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Re: Google Bard AI: What are the real contributions of relativity to modern society?

From	whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: Google Bard AI: What are the real contributions of relativity to modern society?
Date	2023-07-19 15:41 -0500
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On 7/19/2023 3:00 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 12:33:21 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
>> On 7/19/2023 2:41 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 9:02:16 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, 19 July 2023 at 01:53:38 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 3:59:30 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 3:30:46 PM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>> What you don't understand is that almost everyone here is laughing at *you*. AI is showing you to be wrong at every turn.
>>>>>>> You are like the guy who is hitting his head against the wall because it feels so good to stop.
>>>>>>> You don't know what you don't know.
>>>>>
>>>>>> You are a pathetic retired relativist loser, who lived a meaningless professional life. Now, what is left for you is to defend your religion,
>>>>>> and try to downplay any person that's against your credence.ht with matter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nah, none of that is true, you are simply projecting again. You don't know the first thing about my professional life... but it was very fulfilling and has provided a comfortable retirement.
>>>>>
>>>>> Still, you don't know what you don't know, just like every other crank around here who thinks he has taken Einstein down a peg or two... and it is not *my* credence, it is mainstream science's theories that you hate...
>>>> Just mainstream physics. Your narcisstic bunch often
>>>> make the equality between your precious physics and
>>>> science... you're just a narcisstic bunch.
>>>>> and that is because you don't actually understand them,
>>>> Come on, Al, nothing is hidden behind your wise faces.
>>>> You're imagining you're a kind of Guardian of the Great
>>>> Mystical Mystery... you're just an insane religious
>>>> maniac.
>>> You know, it is funny they emulate Einstein's reverence for Maxwell's equations, as if they required a denial of light sharing the velocity of the source or worse, out and out denial of any relative velocity for light.
>> Maxwell's Equations are part of what motivated Einstein to investigate
>> what turned out to be SR.
>>
>> Maxwell's Equations also come up with a finite speed of light. It's just
>> a speed, not a speed relative to anything including the observer, the
>> emitter or any aether. Just a speed.
> Every child already knew before Einstein that light had a finite velocity. It was Einstein who claimed light had no additive velocity. There was absolutely no good reason to do this, since he had no ether. The only reason Lorentz and Poincare came up with their transformations was to save the ether from the null result of the MMX. I was pointing to the mindless reverence Einstein showed the Maxwell equations even after he discarded the ether which was implicit in them.

Wrong again. Here's what Einstein said:

"Recapitulating, we may say that according to the general theory of
relativity space is endowed with physical qualities; in this sense,
therefore, there exists an ether."

<https://mathshistory.st-andrews.ac.uk/Extras/Einstein_ether/>

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