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Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity

Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Date 2018-10-24 08:46 -0700
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Subject Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity
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On Tuesday, October 23, 2018 at 11:34:17 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> rbwinn3@gmail.com writes:
> 
> >On Monday, October 22, 2018 at 9:02:12 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >> rbwinn3@gmail.com writes:
> >?
> 
> >> >I do understand, As judged from K.  In the Galilean transformation equations,
> 
> >> HOW STUPID IS THAT???  Einstein was explaining an effect of the Lorentz
> >> transform and YOU START TALKING ABOUT THE GALILEAN TRANSFORM! Einstein
> >> was not talking about the Galilean transform at all! It doesn't matter
> >> what you believe, this is about what Einstein was talking about. In the
> >> Lorentz transform, the moving clock APPEARS slow "As judged from K".
> >> Einstein NEVER stated the clock IS slow simply BECAUSE HE WAS NOT TALKING
> >> ABOUT THE GALILEAN TRANSFORM!
> 
> >Well, he was talking about the Galilean transformation equations.
> 
> NO HE WAS NOT!!!!


> 
> >  He explained the Galilean transformation equations in great detail, then
> >said that they would not work to explain the results of the 
> >Michelson-Morley experiment.  Then he said that the Lorentz equations 
> >were the equations that could explain constant speed of light.
> 
> That's right. So why did you just claim he was talking about the Galilean
> transform when you admit he was talking about the Lorentz transform????

I say he was talking about the Galilean transformation equations because they were the equations used to describe relativity until 1887 and Einstein wrote them out and said, These are the Galilean transformation equations.  Then he said, Here are the Lorentz equations.  The Lorentz equations are going to replace the Galilean transformation equations.  Then he went on to explain that the Lorentz equations satisfy constant speed of light because the two little equations x=ct and x'=ct' could be extracted from the Lorentz equations.  But first he gave a detailed account of what scientists had believed before 1887, the Galilean transformation equations.  
So now if you do not mind, I am going back to the first equations Einstein mentioned in his book, the Galilean transformation equations and pointing out that if Einstein has a slower clock in S', the way he later says he has, then the correct way to represent that clock mathematically is to use a second set of Galilean transformation equations with different variables for time and velocity instead of jamming everything into a single set of equations in which clocks with different rates result in the same speed between frames of reference.  Reality shows us that if one clock is slower than the other, then using that clock to calculate the velocity results in a faster velocity than is obtained with a faster clock.  
So you do not want to discuss this mathematical fact.  Fine.  Why don't you go discuss the length contraction with some of these nice scientists who are discussing the length contraction in other discussions in sci.physics.relativity?   
> 
> >But the Galilean transformation equations still exist and still explain 
> >relativity even though Einstein got sidetracked into the Lorentz equations.
> 
> That's your opinion, and not the point. EINSTEIN WAS TALKING ABOUT THE
> LORENTZ EQUATIONS!!!! So what you stated (essentially t'=t) just doesn't
> apply there! It only applies to the Galilean transform.
> 
Einstein was talking about a slower clock and trying to explain it with the Lorentz equations.  He ends up with an impossible result, namely, with two clocks that have two different realities.  So we apply the Galilean transformation equations to the same problem, and we come up with the correct result.  The slower clock in S' that Einstein describes is slower as seen from either frame of reference.  
 
> >So it is possible to compare the Galilean transformation equations to the 
> >Lorentz equations and decide of Einstein was right or wrong in his 
> >conclusion that the Lorentz equations explain relativity.
> 
> Yes, so? If you still believe the Galilean transform is correct, just say
> "Einstein was wrong."  Don't change what Einstein was talking about and
> claim something that he never said!
>
I say that Einstein was talking about the Galilean transformation equations if he wrote them down in his discussion, which he did.  The fact that he said the Lorentz equations were correct and the Galilean transformation equations were wrong does not change the fact that he was discussing the Galilean transformation equations as well as the Lorentz equations.  
 
> >But you need to understand that all scientists believed the Galilean 
> >transformation equations until the scientists could not explain the 
> results of an experiment in 1887.  So, if only in a historical context, 
> >we are still allowed to study the Galilean transformation equations.  I 
> >know how upsetting this must seem.
> 
> Why do you come up with such ko0ky claims like "how upsetting this must 
> seem" ?
>
It is not a "kooky claim" when you go into a fit of anger every time the Galilean transformation equations are mentioned.  If you do not want to discuss the Galilean transformation equations, go to one of the discussions of the length contraction that these nice scientists have here in sci.physics.relativity.  The Galilean transformation equations do not have a length contraction.  
 
> >What the Galilean transformation equations show is that if a clock is slow,
> >as Einstein said a clock in S' was when viewed from S,
> 
> Irrelevant since EINSTEIN WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT THE GALILEAN EQUATIONS!!!!
> 
> >You are calling me stupid because I compare the Galilean transformation 
> >equations to the Lorentz equations, which is exactly what Einstein was 
> >doing.
> 
> No, he was explaining what happens when using the Lorentz transform there.
> 
> >So go ahead and explain why it was OK for Einstein to compare the 
> >two sets of equations to each other, while it is some kind of great 
> >offense if I do it.
> 
> Your "offense" was to claim Einstein was using the Galilean transform
> where he was explicitly using the Lorentz transform. That is all.

Einstein wrote the Galilean transformation equations down, named them by name, and said we are going to replace these equations with the Lorentz equations.  That is fine.  Einstein can replace the Galilean transformation equations with the Pythagorean theorem if he wants to, but that does not prove they are wrong.  
What I did was to apply the Galilean transformation equations to Einstein's idea of a slower clock in S' as seen from S.  What the Galilean transformation equations show is that as seen from S', the clock in S is faster than the clock in S', meaning that the Galilean transformation equations are the correct equations for relativity because they do not result in two different descriptions of reality the way the Lorentz equations do.  
 
> This has nothing to do with whether or not you or anyone else believe
> the Galilean transform or the Lorentz transform. It is simply about what
> Einstein was talking about.

Einstein was talking about two sets of equations, the Galilean transformation equations and the Lorentz equations. 

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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-11 03:51 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-09 05:44 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-19 07:03 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 16:59 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-19 20:08 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 20:19 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-19 20:47 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 20:54 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-20 13:03 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 14:33 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-20 14:37 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaws.np> - 2018-09-20 22:03 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 15:40 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 15:35 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-20 17:14 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 17:28 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-20 19:33 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 20:45 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-21 05:18 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaws.np> - 2018-09-21 16:18 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 09:24 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-21 12:37 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 16:14 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-21 18:40 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 02:23 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-22 06:56 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 15:14 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 04:11 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 22:13 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 05:32 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 11:43 +0100
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 12:01 +0100
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 15:07 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-22 07:13 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-22 07:25 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 04:07 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 22:12 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 21:54 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 18:09 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 15:17 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 11:29 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 19:45 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 04:34 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 22:17 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 05:47 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-23 03:30 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Rhett Joyner <udof@rsrrfirwv.on> - 2018-09-23 10:58 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 10:06 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 04:44 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-22 21:55 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 22:23 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 06:06 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 03:52 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 15:03 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 12:54 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 20:38 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 18:05 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-24 02:18 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 21:52 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-24 07:31 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 11:22 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-24 15:16 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 16:06 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 16:01 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 12:06 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 19:45 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 15:53 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 23:16 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 19:20 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 14:13 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 08:00 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 17:49 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 23:22 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 14:42 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 07:58 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-26 15:34 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 21:24 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-27 04:48 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 10:52 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-27 11:41 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 21:18 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 17:55 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 12:50 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 12:59 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 22:05 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 17:18 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 12:48 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-29 06:15 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 14:25 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 22:03 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 22:50 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 12:43 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 07:18 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 18:11 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 13:04 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 21:51 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 18:13 -0700

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