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Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False

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kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>On Tuesday, October 18, 2016 at 8:15:18 PM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>> >> No, stupid Ken. The second IS a universal interval of time,
>> 
>> >Idiot....you don't even know the meaning of "a universal interval of time".
>> 
>> Of course I do, Stupid Ken. 

>No you don't.

I do, Idiot Ken.  The definition of a second is 9,192,631,770 periods of a
LOCAL NONMOVING cesium-133 atom.  That is a universal interval of time.

>>I have no idea what YOU call a "universal 
>> interval of time", since you have a bad habit of making up your own
>> definitions for existing words and phrases, and expect everyone else to
>> use your definition rather than the real one.

>Universal interval of time means that the passage of a unit of clock time
>(such as a clock second) is corresponded to the passage of a clock second
>in all relatively moving clocks.

Just as I said. You made up your own definition of what a universal interval of
time, or second is, which is NOT the definition that scientists and engineers
use.  Because you are using the wrong definition, you disagree with a lot of
things science says, because those things are correct in the proper definition
but wrong in your made-up definition.

Once again, the definition of a second is 9,192,631,770 periods of a
LOCAL NONMOVING cesium-133 atom.

>> > If a second is a universal interval of TIME, then the prediction of the SR
>> > math that one second on the moving  clock is equal to gamma seconds on the
>> > observer's clock is wrong.
>> 
>> First, Stupid Ken, I am not talking about any predictions, I am talking
>> about actual observations and measurements.  Second, I already said that
>> the second reference has to be local and stationary, otherwise SR/GR
>> effects will affect the measurements.  That's part of the definition.

>Idiot....actual observations say that a moving clock second is corresponded to
>gamma clock seconds on the observer's clock and therefore a clock second is
>not a universal interval of time as claimed by you and Tom Roberts.

No, Stupid Ken.  That is not how a universal interval of time is defined.
If A and B both have cesium clocks and A and B move with a velocity v
relative to each other, A will see a second as being 9,192,631,770 periods
on his (local, stationary) clock, and B will see a second as being
9,192,631,770 periods on his (local, stationary) clock, but A will see B's
clock as slow, because B's clock is not stationary wrt A.  B will see A's
clock as slow because A's clock is not stationary wrt B.

>> >>but, just like
>> >> length, relativistic effects will affect how other observers see it.
>> 
>> >Idiot relativistic effect on length is not accumulative.....a meter stick
>> >will return the same length after a journey whereas a clock will return 
>> >with different accumulated clock seconds after a journey.
>> 
>> Irrelevant.  We can use an odometer (which is accumulative) and a clock.
>> Or we will use a meter stick and a moving oscillator rather than a moving
>> clock.  In fact the examples already do that. They talk about the tick
>> rate of moving clocks (essentially an oscillator) rather than the 
>> accumulated time (what time the clock says).

>No idiot we are taking about a moving clock and a moving meter stick.

YOU may be doing so, but science talks about the tick rate of the clock,
not what time it reads.

>> So, we consider a meter "a universal interval of length" yet we see a
>> meter stick will shorten when measured moving at high speed.

>No idiot the meter stick is not shortened.....

Not in its own frame, but in a frame moving wrt it it is definitely
shortened. I was talking about a MOVING meter stick.
Anyway, my statement stands. A meter is a universal interval of length,
but a moving meter stick will be shorter than a meter in the stationary
frame.

>> > of a moving meter stick remains the same
>> > as the observer's meter stick. In SR the geometric projection of a moving
>> >meter stick is predicted to be 
>> 
>> No, stupid Ken, we will measure it, not predict it.  Anyone can predict
>> anything they want, predictions are meaningless.

>Idiot it is not feasible to measure the length of a moving meter stick.
>Gee you are so stupid.

No, Idiot Ken. That has been explained to you many times.  Just because
YOU don't understand how to measure moving things doesn't mean everyone
else doesn't understand how to do it.

>> >> Does that mean a meter is not a universal interval of length?
>> 
>> >Idiot....the material length
>> 
>> Meaningless, as "material length" is not used in SR anywhere.

>ROTFLOL.....so according to you material length has no meaning because SR
>don't use it? We use material length to measure length every day.....gee
>you are so stupid.

Science doesn't use that term.  Since you make up your own definitions of
words and phrases, I don't know nor care what your personal made-up
definition of "material length" is.

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  Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-10-16 11:17 -0500
    Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-10-16 22:53 +0200
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                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-18 10:44 -0500
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-10-18 11:57 -0700
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                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-19 09:32 -0500
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-10-19 00:15 +0000
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                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-10-26 20:41 -0500
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-10-27 11:43 +0200
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                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 08:33 -0500
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                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False Nick <nick@nick.nick> - 2016-11-02 13:47 +0000
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                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-10-21 13:02 -0500
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                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False Jim Barthel <jimbart@portlanportal.info> - 2016-10-21 19:54 +0000
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-10-21 21:39 +0200
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 15:08 -0500
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-10-22 08:57 -0700
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-10-23 22:12 -0500
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-10-23 23:28 -0700
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-10-24 08:53 -0700
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-10-25 02:55 +0000
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-10-25 06:51 -0700
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-25 08:01 -0700
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-10-26 06:12 -0700
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False Walter Bautista <wabau@outlookbay.org> - 2016-10-26 14:32 +0000
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-10-26 05:24 +0000
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-10-26 06:03 -0700
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-10-26 15:44 +0000
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-25 07:46 -0500
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-10-25 06:51 -0700
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-10-25 14:23 -0500
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-10-26 06:00 -0700
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False Walter Bautista <wabau@outlookbay.org> - 2016-10-26 14:34 +0000
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-27 09:56 -0500
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-10-27 08:16 -0700
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-27 16:15 -0500
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-10-28 06:46 -0700
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-10-28 15:07 +0000
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                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-29 17:11 -0500
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                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-03 07:05 -0700
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-03 07:37 -0700
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-11-03 10:06 -0800
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-11-02 08:21 -0700
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 08:13 -0500
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-11-02 08:13 -0700
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False Nick <nick@nick.nick> - 2016-11-02 15:16 +0000
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-27 09:56 -0500
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-10-27 08:20 -0700
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 16:12 -0500
            Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-10-17 23:43 -0700
              Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-10-19 12:48 -0700
                Re: Tom Roberts' Assertion on the Concept of Time Dilation is False mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-10-20 05:48 -0700

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