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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2016-12-30 11:19 -0800 |
| Last post | 2017-01-14 09:53 -0800 |
| Articles | 11 on this page of 151 — 29 participants |
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Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 11:19 -0800
Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-30 11:33 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-31 07:54 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Tiffany Wuest <eesio@esufsi.info> - 2016-12-30 21:03 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-31 15:20 +0100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Tiffany Wuest <eesio@esufsi.info> - 2016-12-31 14:31 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 13:13 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-30 13:16 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2016-12-30 12:55 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-30 13:04 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-31 06:59 +0100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-31 06:06 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-31 06:15 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-31 06:48 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 13:20 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-12-30 21:30 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-30 15:24 -0700
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 20:25 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 20:28 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "chwilozof" <nieznajome@att.com> - 2016-12-30 16:33 -0500
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-30 14:25 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-30 16:18 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-30 16:31 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-31 13:03 +1100
How to travel in time Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-12-31 02:38 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 20:21 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-31 15:32 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 23:05 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-31 19:07 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-31 10:51 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-01 11:44 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-31 17:01 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-31 17:26 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-01 13:10 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:48 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-02 12:03 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 21:07 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-02 16:25 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-02 10:19 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-03 14:54 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-03 21:18 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-04 16:45 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-03 21:53 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-05 11:38 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-05 12:16 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-06 11:19 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-06 11:18 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 16:45 -0700
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-05 17:50 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-06 13:29 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-06 09:13 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-07 11:57 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-10 11:34 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-10 09:14 -0800
Re: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-01-10 17:12 -0500
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-11 22:40 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-11 04:02 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-01-06 00:37 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-06 09:06 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:18 -0700
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-06 09:24 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 10:00 -0700
Re: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-01-07 21:43 -0500
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 16:44 -0700
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Tiffany Wuest <eesio@esufsi.info> - 2016-12-31 07:23 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-31 12:56 -0500
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-31 11:55 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-12-31 20:54 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-31 13:36 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 00:29 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-31 19:02 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-31 20:10 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-01 06:07 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-01 06:55 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-01 11:43 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 06:33 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-01 06:10 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Tiffany Wuest <eesio@esufsi.info> - 2017-01-01 14:56 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 16:43 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-01 11:46 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 21:16 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:58 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-01 11:46 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 06:37 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-31 16:51 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> - 2017-01-01 15:07 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Tiffany Wuest <eesio@esufsi.info> - 2017-01-01 15:47 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Yuri Kretin <invlaid@invalid.com> - 2017-01-01 09:52 -0600
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 16:52 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Yuri Kretin <invlaid@invalid.com> - 2017-01-01 11:16 -0600
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 21:19 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:52 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:50 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-01 23:39 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-31 11:21 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-01-01 19:15 -0500
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:56 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-02 12:14 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-02 06:59 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-03 14:57 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-02 20:31 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Winona Bellard <erli@aeni.no> - 2017-01-02 23:02 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 23:05 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Winona Bellard <erli@aeni.no> - 2017-01-02 23:17 +0000
Winona Bellard, urine good-time girl whore Winona Bellard <erli@aeni.no.deer> - 2017-01-02 23:21 +0000
Re: Winona Bellard, urine good-time girl whore Olinda Metcalfe <efacf@ecMlcn.org> - 2017-01-02 23:33 +0000
Guilt without sex Winona Bellard <erli@aeni.no.pipe> - 2017-01-02 23:22 +0000
Re: Guilt without sex benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-01-02 18:49 -0500
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-03 14:58 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-01-03 18:03 -0500
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sharilyn Vore <inolr@nryowno.an> - 2017-01-09 21:20 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-10 16:53 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-10 06:07 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-10 19:18 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-10 00:28 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-10 14:08 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-10 06:41 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-11 11:46 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-10 23:16 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-11 13:45 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-11 13:41 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-11 06:44 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-11 21:08 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-11 13:19 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-11 23:01 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ward Nusbaum <uqowm@msdmmsuus.org> - 2017-01-11 21:51 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-11 23:09 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-11 23:21 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-12 00:09 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-12 15:25 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-12 07:52 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-12 22:58 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-12 15:11 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-12 08:55 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-12 22:09 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-13 10:39 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-13 22:37 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-13 22:41 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-13 23:00 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-14 15:25 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-14 10:16 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-14 11:18 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-14 21:28 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-13 23:44 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-10 13:47 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-10 09:29 -0800
Re: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-01-10 14:04 -0500
Re: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 11:19 -0700
Re: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-01-01 20:45 -0500
Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-02 07:43 -0800
Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-14 09:53 -0800
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-14 10:16 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <587A6AEE.2BF6@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #405560 |
Ned Latham wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > > > mlwozniak wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Twaddle. Time is a noumenon. It has no substance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So is the distance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. Distance is length, a dimension of space. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The idea of time travel is as absurd as the idea of number travel. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing absurd about space travel. Any distance at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't space and time the same....space? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course not. Evewn the comedian One Stone had to postulate time as > > > > > > > different than space. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the earth is traveling around in circles.. > > > > > > > > then i'm traveling in space... > > > > > > > > but in circles... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You do that standing still. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's why it's the same day every day...today. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Todays' today today; > > > > > > > Today's tomorrow yesterday; > > > > > > > Today's yesterday tomorrow; > > > > > > > Tomorrow's today tomorrow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > it's today now.. > > > > > > > > > > In your mind. > > > > > > > > > > > come back tomorrow, it's still be today. > > > > > > > > > > In your mind. > > > > > > > > > > You just don't get it, do you? It's what I said: all in the mind > > > > > of man. And the occasional wannbe. > > > > > > > > I just looked again, it's still today... > > > > > > In your mind. > > > > No, I don't get it. > > That's because it's in your mind. > > > It's either in my mind, > > That's it: in your nind. > > > or...it is independent of the observer, > > Not possible. It's all in the mind. > > > which is it???? > > In your mind. So, what you are saying is that Time is not physics, it's psychology, psychological, physlosphy. Then, what is this Time twin paradox talk about...older and younger twins...that's phyics isn't it?
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| From | "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-14 11:18 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <09455a88-1d97-4445-820b-544eaf952414@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #405586 |
So, what you are saying is that Time is not physics, it's psychology, psychological, physlosphy. Then, what is this Time twin paradox talk about...older and younger twins...that's phyics isn't it? Time is Entropy The (origin of the expansion of entropy) is (spatially every) Kinetic Energy & Entopy are (Inversely proportional to each other) https://goo.gl/photos/xpWGDkiZuskac2QK8
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2017-01-14 21:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno7l5vl.j9.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #405586 |
The Starmaker wrote: > Ned Latham wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > > > > mlwozniak wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Twaddle. Time is a noumenon. It has no substance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So is the distance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. Distance is length, a dimension of space. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The idea of time travel is as absurd as the > > > > > > > > > > idea of number travel. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing absurd about space travel. > > > > > > > > > > Any distance at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't space and time the same....space? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course not. Even the comedian One Stone had to > > > > > > > > postulate time as different than space. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the earth is traveling around in circles.. > > > > > > > > > then i'm traveling in space... > > > > > > > > > but in circles... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You do that standing still. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's why it's the same day every day...today. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Todays' today today; > > > > > > > > Today's tomorrow yesterday; > > > > > > > > Today's yesterday tomorrow; > > > > > > > > Tomorrow's today tomorrow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's today now.. > > > > > > > > > > > > In your mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > come back tomorrow, it's still be today. > > > > > > > > > > > > In your mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > You just don't get it, do you? It's what I said: all in > > > > > > the mind of man. And the occasional wannbe. > > > > > > > > > > I just looked again, it's still today... > > > > > > > > In your mind. > > > > > > No, I don't get it. > > > > That's because it's in your mind. > > > > > It's either in my mind, > > > > That's it: in your nind. > > > > > or...it is independent of the observer, > > > > Not possible. It's all in the mind. > > > > > which is it???? > > > > In your mind. > > So, what you are saying is that Time is not physics, Yep. > it's psychology, psychological, physlosphy. No, no, and no (love that third one). Like number, it is a mental tool we use for organizing our weltanshaung. > Then, what is this Time twin paradox talk about...older and younger > twins...that's phyics isn't it? What paradox? Twins don't emerge from the birth canal simultaneously. Ned
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-13 23:44 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <5879D6F3.331F@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #405500 |
Ned Latham wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > mlwozniak wrote: > > > > > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Twaddle. Time is a noumenon. It has no substance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So is the distance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. Distance is length, a dimension of space. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The idea of time travel is as absurd as the idea of number travel. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing absurd about space travel. Any distance at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't space and time the same....space? > > > > > > > > > > Of course not. Evewn the comedian One Stone had to postulate time as > > > > > different than space. > > > > > > > > > > > If the earth is traveling around in circles.. > > > > > > then i'm traveling in space... > > > > > > but in circles... > > > > > > > > > > You do that standing still. > > > > > > > > > > > that's why it's the same day every day...today. > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. > > > > > > > > > > Todays' today today; > > > > > Today's tomorrow yesterday; > > > > > Today's yesterday tomorrow; > > > > > Tomorrow's today tomorrow. > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > it's today now.. > > > > > > In your mind. > > > > > > > come back tomorrow, it's still be today. > > > > > > In your mind. > > > > > > You just don't get it, do you? It's what I said: all in the mind > > > of man. And the occasional wannbe. > > > > I just looked again, it's still today... > > In your mind. My clock tells me the time it is now...i don't have a....tomorrow clock.
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2017-01-10 13:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno79pfr.1mh.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #404896 |
Sylvia Else wrote: > Ned Latham wrote: > > Sylvia Else wrote: > > > Sharilyn Vore wrote: > > > > Sylvia Else wrote: > > > > ----snip---- > > > > > > > Are you under the impression that arguing about semantics (or even > > > > > just the meaning of words) contributes anything to our knowledge > > > > > in this area? > > > > > > > > That's not semantics, lady. Read again. The thing is absurd, end of > > > > story. > > > > > > You're not advancing your position very much. > > > > It doesn't need "advancing". > > > > > What exactly is it that you think is absurd, > > > > The idea of time travel. > > > > > and why? > > > > Time is a noumenon, like number. It exists only in the mind of man. > > And you know this because...? I have a mind. And I looked. And there it is. Vastly useful and completely insubstantial. Just like number.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-10 09:29 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <58751A0B.6D@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #404885 |
Sylvia Else wrote: > > On 10/01/2017 8:20 AM, Sharilyn Vore wrote: > > Sylvia Else wrote: > > > >>>> It's the outcome if a time traveller causes a branch in the past, but > >>>> returns to his original time line when he goes back to the future. > >>> > >>> Cant go back to a future. Absurd contradiction. > >>> > >> Are you under the impression that arguing about semantics (or even just > >> the meaning of words) contributes anything to our knowledge in this > >> area? > > > > That's not semantics, lady. Read again. The thing is absurd, end of story. > > > > You're not advancing your position very much. What exactly is it that > you think is absurd, and why? > > Sylvia. Ever heard the expression...never look back? It's very simple, traveling back in time is not possible because Nature does not allow it. It doesn't even encourage you to look back... and if you try..bad things happen.
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| From | Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2017-01-10 14:04 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <cv9a7clkknm83dov2cktheldt9p6f4seur@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #404965 |
... >It's very simple, traveling back in time is not possible because Nature does not allow it. Starmaker: You seem to have some sort of "a priori" objection to the possibility of time travel backward (and forward?). You say nature does not allow it, but we don't know the entirety of what nature does and does not allow currently not to mention what it might allow in the future. Some of nature (e.g. the future) has yet to exist. You could say that the whole point of having science/physics is to discover some inviolable "rules" that do not change in time. I agree with that goal, but we don't know that we have discovered all of those "rules" and/or that we have specified them precisely (i.e got them all correct). Let me put it this way. Suppose I am designing a "nature/universe" or watching it be designed. Time travel adds options so I would include it if I could. Being able to travel in time does not mean anyone or anything must travel in time so the consistency of the universe/timeline could be safeguarded by putting restrictions on time travel (backward) without completely eliminating it. I've spent considerable time trying to determine what those restrictions might be in order to maintain a consistent timeline/universe. >It doesn't even encourage you to look back... > >and if you try..bad things happen. Is one of the "bad things" that happen when you look back, learning and refining knowledge obtained in the past? Would you rather not be able to "look back" (i.e. have memories) that help you avoid repeating past mistakes so that you can have only "good things happening" constantly. How do you measure the "goodness" of these present things if you have no memory of "bad things" to compare them too (lol). Mike See you at the show trials - lol. --------------------------------------------------- Michael J. Strickland Reston, VA ---------------------------------------------------
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| From | Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-10 11:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA6F9734838678taustingmail@69.16.179.42> |
| In reply to | #404986 |
You are arguing with a retard who likely can't tie his own shows.
You're feeding the troll.
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| From | Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2017-01-01 20:45 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mcbj6cl8igf2c53jbva1thum67uo8lkijg@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #403747 |
On Sun, 01 Jan 2017 16:56:01 -0800, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >Michael J. Strickland wrote: >> >> On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:19:46 -0800, The Starmaker >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >> >> >lets say >> >you travel back in time >> >in a time machine and your >> >time machine lands on your >> >grandfather and kills him... >> > >> > >> >Time Travel Is Not Possible. >> >> And...? >> >> I don't claim (or know) if "time travel" back in time is possible, I'm >> just pointing out that your evidence/argument does not preclude it. >> >> Your old "grandfather/father/? paradox" is easily disposed of but >> there are some other difficulties which have to be overcome if you >> travel to the past and then return to the present. >> >> In your example, if your grandfather is alive in the present before >> you leave for the past, the grandfather you fall on in the past dies >> but that doesn't affect the grandfather you have when you return to >> the present. He is a separate entity. He is just as you left him >> (alive). Obviously he could have coincidentally died while you were >> "neglecting/relieving" him by traveling in time (lol) but it would >> have nothing to do with anything you did in the past to his earlier >> entity. > >THAT IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS THING I EVER HEARD! > > >I guess it gets more ridiculous if i continue reading..(if you follow >the second law) Second Law of Thermodynamics (Google/Wikipedia): The second law of thermodynamics states that the total entropy of an isolated system always increases over time, or remains constant in ideal cases where the system is in a steady state or undergoing a reversible process. Entropy decreases with time regularly in closed systems (non-infinite regions enclosing a time machine and its "range" of operation). The only price is some energy (provided by maybe a ... time machine?). Maybe we would call it a "Negative Entropy Machine" for the imagination deficient such as you Mr. "RIDICULOUS" (lol). My theory avoids those worrisome and terrifying possibilities of someone going into the past and destroying something you cherish (like your glorious record of total bullshit, regurgitated half-truths, and invalid assumptions censored by whatever brand of self-brainwashing you have willingly inflicted on yourself - lol. ---------------------------------------------------------------- My canned last word post: This is my last post/reply on this subject so if you want the last word, read no further. Please don't construe this as a sign of surrender or defeat. Let's just consider it a temporary truce and we can resume the "debate" later on another thread/topic. Feel free to add any number of additional posts below. This is just a notice that I will not read them. I'm sure any wider audience that may be interested will be highly entertained as you "vanquish" me in my absence (lol). See you at the show trials - lol. --------------------------------------------------- Michael J. Strickland Reston, VA ---------------------------------------------------
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| From | "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-02 07:43 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <326c1f21-eabd-4e1a-bff5-91417895ee2c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #403503 |
The Star-Sharter wrote: lets say you travel back in time in a time machine and your time machine lands on your grandfather and kills him... Time Travel Is Not Possible. I think I saw a Twilight Zone episode like that This guy steals a time machine but does not know how to properly use it The idiot reduces his entire existence to a permanently repeating 3 second time loop of the man realizing his mistake, terror of realizing he is going to be blown up & then be stuck in an eternal repeating time loop
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| From | "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-14 09:53 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <0d35b824-052b-42b1-8bc2-2e388e91b77c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #403503 |
Time travel back into the past would take the quantity of Energy necessary to create a Whole New Different Universe Time travel back into the past would take the quantity of Energy necessary to Thermalize away all the information left for the time period traveled back into the past.
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