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Re: I Feel Slighted

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: I Feel Slighted
Date	2015-08-05 12:05 -0500
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On 8/5/2015 10:55 AM, kefischer wrote:
>          Except the argument started about
> whether the object "stopped", or was
> constantly accelerating.
>
>          The idea that it slows, stops, and
> begins moving in the opposite direction
> is Newtonian, which you learned in
> grade school.
>
>         The use of the "a" for acceleration
> means it is dynamics with a force acting,
> not force-free kinematics.

All of this is wrong.

The use of "a" for acceleration is a purely kinematic expression and has 
nothing whatsoever to do with dynamics, Newtonian or otherwise. There 
are no forces presumed.

The idea that something slows, stops, and turns around is nothing more 
than the DEFINITION of a parabola, which is a mathematical form that has 
a point where there is a zero first derivative (that's a calculus term; 
physically it corresponds to velocity) and nonzero second derivative 
(physically corresponding to acceleration).

You, Ken, are easily confused into thinking that basic physics concepts 
like acceleration or field somehow are linked to Newtonian forces, when 
nothing could be further from the truth. You are lacking in these basic 
concepts, having never been educated in them.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Re: I Feel Slighted Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 20:27 -0500
  Re: I Feel Slighted kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-01 00:10 -0400
    Re: I Feel Slighted Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-01 04:51 -0700
      Re: I Feel Slighted kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-01 08:11 -0400
    Re: I Feel Slighted Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 17:05 -0500
      Re: I Feel Slighted kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-02 19:12 -0400
        Re: I Feel Slighted Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-02 19:48 -0700
          Re: I Feel Slighted kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-03 01:29 -0400
            Re: I Feel Slighted Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-03 04:35 -0700
              Re: I Feel Slighted kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-03 08:12 -0400
                Re: I Feel Slighted Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-03 08:21 -0700
                Re: I Feel Slighted Bohuš Matuška <bohu@paranetnet.net> - 2015-08-03 15:37 +0000
                Re: I Feel Slighted Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-04 21:52 +0200
                Re: I Feel Slighted Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 15:00 -0500
                Re: I Feel Slighted Bohuš Matuška <bohu@paranetnet.net> - 2015-08-04 20:16 +0000
                Re: I Feel Slighted kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-04 16:37 -0400
                Re: I Feel Slighted Bohuš Matuška <bohu@paranetnet.net> - 2015-08-04 20:46 +0000
                Re: I Feel Slighted Bohuš Matuška <bohu@paranetnet.net> - 2015-08-04 20:57 +0000
                Re: I Feel Slighted Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-04 14:58 -0700
                Re: I Feel Slighted Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-04 23:51 +0200
                Re: I Feel Slighted Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-04 15:02 -0700
                Re: I Feel Slighted kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-04 23:55 -0400
                Re: I Feel Slighted Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-05 05:09 -0700
                Re: I Feel Slighted kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-05 08:42 -0400
                Re: I Feel Slighted Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 08:21 -0500
                Re: I Feel Slighted Bohuš Matuška <bohu@paranetnet.net> - 2015-08-05 13:26 +0000
                Re: I Feel Slighted kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-05 12:06 -0400
                Re: I Feel Slighted Bohuš Matuška <bohu@paranetnet.net> - 2015-08-05 16:18 +0000
                Re: I Feel Slighted Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-05 06:26 -0700
                Re: I Feel Slighted kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-05 12:23 -0400
                Re: I Feel Slighted Bohuš Matuška <bohu@paranetnet.net> - 2015-08-05 16:31 +0000
                Re: I Feel Slighted Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-05 10:33 -0700
                Re: I Feel Slighted Bohuš Matuška <bohu@paranetnet.net> - 2015-08-05 13:33 +0000
                Re: I Feel Slighted kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-05 12:05 -0400
                Re: I Feel Slighted Bohuš Matuška <bohu@paranetnet.net> - 2015-08-05 16:21 +0000
                Re: I Feel Slighted Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 16:48 +0200
                Re: I Feel Slighted kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-05 11:55 -0400
                Re: I Feel Slighted Bohuš Matuška <bohu@paranetnet.net> - 2015-08-05 16:01 +0000
                Re: I Feel Slighted Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 18:23 +0200
                Re: I Feel Slighted Bohuš Matuška <bohu@paranetnet.net> - 2015-08-05 16:33 +0000
                Re: I Feel Slighted Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 18:44 +0200
                Re: I Feel Slighted Bohuš Matuška <bohu@paranetnet.net> - 2015-08-05 16:56 +0000
                Re: I Feel Slighted Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 22:32 +0200
                Re: I Feel Slighted Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 22:38 +0200
                Re: I Feel Slighted Emmerich Schultheiß <emme@noemail.thx> - 2015-08-07 12:50 +0000
                Re: I Feel Slighted Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 12:05 -0500
                Re: I Feel Slighted Ignorant Raving Crackpot <ignorantravingcrackpot@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 07:52 -0700
                Re: I Feel Slighted kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-05 11:39 -0400
                Re: I Feel Slighted Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-05 08:50 -0700
                Re: I Feel Slighted Ignorant Raving Crackpot <ignorantravingcrackpot@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 17:28 -0700
                Re: I Feel Slighted kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-05 22:14 -0400
                Re: I Feel Slighted pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-08-05 19:43 -0700
                Re: I Feel Slighted kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-05 23:46 -0400
                Re: I Feel Slighted Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-06 05:03 -0700
                Re: I Feel Slighted kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-06 10:05 -0400
                Re: I Feel Slighted Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-06 08:04 -0700
                Re: I Feel Slighted Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-06 13:00 -0500
                Re: I Feel Slighted Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-06 12:07 -0700
                Re: I Feel Slighted kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-06 15:24 -0400
                Re: I Feel Slighted Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 15:30 -0500
                Re: I Feel Slighted Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-06 13:38 -0700
                Re: I Feel Slighted Emmerich Schultheiß <emme@noemail.thx> - 2015-08-07 13:27 +0000
                Re: I Feel Slighted paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 06:30 -0700
                Re: I Feel Slighted Emmerich Schultheiß <emme@noemail.thx> - 2015-08-07 13:45 +0000
                Re: I Feel Slighted paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 07:29 -0700
                Re: I Feel Slighted Emmerich Schultheiß <emme@noemail.thx> - 2015-08-07 17:24 +0000
                Re: I Feel Slighted kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-07 11:25 -0400
                Re: I Feel Slighted Emmerich Schultheiß <emme@noemail.thx> - 2015-08-07 17:16 +0000
                Re: I Feel Slighted kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-09 16:03 -0700
                Re: I Feel Slighted Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-09 22:05 -0500
                Re: I Feel Slighted Ignorant Raving Crackpot <ignorantravingcrackpot@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 20:50 -0700
                Re: I Feel Slighted kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-06 03:35 -0400
                Re: I Feel Slighted Ignorant Raving Crackpot <ignorantravingcrackpot@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 05:15 -0700
                Re: I Feel Slighted Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-06 08:43 -0500
                Re: I Feel Slighted Ignorant Raving Crackpot <ignorantravingcrackpot@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 07:24 -0700
                Re: I Feel Slighted kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-06 14:02 -0400
                Re: I Feel Slighted Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-06 12:17 -0700
                Re: I Feel Slighted kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-06 15:30 -0400
                Re: I Feel Slighted Ignorant Raving Crackpot <ignorantravingcrackpot@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 02:39 -0700
                Re: I Feel Slighted Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 07:25 -0500
                Re: I Feel Slighted Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-09 15:28 +0200
                Re: I Feel Slighted Emmerich Schultheiß <emme@noemail.thx> - 2015-08-09 13:42 +0000
                Re: I Feel Slighted Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 09:11 -0500
                Re: I Feel Slighted Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-16 15:37 +0200
                Re: I Feel Slighted Eteocles Panagakos <eteoclespd@prospernetwork.org> - 2015-08-16 13:51 +0000
                Re: I Feel Slighted Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 07:17 -0500
                Re: I Feel Slighted Bohuš Matuška <bohu@paranetnet.net> - 2015-08-04 20:13 +0000
                Re: I Feel Slighted kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-04 16:38 -0400
                Re: I Feel Slighted Bohuš Matuška <bohu@paranetnet.net> - 2015-08-04 20:44 +0000
                Re: I Feel Slighted kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-04 16:29 -0400
                Re: I Feel Slighted Bohuš Matuška <bohu@paranetnet.net> - 2015-08-04 20:39 +0000
        Re: I Feel Slighted Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 09:08 -0500
  Re: I Feel Slighted kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-02 06:02 -0400
    Re: I Feel Slighted Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 09:06 -0500

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