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Re: A GOOD QUESTION

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: A GOOD QUESTION
Date	2018-05-13 18:47 +0000
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kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 3:27:53 PM UTC-4, Steve BH wrote:
>> Nope. Space itself has been expanding since the Big Bang. If you drew a
>> crude wave of light on a child’s balloon partially inflated, and then
>> blew that up more, you’d see the wavelength increase and frequency
>> decrease. The speed never changes.
> 
> Space expanding is an oxymoron statement. According to SR space is empty (nothing). 

First of all, SR says nothing about space being empty or not. Secondly,
being empty would mean devoid of persistent matter, but that does not make
it nothing. 

You assume that the only things that can have existence are matter? Why?
What about energy?

> So how can nothing expand? A more reasonable explanation is that the Big
> Bang caused material objects to apart in all directions in space. And the
> observed red shift of galaxies is due to Doppler shift.
>> 
>> You must have an expanding universe in order for you to see a redshift
>> that increases in every direction, and does so increasingly with
>> distance. And if you have that, that’s already explanation enough for
>> the redshift. No NEED for changing c.
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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A GOOD QUESTION Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 18:42 +0100
  A GOOD QUESTION "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-28 10:50 -0700
    Re: A GOOD QUESTION Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 19:07 +0100
  A GOOD QUESTION "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-28 11:23 -0700
  Re: A GOOD QUESTION Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 12:25 -0700
  A GOOD QUESTION Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 12:27 -0700
    A GOOD QUESTION "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-28 12:52 -0700
      A GOOD QUESTION "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-28 12:57 -0700
    Re: A GOOD QUESTION Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 13:45 -0700
      Re: A GOOD QUESTION "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-28 14:39 -0700
    Re: A GOOD QUESTION RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-20 16:44 -0700
      Re: A GOOD QUESTION "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-20 17:13 -0700
        Re: A GOOD QUESTION "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-20 17:21 -0700
      Re: A GOOD QUESTION Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 20:00 -0500
        Re: A GOOD QUESTION RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-21 12:32 -0700
          Re: A GOOD QUESTION "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-21 12:41 -0700
          Re: A GOOD QUESTION Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-21 19:28 -0500
            Re: A GOOD QUESTION mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-21 21:49 -0700
              Re: A GOOD QUESTION HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-04-23 08:14 +1000
                Re: A GOOD QUESTION Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-22 16:40 -0700
                Re: A GOOD QUESTION Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-04-23 01:53 +0200
                Re: A GOOD QUESTION Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-24 09:45 -0700
            Re: A GOOD QUESTION Erálnì Histickému <no@ovmwk.gn> - 2018-04-22 08:06 +0000
            Re: A GOOD QUESTION HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-04-23 08:12 +1000
          Re: A GOOD QUESTION Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 19:38 -0500
            Re: A GOOD QUESTION Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-22 09:04 -0500
              Re: A GOOD QUESTION Erálnì Histickému <no@ovmwk.gn> - 2018-04-22 14:55 +0000
              Re: A GOOD QUESTION Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 12:03 -0500
                Re: A GOOD QUESTION Erálnì Histickému <no@ovmwk.gn> - 2018-04-23 16:29 +0000
    Re: A GOOD QUESTION kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-13 08:15 -0700
      Re: A GOOD QUESTION Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 18:47 +0000
        Re: A GOOD QUESTION kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-14 07:56 -0700
          Re: A GOOD QUESTION Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 16:47 +0000
            Re: A GOOD QUESTION kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-14 14:59 -0700
              Re: A GOOD QUESTION Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 22:24 +0000
        Re: A GOOD QUESTION RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-16 10:35 -0700
          Re: A GOOD QUESTION Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 18:32 +0000
          Re: A GOOD QUESTION Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-05-16 18:52 -0500
    Re: A GOOD QUESTION kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-17 10:01 -0700
      Re: A GOOD QUESTION Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 17:44 +0000
        Re: A GOOD QUESTION Ursula Vankeuren <aln@divweo.id> - 2018-05-19 14:07 +0000
  Re: A GOOD QUESTION Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-03-31 18:42 -0500
    Re: A GOOD QUESTION HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-04-20 09:12 +1000
      Re: A GOOD QUESTION "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-19 17:53 -0700
      Re: A GOOD QUESTION "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-19 17:54 -0700
      Re: A GOOD QUESTION Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-19 21:16 -0700
        Re: A GOOD QUESTION HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-04-21 07:36 +1000
          Re: A GOOD QUESTION Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-20 14:58 -0700
            Re: A GOOD QUESTION Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 20:00 -0500
              Re: A GOOD QUESTION benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-20 21:39 -0400
                Re: A GOOD QUESTION "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-20 19:02 -0700
                Re: A GOOD QUESTION "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-20 19:16 -0700
                Re: A GOOD QUESTION "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-20 19:20 -0700
                Re: A GOOD QUESTION "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-20 19:32 -0700
                Re: A GOOD QUESTION "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-20 19:47 -0700
                Re: A GOOD QUESTION "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-20 20:03 -0700
              Re: A GOOD QUESTION Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-20 20:39 -0700
            Re: A GOOD QUESTION HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-04-23 07:52 +1000
              Re: A GOOD QUESTION Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-22 16:39 -0700
                Re: A GOOD QUESTION HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-04-25 12:25 +1000
                Re: A GOOD QUESTION Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-24 20:34 -0700
  Re: A GOOD QUESTION Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 09:01 +0100
  Re: A GOOD QUESTION paul jark <jarkpaulsmith@gmail.com> - 2018-05-19 06:27 -0700

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