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Planetary Protection Officer

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2017-08-02 09:29 -0700
Last post2017-08-05 18:23 -0700
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  Planetary Protection Officer  The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-02 09:29 -0700
    Re: Planetary Protection Officer The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-02 09:34 -0700
      Re: Planetary Protection Officer The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-02 09:47 -0700
        Re: Planetary Protection Officer The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-02 10:10 -0700
        Re: Planetary Protection Officer The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-02 15:54 -0700
          Re: Planetary Protection Officer The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-03 10:03 -0700
            Re: Planetary Protection Officer The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-03 10:53 -0700
            Re: Planetary Protection Officer The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-03 11:06 -0700
              Re: Planetary Protection Officer The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-03 11:11 -0700
              Re: Planetary Protection Officer "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2017-08-03 20:50 -0400
                Re: Planetary Protection Officer The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-03 20:50 -0700
                  Re: Planetary Protection Officer "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2017-08-04 09:36 -0400
                    Re: Planetary Protection Officer The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-04 23:21 -0700
                      Re: Planetary Protection Officer "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2017-08-05 04:37 -0400
                      Re: Planetary Protection Officer The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-05 14:48 -0700
                        Re: Planetary Protection Officer The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-05 18:13 -0700
              Re: Planetary Protection Officer The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-05 10:16 -0700
      Re: Planetary Protection Officer Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-04 14:00 +1000
        Re: Planetary Protection Officer The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-04 00:07 -0700
          Re: Planetary Protection Officer Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-04 17:14 +1000
            Re: Planetary Protection Officer Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-04 11:35 -0500
              Re: Planetary Protection Officer Otten Schneijders <jii@pouartj.op> - 2017-08-04 17:12 +0000
                Re: Planetary Protection Officer Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-04 12:51 -0500
                  Re: Planetary Protection Officer Otten Schneijders <jii@pouartj.op> - 2017-08-04 18:39 +0000
                    Re: Planetary Protection Officer MaryK <nobody@invalid.com> - 2017-08-04 18:41 -0500
                      Re: Planetary Protection Officer The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-04 23:18 -0700
                      Re: Planetary Protection Officer Otten Schneijders <jii@pouartj.op> - 2017-08-05 10:09 +0000
                        Re: Planetary Protection Officer MaryK <nobody@invalid.com> - 2017-08-05 09:08 -0500
                          Re: Planetary Protection Officer Otten Schneijders <jii@pouartj.op> - 2017-08-05 14:19 +0000
                            Re: Planetary Protection Officer MaryK <nobody@invalid.com> - 2017-08-05 10:46 -0500
                              Re: Planetary Protection Officer Otten Schneijders <jii@pouartj.op> - 2017-08-05 15:51 +0000
                              Re: Planetary Protection Officer The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-05 09:41 -0700
                              Re: Planetary Protection Officer Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-06 10:49 +0200
              Re: Planetary Protection Officer The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-04 23:23 -0700
              Re: Planetary Protection Officer Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-05 16:26 +1000
                Re: Planetary Protection Officer MaryK <nobody@invalid.com> - 2017-08-05 10:55 -0500
                  Re: Planetary Protection Officer Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-06 10:58 +0200
                Re: Planetary Protection Officer benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-05 21:16 -0400
                  Re: Planetary Protection Officer Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-06 15:05 +1000
            Re: Planetary Protection Officer Otten Schneijders <jii@pouartj.op> - 2017-08-04 17:36 +0000
              Re: Planetary Protection Officer Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-05 16:22 +1000
                Re: Planetary Protection Officer Otten Schneijders <jii@pouartj.op> - 2017-08-05 11:37 +0000
                  Re: Planetary Protection Officer Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-05 21:56 +1000
                    Re: Planetary Protection Officer MaryK <nobody@invalid.com> - 2017-08-05 09:11 -0500
                      Re: Planetary Protection Officer Otten Schneijders <jii@pouartj.op> - 2017-08-05 15:16 +0000
                        Re: Planetary Protection Officer MaryK <nobody@invalid.com> - 2017-08-05 11:05 -0500
                      Re: Planetary Protection Officer Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-06 10:53 +0200
                        Re: Planetary Protection Officer Ustine Bertrand <ufu@ywwerw.su> - 2017-08-06 09:33 +0000
                          Re: Planetary Protection Officer Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-06 13:38 +0200
                    Re: Planetary Protection Officer The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-05 10:04 -0700
            Re: Planetary Protection Officer The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-04 23:15 -0700
              Re: Planetary Protection Officer Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-05 16:30 +1000
    Nine year old kid applies for Planetary Protection Officer The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-05 13:28 -0700
      Re: Nine year old kid applies for Planetary Protection Officer The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-05 18:23 -0700

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#427212

FromSerg io <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2017-08-04 11:35 -0500
Message-ID<om27qi$8ih$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#427180
On 8/4/2017 2:14 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 4/08/2017 5:07 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>
>>> On 3/08/2017 2:34 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/474414000
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nasa Is Hiring a Planetary Protection Officer to Save Earth from Aliens
>>>>

>>>> http://www.newsweek.com/nasa-hiring-planetary-protection-officer-save-earth-aliens-645254 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Looks like neither you, nor Newsweek, are capable of reading a clear
>>> description of what the job is actually about.
>>>
>>> Sylvia.
>>
>>
>> The job description title is clear..
>>
>> "Planetary Protection Officer"
>>
>>
>> The question is..."Protection" from What????
>>
>>
>> Can you answer that Mrs. Else?
>>
> 
> The responsibility is to protect the planets and moons of the Solar 
> System from microbiological contamination by NASA's space probes.

impossable to do that if it lands on it.  all things manufactured 
already have microbio contamination on them, as soon as exposed to air.

the only way is lots of hard radiation

> 
> Europa is of special concern because it is almost certainly a liquid 
> water ocean covered by ice, and might conceivably be some kind of life 
> there.
> 
> Sylvia.

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#427213

FromOtten Schneijders <jii@pouartj.op>
Date2017-08-04 17:12 +0000
Message-ID<om29u6$8di$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#427212
Serg io wrote:

>> The responsibility is to protect the planets and moons of the Solar
>> System from microbiological contamination by NASA's space probes.
> 
> impossable to do that if it lands on it.  all things manufactured
> already have microbio contamination on them, as soon as exposed to air.
> the only way is lots of hard radiation

Not true. There are stories circulating saying that they never landen on 
Mars neither. But the pictures they publish are from somewhere here on 
Earth, probably Antarctica. What do you have to say in your defence?

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#427218

FromSerg io <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2017-08-04 12:51 -0500
Message-ID<om2c7d$gh0$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#427213
On 8/4/2017 12:12 PM, Otten Schneijders wrote:
> Serg io wrote:
> 
>>> The responsibility is to protect the planets and moons of the Solar
>>> System from microbiological contamination by NASA's space probes.
>>
>> impossable to do that if it lands on it.  all things manufactured
>> already have microbio contamination on them, as soon as exposed to air.
>> the only way is lots of hard radiation
> 
> Not true. 

very true. even IC chips have bacterial contamination



> There are stories circulating saying that they never landen on
> Mars neither. But the pictures they publish are from somewhere here on
> Earth, probably Antarctica. What do you have to say in your defence?
> 

"stories" ?  "circulating" ?  [smells like FAKE NEWS]

"somewhere" ?

"they" ?   "probably" ?


what about Venus ?   **contaminated!!**

and Jupeter ?  **contaminated!!**

MARS      **contaminated!!**

Moon     **contaminated!!**

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#427229

FromOtten Schneijders <jii@pouartj.op>
Date2017-08-04 18:39 +0000
Message-ID<om2f09$cia$4@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#427218
Serg io wrote:

>>> impossable to do that if it lands on it.  all things manufactured
>>> already have microbio contamination on them, as soon as exposed to
>>> air.
>>> the only way is lots of hard radiation
>> 
>> Not true.
> 
> very true. even IC chips have bacterial contamination

I don't believe you. Show me one. You neither know the difference between 
a function and an equation, similar to a few others around here. (hint, 
propagation delays are NOT bacterial)

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#427272

FromMaryK <nobody@invalid.com>
Date2017-08-04 18:41 -0500
Message-ID<om30ok$1ei6$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#427229
On 8/4/2017 1:39 PM, Otten Schneijders wrote:
> Serg io wrote:
> 
>>>> impossable to do that if it lands on it.  all things manufactured
>>>> already have microbio contamination on them, as soon as exposed to
>>>> air.
>>>> the only way is lots of hard radiation
>>>
>>> Not true.
>>
>> very true. even IC chips have bacterial contamination
> 
> I don't believe you. Show me one. 

https://microbewiki.kenyon.edu/index.php/Bacterial_Contamination_on_Phones

You neither know the difference between
> a function and an equation, 

you missinterpet common nomenclature

similar to a few others around here. (hint,
> propagation delays are NOT bacterial)
> 

remember HEPA only gets 99.97% of particals, so if you have 10,000,000 
particals per cubic inch, after a HEPA filter you now have 3,000 
floating around in your IC chip clean room.

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#427288

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-08-04 23:18 -0700
Message-ID<5985633D.CB@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#427272
MaryK wrote:
> 
> On 8/4/2017 1:39 PM, Otten Schneijders wrote:
> > Serg io wrote:
> >
> >>>> impossable to do that if it lands on it.  all things manufactured
> >>>> already have microbio contamination on them, as soon as exposed to
> >>>> air.
> >>>> the only way is lots of hard radiation
> >>>
> >>> Not true.
> >>
> >> very true. even IC chips have bacterial contamination
> >
> > I don't believe you. Show me one.
> 
> https://microbewiki.kenyon.edu/index.php/Bacterial_Contamination_on_Phones
> 
> You neither know the difference between
> > a function and an equation,
> 
> you missinterpet common nomenclature
> 
> similar to a few others around here. (hint,
> > propagation delays are NOT bacterial)
> >
> 
> remember HEPA only gets 99.97% of particals,

How could I forget?




> so if you have 10,000,000
> particals per cubic inch, after a HEPA filter you now have 3,000
> floating around in your IC chip clean room.

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#427301

FromOtten Schneijders <jii@pouartj.op>
Date2017-08-05 10:09 +0000
Message-ID<om45ga$rgj$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#427272
MaryK wrote:

> remember HEPA only gets 99.97% of particals, so if you have 10,000,000
> particals per cubic inch, after a HEPA filter you now have 3,000
> floating around in your IC chip clean room.

That must be at best dust and impurities, not life. In which case you have 
to redefine life to match your stupidity. As a minimum, life has to be a 
Functional Cell.

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#427312

FromMaryK <nobody@invalid.com>
Date2017-08-05 09:08 -0500
Message-ID<om4jhb$1fvp$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#427301
On 8/5/2017 5:09 AM, Otten Schneijders wrote:
> MaryK wrote:
> 
>> remember HEPA only gets 99.97% of particals, so if you have 10,000,000
>> particals per cubic inch, after a HEPA filter you now have 3,000
>> floating around in your IC chip clean room.
> 
> That must be at best dust and impurities, not life. In which case you have
> to redefine life to match your stupidity. As a minimum, life has to be a
> Functional Cell.
> 

life is smaller than you think it is, google "bacteria"

Extra Credit:
how small is the smallest life ?  (in microns)

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#427314

FromOtten Schneijders <jii@pouartj.op>
Date2017-08-05 14:19 +0000
Message-ID<om4k57$1f7v$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#427312
MaryK wrote:

> On 8/5/2017 5:09 AM, Otten Schneijders wrote:
>> MaryK wrote:
>> 
>>> remember HEPA only gets 99.97% of particals, so if you have 10,000,000
>>> particals per cubic inch, after a HEPA filter you now have 3,000
>>> floating around in your IC chip clean room.
>> 
>> That must be at best dust and impurities, not life. In which case you
>> have to redefine life to match your stupidity. As a minimum, life has
>> to be a Functional Cell.
>> 
> life is smaller than you think it is, google "bacteria"
> Extra Credit: how small is the smallest life ?  (in microns)

Can't you read, friend. A functional cell is life, it must be. A virus 
however is NOT. Pay attention, you are attempting mixing shit together.

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#427326

FromMaryK <nobody@invalid.com>
Date2017-08-05 10:46 -0500
Message-ID<om4p95$1oq3$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#427314
On 8/5/2017 9:19 AM, Otten Schneijders wrote:
> MaryK wrote:
> 
>> On 8/5/2017 5:09 AM, Otten Schneijders wrote:
>>> MaryK wrote:
>>>
>>>> remember HEPA only gets 99.97% of particals, so if you have 10,000,000
>>>> particals per cubic inch, after a HEPA filter you now have 3,000
>>>> floating around in your IC chip clean room.
>>>
>>> That must be at best dust and impurities, not life. In which case you
>>> have to redefine life to match your stupidity. As a minimum, life has
>>> to be a Functional Cell.
>>>
>> life is smaller than you think it is, google "bacteria"
>> Extra Credit: how small is the smallest life ?  (in microns)
> 
> Can't you read, friend. A functional cell is life, it must be. A virus
> however is NOT. Pay attention, you are attempting mixing shit together.
> 

you fail extra credit, you get an F

Porcine circovirus is 17nm!



More extra credit:

so if your spacecraft has surface area of 600 m^2 how many Porcine 
circovirus can you put on it ??

hint 600/(0.0000000017) = ?


Super Extra Credit Problem;

if you are 99.999999% effective in removing Porcine circovirus from 
spacecraft in 'more extra credit' above, how may are left on spacecraft 
to infect planet ?

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#427328

FromOtten Schneijders <jii@pouartj.op>
Date2017-08-05 15:51 +0000
Message-ID<om4ph4$1ot7$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#427326
MaryK wrote:

> On 8/5/2017 9:19 AM, Otten Schneijders wrote:
>> MaryK wrote:
>> 
>>> On 8/5/2017 5:09 AM, Otten Schneijders wrote:
>>>> MaryK wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> remember HEPA only gets 99.97% of particals, so if you have
>>>>> 10,000,000 particals per cubic inch, after a HEPA filter you now
>>>>> have 3,000 floating around in your IC chip clean room.
>>>>
>>>> That must be at best dust and impurities, not life. In which case you
>>>> have to redefine life to match your stupidity. As a minimum, life has
>>>> to be a Functional Cell.
>>>>
>>> life is smaller than you think it is, google "bacteria" Extra Credit:
>>> how small is the smallest life ?  (in microns)
>> 
>> Can't you read, friend. A functional cell is life, it must be. A virus
>> however is NOT. Pay attention, you are attempting mixing shit together.
>
> you fail extra credit, you get an F Porcine circovirus is 17nm!

That's why viruses are not life, cretin. They need a porcine. A porcine IS 
life, obviously. Reread what is been said, stupid. A FUNCTIONAL cell IS 
life.

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#427340

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-08-05 09:41 -0700
Message-ID<5985F523.72C0@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#427326
MaryK wrote:
> 
> On 8/5/2017 9:19 AM, Otten Schneijders wrote:
> > MaryK wrote:
> >
> >> On 8/5/2017 5:09 AM, Otten Schneijders wrote:
> >>> MaryK wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> remember HEPA only gets 99.97% of particals, so if you have 10,000,000
> >>>> particals per cubic inch, after a HEPA filter you now have 3,000
> >>>> floating around in your IC chip clean room.
> >>>
> >>> That must be at best dust and impurities, not life. In which case you
> >>> have to redefine life to match your stupidity. As a minimum, life has
> >>> to be a Functional Cell.
> >>>
> >> life is smaller than you think it is, google "bacteria"
> >> Extra Credit: how small is the smallest life ?  (in microns)
> >
> > Can't you read, friend. A functional cell is life, it must be. A virus
> > however is NOT. Pay attention, you are attempting mixing shit together.
> >
> 
> you fail extra credit, you get an F
> 
> Porcine circovirus is 17nm!
> 
> More extra credit:
> 
> so if your spacecraft has surface area of 600 m^2 how many Porcine
> circovirus can you put on it ??
> 
> hint 600/(0.0000000017) = ?
> 
> Super Extra Credit Problem;
> 
> if you are 99.999999% effective in removing Porcine circovirus from
> spacecraft in 'more extra credit' above, how may are left on spacecraft
> to infect planet ?


"to infect planet"???? Maybe you don't understand...*The Purpose of Life*!


The Purpose of Life *is to* "infect planets"!


Nature wishes that all planets get infected with Life.


So, it gives earth a cold..

and the cold wishes to find a host..

another...planet.

It propels the cold
like sneezing
and the other
planets
catches the cold.

Yous are the cold.


Nature does not want or need a
Planetary Protection Officer.


It goes against all common sense.

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#427404

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2017-08-06 10:49 +0200
Message-ID<1735899.yKVeVyVuyW@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#427326
MaryK wrote:

> Porcine circovirus is 17nm!
> 
> More extra credit:
> 
> so if your spacecraft has surface area of 600 m^2 how many Porcine
> circovirus can you put on it ??
> 
> hint 600/(0.0000000017) = ?

Extra credit if you realize what is wrong with this equation in this 
context.

F’up2 sci.physics, where it is only the least off-topic.
 
-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#427291

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-08-04 23:23 -0700
Message-ID<5985644D.3355@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#427212
Serg io wrote:
> 
> On 8/4/2017 2:14 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > On 4/08/2017 5:07 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> Sylvia Else wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 3/08/2017 2:34 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/474414000
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Nasa Is Hiring a Planetary Protection Officer to Save Earth from Aliens
> >>>>
> 
> >>>> http://www.newsweek.com/nasa-hiring-planetary-protection-officer-save-earth-aliens-645254
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Looks like neither you, nor Newsweek, are capable of reading a clear
> >>> description of what the job is actually about.
> >>>
> >>> Sylvia.
> >>
> >>
> >> The job description title is clear..
> >>
> >> "Planetary Protection Officer"
> >>
> >>
> >> The question is..."Protection" from What????
> >>
> >>
> >> Can you answer that Mrs. Else?
> >>
> >
> > The responsibility is to protect the planets and moons of the Solar
> > System from microbiological contamination by NASA's space probes.
> 
> impossable to do that if it lands on it.  all things manufactured
> already have microbio contamination on them, as soon as exposed to air.
> 
> the only way is lots of hard radiation
> 
> >
> > Europa is of special concern because it is almost certainly a liquid
> > water ocean covered by ice, and might conceivably be some kind of life
> > there.
> >
> > Sylvia.




Is a rock going to catch a cold????

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#427292

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2017-08-05 16:26 +1000
Message-ID<eul6p5FpjloU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#427212
On 5/08/2017 2:35 AM, Serg io wrote:
> On 8/4/2017 2:14 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 4/08/2017 5:07 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 3/08/2017 2:34 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/474414000
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nasa Is Hiring a Planetary Protection Officer to Save Earth from 
>>>>> Aliens
>>>>>
> 
>>>>> http://www.newsweek.com/nasa-hiring-planetary-protection-officer-save-earth-aliens-645254 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Looks like neither you, nor Newsweek, are capable of reading a clear
>>>> description of what the job is actually about.
>>>>
>>>> Sylvia.
>>>
>>>
>>> The job description title is clear..
>>>
>>> "Planetary Protection Officer"
>>>
>>>
>>> The question is..."Protection" from What????
>>>
>>>
>>> Can you answer that Mrs. Else?
>>>
>>
>> The responsibility is to protect the planets and moons of the Solar 
>> System from microbiological contamination by NASA's space probes.
> 
> impossable to do that if it lands on it.  all things manufactured 
> already have microbio contamination on them, as soon as exposed to air.
> 
> the only way is lots of hard radiation

Well, for example, Galileo was deliberately crashed into Jupiter to 
avoid any possibility of its contaminating Europa after it can no longer 
control its orbit.

Ensuring that any future landing on Europa won't risk contamination will 
likely be one of the responsibilities of the appointee.

Sylvia.

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#427331

FromMaryK <nobody@invalid.com>
Date2017-08-05 10:55 -0500
Message-ID<om4pr9$1pi7$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#427292
On 8/5/2017 1:26 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 5/08/2017 2:35 AM, Serg io wrote:
>> On 8/4/2017 2:14 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>> On 4/08/2017 5:07 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/08/2017 2:34 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/474414000
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nasa Is Hiring a Planetary Protection Officer to Save Earth from 
>>>>>> Aliens
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>> http://www.newsweek.com/nasa-hiring-planetary-protection-officer-save-earth-aliens-645254 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks like neither you, nor Newsweek, are capable of reading a clear
>>>>> description of what the job is actually about.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sylvia.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The job description title is clear..
>>>>
>>>> "Planetary Protection Officer"

>>>>
>>>> The question is..."Protection" from What????
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can you answer that Mrs. Else?
>>>>
>>>
>>> The responsibility is to protect the planets and moons of the Solar 
>>> System from microbiological contamination by NASA's space probes.
>>
>> impossable to do that if it lands on it.  all things manufactured 
>> already have microbio contamination on them, as soon as exposed to air.
>>
>> the only way is lots of hard radiation
> 
> Well, for example, Galileo was deliberately crashed into Jupiter to 
> avoid any possibility of its contaminating Europa after it can no longer 
> control its orbit.

Primary goal it was always designed to go into jupeter to get atmosphere 
data all along.  (wiki is wrong here, contammination not considered in 
oragional mission.)

the contammination thing is a new spin they put on it.

but they did contamminated Jupeter with earth germs.

> 
> Ensuring that any future landing on Europa won't risk contamination will 
> likely be one of the responsibilities of the appointee.
> 
> Sylvia.

my point is that when they do the analysis, they will not be able to 
100% guarentee there are no life thingies on the sattilite.
  99.99% perhaps.

on the surface of earth everything is coated with thin biofilms already.

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#427406

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2017-08-06 10:58 +0200
Message-ID<1943044.NgBsaNRSFp@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#427331
MaryK wrote:

> Primary goal it was always designed to go into jupeter to get atmosphere
> data all along.  (wiki is wrong here, contammination not considered in
> oragional mission.)
> 
> the contammination thing is a new spin they put on it.
> 
> but they did contamminated Jupeter with earth germs.

… and all the extraterrestrial life there :->

BTW, you really want to use a spell checker and a newsreader that warns you 
when you are crossposting without Followup-To.

And a real name.

And an e-mail address.

And a non-troll news server.

In short: a brain.
 
-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#427386

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-08-05 21:16 -0400
Message-ID<59866dfb$0$43811$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#427292
On 8/5/2017 2:26 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 5/08/2017 2:35 AM, Serg io wrote:
>> On 8/4/2017 2:14 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>> On 4/08/2017 5:07 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/08/2017 2:34 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/474414000
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nasa Is Hiring a Planetary Protection Officer to Save Earth from 
>>>>>> Aliens
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>> http://www.newsweek.com/nasa-hiring-planetary-protection-officer-save-earth-aliens-645254 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks like neither you, nor Newsweek, are capable of reading a clear
>>>>> description of what the job is actually about.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sylvia.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The job description title is clear..
>>>>
>>>> "Planetary Protection Officer"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The question is..."Protection" from What????
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can you answer that Mrs. Else?
>>>>
>>>
>>> The responsibility is to protect the planets and moons of the Solar 
>>> System from microbiological contamination by NASA's space probes.
>>
>> impossable to do that if it lands on it.  all things manufactured 
>> already have microbio contamination on them, as soon as exposed to air.
>>
>> the only way is lots of hard radiation
> 
> Well, for example, Galileo was deliberately crashed into Jupiter to 
> avoid any possibility of its contaminating Europa after it can no longer 
> control its orbit.
> 
> Ensuring that any future landing on Europa won't risk contamination will 
> likely be one of the responsibilities of the appointee.
> 
> Sylvia.

So crashing contamination into Jupiter is is fine in order to save the 
purity of Europa? I'm sure glad we have a bunch of ethical scientists to 
keep the universe uncontaminated by humans. Kind of reminds me of the 
old "had to destroy the village to save it".

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#427395

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2017-08-06 15:05 +1000
Message-ID<eunmd2FcdgjU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#427386
On 6/08/2017 11:16 AM, benj wrote:
> On 8/5/2017 2:26 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 5/08/2017 2:35 AM, Serg io wrote:
>>> On 8/4/2017 2:14 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> On 4/08/2017 5:07 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/08/2017 2:34 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/474414000
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nasa Is Hiring a Planetary Protection Officer to Save Earth from 
>>>>>>> Aliens
>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.newsweek.com/nasa-hiring-planetary-protection-officer-save-earth-aliens-645254 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks like neither you, nor Newsweek, are capable of reading a clear
>>>>>> description of what the job is actually about.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sylvia.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The job description title is clear..
>>>>>
>>>>> "Planetary Protection Officer"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The question is..."Protection" from What????
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you answer that Mrs. Else?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The responsibility is to protect the planets and moons of the Solar 
>>>> System from microbiological contamination by NASA's space probes.
>>>
>>> impossable to do that if it lands on it.  all things manufactured 
>>> already have microbio contamination on them, as soon as exposed to air.
>>>
>>> the only way is lots of hard radiation
>>
>> Well, for example, Galileo was deliberately crashed into Jupiter to 
>> avoid any possibility of its contaminating Europa after it can no 
>> longer control its orbit.
>>
>> Ensuring that any future landing on Europa won't risk contamination 
>> will likely be one of the responsibilities of the appointee.
>>
>> Sylvia.
> 
> So crashing contamination into Jupiter is is fine in order to save the 
> purity of Europa? I'm sure glad we have a bunch of ethical scientists to 
> keep the universe uncontaminated by humans. Kind of reminds me of the 
> old "had to destroy the village to save it".
> 
The heat of entry into Jupiter's atmosphere would sterilize anything alive.

Sylvia.

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#427217

FromOtten Schneijders <jii@pouartj.op>
Date2017-08-04 17:36 +0000
Message-ID<om2ba5$cia$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#427180
Sylvia Else wrote:

> The responsibility is to protect the planets and moons of the Solar
> System from microbiological contamination by NASA's space probes.

Excellent point. No wonder Modern Science big Pharma declared war to 
microbiological life, here on Earth likewise. The stupidest thing to do, 
from a human perspective, is to declare war to life. How stupid they can 
be.

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