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  The Future Of Universe AbhiJeet Patil <abhiriksh@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 10:23 -0700
    Re:The Future Of Universe Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-10-17 20:14 +0200
      Re: The Future Of Universe mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-17 13:26 -0700
        Re: The Future Of Universe AbhiJeet Patil <abhiriksh@gmail.com> - 2018-10-18 03:57 -0700
          Re: The Future Of Universe AbhiJeet Patil <abhiriksh@gmail.com> - 2018-10-18 05:54 -0700
      Re:The Future Of Universe Gil Callow <snam@nawem.co> - 2018-10-22 09:38 +0000
    Re: The Future Of Universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-18 15:40 +0000
      Re: The Future Of Universe AbhiJeet Patil <abhiriksh@gmail.com> - 2018-10-18 19:19 -0700
        Re: The Future Of Universe Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-19 04:51 +0200
          Magic tricks (was: The Future Of Universe) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-19 05:05 +0200
            Magic tricks (was: The Future Of Universe) AbhiJeet Patil <abhiriksh@gmail.com> - 2018-10-18 21:07 -0700
              Magic tricks (was: The Future Of Universe) AbhiJeet Patil <abhiriksh@gmail.com> - 2018-10-18 21:10 -0700
              Re: Magic tricks Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-19 06:25 +0200
                Re: Magic tricks AbhiJeet Patil <abhiriksh@gmail.com> - 2018-10-18 22:30 -0700
                  Re: Magic tricks Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-19 14:32 +0200
        Re: The Future Of Universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-19 16:42 +0000
    Re: The Future Of Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-10-18 09:31 -0700
    Re: The Future Of Universe mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-18 12:59 -0700
      Re: The Future Of Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-10-18 13:39 -0700
        Re: The Future Of Universe mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-19 20:06 -0700
          Re: The Future Of Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-10-20 10:32 -0700
            Re: The Future Of Universe mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-20 13:22 -0700
          Re: The Future Of Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-10-20 13:46 -0700
            Re: The Future Of Universe AbhiJeet Patil <abhiriksh@gmail.com> - 2018-10-20 14:24 -0700
            Re: The Future Of Universe mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-20 19:30 -0700
              Re: The Future Of Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-10-21 11:34 -0700
                Re: The Future Of Universe mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-21 12:39 -0700
                  Re: The Future Of Universe "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-21 18:43 -0700
        Re: The Future Of Universe mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-23 11:52 -0800
    Re: The Future Of Universe Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-10-20 13:54 -0700
      Re: The Future Of Universe Gil Callow <snam@nawem.co> - 2018-10-22 09:44 +0000

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#475116 — The Future Of Universe

Once you eliminate the impossible - whatever remains - no matter how improbable - must be the Truth.

But sadly almost nobody follows this rule.

Can I put a card under your feet in your shoe - when you are wearing it - without touching you and without making your touch sensation aware of it ?

Your obvious answer is 'NO". But magicians like David Blaine are already doing it. Your next stance will be to claim that it's trick or illusion or whatever. But you yourself drew the physical card from your shoe and that card is same which you had chosen few seconds ago. You will get amused, but will convince yourself that David has done some kind of trick. 

But as you are most brilliant physicist - the person who gives supreme importance to logic - you should be able to explain it logically in reasonably short time. Because as a physicist, you are emperor while this magician is weird beggar on street.

But you don't do it. You simply ignore it.

Of course, some people use logical tricks, but as a logician you should know how far a person can stretch logic to sound it look like magic.

What I am trying to say is that ignoring some magic of magicians by treating them tricks is the biggest mistake you are doing.

That Force or dark force is already wandering on streets of earth since time immemorial.

Military (physical strength), religious people (faith), actors (emotions) have already dominated earth.

The future belongs to Magicians. Expect megalomaniac things being created bu magicians. I mean expect them to create matter and even life. Because you must learn how that Force created this matter Universe.

https://youtu.be/Dw0AOj12Exw

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#475122

AbhiJeet Patil <abhiriksh@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
> Once you eliminate the impossible - whatever remains - no matter how improbable - must be the Truth.

If what you say is true,
then as you being wrong is not impossible,
it must be true you are wrong.

Consequence of A cannot be not A.

Classical rejection of a hypothesis by its inconsistency.


-- 
Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer)

"Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity."
Miloš Forman


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#475137

On Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 11:14:14 AM UTC-7, Libor Striz wrote:
> AbhiJeet Patil <abhiriksh@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
> > Once you eliminate the impossible - whatever remains - no matter how improbable - must be the Truth.

This must not be done as atheism...

Mitchell Raemsch

> 
> If what you say is true,
> then as you being wrong is not impossible,
> it must be true you are wrong.
> 
> Consequence of A cannot be not A.
> 
> Classical rejection of a hypothesis by its inconsistency.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer)
> 
> "Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity."
> Miloš Forman
> 
> 
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#475180

I really don't care about awesome magic until the cards are in the hands of magician and with his body. He might be doing some trick which my eyes can't notice.

But when the card in his hand disappears and reappears in your not-opened beer bottle or shoe or pocket or bra when the magician was nowhere near your body and when your touch senses didn't feel anything, then it's not magic. It's violation of your logical universe by that Force.

As a scientific person, you should have very sharp eye on what's happening in nature. But you don't do it and even I missed it completely until I noticed your extremely weird behaviour about my simple instantaneous Speed experiment.

https://youtu.be/OekwbjPmceQ

Wake Up. Open Your Eyes.

That Force is about to tell you how He created matter and life.

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#475184

https://youtu.be/J94uO-urSTg

That Force is trying to convince me that actually I am the one influencing minds of all 7.5 billion people so that you don't bother to think over my simple experiments and geometry. He is trying to convince me that I have planned something much much bigger and that I wrote that script even before I was born. No, I am not influencing your minds. Why the hell I should plan torture to myself? Why the hell I should stand between you and my beer?

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#475474

Libor Striz wrote:

> AbhiJeet Patil <abhiriksh@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
>> Once you eliminate the impossible - whatever remains - no matter how
>> improbable - must be the Truth.
> 
> If what you say is true,
> then as you being wrong is not impossible,
> it must be true you are wrong.
> Consequence of A cannot be not A. 
> Classical rejection of a hypothesis by its inconsistency.

You just rejected yourself, rejecting the possibility as true. This is 
disgusting to an extent degree.

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#475190

AbhiJeet Patil <abhiriksh@gmail.com> wrote:
> Once you eliminate the impossible - whatever remains - no matter how
> improbable - must be the Truth.
> 
> But sadly almost nobody follows this rule.
> 
> Can I put a card under your feet in your shoe - when you are wearing it -
> without touching you and without making your touch sensation aware of it ?
> 
> Your obvious answer is 'NO". But magicians like David Blaine are already
> doing it. Your next stance will be to claim that it's trick or illusion
> or whatever. But you yourself drew the physical card from your shoe and
> that card is same which you had chosen few seconds ago. You will get
> amused, but will convince yourself that David has done some kind of trick. 
> 
> But as you are most brilliant physicist - the person who gives supreme
> importance to logic - you should be able to explain it logically in
> reasonably short time. Because as a physicist, you are emperor while this
> magician is weird beggar on street.
> 
> But you don't do it. You simply ignore it.
> 
> Of course, some people use logical tricks, but as a logician you should
> know how far a person can stretch logic to sound it look like magic.
> 

Magic is an art where the magician exhibits something surprising happening.
The audience then tries to formulate a hypothesis that explains how it
happened. The magician anticipates this hypothesis, and then through a bit
of theater, shows that the hypothesis is wrong. This is where the audience
tosses up its hands and says it must just be magic then. It of course is
not magic, and there is a perfectly rational but not obvious or
easy-to-understand explanation, but the magician usually does not share
that. 

In physics, many of the same steps occur. Except that the physicist does
not withhold the explanation. Instead, the physicist says, ok, the
explanation is rather involved and requires you to be familiar with certain
ideas. Many times, the audience member says, no thanks, that’s too much
work, I’ll just believe it’s magic and you’re trying to be mysterious. 

> What I am trying to say is that ignoring some magic of magicians by
> treating them tricks is the biggest mistake you are doing.
> 
> That Force or dark force is already wandering on streets of earth since time immemorial.
> 
> Military (physical strength), religious people (faith), actors (emotions)
> have already dominated earth.
> 
> The future belongs to Magicians. Expect megalomaniac things being created
> bu magicians. I mean expect them to create matter and even life. Because
> you must learn how that Force created this matter Universe.
> 
> https://youtu.be/Dw0AOj12Exw
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#475225

Odd Bodkin -

This magician Billy Kidd teleported card from behind the glass in the pocket of street man.

https://youtu.be/ON1TeeLZ_YQ

Obviously your reaction will be that those street people are stooges. But David Blaine and other Magicians have performed similar magic to biggest stars of Hollywood, famous physicist Stephen Hawking, in live TV shows and even President of USA. So the stooges theory obviously fails.

These magicians indeed teleported things. Now as a rational person, you must not ignore these extremely serious violations of physics laws. How on earth David Blaine teleported signed card in the beer bottle of a street man (belonging to street man) which was not opened by street man? Just how?

The world of Physics is over. I thought it will begin after atleast few decades. But no, the world of physics is over. Military, religious people, rich people, actors, physicists have dominated this earth. The future world will be dominated by magicians.

Because, humans must know how the matter and life in this Universe came into existence.

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#475226

AbhiJeet Patil wrote:
> Odd Bodkin -
> 
> This magician Billy Kidd teleported card from behind the glass in the
> pocket of street man.
> 
> https://youtu.be/ON1TeeLZ_YQ
> 
> Obviously your reaction will be that those street people are stooges.

Not necessarily.  Magic tricks are first and foremost the perfection of the
art of distracting people so that they do not realize all of which is
happening (to them).  In this video, there is an obvious gap shortly after
the “your card” is shown.  Also, it is zoomed in on the audience so that we
cannot see what is going on below their waist.

For example, the woman with the red baby carriage passing behind the two
people of the audience just in time could be part of the trick.  She could
have had a deck of cards with her and sneaked the right card into the man’s
pocket while the two of them were moving backwards, towards her, but
focusing their attention on the magician who is visibly, desperately trying
to focus their attention away from what goes on behind them.

> But David Blaine and other Magicians have performed similar magic to
> biggest stars of Hollywood, famous physicist Stephen Hawking, in live TV
> shows and even President of USA. So the stooges theory obviously fails.

Fallacy: Argument at authority.

That a person can be easily distracted, and thus tricked, has very little to
do with the person’s intelligence (although it is outright ridiculous to
suggest that the *current* President of the USA would be intelligent), and a
lot with the skill of the magician, which is distraction.

> These magicians indeed teleported things.

No, they made it look like that happened, and you are ignorant and naive
enough to believe that it did.

At the moment, we can barely "teleport" photons in the sense that of two
separate photons the same quantum state can be measured (IIRC).  This
already is very difficult to do and requires precise technical equipment.
How do you suppose did the magicians teleport things without *any* technical
equipment?

> Now as a rational person, you must not ignore these extremely serious
> violations of physics laws.

A rational person would apply Occam’s razor and find that it is much more
likely that the important thing has escaped one’s attention.

This has nothing to do with relativity.

F’up2 sci.physics

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#475227 — Magic tricks (was: The Future Of Universe)

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> AbhiJeet Patil wrote:
>> Odd Bodkin -
>>
>> This magician Billy Kidd teleported card from behind the glass in the
>> pocket of street man.
>>
>> https://youtu.be/ON1TeeLZ_YQ
>>
>> Obviously your reaction will be that those street people are stooges.
> 
> Not necessarily.  Magic tricks are first and foremost the perfection of the
> art of distracting people so that they do not realize all of which is
> happening (to them).  In this video, there is an obvious gap shortly after
> the “your card” is shown.  Also, it is zoomed in on the audience so that we
> cannot see what is going on below their waist.
> 
> For example, the woman with the red baby carriage passing behind the two
> people of the audience just in time could be part of the trick.  She could
> have had a deck of cards with her and sneaked the right card into the man’s
> pocket while the two of them were moving backwards, towards her, but
> focusing their attention on the magician who is visibly, desperately trying
> to focus their attention away from what goes on behind them.

If you read the comments below the video, you find that several people are
suggesting that the card was in the man’s pocket from the beginning.  And
indeed, there is something reddish sticking out his open pocket at ca. 0:13
to 0:15, and the back of the card he draws from his pocket later is red.
So he might very well be a stooge, but his friend might not be (it is easier
to fake amusement than surprise).

This has obviously nothing to do with physics, and since I do not know (and
do not care to find out) in which newsgroup it could belong, F‘up2 poster.

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#475228 — Magic tricks (was: The Future Of Universe)

Thomas -

Are anchor and all these people are also stooges?

https://youtu.be/Z8Ws4PEky28

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#475229 — Magic tricks (was: The Future Of Universe)

Thomas -

Are these military men in Afghanistan are also stooges of David Blaine ?

https://youtu.be/yExCvZ3zqNE

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#475230 — Re: Magic tricks

AbhiJeet Patil wrote:
> Thomas -
> 
> Are anchor and all these people are also stooges?
> 
> https://youtu.be/Z8Ws4PEky28

You are off topic.

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#475232 — Re: Magic tricks

Thomas -

Isn't instantaneous speed of force "on topic" ? Why the hell everyone -except one Physics Journal - go dead silent on my experiment? How on earth you people have so much daring to talk day and night on nonsense things when you have never experimentally verified your most simple assumption?

I must dig out source of your insanity. And I have found that source of you ignoring my experiment and violations of physics laws by magicians is same.

Have you noticed that you chose my weakest video link to comment and running away from strong video links?

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#475241 — Re: Magic tricks

AbhiJeet Patil wrote:
> Thomas -

This is Usenet.  Learn to post, Googlodyte.

> Isn't instantaneous speed of force "on topic" ?

I do not think so.  How did you get the idea that it would be?

Also, *your* "teleportation" has nothing to do with that either.

> Why the hell everyone -except one Physics Journal - go dead silent on my experiment?

I do not know your experiment.  Am I supposed to?  Why?

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#475254

AbhiJeet Patil <abhiriksh@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd Bodkin -
> 
> This magician Billy Kidd teleported card from behind the glass in the pocket of street man.
> 
> https://youtu.be/ON1TeeLZ_YQ
> 
> Obviously your reaction will be that those street people are stooges. 

No, I’m not suggesting that at all. That’s the point. I’m not the magician.
There is a perfectly ordinary explanation of how it’s done, but the
magician doesn’t tell you what that is. 

Physicists do tell you what the explanation is. 

There is no magic. 

> But David Blaine and other Magicians have performed similar magic to
> biggest stars of Hollywood, famous physicist Stephen Hawking, in live TV
> shows and even President of USA. So the stooges theory obviously fails.
> 
> These magicians indeed teleported things. Now as a rational person, you
> must not ignore these extremely serious violations of physics laws. How
> on earth David Blaine teleported signed card in the beer bottle of a
> street man (belonging to street man) which was not opened by street man? Just how?
> 
> The world of Physics is over. I thought it will begin after atleast few
> decades. But no, the world of physics is over. Military, religious
> people, rich people, actors, physicists have dominated this earth. The
> future world will be dominated by magicians.
> 
> Because, humans must know how the matter and life in this Universe came into existence.
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#475191

AbhiJeet Patil wrote:
> 
> Once you eliminate the impossible - whatever remains - no matter how improbable - must be the Truth.
> 
> But sadly almost nobody follows this rule.
> 
> Can I put a card under your feet in your shoe - when you are wearing it - without touching you and without making your touch sensation aware of it ?
> 
> Your obvious answer is 'NO". But magicians like David Blaine are already doing it. Your next stance will be to claim that it's trick or illusion or whatever. But you yourself drew the physical card from your shoe and that card is same which you had chosen few seconds ago. You will get amused, but will convince yourself that David has done some kind of trick.
> 
> But as you are most brilliant physicist - the person who gives supreme importance to logic - you should be able to explain it logically in reasonably short time. Because as a physicist, you are emperor while this magician is weird beggar on street.
> 
> But you don't do it. You simply ignore it.
> 
> Of course, some people use logical tricks, but as a logician you should know how far a person can stretch logic to sound it look like magic.
> 
> What I am trying to say is that ignoring some magic of magicians by treating them tricks is the biggest mistake you are doing.
> 
> That Force or dark force is already wandering on streets of earth since time immemorial.
> 
> Military (physical strength), religious people (faith), actors (emotions) have already dominated earth.
> 
> The future belongs to Magicians. Expect megalomaniac things being created bu magicians. I mean expect them to create matter and even life. Because you must learn how that Force created this matter Universe.
> 
> https://youtu.be/Dw0AOj12Exw


How did you do that?

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#475196

The future is more distance.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#475201

mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> The future is more distance.
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch



the future is now...

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#475294

On Thursday, October 18, 2018 at 1:38:55 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> > 
> > The future is more distance.
> > 
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> 
> 
> 
> the future is now...

Roy Masters... future distance expands inbetween now…

Mitchell Raemsch

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