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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Subject | Re: Rejecting the SR concept of mutual time dilation |
| Date | Sun, 7 Oct 2018 15:56:41 +0000 (UTC) |
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kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:
>The solution to the above problem
No, Stupid Ken, there is no problem, except in your addled mind.
>is that each observer must include the possibility that the observed
>clock can run faster (accumulates clock seconds at a faster rate) than
>his clock.
Wrong. Such a theory cannot handle the following problem. (If you
disagree, show us!)
3 rockets leave the origin in the XY plane at the same time. They all
move at the same speed, as measured at the origin O. Rocket A moves along
the +x direction. Rocket B moves at a 120 degree angle to Rocket A/the x
axis, in the XY plane. Rocket C moves at a 240 degree angle to A (or 120
degrees in the opposite direction), also in the XY plane. Because of
geometry, Rockets B and C are also at a 120 degree angle to each other.
B
\
\
O------A
/
/
C
Remember, all 3 rockets move at the same velocity as seen from O.
Now, A measures the clock rates of B and C. A measures B's clock as
ticking at exactly half the rate of A's clock. A measures C's clock as
ticking at exactly half the rate of A's clock. In other words,
gamma=2 in both cases.
Tell us. Using your IRT, what does B measure when measuring the rate of
A's clock? What does C measure when measuring the rate of A's clock?
And now: What does B measure when measuring the rate of C's clock?
What does C measure when measuring the rate of B's clock?
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Rejecting the SR concept of mutual time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-07 07:06 -0700
Re: Rejecting the SR concept of mutual time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-07 15:56 +0000
Re: Rejecting the SR concept of mutual time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-07 09:18 -0700
Re: Rejecting the SR concept of mutual time dilation rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-10-07 09:21 -0700
Re: Rejecting the SR concept of mutual time dilation mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-07 10:38 -0700
Re: Rejecting the SR concept of mutual time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-07 17:14 -0700
Re: Rejecting the SR concept of mutual time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-08 01:50 +0000
Re: Rejecting the SR concept of mutual time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-08 12:06 -0700
Re: Rejecting the SR concept of mutual time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-08 20:31 +0000
Re: Rejecting the SR concept of mutual time dilation Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-10-08 23:22 +0200
Re: Rejecting the SR concept of mutual time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-09 06:28 -0700
Re: Rejecting the SR concept of mutual time dilation Paul Gish <uop@uwrwuao.tc> - 2018-10-09 14:02 +0000
Re: Rejecting the SR concept of mutual time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-07 19:19 +0000
Re: Rejecting the SR concept of mutual time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-07 12:33 -0700
Re: Rejecting the SR concept of mutual time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-07 20:36 +0000
Re: Rejecting the SR concept of mutual time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-07 14:03 -0700
Re: Rejecting the SR concept of mutual time dilation JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 12:51 -0700
Re: Rejecting the SR concept of mutual time dilation Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-10-08 23:23 +0200
Re: Rejecting the SR concept of mutual time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-08 22:52 -0700
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