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  Is the moon there when nobody looks? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-07 10:17 -0700
    Re: Is the moon there when nobody looks? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-07 11:13 -0700
      Re: Is the moon there when nobody looks? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-07 11:45 -0700
      Re: Is the moon there when nobody looks? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-07 17:53 -0700
        Re: Is the moon there when nobody looks? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-07 19:43 -0700
        Re: Is the moon there when nobody looks? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-08 17:57 -0700
          Re: Is the moon there when nobody looks? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-08 22:36 -0700
    Is the moon there when nobody looks? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-07 13:03 -0700
      Re: Is the moon there when nobody looks? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-07 16:35 -0700
    Re: Is the moon there when nobody looks? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-07 13:44 -0700
    Re:Is the moon there when nobody looks? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-08 06:29 +0200
      Re:Is the moon there when nobody looks? Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 04:32 +0000
        Re: Is the moon there when nobody looks? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-07 21:53 -0700

#463731 — Is the moon there when nobody looks?

Is the moon there when nobody looks?

Actually, even if you're looking at it, it's not there...at least not all there.


It's all there as time has passed, but it's not all there while time is passing.


You cannot travel into the future because there is no future to travel too..


it's not all there..yet.

One minute of 'absolute time' is not all there either.

If you were to jump one second forward of 'absolute time'..it would be blank,

or you would hit a blank wall.

You can probably see a half of moon..

but the other half..hasn't happen yet.


When is the future?

The future is Now.

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#463737

Mark Earnest wrote:
> 
> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 12:17:32 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Is the moon there when nobody looks?
> >
> > Actually, even if you're looking at it, it's not there...at least not all there.
> >
> >
> > It's all there as time has passed, but it's not all there while time is passing.
> >
> >
> > You cannot travel into the future because there is no future to travel too..
> >
> >
> > it's not all there..yet.
> >
> > One minute of 'absolute time' is not all there either.
> >
> > If you were to jump one second forward of 'absolute time'..it would be blank,
> >
> > or you would hit a blank wall.
> >
> > You can probably see a half of moon..
> >
> > but the other half..hasn't happen yet.
> >
> >
> > When is the future?
> >
> > The future is Now.
> 
> That is all very nice but it is too vague for me.  Crystalize your conceptions
> 
> maybe.  Time is a phenomenon.  I agree with that part of it.


I'd be happy to explain..

if you're watching a 16mm film
and it breaks in the middle..

you only got to see half the movie.

Closer examination of the broken film
contains a split frame of film..

you see only half the frame.

Or, if you were at the film lab
when the film was processed..
only part of the film has developed..
you will need to wait for the rest of
the film to be developed.

OR!, if you filming the film..
the frames are being exposed
frame be frame...

You watching
as the
world 
developes.

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#463739

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Mark Earnest wrote:
> >
> > On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 12:17:32 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Is the moon there when nobody looks?
> > >
> > > Actually, even if you're looking at it, it's not there...at least not all there.
> > >
> > >
> > > It's all there as time has passed, but it's not all there while time is passing.
> > >
> > >
> > > You cannot travel into the future because there is no future to travel too..
> > >
> > >
> > > it's not all there..yet.
> > >
> > > One minute of 'absolute time' is not all there either.
> > >
> > > If you were to jump one second forward of 'absolute time'..it would be blank,
> > >
> > > or you would hit a blank wall.
> > >
> > > You can probably see a half of moon..
> > >
> > > but the other half..hasn't happen yet.
> > >
> > >
> > > When is the future?
> > >
> > > The future is Now.
> >
> > That is all very nice but it is too vague for me.  Crystalize your conceptions
> >
> > maybe.  Time is a phenomenon.  I agree with that part of it.
> 
> I'd be happy to explain..
> 
> if you're watching a 16mm film
> and it breaks in the middle..
> 
> you only got to see half the movie.
> 
> Closer examination of the broken film
> contains a split frame of film..
> 
> you see only half the frame.
> 
> Or, if you were at the film lab
> when the film was processed..
> only part of the film has developed..
> you will need to wait for the rest of
> the film to be developed.
> 
> OR!, if you filming the film..
> the frames are being exposed
> frame be frame...
> 
> You watching
> as the
> world
> developes.


What I'm gettin at here is..
I don't
understand how anyone
can travel into the future if
it hasn't even happen yet...
not even a second beyond now?

In other words,
there exist a
precise second
that is independent
of all your seconds..
a universal second.

And nothing exist
beyond that
universal second
because..
it hasn't happen yet.

It takes
a lot of
happenings
to complete
a Now, even
though it is
never completed.

The undeveloped
film in the camera
is still running...


I can see the future..and it isn't there.

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#463770

Mark Earnest wrote:
> 
> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 1:13:48 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Mark Earnest wrote:
> > >
> > > On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 12:17:32 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > Is the moon there when nobody looks?
> > > >
> > > > Actually, even if you're looking at it, it's not there...at least not all there.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It's all there as time has passed, but it's not all there while time is passing.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You cannot travel into the future because there is no future to travel too..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > it's not all there..yet.
> > > >
> > > > One minute of 'absolute time' is not all there either.
> > > >
> > > > If you were to jump one second forward of 'absolute time'..it would be blank,
> > > >
> > > > or you would hit a blank wall.
> > > >
> > > > You can probably see a half of moon..
> > > >
> > > > but the other half..hasn't happen yet.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > When is the future?
> > > >
> > > > The future is Now.
> > >
> > > That is all very nice but it is too vague for me.  Crystalize your conceptions
> > >
> > > maybe.  Time is a phenomenon.  I agree with that part of it.
> >
> >
> > I'd be happy to explain..
> >
> > if you're watching a 16mm film
> > and it breaks in the middle..
> >
> > you only got to see half the movie.
> >
> > Closer examination of the broken film
> > contains a split frame of film..
> >
> > you see only half the frame.
> >
> > Or, if you were at the film lab
> > when the film was processed..
> > only part of the film has developed..
> > you will need to wait for the rest of
> > the film to be developed.
> >
> > OR!, if you filming the film..
> > the frames are being exposed
> > frame be frame...
> >
> > You watching
> > as the
> > world
> > developes.
> 
> So whatever happens is already there even before it even happens.  



No, that is not what I said...

I said one second ahead is unexposed film.

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#463771

On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 5:53:14 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> Mark Earnest wrote:
> > 
> > On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 1:13:48 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Mark Earnest wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 12:17:32 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > Is the moon there when nobody looks?
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually, even if you're looking at it, it's not there...at least not all there.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It's all there as time has passed, but it's not all there while time is passing.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You cannot travel into the future because there is no future to travel too..
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > it's not all there..yet.
> > > > >
> > > > > One minute of 'absolute time' is not all there either.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you were to jump one second forward of 'absolute time'..it would be blank,
> > > > >
> > > > > or you would hit a blank wall.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can probably see a half of moon..
> > > > >
> > > > > but the other half..hasn't happen yet.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > When is the future?
> > > > >
> > > > > The future is Now.
> > > >
> > > > That is all very nice but it is too vague for me.  Crystalize your conceptions
> > > >
> > > > maybe.  Time is a phenomenon.  I agree with that part of it.
> > >
> > >
> > > I'd be happy to explain..
> > >
> > > if you're watching a 16mm film
> > > and it breaks in the middle..
> > >
> > > you only got to see half the movie.
> > >
> > > Closer examination of the broken film
> > > contains a split frame of film..
> > >
> > > you see only half the frame.
> > >
> > > Or, if you were at the film lab
> > > when the film was processed..
> > > only part of the film has developed..
> > > you will need to wait for the rest of
> > > the film to be developed.
> > >
> > > OR!, if you filming the film..
> > > the frames are being exposed
> > > frame be frame...
> > >
> > > You watching
> > > as the
> > > world
> > > developes.
> > 
> > So whatever happens is already there even before it even happens.  

Einstein's predetermined order... in space and time order...

> 
> 
> No, that is not what I said...
> 
> I said one second ahead is unexposed film.

In the now... it can remain unexposed or not...

Mitchell Raemsch

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#463849

Mark Earnest wrote:
> 
> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 7:53:13 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Mark Earnest wrote:
> > >
> > > On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 1:13:48 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > Mark Earnest wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 12:17:32 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > Is the moon there when nobody looks?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Actually, even if you're looking at it, it's not there...at least not all there.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's all there as time has passed, but it's not all there while time is passing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You cannot travel into the future because there is no future to travel too..
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > it's not all there..yet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One minute of 'absolute time' is not all there either.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you were to jump one second forward of 'absolute time'..it would be blank,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > or you would hit a blank wall.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can probably see a half of moon..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > but the other half..hasn't happen yet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When is the future?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The future is Now.
> > > > >
> > > > > That is all very nice but it is too vague for me.  Crystalize your conceptions
> > > > >
> > > > > maybe.  Time is a phenomenon.  I agree with that part of it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'd be happy to explain..
> > > >
> > > > if you're watching a 16mm film
> > > > and it breaks in the middle..
> > > >
> > > > you only got to see half the movie.
> > > >
> > > > Closer examination of the broken film
> > > > contains a split frame of film..
> > > >
> > > > you see only half the frame.
> > > >
> > > > Or, if you were at the film lab
> > > > when the film was processed..
> > > > only part of the film has developed..
> > > > you will need to wait for the rest of
> > > > the film to be developed.
> > > >
> > > > OR!, if you filming the film..
> > > > the frames are being exposed
> > > > frame be frame...
> > > >
> > > > You watching
> > > > as the
> > > > world
> > > > developes.
> > >
> > > So whatever happens is already there even before it even happens.
> >
> >
> >
> > No, that is not what I said...
> >
> > I said one second ahead is unexposed film.
> 
> Then I give up trying to understand you.  


You mustn't confine yourself to the english language...you need
pictures.


You take a poloroid camera
and take a picture..
it takes a few minutes 
for the print to develop
right before your
very eyes.

If you jump
into the future
it's all blank..
and you have to wait a few minutes
to see...the universe
and everything in it.

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#463868

Are you there when nobody looks?

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#463748

The Starmaker escrito 
Is the moon there when nobody looks? 

The Ocean Tides Have no Eyes & Always follow the Moon

Take your Mystical Brain Farts and Go....

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#463764

David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker escrito
> Is the moon there when nobody looks?
> 
> The Ocean Tides Have no Eyes & Always follow the Moon


If nobody is looking...how would you know?

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#463750

On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 10:17:32 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> Is the moon there when nobody looks?
> 

Its light is still arriving...
otherwise we couldn't look at it again...

who can argue...?

Mitchell Raemsch

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#463773

The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> Wrote in message:
> Is the moon there when nobody looks?

Is there The Starmaker there when nobody looks ? 
Probably not...

Is there a fighter airplane there
when nobody listens  ? 
Probably not...  
And if one listens, there is no airplane where one hears it.

What a pseudoproblem .....


> 
> Actually, even if you're looking at it, it's not there...at least not all there.
> 
> 
> It's all there as time has passed, but it's not all there while time is passing.
> 
> 
> You cannot travel into the future because there is no future to travel too..
> 
> 
> it's not all there..yet.
> 
> One minute of 'absolute time' is not all there either.
> 
> If you were to jump one second forward of 'absolute time'..it would be blank,
> 
> or you would hit a blank wall.
> 
> You can probably see a half of moon..
> 
> but the other half..hasn't happen yet.
> 
> 
> When is the future?
> 
> The future is Now.
> 


-- 
Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer)

"Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity."
Miloš Forman


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#463774

Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> wrote in
news:phs3ut$uko$1@dont-email.me: 

> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> Wrote in message:
>> Is the moon there when nobody looks?
> 
> Is there The Starmaker there when nobody looks ? 

Who cares?

Is it there when somebody *is* looking?

Again, who cares?

-- 
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#463776

On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 9:32:40 PM UTC-7, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
> Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> wrote in
> news:phs3ut$uko$1@dont-email.me: 
> 
> > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> Wrote in message:
> >> Is the moon there when nobody looks?
> > 
> > Is there The Starmaker there when nobody looks ? 
> 
> Who cares?
> 
> Is it there when somebody *is* looking?
> 
> Again, who cares?
> 
> -- 
> Terry Austin
> 
> "Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
>     -- David Bilek
> 
> Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

The world of Quantum Mechanics argued about it with Einstein.
It was called Observer Created Reality. That looking at something
you determine what it is. Einstein won that argument.


There is a light order phenomenon that replaces the
old Quantum Mechanical philosophy (not science) known as the
Copenhagen Interpretation OCR in the Two Slit experiment.
It is not looking at a wave-particle after it is at
the two holes that turns it into a particle.
It is a new light order phenomenon with wave-particle.
Light wave collapses the wave function of the particles
giving the detected order...

Mitchell Raemsch

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