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Re: Einstein-Poincare synchronization procedure

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Am 11.05.2017 21:32, schrieb Odd Bodkin:
> On 5/11/17 1:20 PM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am 10.05.2017 16:20, schrieb Jean-Pierre Framboise:
>>> mlwozniak wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't care about your moronic Physics, unfortunately.
>>>> And, notice: - if the above is false - it's worthless - if the above is
>>>> true - it's worthless as well (for non-mathematical aproach).
>>>> Reassuming,
>>>> it's worthless in any case And, assuming the only worthy aproach is
>>>> mathematical aproach,
>>>
>>> You must be thinking math is something mystical. Quite the contrary. The
>>> Math is the simple bit. It is something we DO understand. Cats, are,
>>> what
>>> is complicated. What is it, those eyes, hair, moustache making up a
>>> cat? I
>>> have no idea. Let's be really clear, you look at a cat, but you have no
>>> idea.
>>
>> The problem isn't math, but a disease called 'mathematism'.
>>
>> If you perform mathematical tricks, without a reason to do so, you do
>> something sick.
>>
>> TH
>
> I'm not sure I know what you mean by "mathematical tricks". There are no
> mathematical tricks. There are lots of procedures in mathematics, like
> substitutions, moving things from one side to the other of an equation,
> dividing through by common numbers, taking limits, integrating, and so
> on... But these procedures are all individually both legitimized and
> understood. The end result is always producing something that is easily
> recognized and evaluated. But as long as the steps are individually
> sound, it doesn't matter which of them you take.
>
> It's very much like trying to cross a river, and you choose the next
> rock to jump on to help you get to the other side. First this rock, then
> this next one, then the next one, and so on. The objective isn't the
> rock, it's getting to the other side. Alternatively, you could take a
> different set of stones in a different sequence to do the same thing in
> the end.
>
  What I tried describe is a certain behaviour, which is common in many 
publications about physics:

the proof is attempted by mathematical means, but without proper 
explanation, what is to be proven and why by the used method.

The result is something useless, like performing tricks. It's like 
walking on a rope across the Niagara Falls. This is an impressive stunt, 
but does not serve any obvious purpose.

So, if you do not say, what is the thing about and do not explain, what 
you try to show, the performance is useless - thou impressive.

TH

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Einstein-Poincare synchronization procedure mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-10 02:29 -0700
  Re: Einstein-Poincare synchronization procedure Lissa Hermes <isussui@aeawwih.es> - 2017-05-10 13:18 +0000
    Re: Einstein-Poincare synchronization procedure mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-10 07:00 -0700
      Re: Einstein-Poincare synchronization procedure Jean-Pierre Framboise <nctedetne@ewmnwerwr.cn> - 2017-05-10 14:20 +0000
        Re: Einstein-Poincare synchronization procedure mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-10 09:18 -0700
          Re: Einstein-Poincare synchronization procedure Jean-Pierre Framboise <nctede@pmdcehr.cc> - 2017-05-10 16:28 +0000
            Re: Einstein-Poincare synchronization procedure mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-10 10:12 -0700
        Re: Einstein-Poincare synchronization procedure Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-05-11 20:20 +0200
          Re: Einstein-Poincare synchronization procedure Jean-Pierre Framboise <nctede@pmdcehr.cc> - 2017-05-11 18:23 +0000
          Re: Einstein-Poincare synchronization procedure JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 11:32 -0700
          Re: Einstein-Poincare synchronization procedure Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 14:32 -0500
            Re: Einstein-Poincare synchronization procedure mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-11 21:41 -0700
            Re: Einstein-Poincare synchronization procedure Houchiko Inatsuki <uatci@swckskuwe.io> - 2017-05-12 13:38 +0000
            Re: Einstein-Poincare synchronization procedure Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-05-15 11:34 +0200
              Re: Einstein-Poincare synchronization procedure Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 07:54 -0500
                Re: Einstein-Poincare synchronization procedure Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-05-17 13:27 +0200
                Re: Einstein-Poincare synchronization procedure Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 11:04 -0500
                Re: Einstein-Poincare synchronization procedure Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 18:28 +0200
                Re: Einstein-Poincare synchronization procedure Houchiko Inatsuki <uatci@swckskuwe.io> - 2017-05-19 18:02 +0000
  Re: Einstein-Poincare synchronization procedure JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 14:58 -0700
    Re: Einstein-Poincare synchronization procedure mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-10 23:25 -0700
      Re: Einstein-Poincare synchronization procedure JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 11:07 -0700
        Re: Einstein-Poincare synchronization procedure Jean-Pierre Framboise <nctede@pmdcehr.cc> - 2017-05-11 18:15 +0000

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