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Re: Why Antirelativists Worship Einstein's 1905 Second Postulate

From whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
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Subject Re: Why Antirelativists Worship Einstein's 1905 Second Postulate
Date 2023-08-08 12:54 -0500
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On 8/8/2023 12:10 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 1:53:51 AM UTC-7, Pentcho Valev wrote:
>> Antirelativists repudiate any aspect of Einstein's theory except for his 1905 false constant-speed-of-light postulate. Actually, they worship this postulate. Why? Because they are all etherists and Einstein "borrowed" the postulate from the ether theory:
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>> Albert Einstein: "I introduced the principle of the constancy of the velocity of light, which I borrowed from H. A. Lorentz's theory of the stationary luminiferous ether." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_ether_theory
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>> Banesh Hoffmann, Relativity and Its Roots, p.92: "Moreover, if light consists of particles, as Einstein had suggested in his paper submitted just thirteen weeks before this one, the second principle seems absurd: A stone thrown from a speeding train can do far more damage than one thrown from a train at rest; the speed of the particle is not independent of the motion of the object emitting it. And if we take light to consist of particles and assume that these particles obey Newton's laws, they will conform to Newtonian relativity and thus automatically account for the null result of the Michelson-Morley experiment without recourse to contracting lengths, local time, or Lorentz transformations. Yet, as we have seen, Einstein resisted the temptation to account for the null result in terms of particles of light and simple, familiar Newtonian ideas, and introduced as his second postulate something that was more or less obvious when thought of in terms of waves in an ether. If it was so obvious, though, why did he need to state it as a principle? Because, having taken from the idea of light waves in the ether the one aspect that he needed, he declared early in his paper, to quote his own words, that "the introduction of a 'luminiferous ether' will prove to be superfluous." https://www.amazon.com/Relativity-Its-Roots-Banesh-Hoffmann/dp/0486406768
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>> Pentcho Valev https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev

> I missed your posts for weeks now and so did some true believers.

By that you must mean those who disbelieve your idols.

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Why Antirelativists Worship Einstein's 1905 Second Postulate Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-08 01:53 -0700
  Re: Why Antirelativists Worship Einstein's 1905 Second Postulate Wallace Awturkhanoff <fuhc@fhacllat.ew> - 2023-08-08 14:33 +0000
  Re: Why Antirelativists Worship Einstein's 1905 Second Postulate patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-08-08 09:09 -0700
  Re: Why Antirelativists Worship Einstein's 1905 Second Postulate Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-08 09:46 -0700
    Re: Why Antirelativists Worship Einstein's 1905 Second Postulate whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-08 12:53 -0500
    Re: Why Antirelativists Worship Einstein's 1905 Second Postulate Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-08 11:11 -0700
      Re: Why Antirelativists Worship Einstein's 1905 Second Postulate whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-08 15:23 -0500
    Re: Why Antirelativists Worship Einstein's 1905 Second Postulate Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2023-08-09 11:27 +0300
    Re: Why Antirelativists Worship Einstein's 1905 Second Postulate Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-08-11 08:59 -0500
      Re: Why Antirelativists Worship Einstein's 1905 Second Postulate Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-11 18:04 +0200
      Re: Why Antirelativists Worship Einstein's 1905 Second Postulate nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-11 18:08 +0200
        Re: Why Antirelativists Worship Einstein's 1905 Second Postulate "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-12 12:56 -0700
  Re: Why Antirelativists Worship Einstein's 1905 Second Postulate Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-08 10:10 -0700
    Re: Why Antirelativists Worship Einstein's 1905 Second Postulate whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-08 12:54 -0500
      Re: Why Antirelativists Worship Einstein's 1905 Second Postulate Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-08 11:08 -0700
        Re: Why Antirelativists Worship Einstein's 1905 Second Postulate whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-08 15:17 -0500
  Re: Why Antirelativists Worship Einstein's 1905 Second Postulate Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 06:29 -0700

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