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Re: Google Bard AI: What are the real contributions of relativity to modern society?

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On 7/20/2023 5:05 PM, Volney wrote:
> On 7/20/2023 4:23 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> 
>> Frequency is universally accepted to be a direct measure of the speed 
>> of sound as in ambulance sirens, giving S + V.
> 
> But light isn't sound, is it. Sound is a wave in a medium and travels at 
> a speed relative to the medium. Light isn't.
> 
> Coming up with the luminiferous aether which existed to transport light 
> like sound waves and for light to move relative to, probably set physics 
> back a decade or two.

Einstein threw up his hands and said some form of ether exists but
he didn't know what it is.

Partial quote:

"According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is
unthinkable; for in such space there not only would be no propagation of
light, but also no possibility of existence for standards of space and
time (measuring-rods and clocks), nor therefore any space-time intervals
in the physical sense. But this ether may not be thought of as endowed
with the quality characteristic of ponderable media, as consisting of
parts which may be tracked through time. The idea of motion may not be
applied to it."


https://mathshistory.st-andrews.ac.uk/Extras/Einstein_ether/

BTW, Laurence's understanding is quite limited. Sound is the actual
manipulation of a medium where light appears to move from one
transmitting medium to another unimpeded. e.g air to water to air
again. Sound sustains significant losses during similar motion.

There is *no* rational equivalency between light and sound.

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