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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation |
| Date | 2015-10-15 13:17 +0000 |
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| Message-ID | <mvo90e$vu1$1@pcls7.std.com> (permalink) |
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kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes: >> >Wrong....the speed part is +7us/day and the gravitational effect >> >is -45us/day for a total of -38us/day. >> >> The GPS system is a GR problem. I'm not sure if it's 100% accurate to try >> to divide it into a motion-only SR problem and a gravitational field only >> GR problem, but here goes. >> >> Since the satellite sees the earth's surface as in motion, the speed part >> will be -7 us/day. >No....the satellite experienced acceleration so it predicts the speed >part for the earth clock to be +7 us/day running fast. The satellite experiences acceleration, yes, which is why I said breaking this problem down into two may not be 100% accurate. However, if the acceleration is small enough, the satellite will see the earth's surface whizzing by at the same speed we on earth see the satellite whiz by. Therefore the SR effect will be the same, -7 us/day. -7 us/day + -45 us/day = -52 us/day.
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Testing of SR mutual time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-10-12 06:25 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-12 13:43 +0000
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-10-12 07:24 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2015-10-12 19:44 +0200
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-10-12 10:31 -0500
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-12 17:21 +0000
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-12 17:22 +0000
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-12 17:24 +0000
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 10:35 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-10-12 12:44 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-10-12 22:20 -0500
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-10-14 05:57 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-10-14 15:21 -0400
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-10-14 12:49 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation alsor@interia.pl - 2015-10-22 06:04 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-22 11:22 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-12 21:23 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-12 21:28 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 10:40 -0500
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-10-12 12:17 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 16:34 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 07:43 -0500
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-10-14 05:37 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-14 05:54 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-10-14 12:58 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-14 13:18 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-10-15 06:35 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-15 06:55 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-10-15 17:46 +0200
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-10-15 04:16 +0000
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-10-15 06:01 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-10-15 13:17 +0000
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-10-15 09:12 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-10-15 17:30 +0000
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-10-16 10:15 -0500
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-16 15:23 +0000
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-10-17 09:09 -0500
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-17 14:37 +0000
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 09:50 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-10-16 09:48 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-10-16 18:06 +0000
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-10-16 14:49 -0400
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-16 19:25 +0000
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 15:05 -0500
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 13:14 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-10-16 18:34 -0400
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-10-17 09:19 -0500
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 12:25 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-10-17 11:15 -0500
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-10-17 18:45 +0200
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation alsor@interia.pl - 2015-10-22 07:39 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-22 11:23 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-16 19:30 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-10-25 07:27 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-10-25 07:34 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Juan Esteban <esteju@freecannabis.org> - 2015-10-25 15:17 +0000
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-10-25 18:48 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-10-25 19:04 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-10-16 10:05 -0500
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-10-16 18:14 +0200
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 09:42 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-10-16 10:04 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-10-17 09:29 -0500
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-10-17 17:06 +0200
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-10-18 09:07 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 08:50 -0500
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-10-14 22:19 -0500
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 20:28 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-10-15 06:20 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-16 19:18 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 08:58 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation alsor@interia.pl - 2015-10-12 17:22 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2015-10-12 17:56 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2015-10-13 06:28 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-10-13 08:40 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2015-10-14 09:07 +0200
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 19:15 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2015-10-18 09:33 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-10-25 06:07 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation shuba <tim@sh.uba> - 2015-10-25 19:16 +0000
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 05:09 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-10-26 08:21 -0400
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation shuba <tim@sh.uba> - 2015-10-26 21:41 +0000
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 19:28 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2015-10-26 08:52 -0700
Re: Testing of SR mutual time dilation John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-12 20:59 -0700
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