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Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity?

From Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity?
Date 2015-08-12 21:15 +0200
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Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
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On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 7:45:38 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup
> dyskusyjnych:b7dcd87b-ee24-4b33-9620-b252564e24ca@googlegroups.com...
>
> |Do you yell at everyone "You pretend you are a guru!" every single
> |time you are told you've made a mistake?
>
> No. I'm telling it to every moron telling me, quoting,
> "for you I'm a guru!", however.


| And yes, judging by your technical competence on
|relativity, to you I am at the guru level. It's not bragging, it's just a

So don't be surprised you're a moron pretending
a guru for me.

> The only error you pointed
> was in my quoting from your moronic wikipedy, and you did never
> tell, what exactly is errorneous in it (nothing, of course, as it was a
> correct statement of your shit).
> You can only yell.

|I'll see if I can dig up this exchange. The way I remember it you claimed
|free-falling object in the Schwarzschild metric won't cross the horizon.

You conveniently forgot to add here that this was "from the point of
view of a distant observer" claim.


|This is well-known to be false in GR so it could not have been a Wikipedia
|quote as you claim

I will spare you searching.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole - quoting:
To a distant observer, clocks near a black hole appear to tick more
slowly than those further away from the black hole.[50] Due to this
effect, known as gravitational time dilation, an object falling into a
black hole appears to slow down as it approaches the event horizon,
taking an infinite time to reach it
end of quoting.
Now, tell me, poor idiot, are you a distant observer, or an observer
in a vincinity of the horizon? If you are a distant one - to you objects
will cross the horizon after infinite time, i.e. never. So said your
shit. Howgh!
You should agree even with the statement without condition
"from the point of view of a distant observer". But, of course,
you're just an  incompetent, yelling moron. Samely, as any of
your moronic followers of your self-inconsistent insane shit. 

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  Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 13:59 -0500
    Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Emmerich Schultheiß <emme@noemail.thx> - 2015-08-08 19:16 +0000
      Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Emmerich Schultheiß <emme@noemail.thx> - 2015-08-08 19:55 +0000
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  Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Emmerich Schultheiß <emme@noemail.thx> - 2015-08-08 19:02 +0000
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    Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-09 01:25 -0400
      Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Emmerich Schultheiß <emme@noemail.thx> - 2015-08-09 12:54 +0000
      Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 09:07 -0500
  Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2015-08-09 09:52 +0200
    Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Emmerich Schultheiß <emme@noemail.thx> - 2015-08-09 12:50 +0000
      Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-09 09:20 -0400
        Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Emmerich Schultheiß <emme@noemail.thx> - 2015-08-09 13:35 +0000
  Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Mikko <mikko.levanto@outlook.com> - 2015-08-09 17:22 +0300
  Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 12:14 -0700
    Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-10 21:31 +0200
      Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 12:56 -0700
        Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-10 22:08 +0200
          Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 14:17 -0700
            Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-11 16:54 +0200
  H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 13:21 -0700
    Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-10 22:51 +0200
      Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 19:47 -0700
        Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-10 23:18 -0400
        Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 21:12 -0700
          Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 21:49 -0700
          Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-11 17:11 +0200
        Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-11 17:08 +0200
          Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 10:50 -0700
            Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-11 20:50 +0200
              Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 12:06 -0700
                Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-11 21:24 +0200
                Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-11 21:29 +0200
                Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 13:41 -0700
                Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-12 16:45 +0200
                Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 10:33 -0700
                Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-12 19:46 +0200
                Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 10:57 -0700
                Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-12 21:15 +0200
                Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 12:49 -0700
                Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-12 22:16 +0200
                Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 15:28 -0700
                Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-13 17:01 +0200
                Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 11:24 -0700
                Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-14 20:52 +0200
              Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 12:31 -0700
                Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-11 21:39 +0200
                Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 15:27 -0500
                Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 13:47 -0700
                Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 15:57 -0500
                Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-12 02:33 -0400
                Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 08:43 -0500
                Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-12 12:12 -0400
                Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 11:31 -0500
                Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-12 14:05 -0400
                Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 14:14 -0500
  H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 13:32 -0700
    Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 15:56 -0500
      Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 19:43 -0700
        Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 07:42 -0500
          Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 11:12 -0700
            Re: H. G. Wells, the father of Relativity? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 13:11 -0700
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