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Re: Reality versus Math

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Reality versus Math
Date 2017-06-09 15:58 +0000
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kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>On Thursday, June 8, 2017 at 4:28:02 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 6/8/17 2:52 PM, kenseto wrote:
>> > On Thursday, June 8, 2017 at 1:16:08 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> >> On 6/8/17 8:27 AM, kenseto wrote:

>> >>> For example:
>> >>> 1. Physicists claim 11 or 26 dimensions of space and one dimension of
>> >>> time. But there are only three dimensions of space and one dimension of time.
>> >>
>> >> You don't know that.
>> >
>> > 1. Because extra dimensions (other than the normal three dimensions) of
>> > space are not detected and are not detectable.
>>
>> They ARE detectable. There are experiments designed to detect them.

>They are not detectable......no successful experiment performed to detect 
>extra dimensions.

Assertion is not evidence, Stupid Ken.  If you believe that, why not show
a list of experiments that looked for extra dimensions and failed? Odd could
do the same, showing where some evidence was seen.

>> >>> 2. virtual particles pop in and out of empty space.
>> >>
>> >> And you don't know they don't exist.
>> >
>> > 2. Virtual particles pop in and out of empty space to transmit forces
>> > seems magical. Model Mechanics offers a better model for force transmission:

And, of course, it failed completely at that.

>> >>> 3. Universal constant for the speed of light.....by definition the
>> >>> speed of anything (including the speed of light) is changeable.
>> >>
>> >> Bullshit. First of all there is no such definition of speed that
>> >> requires that. Secondly, human definitions do not determine what exists
>> >> and does not exist. You can't say something cannot exist because some
>> >> definition invented by a human says it can't.
>> >
>> > 3. Yes there is such definition for speed......the only speed between
>> > two objects (or entities) that is not changeable is zero speed.
>>
>> And who says that?

>Observations say that.

No, they don't.

>>No physicist says that.

>That's irrelevant.....physicists are not infallible. They make mistakes and
>they don't have physical explanation for all the processes of nature.

No, they are not infallible, but they are all much smarter than you are.
If you say one thing, and real physicists say another, it is almost certain
that the physicists are correct, not you.  Especially since Model Mechanics
is such a failure.

>> Remember, YOUR definitions do not count. You cannot make something exist
>> by YOU making a definition that says it can't happen. Nature doesn't
>> give a damn about your definitions.

>All objects or processes (except light according to you and the physicists)
>obey my definition.

No, they don't.  Quit making up crap.

>Nature doesn't give a damn about your exception.

Nature certainly doesn't give a damn about all your assertions (which are
not evidence).

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Re: Reality versus Math Eckard B <eckard.blumschein@arcor.de> - 2017-06-05 22:49 -0700
  Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-06 07:56 +0200
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      Re: Reality versus Math Groupie <einstein.groupie69@gmail.com> - 2017-06-06 02:21 -0700
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                Re: Reality versus Math JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-07 13:51 -0700
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                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-07 14:16 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-07 14:30 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-07 14:45 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-07 13:22 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-07 13:52 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-07 15:49 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-07 14:09 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-08 06:27 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-08 12:16 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-08 12:52 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-08 15:27 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-08 23:13 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-09 07:55 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Jim Limey <eeug@dnne.ri> - 2017-06-09 15:18 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-09 15:58 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-09 14:02 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Kitubu Nkyaku <akntuu@buwkau.kk> - 2017-06-09 19:10 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Kitubu Nkyaku <akntuu@buwkau.kk> - 2017-06-09 19:12 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-10 16:26 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-09 12:54 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-10 09:15 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-08 15:29 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-08 23:23 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-08 11:56 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-08 13:30 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-08 21:00 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-08 16:35 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-08 15:00 -0700
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                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-09 07:25 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-09 08:06 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-09 12:51 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Jim Limey <eeug@dnne.ri> - 2017-06-09 14:35 +0000
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                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-06 22:53 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-07 12:53 -0700

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