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Re: Particle Physics

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Particle Physics
Date 2016-04-23 20:36 +0200
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Am 23.04.2016 15:33, schrieb Odd Bodkin:

>> If we take the meter as unit for measurements of the type length, then a
>> certain length is a product of a number and the standard unit '1 m'.
>>
>> It can be a small number or a large number. So we could measure tiny
>> distances and extremely large ones with the same unit.
>>
>> For convenience we could measure atoms in very small units and stars
>> with light-years. But that's is not necessary. Meters are possible for
>> all possible distances.
>>
>> To leave out the meter in a measurement would make things difficult,
>> since nobody could interpret a certain number (say 453), if we do not
>> declare, which kind of units we would like to count with it.
>
> Fine, so keep the meter. Use it for time, too. One meter of time is a
> little over 3 ns. Now you have ONE unit that you can use to measure both
> time and space. There's absolutely no reason to retain two.
>

Only: 'time' and 'space' do not denote the same subject.

If GR is correct and space and time are in fact linked together, then, 
nevertheless, you must not use the same unit for different entities.

'Space' is somehow associated with 'distance'.

'Time' is more connected with 'events' and about their order.

If we order events in space in depth of space, then a beam of light 
passes by events in space. Those events are perceived as simultaneous, 
even if they aren't.

If we use the term 'time' for the imaginary 'movement' between events at 
the same location and use the term 'distance' for real movement in real 
space, we have a consistent use of these terms. But they do not denote 
the same entity, since 'imaginary movement' and 'real movement' are not 
identical.

So I wonder, why you would like to use the same unit for things, that 
would deserve their own units.


TH

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    Re: Particle Physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-04-22 06:42 +0200
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                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-24 13:55 -0500
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                Re: Particle Physics Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2016-04-23 15:53 +0200
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                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-24 14:02 -0500
                Re: Particle Physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-04-25 06:55 +0200
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 06:07 -0500
                Re: Particle Physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-04-26 22:24 +0200

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