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Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity
Date 2018-10-24 17:26 +0000
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rbwinn3@gmail.com writes:

>On Tuesday, October 23, 2018 at 11:34:17 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> rbwinn3@gmail.com writes:

>> >On Monday, October 22, 2018 at 9:02:12 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> >> rbwinn3@gmail.com writes:

>> >> >I do understand, As judged from K.  In the Galilean transformation equations,

>> >> HOW STUPID IS THAT???  Einstein was explaining an effect of the Lorentz
>> >> transform and YOU START TALKING ABOUT THE GALILEAN TRANSFORM! Einstein
>> >> was not talking about the Galilean transform at all! It doesn't matter
>> >> what you believe, this is about what Einstein was talking about. In the
>> >> Lorentz transform, the moving clock APPEARS slow "As judged from K".
>> >> Einstein NEVER stated the clock IS slow simply BECAUSE HE WAS NOT TALKING
>> >> ABOUT THE GALILEAN TRANSFORM!

>> >Well, he was talking about the Galilean transformation equations.

>> NO HE WAS NOT!!!!

>> >  He explained the Galilean transformation equations in great detail, then
>> >said that they would not work to explain the results of the
>> >Michelson-Morley experiment.  Then he said that the Lorentz equations
>> >were the equations that could explain constant speed of light.

>> That's right. So why did you just claim he was talking about the Galilean
>> transform when you admit he was talking about the Lorentz transform????

>I say he was talking about the Galilean transformation equations because 
>they were the equations used to describe relativity until 1887 and 
>Einstein wrote them out and said, These are the Galilean transformation 
>equations.  Then he said, Here are the Lorentz equations.

And he was describing with an example how the Lorentz equations work in
that paragraph. The Galilean equations are not involved at that point!

>So now if you do not mind, I am going back to the first equations 
>Einstein mentioned in his book, the Galilean transformation equations and 
>pointing out that if Einstein has a slower clock in S',

Once again, the Galilean equations are not involved at that time! Einstein
was using the Lorentz equations.  Which is why he said " As judged from K"
at that time!

> then the correct way to represent that clock mathematically is to use

The Lorentz equations, as Einstein did!

>> >But the Galilean transformation equations still exist and still explain
>> >relativity even though Einstein got sidetracked into the Lorentz equations.

>> That's your opinion, and not the point. EINSTEIN WAS TALKING ABOUT THE
>> LORENTZ EQUATIONS!!!! So what you stated (essentially t'=t) just doesn't
>> apply there! It only applies to the Galilean transform.

>Einstein was talking about a slower clock and trying to explain it with the
> Lorentz equations.

He was talking about how a clock APPEARED slower " As judged from K".

>  He ends up with an impossible result, namely, with two
> clocks that have two different realities.

It is only impossible with the Galilean equations, which are not 
applicable here.

>  So we apply the Galilean transformation equations to the same problem,

No, "we" don't, not if "we" are trying to understand what Einstein was 
saying about the Lorentz transform!

> and we come up with the correct result.

Not correct according to the Lorentz transform!

>  The slower clock in S' that Einstein describes is slower as seen from
> either frame of reference.

No, it is not. Use the Lorentz transform, as Einstein did, and the
observer in S' will see the clock in S as slower, and therefore would
see the clock in S' as FASTER than the clock in S!

>> >So it is possible to compare the Galilean transformation equations to the
>> >Lorentz equations and decide of Einstein was right or wrong in his
>> >conclusion that the Lorentz equations explain relativity.

The Galilean transform has t'=t, and therefore the situation of a slower
(ideal) clock in S' would never happen, so that paragraph would never
come up.

>I say that Einstein was talking about the Galilean transformation equations
>if he wrote them down in his discussion, which he did.

Not at that point! Einstein was ONLY talking about the Lorentz equations
in the section with the phrase "As judged from K,..."

Galilean equation discussion is elsewhere, not there!

>The fact that he said the Lorentz equations were correct and the
>Galilean transformation equations were wrong does not change the fact
>that he was discussing the Galilean transformation equations as well as
>the Lorentz equations.

But not at that time.  The Galilean equations cannot apply there.

>> >But you need to understand that all scientists believed the Galilean
>> >transformation equations until the scientists could not explain the
>> results of an experiment in 1887.

Believed only implicitly, there was nothing else to be believed.

>  So, if only in a historical context,
>> >we are still allowed to study the Galilean transformation equations.  I
>> >know how upsetting this must seem.

>> Why do you come up with such ko0ky claims like "how upsetting this must
>> seem" ?
>>
>It is not a "kooky claim" when you go into a fit of anger every time the 
>Galilean transformation equations are mentioned.

Why do you come up with such ko0ky claims like "[I] go into a fit of anger 
every time the Galilean transformation equations are mentioned." ?

Do remember I am here to watch the kooks here get kooky. It isn't anything
that 'angers' me, in fact it is entertainment for me. I mentioned this
many times how kooks entertain me.

>> >What the Galilean transformation equations show is that if a clock is slow,
>> >as Einstein said a clock in S' was when viewed from S,

>> Irrelevant since EINSTEIN WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT THE GALILEAN EQUATIONS!!!!

>> >You are calling me stupid because I compare the Galilean transformation
>> >equations to the Lorentz equations, which is exactly what Einstein was
>> >doing.

>> No, he was explaining what happens when using the Lorentz transform there.

>> >So go ahead and explain why it was OK for Einstein to compare the
>> >two sets of equations to each other, while it is some kind of great
>> >offense if I do it.

>> Your "offense" was to claim Einstein was using the Galilean transform
>> where he was explicitly using the Lorentz transform. That is all.

>What I did was to apply the Galilean transformation equations to 
>Einstein's idea of a slower clock in S' as seen from S.

That makes no sense whatsoever. First, Einstein was discussing the Lorentz
equations at that point, Galilean equations aren't involved at all. Second,
the Galilean equations *CAN'T* be applied there because there is NEVER any
case in the Galilean equations where an ideal clock is slower than any 
other ideal clock. The only (Galilean) possibility is that one or both
clocks are broken, so who cares about that. Einstein only used ideal 
clocks in his discussions.

>  What the 
>Galilean transformation equations show is that as seen from S', the clock 
>in S is faster than the clock in S', meaning that

one or both clocks are broken, so the whole thing is moot.

>> This has nothing to do with whether or not you or anyone else believe
>> the Galilean transform or the Lorentz transform. It is simply about what
>> Einstein was talking about.

>Einstein was talking about two sets of equations, the Galilean 
>transformation equations and the Lorentz equations. 

Just not at that time. 

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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 21:07 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-19 10:08 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 12:30 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 08:50 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-19 09:35 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 12:29 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-19 13:07 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 16:59 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-19 20:08 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 20:19 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-19 20:47 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 20:54 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-20 13:03 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 14:33 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-20 14:37 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaws.np> - 2018-09-20 22:03 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 15:40 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 15:35 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-20 17:14 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 17:28 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-20 19:33 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 20:45 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-21 05:18 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaws.np> - 2018-09-21 16:18 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 09:24 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-21 12:37 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 16:14 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-21 18:40 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 02:23 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-22 06:56 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 15:14 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 04:11 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 22:13 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 05:32 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 11:43 +0100
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 12:01 +0100
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 15:07 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-22 07:13 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-22 07:25 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 04:07 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 22:12 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 21:54 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 18:09 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 15:17 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 11:29 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 19:45 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 04:34 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 22:17 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 05:47 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-23 03:30 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Rhett Joyner <udof@rsrrfirwv.on> - 2018-09-23 10:58 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 10:06 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 04:44 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-22 21:55 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 22:23 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 06:06 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 03:52 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 15:03 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 12:54 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 20:38 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 18:05 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-24 02:18 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 21:52 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-24 07:31 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 11:22 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-24 15:16 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 16:06 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 16:01 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 12:06 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 19:45 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 15:53 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 23:16 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 19:20 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 14:13 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 08:00 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 17:49 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 23:22 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 14:42 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 07:58 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-26 15:34 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 21:24 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-27 04:48 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 10:52 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-27 11:41 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 21:18 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 17:55 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 12:50 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 12:59 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 22:05 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 17:18 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 12:48 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-29 06:15 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 14:25 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 22:03 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 22:50 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 12:43 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 07:18 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 18:11 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 13:04 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 21:51 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 18:13 -0700

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