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Re: Obvious Violation of the Second Law of Thermodynamics

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Subject Re: Obvious Violation of the Second Law of Thermodynamics
Date Sun, 25 Sep 2016 14:39:11 +1000
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On 24/09/2016 3:05 AM, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> On Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 3:06:27 PM UTC-5, Pentcho Valev wrote:
>> In the following two videos one switches the capacitor on and off and the system can repeatedly lift floating weights:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHNwvfXUYb4
>>   Rise in Liquid Level Between Plates of a Capacitor
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6KAH1JpdPg
>>   Liquid Dielectric Capacitor
>>
>> Switching the capacitor on and off involves no work done on the system
>
> Don't be silly. Of course work is done on the system.
>
>> so the energy for the work done BY the system (if it repeatedly lifts floating weights) can only come from the environmental heat, in violation of the second law of thermodynamics.
>
> No violation of the second law. What makes you fantasize that there is no drain
> on the power source?
>


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Obvious Violation of the Second Law of Thermodynamics Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-22 13:06 -0700
  Re: Obvious Violation of the Second Law of Thermodynamics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 10:05 -0700
    Re: Obvious Violation of the Second Law of Thermodynamics Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-09-25 14:39 +1000
  Re: Obvious Violation of the Second Law of Thermodynamics Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-24 17:21 -0700
    Re: Obvious Violation of the Second Law of Thermodynamics bartekltg <bartekltg@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 10:39 +0200
  Re: Obvious Violation of the Second Law of Thermodynamics bartekltg <bartekltg@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 10:32 +0200

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