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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: GR cannot |
| Date | 2016-08-15 17:03 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <e1d7r0FtidiU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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On 15/08/2016 4:50 PM, Peter Riedt wrote: > On Monday, August 15, 2016 at 2:04:35 PM UTC+8, Sylvia Else wrote: > >> >> A full expansion of the equations of relativity applied to this >> situation will include a large number of terms. Given the values of the >> Sun's mass, the object's mass (considered to be small compared with that >> of the Sun) and the distance involved, almost all of those terms will be >> vanishingly small, and can be ignored. What's left corresponds to >> Kepler's third law. > > It means GR is not necessary. It is superfluous. In this situation. Go near a black hole, and you'll find that the other terms are not vanishingly small. > >>> Another request: Can you tell me what is t for a semi major axis of >>> 50,000,000km? >>> >> >> I can't be bothered. Plug the values into Kepler's third law formula if >> you want to know. >> >> Sylvia. > > The time for the orbit of an object at a distance from the sun of 50,000,000km > is 70.58 days and the orbit may have an eccentricity range of e = 0 to .9999. GR could never predict/calculate this. Confirmed by you and the silence of Bod. > If that's what Kepler's law says, then GR says pretty much the same thing (the difference lying in those vanishingly small terms). So it's manifestly incorrect to say that GR cannot predict this. Sylvia.
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GR cannot Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-11 19:31 -0700
Re: GR cannot Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 07:17 -0500
Re: GR cannot Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-12 17:26 -0700
Re: GR cannot Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-13 12:01 +1000
Re: GR cannot Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-12 20:51 -0700
Re: GR cannot Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 11:45 -0500
Re: GR cannot Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-13 17:32 -0700
Re: GR cannot Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 09:33 -0500
Re: GR cannot Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-14 14:34 +1000
Re: GR cannot Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-14 01:28 -0700
Re: GR cannot Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-15 12:41 +1000
Re: GR cannot Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-14 20:41 -0700
Re: GR cannot Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-15 14:55 +1000
Re: GR cannot Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-14 22:15 -0700
Re: GR cannot Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-15 16:04 +1000
Re: GR cannot Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-14 23:50 -0700
Re: GR cannot Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-15 17:03 +1000
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Re: GR cannot Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-15 15:15 +0200
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Re: GR cannot Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 12:05 -0500
Re: GR cannot Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-15 10:11 -0700
Re: GR cannot Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 13:27 -0500
Re: GR cannot Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-16 20:16 -0700
Re: GR cannot Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-16 23:10 -0500
Re: GR cannot Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-16 22:48 -0700
Re: GR cannot Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 13:52 -0500
Re: GR cannot Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 12:09 -0500
Re: GR cannot Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-15 10:16 -0700
Re: GR cannot Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 13:27 -0500
Re: GR cannot Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 11:42 -0500
Re: GR cannot Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-13 17:28 -0700
Re: GR cannot Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 09:31 -0500
Re: GR cannot Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-15 09:33 -0700
Re: GR cannot Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 11:52 -0500
Re: GR cannot Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 00:10 +0200
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