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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2016-12-30 11:19 -0800 |
| Last post | 2017-01-14 09:53 -0800 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 151 — 29 participants |
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Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 11:19 -0800
Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-30 11:33 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-31 07:54 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Tiffany Wuest <eesio@esufsi.info> - 2016-12-30 21:03 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-31 15:20 +0100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Tiffany Wuest <eesio@esufsi.info> - 2016-12-31 14:31 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 13:13 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-30 13:16 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2016-12-30 12:55 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-30 13:04 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-31 06:59 +0100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-31 06:06 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-31 06:15 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-31 06:48 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 13:20 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-12-30 21:30 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-30 15:24 -0700
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 20:25 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 20:28 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "chwilozof" <nieznajome@att.com> - 2016-12-30 16:33 -0500
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-30 14:25 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-30 16:18 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-30 16:31 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-31 13:03 +1100
How to travel in time Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-12-31 02:38 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 20:21 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-31 15:32 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 23:05 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-31 19:07 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-31 10:51 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-01 11:44 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-31 17:01 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-31 17:26 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-01 13:10 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:48 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-02 12:03 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 21:07 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-02 16:25 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-02 10:19 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-03 14:54 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-03 21:18 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-04 16:45 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-03 21:53 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-05 11:38 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-05 12:16 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-06 11:19 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-06 11:18 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 16:45 -0700
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-05 17:50 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-06 13:29 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-06 09:13 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-07 11:57 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-10 11:34 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-10 09:14 -0800
Re: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-01-10 17:12 -0500
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-11 22:40 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-11 04:02 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-01-06 00:37 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-06 09:06 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:18 -0700
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-06 09:24 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 10:00 -0700
Re: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-01-07 21:43 -0500
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 16:44 -0700
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Tiffany Wuest <eesio@esufsi.info> - 2016-12-31 07:23 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-31 12:56 -0500
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-31 11:55 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-12-31 20:54 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-31 13:36 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 00:29 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-31 19:02 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-31 20:10 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-01 06:07 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-01 06:55 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-01 11:43 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 06:33 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-01 06:10 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Tiffany Wuest <eesio@esufsi.info> - 2017-01-01 14:56 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 16:43 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-01 11:46 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 21:16 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:58 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-01 11:46 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 06:37 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-31 16:51 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> - 2017-01-01 15:07 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Tiffany Wuest <eesio@esufsi.info> - 2017-01-01 15:47 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Yuri Kretin <invlaid@invalid.com> - 2017-01-01 09:52 -0600
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 16:52 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Yuri Kretin <invlaid@invalid.com> - 2017-01-01 11:16 -0600
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 21:19 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:52 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:50 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-01 23:39 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-31 11:21 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-01-01 19:15 -0500
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:56 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-02 12:14 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-02 06:59 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-03 14:57 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-02 20:31 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Winona Bellard <erli@aeni.no> - 2017-01-02 23:02 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 23:05 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Winona Bellard <erli@aeni.no> - 2017-01-02 23:17 +0000
Winona Bellard, urine good-time girl whore Winona Bellard <erli@aeni.no.deer> - 2017-01-02 23:21 +0000
Re: Winona Bellard, urine good-time girl whore Olinda Metcalfe <efacf@ecMlcn.org> - 2017-01-02 23:33 +0000
Guilt without sex Winona Bellard <erli@aeni.no.pipe> - 2017-01-02 23:22 +0000
Re: Guilt without sex benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-01-02 18:49 -0500
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-03 14:58 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-01-03 18:03 -0500
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sharilyn Vore <inolr@nryowno.an> - 2017-01-09 21:20 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-10 16:53 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-10 06:07 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-10 19:18 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-10 00:28 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-10 14:08 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-10 06:41 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-11 11:46 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-10 23:16 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-11 13:45 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-11 13:41 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-11 06:44 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-11 21:08 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-11 13:19 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-11 23:01 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ward Nusbaum <uqowm@msdmmsuus.org> - 2017-01-11 21:51 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-11 23:09 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-11 23:21 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-12 00:09 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-12 15:25 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-12 07:52 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-12 22:58 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-12 15:11 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-12 08:55 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-12 22:09 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-13 10:39 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-13 22:37 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-13 22:41 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-13 23:00 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-14 15:25 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-14 10:16 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-14 11:18 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-14 21:28 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-13 23:44 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-10 13:47 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-10 09:29 -0800
Re: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-01-10 14:04 -0500
Re: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 11:19 -0700
Re: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-01-01 20:45 -0500
Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-02 07:43 -0800
Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-14 09:53 -0800
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2017-01-11 13:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno7cdgn.6gn.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #405040 |
Sylvia Else wrote: > Ned Latham wrote: > > mlwozniak wrote: > > > Sylvia Else wrote: > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > Sylvia Else wrote: > > > > > > Sharilyn Vore wrote: > > > > > > > Sylvia Else wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ----snip---- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you under the impression that arguing about semantics > > > > > > > > (or even just the meaning of words) contributes anything > > > > > > > > to our knowledge in this area? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's not semantics, lady. Read again. The thing is absurd, > > > > > > > end of story. > > > > > > > > > > > > You're not advancing your position very much. > > > > > > > > > > It doesn't beed "advancing". > > > > > > > > > > > What exactly is it that you think is absurd, > > > > > > > > > > The idea of time travel. > > > > > > > > > > > and why? > > > > > > > > > > Time is a noumenon, like number. It exists only in the mind of > > > > > man. > > > > > > > > And you know this because...? > > > > > > Because he thinks. > > > > Yikes! The dumb Polack got something right! > > > > > He is not good at it, > > > > Well, that didn't last long, did it? > > > > > but this conclusion doesn't require much. > > > > Like number, you can't sense it, you can't wield it, and you can't > > break it. That's because it has no substance. Kinda like number. > > > > Have you heard of number. Sylvia? It's a noumenon, like time. > > It exists only in the mind of man. > > Repeating that doesn't make it any more true. Kerist, you're slow. Get yourself an irony implant. > We measure things using numbers, because it's convenient. Wrong. We measure things using number, because it's convenient. > That does not in itself mean that the thing measured is inherently > numerical. Wrong. That does not in any way imply that number is a phenomenon. Now extend it. Replace "number" with "time" and "things" with "events". > While I don't actually dispute that time travel is impossible, proof of > the impossibility has not been forthcoming. At best, some of the paradox > arguments suggest that it's impossible if time has a subset of the > conceivable properties, but we don't know that time does. Twaddle. Time is a noumenon. It has no substance. The idea of time travel is as absurd as the idea of number travel.
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| From | mlwozniak@wp.pl |
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| Date | 2017-01-11 06:44 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <95673e0d-2903-4c18-abb7-f8a6e0cd9146@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #405097 |
W dniu środa, 11 stycznia 2017 14:41:48 UTC+1 użytkownik Ned Latham napisał: > Twaddle. Time is a noumenon. It has no substance. So is the distance. > The idea of time > travel is as absurd as the idea of number travel.
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2017-01-11 21:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno7d7lk.j4s.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #405106 |
mlwozniak wrote: > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > Twaddle. Time is a noumenon. It has no substance. > > So is the distance. Wrong. Distance is length, a dimension of space. > > The idea of time travel is as absurd as the idea of number travel. Nothing absurd about space travel. Any distance at all.
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| From | "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-11 13:19 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <940b13e4-d35e-45ae-afa5-ed12877901dc@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #405166 |
3:08 PMNed Latham mlwozniak wrote: > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > Twaddle. Time is a noumenon. It has no substance. > > So is the distance. Wrong. Distance is length, a dimension of space. http://www.kleinbottle.com/images/Double_Klein_Bottle_2.jpg
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2017-01-11 23:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno7deat.m84.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #405170 |
David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote: > Ned Latham wrote > > mlwozniak wrote: > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > Twaddle. Time is a noumenon. It has no substance. > > > > So is the distance. > > Wrong. Distance is length, a dimension of space. > > http://www.kleinbottle.com/images/Double_Klein_Bottle_2.jpg We can draw dragons too. So what?
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| From | Ward Nusbaum <uqowm@msdmmsuus.org> |
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| Date | 2017-01-11 21:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <o569d2$16vm$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #405166 |
Ned Latham wrote: > mlwozniak wrote: >> Ned Latham wrote: >> > >> > Twaddle. Time is a noumenon. It has no substance. >> >> So is the distance. > > Wrong. Distance is length, a dimension of space. Which one of them?
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2017-01-11 23:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno7deom.m84.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #405176 |
Ward Nusbaum wrote in <o569d2$16vm$1@gioia.aioe.org>: > Ned Latham wrote: > > mlwozniak wrote: > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > > Twaddle. Time is a noumenon. It has no substance. > > > > > > So is the distance. > > > > Wrong. Distance is length, a dimension of space. > > Which one of them? All of them.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-11 23:21 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <58772E85.4B09@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #405166 |
Ned Latham wrote: > > mlwozniak wrote: > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > Twaddle. Time is a noumenon. It has no substance. > > > > So is the distance. > > Wrong. Distance is length, a dimension of space. > > > > The idea of time travel is as absurd as the idea of number travel. > > Nothing absurd about space travel. Any distance at all. Isn't space and time the same....space? If the earth is traveling around in circles.. then i'm traveling in space... but in circles... that's why it's the same day every day...today.
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| From | "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-12 00:09 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <e07bc097-976a-4ba7-bab0-7e9459da37d6@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #405223 |
1:21 AMThe Starmaker - hide quoted text - Ned Latham wrote: > > mlwozniak wrote: > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > Twaddle. Time is a noumenon. It has no substance. > > > > So is the distance. > > Wrong. Distance is length, a dimension of space. > > > > The idea of time travel is as absurd as the idea of number travel. > > Nothing absurd about space travel. Any distance at all. Isn't space and time the same....space? 1/Time = Space 1/Space = Time http://www.kleinbottle.com/images/Double_Klein_Bottle_2.jpg
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2017-01-12 15:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno7f7vg.ekf.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #405226 |
David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote: > The Starmaker wrote: > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > mlwozniak wrote: > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Twaddle. Time is a noumenon. It has no substance. > > > > > > > > So is the distance. > > > > > > Wrong. Distance is length, a dimension of space. > > > > > > > > The idea of time travel is as absurd as the idea of number travel. > > > > > > Nothing absurd about space travel. Any distance at all. It'd be nice if you'd bother yourself get the Attrution lines right, Fuller. > > Isn't space and time the same....space? That's "aren't" if you're trying to speak Enfligh. > > 1/Time = Space > > 1/Space = Time Pffft. Space-time is a posdtulated contimuum in which space and time aree two entirely different things. In reality (as opposed to the wet dreams of wannabe physicists), space is a continuum, time is a noumenon. > http://www.kleinbottle.com/images/Double_Klein_Bottle_2.jpg You're repeating ypouself. As I said last time you posted that fantasion, we can also draw dragons. So what? Ned
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| From | "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-12 07:52 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <c7bc9c24-4d9e-4118-b4f6-c4d21d09869d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #405272 |
Ned Latham Gibbered: David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote: > The Starmaker wrote: > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > mlwozniak wrote: > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Twaddle. Time is a noumenon. It has no substance. > > > > > > > > So is the distance. > > > > > > Wrong. Distance is length, a dimension of space. > > > > > > > > The idea of time travel is as absurd as the idea of number travel. > > > > > > Nothing absurd about space travel. Any distance at all. It'd be nice if you'd bother yourself get the Attrution lines right, Fuller. Don't care at all.. > > Isn't space and time the same....space? That's "aren't" if you're trying to speak Enfligh. Why are busting my balls for someone else's spelling ? Besides, this is a Physics Forum not a spelling & Grammar forum. > > 1/Time = Space > > 1/Space = Time Pffft. Space-time is a posdtulated contimuum in which space and time aree two entirely different things. In reality (as opposed to the wet dreams of wannabe physicists), space is a continuum, time is a noumenon. So..... you are smarter than Mr Albert Einstein now and know better than the originator ?? > http://www.kleinbottle.com/images/Double_Klein_Bottle_2.jpg You're repeating ypouself. As I said last time you posted that fantasion, we can also draw dragons. So what? Ned Yeah..... teachers repeat themselves, because some students are Slow learners. Space & Time are Isometries of one another This should be completely obvious to anyone who looks upon GR, SR, or EPR if they even have a tiny bit of capacity for rational thought
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2017-01-12 22:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno7g2gb.p41.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #405273 |
David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote: > Ned Latham wrote: > > David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote: > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > mlwozniak wrote: > > > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Twaddle. Time is a noumenon. It has no substance. > > > > > > > > > > > > So is the distance. > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. Distance is length, a dimension of space. > > > > > > > > > > > > The idea of time travel is as absurd as the idea of number travel. > > > > > > > > > > Nothing absurd about space travel. Any distance at all. > > > > It'd be nice if you'd bother yourself get the Attribution lines right, > > Fuller. > > Don't care at all.. Mental retardation indicator noted. > > > > Isn't space and time the same....space? > > > > That's "aren't" if you're trying to speak Enfligh. > > Why are busting my balls for someone else's spelling? Who says I'm busting *your* balls over it? Read the Attribution lines, moron. Oh, that's right: you can 't. You're too fuckin' stupid. Well, you'll just have to take my word for it that the comment was aimed at The Starmaker, and that it's perfectly obvious to anyone who can read the Atttibutions because I fixed them up. And again. Aren't *I* a really, really nice person. > Besides, this is a Physics Forum not a spelling & Grammar forum. Get your head out of your arse. Natural languages are communications protocols and cognition shapers. Get the protocol wrong and you fuck both your thinking and your communications. You can consider yourself an example of that. > > > > 1/Time = Space > > > > 1/Space = Time > > > > Pffft. Space-time is a posdtulated contimuum in which space and time > > aree two entirely different things. > > > > In reality (as opposed to the wet dreams of wannabe physicists), > > space is a continuum, time is a noumenon. > > So..... you are smarter than Mr Albert Einstein Who's he? > now and know better > than the originator ?? What originator? Originator of what? > > > http://www.kleinbottle.com/images/Double_Klein_Bottle_2.jpg > > > > You're repeating ypouself. As I said last time you posted that > > fantasion, we can also draw dragons. So what? > > Yeah..... teachers repeat themselves, Here, you're not a teacher. Nor elsewhere, it is to be hoped. > because some students are Slow learners. You're not that either. Can't be slow at something you don't do at all. And you didn't answer the question: "we can also draw dragons. So what?" ----wannbe physicist's wet dream waffle snipped----
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2017-01-12 15:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno7f75o.ekf.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #405223 |
The Starmaker wrote: > Ned Latham wrote: > > mlwozniak wrote: > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > > Twaddle. Time is a noumenon. It has no substance. > > > > > > So is the distance. > > > > Wrong. Distance is length, a dimension of space. > > > > > > The idea of time travel is as absurd as the idea of number travel. > > > > Nothing absurd about space travel. Any distance at all. > > Isn't space and time the same....space? Of course not. Evewn the comedian One Stone had to postulate time as different than space. > If the earth is traveling around in circles.. > then i'm traveling in space... > but in circles... You do that standing still. > that's why it's the same day every day...today. Wrong. Todays' today today; Today's tomorrow yesterday; Today's yesterday tomorrow; Tomorrow's today tomorrow. ...
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-12 08:55 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <5877B4EC.4771@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #405270 |
Ned Latham wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > mlwozniak wrote: > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Twaddle. Time is a noumenon. It has no substance. > > > > > > > > So is the distance. > > > > > > Wrong. Distance is length, a dimension of space. > > > > > > > > The idea of time travel is as absurd as the idea of number travel. > > > > > > Nothing absurd about space travel. Any distance at all. > > > > Isn't space and time the same....space? > > Of course not. Evewn the comedian One Stone had to postulate time as > different than space. > > > If the earth is traveling around in circles.. > > then i'm traveling in space... > > but in circles... > > You do that standing still. > > > that's why it's the same day every day...today. > > Wrong. > > Todays' today today; > Today's tomorrow yesterday; > Today's yesterday tomorrow; > Tomorrow's today tomorrow. > > ... it's today now.. come back tomorrow, it's still be today.
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2017-01-12 22:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno7fvki.p41.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #405302 |
The Starmaker wrote: > Ned Latham wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > mlwozniak wrote: > > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Twaddle. Time is a noumenon. It has no substance. > > > > > > > > > > So is the distance. > > > > > > > > Wrong. Distance is length, a dimension of space. > > > > > > > > > > The idea of time travel is as absurd as the idea of number travel. > > > > > > > > Nothing absurd about space travel. Any distance at all. > > > > > > Isn't space and time the same....space? > > > > Of course not. Evewn the comedian One Stone had to postulate time as > > different than space. > > > > > If the earth is traveling around in circles.. > > > then i'm traveling in space... > > > but in circles... > > > > You do that standing still. > > > > > that's why it's the same day every day...today. > > > > Wrong. > > > > Todays' today today; > > Today's tomorrow yesterday; > > Today's yesterday tomorrow; > > Tomorrow's today tomorrow. > > > > ... > > it's today now.. In your mind. > come back tomorrow, it's still be today. In your mind. You just don't get it, do you? It's what I said: all in the mind of man. And the occasional wannbe.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-13 10:39 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <58791EF0.3C31@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #405363 |
Ned Latham wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > mlwozniak wrote: > > > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Twaddle. Time is a noumenon. It has no substance. > > > > > > > > > > > > So is the distance. > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. Distance is length, a dimension of space. > > > > > > > > > > > > The idea of time travel is as absurd as the idea of number travel. > > > > > > > > > > Nothing absurd about space travel. Any distance at all. > > > > > > > > Isn't space and time the same....space? > > > > > > Of course not. Evewn the comedian One Stone had to postulate time as > > > different than space. > > > > > > > If the earth is traveling around in circles.. > > > > then i'm traveling in space... > > > > but in circles... > > > > > > You do that standing still. > > > > > > > that's why it's the same day every day...today. > > > > > > Wrong. > > > > > > Todays' today today; > > > Today's tomorrow yesterday; > > > Today's yesterday tomorrow; > > > Tomorrow's today tomorrow. > > > > > > ... > > > > it's today now.. > > In your mind. > > > come back tomorrow, it's still be today. > > In your mind. > > You just don't get it, do you? It's what I said: all in the mind > of man. And the occasional wannbe. I just looked again, it's still today...
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2017-01-13 22:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno7ilko.u6q.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #405451 |
The Starmaker wrote: > Ned Latham wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > mlwozniak wrote: > > > > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Twaddle. Time is a noumenon. It has no substance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So is the distance. > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. Distance is length, a dimension of space. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The idea of time travel is as absurd as the idea of number travel. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing absurd about space travel. Any distance at all. > > > > > > > > > > Isn't space and time the same....space? > > > > > > > > Of course not. Evewn the comedian One Stone had to postulate time as > > > > different than space. > > > > > > > > > If the earth is traveling around in circles.. > > > > > then i'm traveling in space... > > > > > but in circles... > > > > > > > > You do that standing still. > > > > > > > > > that's why it's the same day every day...today. > > > > > > > > Wrong. > > > > > > > > Todays' today today; > > > > Today's tomorrow yesterday; > > > > Today's yesterday tomorrow; > > > > Tomorrow's today tomorrow. > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > it's today now.. > > > > In your mind. > > > > > come back tomorrow, it's still be today. > > > > In your mind. > > > > You just don't get it, do you? It's what I said: all in the mind > > of man. And the occasional wannbe. > > I just looked again, it's still today... In your mind.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-13 22:41 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <5879C824.335F@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #405500 |
Ned Latham wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > mlwozniak wrote: > > > > > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Twaddle. Time is a noumenon. It has no substance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So is the distance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. Distance is length, a dimension of space. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The idea of time travel is as absurd as the idea of number travel. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing absurd about space travel. Any distance at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't space and time the same....space? > > > > > > > > > > Of course not. Evewn the comedian One Stone had to postulate time as > > > > > different than space. > > > > > > > > > > > If the earth is traveling around in circles.. > > > > > > then i'm traveling in space... > > > > > > but in circles... > > > > > > > > > > You do that standing still. > > > > > > > > > > > that's why it's the same day every day...today. > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. > > > > > > > > > > Todays' today today; > > > > > Today's tomorrow yesterday; > > > > > Today's yesterday tomorrow; > > > > > Tomorrow's today tomorrow. > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > it's today now.. > > > > > > In your mind. > > > > > > > come back tomorrow, it's still be today. > > > > > > In your mind. > > > > > > You just don't get it, do you? It's what I said: all in the mind > > > of man. And the occasional wannbe. > > > > I just looked again, it's still today... > > In your mind. well, tommorow never seems to come... everytime i look, it's today. it's always....now.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-13 23:00 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <5879CC8E.7706@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #405500 |
Ned Latham wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > mlwozniak wrote: > > > > > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Twaddle. Time is a noumenon. It has no substance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So is the distance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. Distance is length, a dimension of space. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The idea of time travel is as absurd as the idea of number travel. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing absurd about space travel. Any distance at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't space and time the same....space? > > > > > > > > > > Of course not. Evewn the comedian One Stone had to postulate time as > > > > > different than space. > > > > > > > > > > > If the earth is traveling around in circles.. > > > > > > then i'm traveling in space... > > > > > > but in circles... > > > > > > > > > > You do that standing still. > > > > > > > > > > > that's why it's the same day every day...today. > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. > > > > > > > > > > Todays' today today; > > > > > Today's tomorrow yesterday; > > > > > Today's yesterday tomorrow; > > > > > Tomorrow's today tomorrow. > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > it's today now.. > > > > > > In your mind. > > > > > > > come back tomorrow, it's still be today. > > > > > > In your mind. > > > > > > You just don't get it, do you? It's what I said: all in the mind > > > of man. And the occasional wannbe. > > > > I just looked again, it's still today... > > In your mind. No, I don't get it. It's either in my mind, or...it is independent of the observer, which is it????
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2017-01-14 15:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno7kgmp.n9f.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #405541 |
The Starmaker wrote: > Ned Latham wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > > mlwozniak wrote: > > > > > > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Twaddle. Time is a noumenon. It has no substance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So is the distance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. Distance is length, a dimension of space. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The idea of time travel is as absurd as the idea of number travel. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing absurd about space travel. Any distance at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't space and time the same....space? > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course not. Evewn the comedian One Stone had to postulate time as > > > > > > different than space. > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the earth is traveling around in circles.. > > > > > > > then i'm traveling in space... > > > > > > > but in circles... > > > > > > > > > > > > You do that standing still. > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's why it's the same day every day...today. > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > Todays' today today; > > > > > > Today's tomorrow yesterday; > > > > > > Today's yesterday tomorrow; > > > > > > Tomorrow's today tomorrow. > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > it's today now.. > > > > > > > > In your mind. > > > > > > > > > come back tomorrow, it's still be today. > > > > > > > > In your mind. > > > > > > > > You just don't get it, do you? It's what I said: all in the mind > > > > of man. And the occasional wannbe. > > > > > > I just looked again, it's still today... > > > > In your mind. > > No, I don't get it. That's because it's in your mind. > It's either in my mind, That's it: in your nind. > or...it is independent of the observer, Not possible. It's all in the mind. > which is it???? In your mind.
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