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Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks

From Muddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org>
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Subject Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks
Date 2016-02-10 22:50 +0000
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Il giorno Gary Harnagel ha scritto:

>> Einstein was a plagiarizing fool.
> 
> The real fool here is "Wilson" who believes the idiocy of his BaTHwater.
> And then we have the proof that "Wilson" is a reality-denying fool:

Of course LIGO will "discover" gravitational waves sooner or later. 
Einstein's relativity cannot survive unless experimental fraud regularly 
boosts it. Eddington's 1919 fraud, Eddington and Adams' 1925 fraud, Pound 
and Rebka's 1960 fraud, Alväger's 1964 fraud, Hafele and Keating's 1971 
fraud... the list is long. Just an example:

http://preterism.ning.com/forum/topics/can-we-trust-the-data
"Consider the case of astronomer Walter Adams. In 1925 he tested 
Einstein's theory of relativity by measuring the red shift of the binary 
companion of Sirius, brightest star in the sky. Einstein's theory 
predicted a red shift of six parts in a hundred thousand; Adams found just 
such an effect. A triumph for relativity. However, in 1971, with updated 
estimates of the mass and radius of Sirius, it was found that the 
predicted red shift should have been much larger - 28 parts in a hundred 
thousand. Later observations of the red shift did indeed measure this 
amount, showing that Adams' observations were flawed. He "saw" what he had 
expected to see." 

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A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-09 12:27 +1100
  Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-09 13:22 +1100
    Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-08 23:03 -0800
      Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-02-09 08:01 -0800
        Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-09 18:43 +0100
    Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-09 19:42 +1100
  Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-02-09 08:19 -0800
    Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Heiðr Einherjar <einherjar@notformail.org> - 2016-02-09 16:52 +0000
      Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-02-09 12:34 -0800
        Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-10 08:52 +1100
        Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Heiðr Einherjar <einherjar@notformail.org> - 2016-02-10 15:15 +0000
    Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-09 11:02 -0600
      Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-02-09 12:40 -0800
        Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-09 22:06 +0100
          Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-02-09 13:43 -0800
            Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-09 23:33 -0800
              Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-02-10 08:02 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-10 18:22 +0100
        Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-10 09:06 +1100
          Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-02-09 20:02 -0800
            Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-10 20:05 +1100
              Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-10 01:08 -0800
              Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-10 04:51 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Muddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org> - 2016-02-10 22:50 +0000
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks oriel36 <kelleher.gerald@gmail.com> - 2016-02-10 15:13 -0800
      Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-10 00:17 -0800
        Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-02-10 08:09 -0800
      Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Muddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org> - 2016-02-10 22:54 +0000
        Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-10 17:15 -0600
          Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Muddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org> - 2016-02-10 23:58 +0000
          Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-10 22:58 -0800
            Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-11 05:18 -0800
              Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Muddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org> - 2016-02-11 13:30 +0000
              Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Muddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org> - 2016-02-11 13:31 +0000
        Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-11 00:31 +0100
  Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-09 20:23 -0800
  Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-09 20:24 -0800
    Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-09 20:27 -0800
      Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-10 20:07 +1100
  Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-13 09:41 -0600
    Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-14 10:06 +0100
      Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-14 04:51 -0800
        Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-14 15:53 +0100
          Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-02-14 08:16 -0800
            Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-14 08:26 -0800
              Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-14 17:46 +0100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-14 08:50 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-15 18:40 +0100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-17 09:18 +1100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-16 23:08 -0800
            Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-14 17:48 +0100
              Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-02-14 10:02 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Céline Desirée Hedwig <celinedh@bernhardine.org> - 2016-02-14 20:54 +0000
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-02-14 18:07 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Monique de Brabant <moniqb@cafedelmar.org> - 2016-02-16 15:30 +0000
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-16 23:57 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-17 00:09 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-17 00:44 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-19 08:08 +1100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-18 16:45 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-19 19:57 +1100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-19 11:34 +0100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-20 08:42 +0000
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-19 06:55 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-20 07:23 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-21 10:22 +0000
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 05:17 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-21 19:50 +0000
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-22 07:03 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-23 20:09 +1100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-23 05:33 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-23 05:57 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-15 18:43 +0100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Céline Desirée Hedwig <celinedh@bernhardine.org> - 2016-02-15 17:48 +0000
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-15 16:32 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-16 02:36 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 03:29 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-16 04:15 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 05:11 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-16 05:47 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-16 05:15 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-16 05:39 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-16 06:55 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-16 07:01 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-16 07:44 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Monique de Brabant <moniqb@cafedelmar.org> - 2016-02-16 15:47 +0000
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-16 18:12 +0100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 09:27 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-16 18:54 +0100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-16 10:27 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-16 20:09 +0100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-16 11:26 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-16 20:31 +0100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Monique de Brabant <moniqb@cafedelmar.org> - 2016-02-16 21:01 +0000
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Monique de Brabant <moniqb@cafedelmar.org> - 2016-02-16 15:35 +0000
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-16 07:43 -0800
        Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Celine Desiree Hedwig <celinedh@bernhardine.org> - 2016-02-14 20:50 +0000
    Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-16 13:44 -0800
    Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-16 22:59 +0000
      Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-16 19:33 -0800
        Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-17 09:26 +0000
          Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-17 18:38 -0800
      Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-17 07:34 -0800
        Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-17 17:49 +0000
          Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-17 13:07 -0800
            Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-18 16:11 +0000
              Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-18 08:29 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-20 09:06 +0000
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-20 11:53 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-21 10:38 +0000
      Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Monique de Brabant <moniqb@cafedelmar.org> - 2016-02-17 18:43 +0000
        Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-18 11:38 +0100
          Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Monique de Brabant <moniqb@cafedelmar.org> - 2016-02-18 15:40 +0000
          Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-18 16:13 +0000
            Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-18 23:17 +0100
              Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-19 19:54 +1100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-19 11:30 +0100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-19 02:36 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 05:43 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-20 09:11 +0000
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-20 12:06 +0100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-20 18:46 +0000
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Stzepan Zdrobněliny <stzepan282@guadalajara.org> - 2016-02-20 19:02 +0000
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-21 08:51 +0100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-21 09:26 +0100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-21 10:46 +0000
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-21 12:49 +0100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-21 20:06 +0000
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-21 23:13 +0100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-23 20:06 +1100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-23 12:01 +0100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-23 10:08 -0600
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-23 20:10 +0100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-24 09:36 +1100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-23 20:14 +0100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-24 09:39 +1100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Stzepan Zdrobněliny <stzepan282@guadalajara.org> - 2016-02-23 23:03 +0000
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-02 09:31 +0000
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-24 09:31 +1100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-23 17:43 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-23 18:29 -0800
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-24 10:03 +0100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-25 20:08 +1100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-25 16:40 +0100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-26 08:16 +1100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-26 10:19 +0100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-27 08:21 +1100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-27 09:40 +0100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-28 10:00 +1100
                Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-28 09:37 +0100
            Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 08:28 -0600
      Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-21 05:57 -0800
        Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-23 20:11 +1100
          Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-23 05:37 -0800
          Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-23 05:40 -0800
            Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-24 09:42 +1100
              Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-23 15:15 -0800
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