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Re: How is time really organized

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: How is time really organized
Date 2026-07-23 07:33 +0200
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Am Mittwoch000022, 22.07.2026 um 09:41 schrieb Maciej Woźniak:
> On 7/22/2026 8:28 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am Montag000020, 20.07.2026 um 08:28 schrieb Maciej Woźniak:
>>> On 7/20/2026 7:37 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>
>>>>>> no it's not; it's a event stamp regarding an unachievable 
>>>>>> reference of the
>>>>>> past. Time is something completely else.
>>>>>
>>>>> In physics, there is such such thing as an "event stamp".
>>>>>
>>>>> An event is a point of (a) spacetime: it has a location in space 
>>>>> and a time.
>>>>>   The date above lacks a location, so it is just _a_ time (based on 
>>>>> a time
>>>>> standard, UTC) -- but not time itself, which is a physical quantity.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, spacetime is 'coordinates free'.
>>>>
>>>> You need an 'anchor point' to define space and time, because points 
>>>> do not carry labels or calendars.
>>>
>>> For an ape they don't. For a human they do.
>>>
>>
>> Has anybody ever found 'labels' at locations in outer space, which 
>> state, where you actually are?
>>
>> Actually: no, since no such thing exists.
>>
>> Instead, you need reference points, if you want to measure or define 
>> distances.
>>
>> Same with time:
>>
>> time is always (and always was of or will be) 'relative'.
> 
> Union of Lublin: 1569-07-01
> Battle of Lepanto: 1571-10-07
> The Boston tea party: 1773-12-16
> and so on.


You name some events and their usual dates.

Ok, so far so good.

But these dates are by no means universal, because they are all 'Earth 
based'.

But even on our own home planets there exist other systems to write 
dates, which would describe the same events by totaly different numbers.


> Sorry, dealing with your moronic physics has
> completely ruined your contact with the reality.
> 

I would express the same idea with slightly different words:

your moronic reality has completely ruined your contact with physics


TH

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              Re: How is time really organized The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-07-23 09:26 -0700
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          Re: How is time really organized Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-07-22 08:28 +0200
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              Re: How is time really organized Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-07-23 07:33 +0200
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