0800
Message-ID<5BF9CA1F.66E1@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#477788
palsing wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 11:44:17 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > palsing wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 10:26:49 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > palsing wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 5:54:06 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > palsing wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 10:20:50 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > How many Black Holes are there?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > maybe yous people didn't understand the question...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How many Black Holes are there?  "are there?"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "are there" means...in a place or position.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "are there"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How many Black Holes ... *are there*?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Look, I understand yous numbers guys like to say 'billions and billions'...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 'billions and billions of earths', and 'billions and billions of black holes'...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > but the question is...How many Black Holes are there?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You know, confirmed..
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > is it 10... or around 20? maybe 25??
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Another guy who can't be bothered to look this up for himself, but would rather just make a wild-ass guess.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here you go, Lazy...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_black_holes
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I count 139 on that page, including galaxies containing bit double and triple black holes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That link you provided reads:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is an ordered list of the most massive black holes so far discovered (and probable candidates),
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You would have to omit (probable candidates) since "probable candidates" you cannot confirm that which you have no proof of.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would estimate there are over 100 probable candidates.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That leaves 10 balck holes... or around 20? or maybe even  25?? But certaintly not 130 since you didn't omit  probable candidates.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There you go, Lazy...
> > > > >
> > > > > In the interest of accuracy, the page says "This is a list of black holes (and stars considered probable candidates)". Note it says "stars" and not Supermassive black holes, which are definitely not individual stars.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Okay Lazy, here it is on the line you provided:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_black_holes
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Supermassive black holes and candidates
> > > >
> > > > (then under it it reads: See also: List of most massive black holes and List of quasars)
> > > >
> > > > Then, you put your mouse on the highlighted link:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > List of most massive black holes
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The link pop-up reads: This is an ordered list of the most massive black holes so far discovered (and probable candidates)
> > > >
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_massive_black_holes
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Here you go, Lazy...
> > >
> > > So, what's your point? 'Probable candidates' is a strong statement,
> >
> > Maybe you don't know what the word "Probable" means...it means no proof. How can you confirm something without proof?
> 
> Get a dictionary...
> 
> https://www.google.com/search?q=probable&rlz=1C1ILPI_enUS745US745&oq=probable&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.4949j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
> 
> prob·a·ble
> adjective
> 1.
> likely to be the case or to happen.
> "it is probable that the economic situation will deteriorate further"
> synonyms:       likely, most likely, odds-on, expected, anticipated, predictable, foreseeable, ten to one;
> 
> Besides, in science there is no such thing as "proof"...
> 
> https://www.google.com/search?q=is+there+proof+in+science%3F&rlz=1C1ILPI_enUS745US745&oq=is+there+proof+in+science%3F&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i64l3.6901j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
> 
> > >and I see where casually dismissed my question about how you 'estimated' that there were over 100 'probable candidates'?
> >
> >
> > The math is simple, you counted 139 black holes and I took away the  'probable candidates',
> 
> You cannot determine which ones are probable candidates... you are just making it up...


It's very easy to determined which ones are...confimed black holes from the canidate, ..unless if you're tooooo lazy.



> >
> >  139  Supermassive black holes and candidates
> > - 25  confirmed
> > _________
> > 114  'probable candidates'
> >
> >
> > There are over 100  'probable candidates' (they don't count).
> 
> Make it up as you go along...



Here you go, Lazy...find out how may are confirmed.


Separate the men from the boys...read a book.


laaaaazzzzzzzzzzeeeeeeey.


oh, i forgot...you get your 'specailized knowledge' from the...Internet. 


What do you call the rest of the 'billions and billions' of black holes????



garbage.

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#477652

From"David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2018-11-20 14:28 -0800
Message-ID<d926ec13-7822-4da6-b554-4865af3bdea9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#477398
The Starmaker Sharted

How many Black Holes are there? 

Well... 
if you’re inside the event horizon....
There is only ONE black hole 

The one you’re trapped inside of.

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#477655

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>
Date2018-11-20 14:51 -0800
Message-ID<pt235q$nqp$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#477652
On 11/20/2018 2:28 PM, David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker Sharted
> 
> How many Black Holes are there?
> 
> Well...
> if you’re inside the event horizon....
> There is only ONE black hole
> 
> The one you’re trapped inside of.
> 

;^)

I have always had a sneaking suspicion that our observable universe is 
contained inside of a black hole residing in our "parent" universe, so 
to speak. We are one of its children, and time wrt the parent and its 
young offspring is radically different. Not quite unlike a bunch of kids 
playing around, vs a bunch of 90 year old people hanging out without 
Geritol, 24 proof?

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#477710

From"David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2018-11-21 03:04 -0800
Message-ID<a9ced096-e4b9-43f9-9f0e-49bef5c64cb8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#477655
Chris M. Thomasson
- hide quoted text -
On 11/20/2018 2:28 PM, David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote: 
> 
> The Starmaker Sharted 
> 
> How many Black Holes are there? 
> 
> Well... 
> if you’re inside the event horizon.... 
> There is only ONE black hole 
> 
> The one you’re trapped inside of. 
> 

;^) 

I have always had a sneaking suspicion that our observable universe is 
contained inside of a black hole residing in our "parent" universe, so 
to speak. We are one of its children, and time wrt the parent and its 
young offspring is radically different. Not quite unlike a bunch of kids 
playing around, vs a bunch of 90 year old people hanging out without 
Geritol, 24 proof? 

Yes ..... (Bjerknes Forces & Oscillation Period) = Bulk Modulus & Wave Speed 

Oscillation Period 13.8880509 Billion light years according to Max Planck 

Redshift Hubble 70406.791856 m / s/Mpc  = (67798.6422484*6.5248935/2pi)

1.70377849e+53 kg * (((70406.791856 * (m / s)) / (1 Mpc)) * (planck length / (2pi))) = 1 m kg / s 

Hubble ((mass universe * (((70406.791856 * (m / s)) / (1 Mpc)) *planck length) = (2pi kg m/s) 

c * ((((planck length * 0.5)^3) / (Planck Time * 0.5)) * 1.70377849e+53 (kg^(-1))) = 1 m^4 kg^-1 s^-2 

Bulk Modulus Reverberations & Wave Speed @ c  …. Bjerknes Forces 

(((((1.70377849e+53 kg) * G) / (c^2)) / (13.88805086 billion light years)) * 6.5248935) / (2pi) = 1 

1.70377849e+53 kg * (((70406.791856 * (m / s)) / (1 Mpc)) * (planck length / (2pi))) = 1.00000000 m kg/s 


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubble%27s_law#Observed_values_of_the_Hubble_constant  


((0.5 Planck Time) / ((0.5 Planck Length)^3)) / 299792458 = 1.70377849e+53 s / m^3 = mass universe 

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#477711

From"David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2018-11-21 03:45 -0800
Message-ID<19b75fec-0cbb-4ee8-8e1a-cbeae2c7be66@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#477710
On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 5:04:28 AM UTC-6, David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> Chris M. Thomasson
> - hide quoted text -
> On 11/20/2018 2:28 PM, David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote: 
> > 
> > The Starmaker Sharted 
> > 
> > How many Black Holes are there? 
> > 
> > Well... 
> > if you’re inside the event horizon.... 
> > There is only ONE black hole 
> > 
> > The one you’re trapped inside of. 
> > 
> 
> ;^) 
> 
> I have always had a sneaking suspicion that our observable universe is 
> contained inside of a black hole residing in our "parent" universe, so 
> to speak. We are one of its children, and time wrt the parent and its 
> young offspring is radically different. Not quite unlike a bunch of kids 
> playing around, vs a bunch of 90 year old people hanging out without 
> Geritol, 24 proof? 
> 
> Yes ..... (Bjerknes Forces & Oscillation Period) = Bulk Modulus & Wave Speed 
> 
> Oscillation Period 13.8880509 Billion light years according to Max Planck 
> 
> Redshift Hubble 70406.791856 m / s/Mpc  = (67798.6422484*6.5248935/2pi)
> 
> 1.70377849e+53 kg * (((70406.791856 * (m / s)) / (1 Mpc)) * (planck length / (2pi))) = 1 m kg / s 
> 
> Hubble ((mass universe * (((70406.791856 * (m / s)) / (1 Mpc)) *planck length) = (2pi kg m/s) 
> 
> c * ((((planck length * 0.5)^3) / (Planck Time * 0.5)) * 1.70377849e+53 (kg^(-1))) = 1 m^4 kg^-1 s^-2 
> 
> Bulk Modulus Reverberations & Wave Speed @ c  …. Bjerknes Forces 
> 
> (((((1.70377849e+53 kg) * G) / (c^2)) / (13.88805086 billion light years)) * 6.5248935) / (2pi) = 1 
> 
> 1.70377849e+53 kg * (((70406.791856 * (m / s)) / (1 Mpc)) * (planck length / (2pi))) = 1.00000000 m kg/s 
> 
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubble%27s_law#Observed_values_of_the_Hubble_constant  
> 
> 
> ((0.5 Planck Time) / ((0.5 Planck Length)^3)) / 299792458 = 1.70377849e+53 s / m^3 = mass universe

((((0.5 Planck Length) / c) / ((0.5 Planck Length)^3)) / 299 792 458) * (planck length^3) = 7.19318636e-52 seconds

((((0.5 Planck Time)) / ((0.5 Planck Length)^3)) / c) * (planck length^3) * (((c^7) / (hbar * G))^0.5) = 4

((0.5 Planck Length/c) / ((0.5 Planck Length)^3)) / c * (Planck volume)*(Planck Acceleration ) = 4 

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#477656

Fromnumbernumber1964@gmail.com
Date2018-11-20 15:27 -0800
Message-ID<a275a9b4-c12e-4c64-a458-212b0e304a60@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#477398
How do you determine the distance to a galaxy, diarrhea brain?

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#477668

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2018-11-21 00:57 +0100
Message-ID<4940de4f-63e5-5d90-6e12-8a97612c9317@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#477656
numbernumber1964@gmail.com wrote:
> How do you determine the distance to a galaxy,

<OT>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_distance_ladder#Galactic_distance_indicators>

</OT>

> diarrhea brain?

You must be speaking of yourself.

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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