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  Re: It's About Time Simeom <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-23 08:30 -0500
    Re: It's About Time The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-23 11:15 -0700
    Re: It's About Time The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-23 11:29 -0700
      Re: It's About Time pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-07-23 12:22 -0700
      Re: It's About Time The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-24 00:58 -0700
        Re: It's About Time The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-26 00:17 -0700

#358372 — Re: It's About Time

On 7/21/2015 10:16 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Simeom wrote:
>>
>> On 7/21/2015 7:41 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Now let me explain
>>> how this Clock thing
>>> works...
>>
>> OK !!  I am READY !!
>>
>>>
>>> If you got two
>>> clocks, and one is
>>> slower
>>> and the other
>>> is faster....

>> usally a small speed adjustment is all that is needed, perhaps both
>> clocks, get a short wave radio and tune to 10MHz and listen for the
>> ticking, no problem
>>
>>>
>>> the one that is faster
>>> is in the future...
>>> and the other one
>>> is running slow because
>>> it's in the past.

>> can you see the one in the future, or will someone move it ?
>>
>> can you see the one in the past? or is it gone ?
>>
>>>
>>> The clock in the north
>>> pole is the future clock..
>>> and the clock in the south
>>> is the clock in the past.

>> south pole ?
>>
>> both those places are very cold, and if your clocks are pendulem types
>> they may still be off due to being at the pole and rotating around.
>>

>>> If you're standing
>>> on the north pole..
>>> and your twin is in
>>> the south pole...
>>> your twin at the
>>> north pole is
>>> getting older
>>> faster than your
>>> twin in the
>>> south pole.

>>
>> na, one at the pole and the other at the Equator, the equator rotates at
>> 24,901 miles in 24 hours or about 1,000 miles an hour relitive to the
>> pole, so the equator dudes are younger than pole dudes.  which is easily
>> verified as the pole only has older people there, and the equator has
>> lots of babies in new countries....
>

> the south pole is the bottom..
> the north pole it the top.
>
> elevation.

> think
> east west
> this way and that way
> also called longitude
>
> then
>   altitude
> south pole level
> and north pole at the top.

> north points up.
>
> up.
>

if you are at the south pole and they tell you to look up, do you look 
at your feet, or do you look at the sky ?

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#358435

Simeom wrote:
> 
> On 7/21/2015 10:16 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Simeom wrote:
> >>
> >> On 7/21/2015 7:41 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> Now let me explain
> >>> how this Clock thing
> >>> works...
> >>
> >> OK !!  I am READY !!
> >>
> >>>
> >>> If you got two
> >>> clocks, and one is
> >>> slower
> >>> and the other
> >>> is faster....
> 
> >> usally a small speed adjustment is all that is needed, perhaps both
> >> clocks, get a short wave radio and tune to 10MHz and listen for the
> >> ticking, no problem
> >>
> >>>
> >>> the one that is faster
> >>> is in the future...
> >>> and the other one
> >>> is running slow because
> >>> it's in the past.
> 
> >> can you see the one in the future, or will someone move it ?
> >>
> >> can you see the one in the past? or is it gone ?
> >>
> >>>
> >>> The clock in the north
> >>> pole is the future clock..
> >>> and the clock in the south
> >>> is the clock in the past.
> 
> >> south pole ?
> >>
> >> both those places are very cold, and if your clocks are pendulem types
> >> they may still be off due to being at the pole and rotating around.
> >>
> 
> >>> If you're standing
> >>> on the north pole..
> >>> and your twin is in
> >>> the south pole...
> >>> your twin at the
> >>> north pole is
> >>> getting older
> >>> faster than your
> >>> twin in the
> >>> south pole.
> 
> >>
> >> na, one at the pole and the other at the Equator, the equator rotates at
> >> 24,901 miles in 24 hours or about 1,000 miles an hour relitive to the
> >> pole, so the equator dudes are younger than pole dudes.  which is easily
> >> verified as the pole only has older people there, and the equator has
> >> lots of babies in new countries....
> >
> 
> > the south pole is the bottom..
> > the north pole it the top.
> >
> > elevation.
> 
> > think
> > east west
> > this way and that way
> > also called longitude
> >
> > then
> >   altitude
> > south pole level
> > and north pole at the top.
> 
> > north points up.
> >
> > up.
> >
> 
> if you are at the south pole and they tell you to look up, do you look
> at your feet, or do you look at the sky ?


you mean "up" being the north pole?

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#358438

Simeom wrote:
> 
> On 7/21/2015 10:16 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Simeom wrote:
> >>
> >> On 7/21/2015 7:41 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> Now let me explain
> >>> how this Clock thing
> >>> works...
> >>
> >> OK !!  I am READY !!
> >>
> >>>
> >>> If you got two
> >>> clocks, and one is
> >>> slower
> >>> and the other
> >>> is faster....
> 
> >> usally a small speed adjustment is all that is needed, perhaps both
> >> clocks, get a short wave radio and tune to 10MHz and listen for the
> >> ticking, no problem
> >>
> >>>
> >>> the one that is faster
> >>> is in the future...
> >>> and the other one
> >>> is running slow because
> >>> it's in the past.
> 
> >> can you see the one in the future, or will someone move it ?
> >>
> >> can you see the one in the past? or is it gone ?
> >>
> >>>
> >>> The clock in the north
> >>> pole is the future clock..
> >>> and the clock in the south
> >>> is the clock in the past.
> 
> >> south pole ?
> >>
> >> both those places are very cold, and if your clocks are pendulem types
> >> they may still be off due to being at the pole and rotating around.
> >>
> 
> >>> If you're standing
> >>> on the north pole..
> >>> and your twin is in
> >>> the south pole...
> >>> your twin at the
> >>> north pole is
> >>> getting older
> >>> faster than your
> >>> twin in the
> >>> south pole.
> 
> >>
> >> na, one at the pole and the other at the Equator, the equator rotates at
> >> 24,901 miles in 24 hours or about 1,000 miles an hour relitive to the
> >> pole, so the equator dudes are younger than pole dudes.  which is easily
> >> verified as the pole only has older people there, and the equator has
> >> lots of babies in new countries....
> >
> 
> > the south pole is the bottom..
> > the north pole it the top.
> >
> > elevation.
> 
> > think
> > east west
> > this way and that way
> > also called longitude
> >
> > then
> >   altitude
> > south pole level
> > and north pole at the top.
> 
> > north points up.
> >
> > up.
> >
> 
> if you are at the south pole and they tell you to look up, do you look
> at your feet, or do you look at the sky ?


I have a question for You...


 You got a mechanical clock at the north pole, with a guy looking at it

 And you got a mechanical clock at the equator, with a girl looking at it

 Of course, the clock runs a little slower at the equator..

 but the question is...

 When does it run slower? In the summertime? Winter time? Spring, or Fall??? Or
 in the mornings, or in the afternoon, or evenings. When does it run slower????

 Or does it run slower when she keeps looking at the clock all the time,
 no matter what time of day it is or what month it is..
 comparison to the clock at the north pole where the guy is looking at it?

 The question is: When does the clock run slower?

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#358444

On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 11:29:25 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:

> I have a question for You...
> 
>  You got a mechanical clock at the north pole, with a guy looking at it
> 
>  And you got a mechanical clock at the equator, with a girl looking at it
> 
>  Of course, the clock runs a little slower at the equator..
> 
>  but the question is... : When does the clock run slower?

A clock on the equator runs at the same rate as a clock at a pole, see this link...

http://www.alternativephysics.org/book/GRexperiments.htm

... and scroll down about 3/4 of the page to the section with the heading "Relativity on the Earth's surface".

There is also this link...

http://www.quora.com/Does-time-run-slower-on-the-equator-than-at-the-poles

... which gives the same information presented in a slightly different manner, and explains just why the Earth is oblate by just the right amount.

Or, Google up "clock slower at the equator" and read as many links as you like, there are hundreds of thousands of them...

\Paul A

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#358501

Greg Goss wrote:
> 
> Simeom <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
> >On 7/23/2015 1:29 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> >>   When does it run slower? In the summertime? Winter time? Spring, or Fall??? Or
> >>   in the mornings, or in the afternoon, or evenings. When does it run slower????
> >
> >it runs slower all the time, as it is going faster than the north pole
> >clock relitive to the universe
> 
> As the earth travels around the sun, the speed of a point on its
> surface adds to, or subtracts from, its orbital speed.  I no longer
> have enough geometrical intuition to calculate whether it's fastest at
> noon or midnight.  This orbital speed is fastest, if I recall
> correctly, in late January.
> 
> Then there is the solar system's travel through the galaxy.  The sum
> total speed would depend on the season, as well as the previously
> discussed time-of-day adjustment.
> 
> --
> We are geeks.  Resistance is voltage over current.


Winter????

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#358678

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Greg Goss wrote:
> >
> > Simeom <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
> > >On 7/23/2015 1:29 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > >>   When does it run slower? In the summertime? Winter time? Spring, or Fall??? Or
> > >>   in the mornings, or in the afternoon, or evenings. When does it run slower????
> > >
> > >it runs slower all the time, as it is going faster than the north pole
> > >clock relitive to the universe
> >
> > As the earth travels around the sun, the speed of a point on its
> > surface adds to, or subtracts from, its orbital speed.  I no longer
> > have enough geometrical intuition to calculate whether it's fastest at
> > noon or midnight.  This orbital speed is fastest, if I recall
> > correctly, in late January.
> >
> > Then there is the solar system's travel through the galaxy.  The sum
> > total speed would depend on the season, as well as the previously
> > discussed time-of-day adjustment.
> >
> > --
> > We are geeks.  Resistance is voltage over current.
> 
> Winter????


one guy says "all the time", and another says..."late January".



When does it run slower?


Maybe, ...maybe...just once in a while, ...whenever it feels like.

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